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X-Men 97 continues to prove that the X-Men are the best thing in Marvel with the new episode Remember It.
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As a dad of a stillborn, Scott’s rant was unhinged but totally necessary. Scott is being handled better here than ever in the comics and I felt seen in that moment. You feel the world’s against you and your future.
Powerful stuff bro, thanks for speaking your perspective.
I'm so sorry.
I am sorry for your loss.
I have not had a stillborn, but my wife and I have suffered far too many miscarriages. I instantly recognized Scott’s anger. The well-intentioned and probing questions on a matter that is far too painful to share or Discuss. I know that anger. I can only imagine how much worse it would be in his case or yours.
Condolences 💐
I hear you man. My wife and I are dealing with fertility issues, we've done ivf unsuccessfully several times and my first thought when the reporter asked Scott that question with that hurt still fresh was....oh nooo. Lol totally necessary response. Trying too hold all that in as the leader of the xmen when all this other stuff in your personal life is going on... the dam can only hold so long. He let it out and I felt that.
“Back-flips, civil rights and soap opera” The perfect description for this show.😂
Wolverine being a bro with the Jean thing was great.
I honestly hope that moment of self-awareness let’s him pivot and do something other than pine too.
I have REALLY enjoyed having Logan step back out of the spotlight so far but I do want to see him do some other things outside he usual love triangle business. With the seeming rise of Rightclops and a possible influx of young mutant refugees, maybe we’ll see a spin on Schism?
@jasongarrett768 that's what I'm thinking. With cyclops, magento and storm out of commission and cyc potentially going crazy, logan will have to step up
@@jasongarrett768At this point nothing’s off the table. Anything’s possible.
@@jasongarrett768 the mid-season teaser just dropped & Wolverine & Nightcrawler look like they'll be teaming up (and from the looks of it, it's going to be pretty intense)
@@rl-cx6kfcan’t wait to have more nightcrawler in this show man, i love his abilities so much and he’s such a fun character to see in action
My biggest surprise was seeing modern media portraying a man being able to handle a "breakup" maturely but setting up his boundaries and acting with respect
It's rare nowadays that media doesn't lean on the drama and shame of masculine outbursts
De Mayo really knew what he was doing when running the show and it shows
I was floored with how much class he displayed in that scene. Gambit is the MVP of this episode.
They better have a DAMN good reason for firing DeMayo
@@bellslimes It's just rumors, but from what I've heard, it's kind of a contract breach that got him let go. DeMayo has an Onlyfans, but he posted exclusively non-hardcore and softcore stuff on it, mostly gym selfies for his audience. The day he was announced to be fired, some people pointed out that DeMayo posted something on his Onlyfans the day before, and it was more hardcore and explicitly sexual than his usual stuffs. I'm guessing one of Disney's contractual mandates is that any of their public figures should not do any explicit work while under Disney, and well DeMayo kinda breached that part of the contract, it seems.
I was happily satisfied that he wasn't just pushed around and finally got something huge to do. I think they addressed the drama as tastefully as they could compared to the comics.
@@runbaa9285ugh, I hope they find a way to get him back, or this will be like Gunn and the delay of Guardians 3, and him finally going to DC. DeMayo is an exceptional talent.
So far, X-Men 97 is peak Marvel. I grew up reading a ton of the classic X-Men comics my dad had from his childhood, and this is show is capturing the feeling of those comics PERFECTLY.
Yeah it’s damn good
Honestly outside of spider verse and avengers emh, it’s definitely one of my favorite pieces of content to come out of marvel!
@InevitableOption-ic2vxA Spectacular Spider-Man in revival is what I’m really hoping for even if TAS is more likely since it connects to this version of the X-Men.
People keep saying superhero shows and movies are dead no, bad superhero movies and shows are dead. X-Men 97 takes license with some of the events for brevity but maintains the essence. In doing so we get some of the best work to come out of Marvel in over a decade. If they made movies like this there would be no complaints.
Same experience with my dad and his comics.
Didn't love watching my childhood hero die, but god damn, there's no better way for him to go out. Gambit got absolutely shafted emotionally in this episode, but holy hell he really went out like a hero.
Yeah, they got him to display such a degree of heorism, from displaying great emotional maturity regarding his relationship with rogue, to going out as the most heoric x men of all. They nailed the heroic death part.
"Absolutely shafted"
Ouch. 😅
Nah fuck that he better not be dead forever don't do this to me.
@@nTryloHe won’t be. Don’t wanna ruin it for you but just stay patient…
@@pitchking5496ruin it bro, I'm begging
I think we’re gonna see Cyclops in the black uniform with the red x this season. After that outburst and the death of all those mutants, he’s gonna be more militant than ever
That will be dark lol
Agreed, think you might see Schism when Cyc finds out about Jean and wolverine
I knew at the first episode where Cyclops was portrayed as this awesome leader that is would not last. The Cyclops I know is this angry and bitter guy who needs therapy lol.
@@Sayajin3321 He's angry and bitter with clear mental problems, but he can force through them to be a leader, and a great one at that.
@@projekttaku1 Cyclops the best boy scott archetype. Teetering between Homelander and humanitarian
As soon as I finished - I was like how many minutes until the next Nando “didn’t expect to make another video” video
Comics fans: we're headed to genosha, I'm scared
Is that the watcher? *Starts sweating profusely*
Cable?!? *Thousand yard stare* Not like this
Held my tongue the entire time watching it with the gf
I started the episode like "Wow, this Genosha depiction is so good, i hope we get some time before it gets attacked"
This was exactly my emotional process
I felt the whole range of the "mr incredible becoming uncanny" meme while watching the episode.
I loved and hated that feeling... the building anxiety of red flags... I had my subwoofers up to the point I FELT those blasts and heartbeats. That episode did things to me.
To be fair, Scott "psychically cheating" on Jean with Madelyne paints him in a much more positive light than him doing the same thing in the comics with Emma.
Though I like how Emma is still there in this episode knowingly smirking after it happens. (as a possible Easter egg to the original comics scene)
this also makes a lot more sense than scott just abandoning madelyne the way he does in the comics.
@@The_Mad_Titan_007 Yeah, the benefit of writing based on the story, while having the benefit of hindsight, is that you get to see the whole picture, and rethink about what did and didn t work.
Agreed though context is important. Scott in that era had just recently been possessed by Apocalypse and went through some crazy stuff (even for the X-men) that he specifically couldn’t go to Jean about. And Jean wasn’t exactly rejecting skeevy Wolverine either. Emma being Emma, or rather not Gen X but Hellfire White Queen swooped in to play her games. Unfortunately for her she actually really fell for Scott.
@@rubaiyat300 so normal X-Men Soap Opera shenanigans.
@@lvo9197 which when done right gives us better adaptations than the original story itself. I like that tbh.
Rogue's "I can't feel you." instantly reminded me of Wanda's "I can't feel you." to Vision in WandaVision...
Super duper intentional
@@somethingwarm yup! The lines gave me chills and tears.
The delivery for that line is...my heart will not recover from it.
Same here. Took me instantly to WandaVision, which is probably my favourite MCU thing ever.
Way better for line for Rogue with Gambit it fits way better with her powers than Wanda and vision.
My takeaway from it is that they basically combined all of the mutant genocides into one. It has elements of the mutant massacre, E is for extinction, and fall of the house of X. I'm very interested to see where they go, and with his little rant in the middle of the episode, I wouldn't be surprised if we see radicalized Cyclops.
I feel like radical cyclops is a great way for the show to go
...sounds about right! isn't it tragic that mutants have that many genocides to even combine at all.. and you didn't even mention Days of Futures Past..!
Yeah, Scott was already struggling with his leadership and his place in the world. Now that the genocide in Genosha has followed hot on the heels of his spiraling personal life and his meltdown in front of the TV cameras, he could definitely reach the point of "f**k it. No more mutant deaths, and I don't care what I have to look like in order to make that happen."
And where are "earths mightiest heroes" for each one? Lol@@rasun316
"There is no love without sin. Love is best nurtured in what we forgive. "
-- Nightcrawler
Beautiful line.
That ending was insane! One of the best of episodes of Marvel Television ever released! X-Men 97 might be my favorite thing Marvel Studios has ever done. Period.
Measured not nurtured I believe
I loved this take of Nightcrawler
Positive: Pixie, Glob and Nightcrawler were introduced and survived
Negative: I need to see a therapist after the episode
Night crawler felt a bit off for me, too MCU and less mature and not as Christian
@@seriousnesstv7902but Nightcrawler always had a playful nature too, so that tracks
@@seriousnesstv7902he was seeing old friends after a while of not seeing them, i’d say he had an emotional reaction and was just happy to see them and catch up, hence the more playful and sly nature. but we know that when push comes to shove, he is fucking busted and a damn force to be reckoned with when his head is fully in the game
@@seriousnesstv7902 Meanwhile I'm seeing Nightcrawler from the perspective of his portrayal in the comics, where his Christianity is a part of his personality, but not the only thing he ever talks about. He's a lot more playful in the comics, and I like that living in Genosha has brought that part of his personality out. In Germany he was dour and serious because he was being actively hunted and mobbed on a regular basis. Now he's had time away from that in a place that welcomes and embraces his differences.
This portrayal in the newest episode shows more of the fun side of Nightcrawler in an environment that would have a positive influence on him. Heck, he even makes reference to his faith when he drops the fascinating line about "there is no love without sin, because love is measured by what we forgive."
@@seriousnesstv7902 This was 100% comic-accurate Nightcrawler, who is very different from the Fox movies' take (it's fine those had a different version though)
I love how X-Men '97 set this up perfectly by having Madelyn (Jean at the time) have her nightmare vision of this event in Episode 1 BEFORE their fight with Master Mold in that episode. That lulled everyone into a sense of security. "Oh, Jean saw Master Mold coming back but Storm zapped them all. Disaster averted!"
Eh... Maddy wasn't having a vision of *that* Master Mold, mon ami.
That Master Mold was also destroyed by a Gambit's power
They packed all these around half an hour and not once does the pace feel rushed or dragged, just show how efficient and effective the storytelling is here, the reason the last chaotic 10 minutes worked cuz there’s a build up of every characters’ internal struggles from the beginning that complement the emotional complexity in a perfect way
I would argue the pacing for the first few episodes was a bit rushed but this episode had perfect pacing.
@@kbg12ila Fully agree.
@@kbg12ilaagreed
Most of the episode had zero fighting. Just the different characters' emotional struggles and messy baggage. And in keeping with the best X-Men stories, I completely didn't notice the lack of an action scene until all hell broke loose.
This is where I'm not sure - See, I'm not that familiar with the X-Men and the comics and while I was able to "keep up" with what was happening, it did feel like nothing has time to breathe, like having Madelyn Prior come back as a long time acquaintance even though they introduced her just a couple episodes prior or all the Morlocks and Mr Sinister stuff that I learned how it happened in the comics and here, if you don't already know them, you don't even realize they are a community of their own, marginalized by both humans and mutants alike.
R.I.P Gambit 😔
An already sad moment with Rogue holding a dead Remy, but it hits even more now knowing that Lenore Zann (Rogue's VA) was dealing with the loss of her niece around the time of recording the episode
This episode was phenomenal! THE MCU NEEDS TO HIRE THESE WRITERS FOR THE LIVE-ACTION X-MEN IN THE MCU!
Everything from the animation, storytelling, music and even the soap opera drama and twists were outstanding. Rogue and Gambit's relationship was so interesting and poetic with excellent writing, almost Shakespearean. That ending alone had my mouth on the floor. Gambit went out like an *ABSOLUTE G!!!* "Sugar... I can't feel you," nah I can't😭
I loved seeing my boy Nightcrawler, too; he's always been my favourite X-men.
Magneto had some of the hardest lines Ive ever heard in this episode alone.
Just heard the writer for this episode has been fired a while ago. Supposedly he was difficult to work with.
@Theywantthedro
No they found out he had an Onlyfans account
"THE MCU NEEDS TO HIRE THESE WRITERS FOR THE LIVE-ACTION X-MEN IN THE MCU"
Yeah... About the employment status of said writer at Marvel... I've got bad news.
@@loslakers530sounds like a crazy oversimplification if that’s the subject of the reasoning for his being fired. They almost certainly asked him to tidy up his online image and he likely refused despite many opportunities.
@fewntug3760 there's zero evidence of that being the issue. There were stories of him being difficult from fellow writers on The Witcher. Not, like, difficult with executives, but with peers.
He also did OF for years and it didn't seem to be a problem all that time.
So we don't know the exact reason but it is most likely to do with unprofessional stuff
Me: Oh Pixie is here, I like her, this will be a fun episode
Wild Sentinels: Hold my robotic tentacle lol
At least she survives
Show is so fucking peak. Marvel is actually making good stuff again. It's astounding. Uncanny even.
true...im just hoping they dont go fking it up and dedicate an episode to something woketarded like Morph discovering he is "nonbinary"
@@MalcomMalediction you speak like a twelve year old
@@MalcomMalediction Oh my God. Get over the woke shit. People keep whining about that shit so much they'll become no better than SJWs. Just whining all the time about the scary woke bogeyman.
@@MalcomMalediction praying for morph/wolverine BL. ☺️☺️
Don't tell Malcom about Destiny and comics Mystique...
i could’ve never expected this show to be this great. beautiful art and beautiful story telling. i’m really excited now for the mcu version of the x-men
DeMayo said on Twitter how this episode was meant to reflect the feeling and cultural impact 9/11 had on our younger generations. That we weren't as safe as we previously believed. I think that's what makes the tonal shift in this story so effective. You really start to think that everything is going to be OK for Mutants, and then BAM, utter tragedy. There is SO much this one single story did right to justify why this entire revival needed to happen in the first place. I am completely blown away by the quality and the care we're seeing for what is likely the best X-Men adaptation ever made.
That line from night crawler: There is no love without sin. For love is measured against how many sins you can forgive. Or something like that. Right up there with Vision's line about love and grief
This is episode was a deep cut apparently at one point Grant Morrison was going to kill off Gambit just like he was killed here on the show, but Chris Claremont was doing Extreme X-Men at the time and got wind and requested to use Gambit in his book to save the character and thus Gambit wasn't in Morrison's book to be killed.
Gambit was Claremont’s creation. It makes sense.
After this episode I have some theories about the future of the series:
1) In the final episodes, it will be revealed that the big villain of this season, the one who send the Sentinel to destroy Genosha, is Bastion (who appear in one of Forge''s photos).
2) There will be a change in the team's line up, with the X-men recruting new members (my pitch: Nightcrawler, Forge, Colossus and Banshee's daughter)
3) After this tragedy and whatever will happen in the end of the season, Cyclops will become more extremist and willing to make questionable actions to protect mutantkind.
4) To make the X-men more pro-active, Scott will secretly create the X-Force, to act as black-ops group and do the shady stuff the X-men cannot do. Eventually the group's existence could be find out and this could lead to an adaptation of "schism", with the X-men now splitting up in two groups, one joins Scott and the X-force while the other will be lead by Storm (instead of Wolverine) and try to still live up to Xavier teachings.
2/4 isn't bad. Nice job.
I really hope they're setting up a team split like they did in the comics where Logan can be "the better man" like Charles, and Scott can be "the man that does what's necessary" like Magneto.
I think the major difference between this and the old series is that this is being treated more like an anime. They fight scenes are SO GOOD and the angles and camera shots are so dynamic and have momentum. It's beautiful.
It has a more cinematic feel to it.
Anime isn't really the best comparison here
@@fightingmedialounge519 Hard disagree. When Cyclops did his big landing with his visor, that was an anime shot.
@@FlyoverStatePark except shots like those aren't exclusive to anime. It's also eyerolling for people to compare any adult animated product to anime.
30 years of pop culture evolution
There were some many one liners. 🔥episode
“I cant feel you”😢
"Gambit sees your bet... AND RAISES IT!!!" ... when your character is about to die doing something incredibly brave and worthy of legend... give them the perfect lead up. When I heard him say that, I knew he was going to die. He was all in. The guy everyone thought was just a pair of two's actually had a royal flush.
To me this episode started like "oh ok the typical hellfire club stuff behind the scene, magneto showing his true colors yadayada" but the backflip that made with the third act, im still trying to process it.
I personally don't think Magneto is dead. I think that Leech just disabled Magneto's powers so the Sentinel wouldn't be able to detect his mutant signature and therefore perceive him as being dead as a result of it's attack..
In the comics, the readers thought Magneto died in the attack on Genosha for several years. I think you're right in how Leech played a part in the scene.
@@BCWasbroughMagneto seeing flashbacks to the Holocaust and going berserk on the Sentinel AND saying in german “Do not be afraid” to Leech right before the impact of the blast was the most insane shit I’ve seen from anything X-Men related for years, and I’m so proud to be a Marvel fan during this show’s revival. This was definitely very needed
One, we didn't see a body which means he's alive in fiction and two the sentinel said gambit was terminated but then he smiled and gave a badass line before destroying it,
@@megaavonaco9954 Yeah. I'm familiar with TV tropes too, and watched the episode as well.
Cable showed up and Exodus was dancing this is an alternative timeline this is going to end up resulting in some temporal changes and professor X will be alive.
I really appreciate how this episode fixed A LOT of the issues that plaqued Cyclops as a character in the comics and basically character assassinated him for about 20+ years.
Instead of being a self-centered adulterer with Emma they instead made it still a mistake, but an understandable one. Both him and Jean have proper arguments, and this time Scott doesn't get used basically as a strawman who gets beaten up by everyone because the writers had it out for him. It also helped that we got a scene with Jean and Logan where she is shown to also not be perfect and getting caught by the moment. Bonuspoints for Logan not using the moment and acting like an adult here.
Personally I think they might be trying to combine both Extinction with Avengers VS. X-Men, considering Scotts behavior in the interview really made it look like he is going down Magnetos more villainous path now after this tragedy (Plus the X-men are lacking now a "Magneto" so to speak, so the position would be open, too). It would explain why there are so many rumors about the avengers being slated to show up are circulating around, there might be some truth to them.
Yeah, framing him around the interview with the reporter where we could see that he was really starting to lose his grip on what he had believed did a HUGE job of making his position understandable. They really make the characters feel complex, which I super appreciate in a show with such a massive roster.
Honestly I don't even entirely feel like Cyclops was "wrong" here. This is an incredibly complicated situation full of weird, fraught emotions. He can't be certain of who he was married to and when, for how long. He can't be certain how Jean really feels about him now she's back, and how much of her feelings are real and how much are memories of the past. What he can be certain of is that Madelyn was the mother of his child, and they shared that joy and that trauma together. Of course he's going to want to keep seeing and interacting with her. Especially since they were talking about their son, that's something they can both relate to each other about. And I think having that scene come after his blow up in the interview makes it pretty clear that he reached out to her for support in that, so it's not just "an affair," it's far more emotional than that.
And speaking of which, the interview. He definitely spoke from anger there, but at the same time a lot of what he said was true. He's kind of right to feel galled at having to go on TV and "prove" mutants should be allowed to live freely and equally with humans, after everything the X-men have done and are still doing. He put it in the harshest terms, and especially the end was particularly bitter, but I don't think the point he made was wrong.
@velemamba260 affairs can be pretty emotional.
This whole episode is a masterpiece and there is a tone of incredible scenes but when I saw Magneto use a frickin' train as a whip I literally said "woooow" aloud. The way they animated it, the feel of the weight of all the metal, the pain in Magneto expression, the rage, it was just so visually incredible. I never expected this show to hit us so heavily. I thought it's just gonna be an omage for the original series, but the writers, the animators, the director, voice actors. You can just tell how passionate everybody is about this project and the x-men franchise. It's really heartwarming to see. And heartbreaking to watch. But in a good way.
Remember when cats like Tyrone Magnus was making videos calling the show woke, based on one trailer, complaining that they're "taking away" Rogues cartoon cakes? I'm so happy that this show is so dope that there's no way the worst Marvel hater can hate and gain real traction. I hope the MCU moves forward with this vibe.
He hated in his own comment thread though. In retrospect after gushing 😂 What a clown
Tyrone Dumbgnus
wonder why people still watch that parasite
Do yourself a favour and stop any paying attention to incel ragebait CZcamsrs like that.
Can't believe Tyrone Magnus is even still around....
Even though the attack on Genosha was already in motion, I think they are going to play that Cyclops unhinged interview out of context and basically justify the attack
I got the impression the interview was live.
This episode was DEVASTATING because Gambit is my favorite...
But the beginning bit was SO COOL!!! Seeing Pixie in this animated format was PHENOMENAL!!! (i really love Pixie)
If this show can stick the landing, I think it may be the best animated super hero show ever. I know I’m probably feeling this due to recency bias, but I have never had a moment where I just stared at the screen in complete shock while the credits rolled. I can’t wait till next Wednesday
I don't know, BTAS, STAS, JL, JLU, BB, Invincible and more are all really good superhero shows.
Spectacular spiderman, and the 90s spidey are also up there tbh
@@projekttaku1 I’ve seen them all at least a few times and I couldn’t agree more. I love and grew up with each of those shows (besides invincible obviously). I still think X-Men 97 could surpass them IF it keeps up the quality we have seen so far.
@@dre3824 Agreed both are bangers. Spectacular Spider-Man is low key my favorite depiction of Peter Parker and Spider-Man and I still think X-Men 97 could be better if it keeps this up.
@@joshtimmins6629 I guess but I don't know if it could match up to JLU's Cadmus arc, which had the backing of the entire DCAU and all those series behind it, or BTAS's atmosphere and character exploration, STAS's simple yet iconic reworking of the most famous superhero ever, or BB masterful use of a studio mandated concept (teenage Batman). By comparison, X-Men 97' is just fun.
Cable said “He’s coming!” so I’m thinking it’s Bastion/Nimrod
I also laughed my ass off at Exodus dancing. It's just so weird and funny that this super serious villainous mutant is shaking it in the town square
100% calling it now Leech saved Magneto by removing his powers
You're not the only one. It's a plausible theory.
How would removing his power to help that situation
@@chefdh the sentinel can no longer detect him
@@Supermonistic yeah but he was getting blasted by the trisentinel, if leech removed his powers Magneto would be disintegrated or at least killed.
@@Blimbus-Blombo number 1 rule. No body = not dead
Good confirmation that Val Cooper isn't Mystique in this ep--- the sentinels don't target her.
They might have, if Magneto didn't get in the way.
And Beau Demayo said that this was just an appetizer the main course is coming in the last three eps.
The bit about this meaning to evoke what 9/11 and other catastrophes felt like to 90’s kids made this cut even deeper. Honestly hyped for what’s coming.
Im guessing we'll see Cable more often in the next episodes, because he tried to prevent the Godzilla Sentinel situation from happening and was abruptly thrown back to the other time period.
They need to bring him back. ASAP.
Seeing the Watcher looking down like he did during the end of the Onslaught arc when all the nonmutant heroes were about to die, I knew it was about to pop off but I still wasn’t ready! Great ep in what has been a great run. Seeing the Genosha Massacre with a TriSentinel MasterMold instead of Cassandra Nova was a wild adaptation. TriSentinel being a goofy Loki machination that ended up being a foil for Spider-man of all people (and needing a mega team up of that particular era of early 90’s characters to deal with) was so WILD!
Its actually not trisentinel. Its the wild sentinel that attacked Genosha which had 3 heads as well. At one point it even used the same eye beam attack vs Gambit.
the way they slickly transition the choir background music during the dance / bomb scene from something happy and energetic to so ominous and unsettling the second that cable shows up all the way to this last few minutes of the fight sequence where there is absolutely no score just straight sound design and dialogue literally gave me chills 😭😭 they directed the FUCK out of this show and after a few rough years as a mcu fan i can gladly say that marvel is more than back on track with this show every aspect of it has been incredible this far and to think that we have 3 more episodes as well as 2 more officially announced seasons im PLEASANTLY suprised and excited as a fan
side note we are actually getting FIVE MORE episodes wtff this is about to get insane😂
My god this show is better than ANYTHING I mean ANYTHING marvel has done since winter soldier,civil war and infinity wars… needless to say I’m utterly shocked and impressed. Kudos
This is the best thing marvel has done period this is PEAK
Slow down there, GOTG3 and NWH beat it out easily.
Slow down there, GOTG3 and NWH beat it out easily.
Loki Season 2 and GOTG3 were terrific but I do think this is much better than almost everything else they've done in years.
Turns out Sebastian Shaw was actually voiced by Travis Willingham from Critical Role and Shaw was miscredited in the credits. Pretty bad thing to mess up! 😅
_"Save as many as you can. We shall not live our days wondering if we could've saved more."_
*~Erik Magnus Lehnsherr "Magneto"*
Literally sat and cried at the end of this episode . Wow just wow
It hit HARD.
I am assuming that Cable’s warning, and the brief clip of him fighting Apocalypse in the intro sequence, means that four of the characters we saw die will be revived as Horsemen. Maybe give Callisto her super weird tentacle-arms secondary mutation for that. And Evil Gambit would be the exact right level of X-Men drama for Rogue, especially considering her choice this episode.
I woke up and had to decide between Bad Batch and X-Men to watch while I took morning medications. I figured, BB is gonna be pretty emotionally, I should go with X-Men since I'm not invested in the Rogue/Gambit/Magneto triangle at all. I Made A Terrible Mistake. I still have no particular love for 2 out of 3 of those characters, but damned if I don't have a lot more respect for them now. It takes skill to write rug pulls like those and act out the emotional beats in the perfect timing to grab your heart. They did it.
It's such a fucking treat to have back to back episodes for both of these series for at least a couple more weeks in a row.
Also, ironically this week's episode of Bad Batch wasn't at all heavy, emotionally. Just a action-heavy prison break episode while Omega learns more about the operation on Tantis.
Really glad I watched it before I watched the X-Men. :/
i got lucky, i watched bad batch first, then i watched x-men and was so devastated i dont think i could have watched bad batch after
I think what most viewers should do in cases like this is to make your own watching block like what Fox Kids/Disney Afternoon/Kids WB used to do when they were around: Make it an event for yourselves where right after you finish one show go straight to the next one. That way it’s less of a question of, “Which do I watch?” And more of “Which do I watch first?”
X-Men 97 is peak Marvel. I can't wait to see where they go with this series. At the end with Rogue holding Gambit, it reminded me of Louis holding Superman in the Death of Superman comics.
Next time im on a date or job interview and they ask me what are some of my strengths, theyll be listed as such:
1. back flips
2. civil rights
3. and soap opera
Guaranteed ill get the job. For both.
this episode was peak fiction. incredible, genuinely what i’ve always wanted from an xmen adaptation i can’t even believe this show is real in 2024
I want the consequences of this episode to stick until at least the end of the season. Then maybe there's a tiny glimmer of hope for a time travel or resurrection redo.
They.... Might wanna get that showrunner back ... Cuz he's killing it and it's not even close
Cable’s first appearance in the show was on Genosha during the Slave Arc so it’s quite possible he travelled from there to this episode
At Ep 5, I'm already so excited for the ability to revisit this season top to bottom in one weekend. Gotta start itbon a Saturday morning at 11:00am
"You light up everything you touch, but you can't touch me" is just the most perfect X-Men dramatic dialogue.
I had to just sit there for a few minutes after the episode. I was floored.
Can’t tell you how much I enjoy your videos.. and how much I’ve been enjoying your X-men 97 videos! Please keep doing them!
This felt like Hardhome.
The ending just comes from nowhere and happened.
After considering this thoroughly, I can see that. It started out one way and then becomes gut wrenching and epic at the end. And, since Hardhome is my all time favorite episode, I agree.
@@number1chiefROKKA Hardhome was the episode that I would say is the best of that series.
And if it ended before the dogs started barking, it would have still been the best episode in season 5.
But man, when those dogs start losing it, does shit pick up fast.
I was so convinced that Travis Willingham voiced Shaw I was legitimately shocked when I found out it wasn't him
Holy shit I would have never guessed. I heard the voice and just knew it was him so I never bothered to look.
He confirmed it was him on Twitter
@@wolfhowl_ Can you link this. I don't see it on his page
Loved this episode. So far the show is exceeding my expectations. I was not expecting episode 5 to go this hard, but I am here for it. Thanks for putting this video out so quickly, I needed to have this conversation.
The great Jay Edidin (who has been co-hosting the Jay And Miles Xplain The X-Men podcast for the last decade) once stated that the best X-men stories are about the X-Men knowing that they are doomed, they are absolutely f**ked, but continuing to fight anyway.
In this episode of X-Men 97, Gambit finally became a truly great X-Man.
The X-men movies sometimes did these things, where they would mention a very big event that happened in the timeline, but never actually show it (like Xavier > KILLING < the entirety of the X-Men team in 'Logan'). But this episode actually portrayed this VISCERAL and world-changing event, we actually get to witness something that would probably just be namedroped as 'The Genosha Incident' in those movies. Random and weird take, but whatever 😅.
I did enjoy this episode but they will probably revert it all using time travelling anyway, wish they had the balls to make this a permanent event in the series.
The show started strong was on the verge if getting boring then Gambit decided to raise the stakes and take over the whole damn card game!!!!!!
Classic line from the original show "The name is Gambit... REMEMBER IT!!!" would always give me chills back then and now it came full circle. 😭😭
90s kid here as well as an X-Men supremacist (as far as comic heroes go), and came in ready to be disappointed for '97, but I have been blown away. This episode and also ep2 in particular are incredible. Some pretty cool deep cuts with Gambit saving the Morlocks and kind of a Quiet Council in Genosha. Kind of a shame to put Exodus in the episode and have him dance but not fight - I wonder if they drew some up, but had to cut it for time
It’s so nice to see all fans back together on this, like it’s been a while across the board we all agreed that something was amazing, feels great!
7:38 I’m sorry Nando but as an actual Scottish person Moria’s accent is HORRIFIC
It's kinda pirate-y ain't it?
@@my2randomcentsit’s like they put a Glaswegian woman on a pirate ship yeah
I’m sorry lbstudio13, but as and actual non-scottish person, the actual scottish accent is (normally) HORRIFIC.
The Irish one was not much better 💔💔💔
I couldn’t tell the Scottish one was meant to be Scottish for ages 😂
This show is peak MARVEL as a whole! Comics or MCU whatever. Doing the Xmen justice!!
When I saw the watcher in the sky I got really worried
I can’t help but genuinely be both stunned and thankful. The show probed me wrong and remember it is xmen 97s finest hour thus far. The genoshan genocide and every second of the writing in the entire episode was stellar, the visuals superb, and the best action sequence in the show to date. The status quo shift is excellent, and everything set up from here makes me so excited for the turning point of the show.
Maybe Scott finally snapping on humanity will lead to him leading in the leader the way Magneto not Charles would want.
I’m positive Cyclops is going to become a villain after these events. He’s lost his son, the mother of his son, who is the only person that understands what he’s going through. With the absence of Charles’s and with Magneto’s death, i think Cyclops may feel there is no peace with the humans.
also it will tie to Cyclops's first words in this series when Sunspot asked him "good guy or bad guy?" "definitely a good guy"
I think the big sentinel design is the one used in Whedon's Astonishing X-Men
Having read the New X-Men comics, seeing that unholy Sentinel animated was unreal. I watched the episode twice because I was in shock.
i think we're definitely going to see gambit come back via time travel unraveling or something.
The avengers seem to survive and live but the X-men fight to the death!
I was crying before I realized it after Eric said they would not wonder how many could have been saved. He proved he was the Holocaust survivor Charles knew him to be deep down.
I doubt Gambit and Magneto will stay dead, but seeing the drama, character work, and sudden brutality shows how well this show is written and keeping you coming back every week. Everyone is great to see in epic fights and interpersonal drama.
I think to your point about multiple massacres, they're going to take advantage of 30+ years of content and merge a few together. This one was Age of Extinction, but it was also bits of Fall of the Mutants going through this season. They know what the knocks against the extended format of the comic are, they can avoid them.
The Emma Frost beats work so well. They get to have her comment on Jean and Maddy doing her Scott affair while at the same time shoving several years of heroism leading up to the X-Men into her limited screentime set up.
Earlier they even have Gambit joke about which one of his mutant powers he's not allowed to use during basketball (a callback to a comic scene where he uses superhuman agility to sink a basketball over his shoulder into a broken hoop). So we'll probably see secondary mutations incoming.
And also tons of Phoenix stuff leading into it.
I was waiting for this!
What I'd like to see is Mutant Messiah, the introduction of Kid Omega, Cyclops possibly turning evil, maybe even a comic accurate House of M with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch showing up, an X-Men '97 like show based around The Avengers with more comic book accurate stories like this starting with Pietro and Wanda joining the team.
I felt like I have watched several movies worth of content in just this one episode and yet it somehow is just one episode and the pacing never felt off. Astonishing.
watched it last night and i KNEW youd make a video i felt it in my bones
I’m so happy to see the reception to the show. We need to support this show. This is the best thing I’ve seen in a long time from marvel.
I like how Magneto basically said "hold my beer" when he saw Rogue floating down to the dance floor.
Seeing these classic arcs and stories be adapted for an animated medium just makes so much more sense it’s almost impossible to match animations unlimited possibilities with live action. Give us animated movies marvel!
This episode Honestly makes me hope the people or at the very least the writers (that didn't get fired or leave the show) of the show work on the MCU X-Men films or at the very least give advice on what to do with the MCU X-Men.
I'm not sure. No matter what you think of beau de mayo the man sounds like a Real fan who wants to stay true to the original material. It was the same on the witcher and one of the reasons he left. So if he's out of marvel i'm not sure the quality of the writing will stay the same
Every time any of the x boys does something cool im like YES!!! THATS HIM!!! THATS MY BOYFRIEND. its a credit to the treatment of the ensemble in this episode especially i had that moment for like 5 different characters in one 30 minute chunk
X-Men '97 is really everything Marvel needed. It's insane how much character development and personality this show got in 6 episodes so far, more than past +5 years of Phase 4 MCU. They simultaneously pay respect to the original show, keeping the same energy and drama, while simultaneously making it feel fresh. I really hope this is a huge step towards Marvel getting back on their feet, and hopefully they'll greenlit sequels to other older shows; I would LOVE a sequel to the 90's Spider-Man: The Animated Series.
Magneto and Rogue's relationship draws heavily from the Age of Apocalypse comic run
😤DAM good vid! You just earned a sub big dawg 💪
I think that with all the characters that died they either go with Time Travel or Season 2 just jumps to Krakoa and the resurrection protocols
Thank you for making this video because after I finished watching the episode I needed to be in community with someone. It was so traumatic to watch the E for Extinction storyline in film. I was honestly gutted.
It really was hard to watch. They did maybe too good a job portraying it. I couldn't move when the episode ended. Just sat there staring and trying to process.
Nando, keep making these X-Men 97 vids!
Just finished it and needed somewhere to decompress. Good lord I didn't know they were going to go this hard this fast
Cyclops isn't wrong for being angry at people who gave them Sentinals, Mr. Sinister. He is not wrong for being angry that mutant will not be left alone regardless of what they do. He is not unhinged. He is angry and right to be so.
“A promise was made…Save as many as you can. We shall not live our days wondering if we could’ve saved more!” is one of Magneto’s most powerful lines
This show has also given us the most efficient way to solve a love triangle: kill two of them. Gambit and Rogue definitely weren’t two of my favorite X-men and I definitely wasn’t sobbing uncontrollably by the end.
Technically the most efficient way would be to just kill one since it solves the issue of the triangle with less work then having to kill 2. But yeah I'm totally with you on definitely not being absolutely devastated by what happened to the 2 X-Men who most certainly were not my favorites my whole life.
Was waiting to hear your thoughts on this episode
Ur right it was that good rewatching the rest of these lmao