Lol that's like one of my favorite aspects of any Zeppelin record. I discovered it before the internet and eventually thought to Google it to see if it was a thing. It's a thing.
It's not just music. I work in a library. We are judged on how many people walk through our doors, how many hours are used on the computers, how many books are issued each week, how many children finish our summer reading challenge. What we should be focusing on is the enjoyment people are getting from books and how it impacts on their lives, how a child progresses or even how an adult moves forward with their reading. That is more important but can't be measured with the numbers we have to record and the way we are assessed. It is messed up. Obviously the music business is about making money so has to be run like a business but this clearly misses a huge amount of information that is also essential. The music I love doesn't even get featured on mainstream radio. Who is to say that people wouldn't enjoy the music if they were able to hear it without having to hunt for it. All decided by those people more interested in money than the music itself.
Nikki, I've been reading all of my life and I ain't no spring chicken. I switched to a Kindle many years and I always find some time to read each and every day. I feel that a life's worth of reading has improved both my vocabulary and intelligence. Thank you for all that you do.
I was a board member of a friends of the library - a woman gave $$$ to make a great mystery section - while there never could use donation - library only interested in new, new, new - out with the old & in with the new - the library had no concept of good literature
The industry conditions people to like music that is easy to replicate. If they allowed unique, original bands a platform, they wouldn't have complete control.
I read a great (i.e., awful but important) quote in Rolling Stone magazine 20 years ago (a magazine I normally dislike, my roommate had it). An RCA executive was greeting his new talent scouts. He started by asking what flavor of ice cream everyone like. One said chocolate, anther strawberry, another rocky road, etc. He then said, "So, think of all these flavors when you are scouting. And then go and find vanilla. Because vanilla is the #1 selling kind of ice cream". Sums up a lot of their thinking.
The Black Keys are one of my favorite bands and they really do create really unique and special songs and records together while maintaining a fun and natural sound. Magic Potion is full of amazing energy and guitar riffs and it’s so raw and pure, but even their most recent stuff is still so honest and creative. They really stay true to themselves as artists and musicians and that’s why I love them so much. Dan is also an incredible producer on top of being one of the best songwriters around today. The Black Keys inspired me to form a band 6 years ago with my brother and we’re still going at it while always focusing on the art of songwriting and musicianship and making original music we love. Creating music you love for the sake of creating something that is unique to you and the people you collaborate with and sharing it with the world. That’s what the Black Keys do and it’s what inspires us as musical creators.
@Skullzz McCarthy Wow thank you so much! The Black Keys are so incredible aren’t they!👏👌We appreciate the kind words and thank you so much for the sub! We hope you enjoy our music too🎸
Totally dig The Black Keys. Look forward to your next vlog about them. I am impatiently awaiting to get my hands on their new record. Gonna spin their vinyl hard!
As an independent music producer I know it's so hard to get yourself out there. The "competition" isn't other producers/writers, it's the revenue they have and direction the major corporations decide to push. Having bought most back catalogues going back decades they are quite happy to keep the masses listening to older music, unless they can strangle the lifeblood and creativity of anything fresh that comes along and that looks like it might gain a following
I really enjoy the 'Down to Earth' approach you take, and the illusion shattering you propose. I was a musician for more than 40 years, and always advocated 'autonomy'. It took me to some places (big venues and big festivals), but people never understood why I wasn't interested in business, but rather interested in Music! Thank you for your efforts!
Justin your Videos never disappoint. I grew up in the skateboard with permission to land blasting and I have grownup with you. I love your approach to music and style in general . Keep up the great videos ! 🎵🎸
JH sang the theme BEAUTIFULLY today. Always loved his voice, Still great. Also, these are my favorite type of JHRA vids as it's a perspective you can't get anywhere, a music industry insider who's still active and at the top of his game artistically (Motorheart is 9/10!)
have seen them 6 times since 2004, all in Australia.. 5 times as a 2 piece.. something special when it's the two of them.. those early albums are amazing.. saw them play 3 tracks in a friends tiny record store, Dan was quiet but friendly and we had quick chat.. I was a bit star struck...very talented guys
For God's Sake join my Patreon already *sigh* www.patreon.com/jushawk (the tone of this is jokingly irate for those of you taking it very seriously, do whatever you like in this world)
God I love watching your stuff. I really appreciate you breaking down songs because I know nothing of music theory. I remember first hearing the Darkness and thinking, "YES". My parents were huge Van Halen fans and it was the closest thing that was new that wasn't something I'd heard a million times. That being said, would love to hear your take on Thumpasaurus. Crazy internet culture.
Magic Potion was the first record I heard from them. Stripped down, great song writing, Melody and guitar work. Love it. Especially the flame and elevator.
I remember Pat saying he didn't want their music to be playing in Walmart...I work at Walmart..Walmart played the HELL out of Lonely Boy on the ceiling speakers...lol... Walmart is the devil..
I loved the Black Keys as a duet. Great live act...F@#$ing loud...I thought they peaked with "Rubber Factory"..."Magc Potion" was like a Last Hurrah, before moving on...heavier and very riffy. All those early one's were great.
Thank you so much for leaving in the first 70 seconds. That was glorious. Also, you sir are a treasure. Never really listened to The Darkeness, but you better believe this channel has righted my ship. Cheers!
Prince did all of this 20 years ago - got to give him a shout out in this video. Not only did he craft his own label for this reason he also did bundling for the Musicology album
Bought the album and a shirt from their website while watching the video. I absolutely love the Black Keys and Eff the record labels that have absolutely wrecked Rock and great music in general.
I heard an auto industry president say in regards to your supercar analogy (Ironically it was the 70’s and he was referring to the expensive and pie in the sky environmentally safe version of a car) that “dreaming is essential to growth and innovation but unfortunately so is eating”
I do not like The Black Keys but when stars get into the brass tacks and break it down in terms of bean counting they always have interesting things to say because it seems all of them get screwed over at one point or another.
Magic Potion is for sure my favorite Black Keys album . . . although, oddly, I've heard the Black Keys themselves say they were unhappy with it. For my money, it's perfect. The last "core" Black Keys album IMO. Sounds like it was recorded in a garage. Nothing since has had that DIY vibe. I wish they could get back to that, but I also understand why they can't, and I don't begrudge them for that. Glad they are who they are because they are . . . great.
Congrats on nearly hitting the big 100k...I bloody love The Black Keys & yourself...Do you think they're a bit under appreciated? In the sphere of great Rock bands...
Hello hello, being a failed successful musician, (long story) no-one talks much about after the bubble bursts and you need to make a living after music. Glad I didnt end up famous and poor like some others have. You must know people who had a hit or two, dropped by label and then have to get a proper job. I still feel sick inside from the effort it took to get signed and then the failure. A life long dream coming true and your heart breaking when it fails after being 100% certain. - Its like being a 100m sprinter and running 9.5 in training only to always false start in races. - Sorry its a bit serious. Love the channel, you come across sincere and witty.
Thanks for bringing my attention to this. I saw these guys live with Arctic Monkeys in 2012, and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. But over the last decade I've been less inspired by their output--it seems like every time Dan Auerbach collaborates with someone the Black Keys start to sound more like that someone, and not for the better. This is a reminder of all of the industry garbage they have to fight just to release anything at all, and I'm now inclined to be a bit more forgiving of them for getting watered down. I hope they self-release a crusher next. I'll be here for it.
"Fuck that" is the perfect response, The industry is two polar opposites, 1, the record company owns the artist and the art, but they will push your creation to a targeted world audience because it is in their interests, and they could make a shit ton of money while giving you a small percentage and they also retain the option of interfering with your future art to fit whatever trend is most popular. Or. 2, self release and own 100% of the art, where the artist has full creative control, full ownership, and 100% of the royalties, but the downside is small sales, low visibility to target audiences, But when some dudes or dudettes in somewhere like Chile or Seattle are downloading your music with virtually no promotion behind it, it's the best feeling in the world, and then theres the .0039 of a dollar to collect too. KA CHING. It's a riddle, wrapped in an enigma that's locked in a conundrum.
Makes me think about David Gedge and The Wedding Present and the how the indie label idea of the late 70s/early 80s works in the 2020s. Not massive numbers but i guess money input and output works as a sustainable thing for the artist
So much has changed in the music world, fair play to them. I've distanced myself from the scene., I still DJ but that's my jam now. If I do another album you can come to play on it Justin, love your vids, you have so much knowledge on theory and shit. I'd love to have u on one of my records. This guy from the black keys, knows what he is is on about.
This is like a Rick Beato video waiting to happen. This guy is absolutely right. Screw Warner Bros/WMG. Makes me want to do something about their gobbling up the rights to all the great classic rock artists, and then coming down on music-related CZcams channels like the Blue-haired Lawyer when they play ten seconds of that artist's song in their video. Bands like The Grateful Dead should never belong to a conglomerate!
I really liked that Rogan interview of The Black Keys, I watched it through a couple of times, going in I very much thought I'd find that Dan was the enigmatic voice behind the band, but it became clear quite quickly that this wasn't at all true. It was obvious from Dan's respect and reverence for Patrick that the dynamic within the band differed from the external view. I feel very much that Patrick is Dan's muse in the band and that they appear very much like brothers who have whole heartedly accepted each other for who they are. Very cool dudes indeed 😎😎👍👍
@@dickmonkey-king1271 How true can that be though, even in working relationships there is some cross over. They seem to like each other, it comes across that way to me at least. I think stating that it's a business thing only is a way of keeping the media at arms length and denying them of an avenue to exploit..
I admire and like both - wtf has happened now? I'd thought JW and the BK's had buried the hatchet? Maybe they should do an album together considering they've both played live with the Stones And the Stones don't jam with and promote aresholes. Justin hang in there bro - one day at a time - don't overdo it - maybe get Jack White and the Black Keys together and produce the album It'd be a rip-snorter my friend Peace
I just discovered this channel after being a long time TD fan…. Justin, love your meanderings about all things in the music business. I definitely didn’t catch that with your on stage persona. Can’t wait to see you in April in Atlanta. I’ll buy you a Coke (coca-cola)!
I watch Rick Beato and he was saying some of the reasons modern music production is soo awful is A. producers just replace the band with studio guys and keep the singer and B. all the good producers were let go during the housing bubble crash and what we have now is the B team. So when I look at the AWFUL "top 40" today I wonder what use are major labels today outside of advertisement because it certainly isnt music production.
Some really good music just gets buried away ....and it really sucks, youtube is a godsend for coming across amazing stuff ...but even then it is buried in the algorithm. I am coming across amazing stuff all the time like Cardiacs i only found out about a few years ago with sing to god which sent me down a rabbit hole. Few months ago came across Angel- The Tower song it blew my mind....and it was a 70s song i never heard of.
I totally love this type of musical form. Black Keys, White Stripes, Immortal Lee County Killers, all kinds of bands described as punk blues, not necessarily two-person. My favorite band of all time is The Gun Club, so underappreciated which is a shame.
Streaming has destroyed the traditional industry right? The streaming platforms will be dragging millions off the old catalogues for years to come. And the artists will never have any clout unless they stop using those platforms. I think we’re in a foggy area at the moment. To me he sounds very bitter and he probably has made a lot of money up until now. Artists take themselves very seriously. They think the music is serious business too. I only listen to music on the radio now. I never did that before. Fuck it. I find music so full of opinions that at 46 I can finally let go of the idea of music as a serious art form. It’s just a bit of fun. The darkness had the right idea. Just make it fun, for fun’s sake. And get off your high horses. If you don’t like the industry that made you rich then just go off and do your own thing in complete obscurity. For your own enjoyment.
Immensely baked, sir!ha! When you said the black keys’, I thought you meant...er...b flat minor. How do you get a publishing deal? I’ve written songs but ain’t gotta clue how to .... publish it?
It's a bit ironic though I mean the black keys came out wanting to be on every format and genre, so they made sure they had tunes that could be played on every station. I mean c'mon, the black keys on your local metal channel sandwiched between Metallica and Lamb of God? Point being you had to get rich using the industry in the first place, to be able to afford to act like you're flipping them off later. I think they simply are coming down from that power trip, and now see themselves being clumped in with Nickleback and are realizing they went too far.
MHO. There are artists wanting to live to make and/or perform music on one side. There are entrepreneurs who risks money to make more money on the other side. I don't think bad about either, I've been a free lance and an employee. The problem with the music industry is that they were making money over the logistic, printing CDs and moving them around. Now that that kind of business is irrelevant the industry needs more to survive while artists are slowing returning to the era when musicians had to be active performers, teachers or composers in order to make a living. The era of making money off a recorded performance is slowly getting to an end.
Hello mate : Rick from Oregon here, I have been pondering what you think about Spock's Beard/ Pattern Seeking Animals ? I be watching & wondering. Thanx for what you do !
Hi there J, On the intro you sing an E on a Em7 chord. Did you come up with the melody first? I'm asking cos I'd expect a 3rd, 5th or 7th, but never such a "contradiction". Thank you and much love ❤️
So where were the Black Keys when I was buying their CDs at £14.99 a pop, when they were costing peanuts to manufacture? Cant remember them bleating about their fans getting ripped off? Actually can’t remember Radiohead sticking up for me either..although now that they don’t make anything from streaming I’ve noticed they’ve put their head above the parapet.Cheers lads.
There’s a lot of grassroots bands using the bundle model to try and gain chart positions and then present themselves as being bigger than they actually are. But the proof is in the pudding, and if you get a top 40 album, drop out after 1 week and then only have 30 people showing up to your tour dates, something isn’t working and it won’t result in any longevity to your career. As you say Justin, it becomes this weird totemistic thing that is a million miles away from the creative magic of writing a song and recording it. That is where the focus should be.
Whitestripes and the Black Keys helped me kick the new music sucks mindset. Although a lot of it does, there is a lot good stuff too. I also suggest Reignwolf, Blue Stones, Black Pistol Fire
It has become increasingly difficult to know what "the product" is in the music industry, *because* it is an industry, and the product keeps changing. The "industry" bears a resemblance to the Yamaha Corporation. What do they make? What is their "product"? Is it synths, student keyboards, guitar pedals, guitars, motorcycles, stereos, specialty chips, pianos, outboard motors, washing machines, toasters? It just keeps expanding and transforming. Same thing with music. Once upon a time, the product consisted of a physical disc or a performance that required ticket purchase. Nowadays, with physical discs a largely nonentity, it's difficult to know what "the product" is.
As soon as he said, "They have to click the link to register a sale." I thought Oh Hell No! That whole "bundle" thing sounds just plain bad for the artist.
The Black Keys are great. The last album and the current album are working along your discussion idea. Delta Kream is a passion project of Delta blues covers. Dropout Boogie is the crowd / record company pleaser. A lot of movie directors have similar deals, Christopher Nolan did Interstellar because he agreed to Dark Knight Returns.
Just listened to parts of a set they did for radio one 9 yeas ago. There sound seemed to be a mix from hendrix, Budgie, pink floyed, etc, got a whole lot of influences in there sound. For a me a band i would want to hear live, but not necessarily a band i would listen to at home. I was chatting to a couple of people about a band called JINJER, and a chick said she couldn't imagine you liking them or even liking that sound of metal. Which made my wonder what does Justin Hawkins listen to at home, what does he have in his record collection. The Darkness was defently rock music, and had some heavy riffs in some track's. So maybe a good idea for a video since you're talking about other band's, what is Justin's range of musical taste? Also would you ever consider bringing the Darkness back?
Prince did the whole bundle thing in 2004 with musicology, he sold a ton of tickets/ albums , then sounds an changed the rules on what would count as a sale.
With enough bands like this out there and talking openly about it, I think warner brothers should worry about how relevant they are, with their out dated lists and ticket sales. It's a pretty widely known fact at this point, that until you're looking for international hardcopy distribution as well as concert management, that most working artists can make more publishing and distributing their works themselves. Even if the end numbers might look smaller, they tend to make more of "the pie", and companies just want too much of that pie for the littlest of returns in help and services provided really. More sales and listeners is great, but not if it's taking food off my table, I'd rather have smaller numbers and more of the returns. Publishing's not any more difficult than recording, if you can record yourselves, than publish yourselves, most aren't looking for hard copies of anything anymore anyway. Labels are going the way of the dinosaur as more n more smarten up imo. Good on everyone for it too, they're not needed, and I'd rather see an artist that inspires me get paid, than some exec. tool I could care less about that is utterly useless to me or the rest of the worlds cultural enrichment.
To me, being a musician is akin to being a journalist. That it is through the medium of music that we document world events, and to bring a different perspective around familiar things. The pop scene is, in most cases, everything that i think music shouldn't be. My 2 pence worth though. Thanks for the video!
The good thing about the Internet Age is that alot of artists can produce and release their music independently and keep ownership of their work and reserve all the earnings too. Record companies are in danger of becoming obsolete becoz of the way they conduct themselves and I personally think that's a good thing for artists. 🤘
"That's who's listening to this shit!" 🤣 Harry Styles did that bundle stuff on last tour, not sure about the current tour 🤔 but now I see how manufactured popularity and #1 etc metrics in music industry is done.
Prince started this bundle thing. Every ticket came with a CD, which put a CD no one heard on the charts. Because the tour was more popular than the album. Brilliant.
Lol, when I was 9 I bought a single on cassette tape of Calloway, “I Wanna Be Rich.” It was one of the first things I bought with my own money and I wore that tape out. I hope no hard working musicians from 1989 took that personally!
The Roger Taylor UK tour was buy the CD to get early access to tickets... I doubt he is restricted by record companies... but it did make us all buy the CD
Frank Zappa did an interview years ago when he said the same thing the old Guys just like the performance and covered the act and took a chance the newer guys don’t
squeaking like John Bonhams kick-drum peddle on "since I been loving you"
^Winner
Went to listen and died.
100%
Lol that's like one of my favorite aspects of any Zeppelin record. I discovered it before the internet and eventually thought to Google it to see if it was a thing. It's a thing.
Yes
It's not just music. I work in a library. We are judged on how many people walk through our doors, how many hours are used on the computers, how many books are issued each week, how many children finish our summer reading challenge. What we should be focusing on is the enjoyment people are getting from books and how it impacts on their lives, how a child progresses or even how an adult moves forward with their reading. That is more important but can't be measured with the numbers we have to record and the way we are assessed. It is messed up. Obviously the music business is about making money so has to be run like a business but this clearly misses a huge amount of information that is also essential.
The music I love doesn't even get featured on mainstream radio. Who is to say that people wouldn't enjoy the music if they were able to hear it without having to hunt for it. All decided by those people more interested in money than the music itself.
Nikki, I've been reading all of my life and I ain't no spring chicken. I switched to a Kindle many years and I always find some time to read each and every day. I feel that a life's worth of reading has improved both my vocabulary and intelligence. Thank you for all that you do.
I was a board member of a friends of the library - a woman gave $$$ to make a great mystery section - while there never could use donation - library only interested in new, new, new - out with the old & in with the new - the library had no concept of good literature
The industry conditions people to like music that is easy to replicate. If they allowed unique, original bands a platform, they wouldn't have complete control.
i love libraries cant lie
I read a great (i.e., awful but important) quote in Rolling Stone magazine 20 years ago (a magazine I normally dislike, my roommate had it). An RCA executive was greeting his new talent scouts. He started by asking what flavor of ice cream everyone like. One said chocolate, anther strawberry, another rocky road, etc. He then said, "So, think of all these flavors when you are scouting. And then go and find vanilla. Because vanilla is the #1 selling kind of ice cream". Sums up a lot of their thinking.
Justin joins Black Keys, they are now touring and performing as The Dark Keys
Oof that's good.
The Black Keys are one of my favorite bands and they really do create really unique and special songs and records together while maintaining a fun and natural sound. Magic Potion is full of amazing energy and guitar riffs and it’s so raw and pure, but even their most recent stuff is still so honest and creative. They really stay true to themselves as artists and musicians and that’s why I love them so much. Dan is also an incredible producer on top of being one of the best songwriters around today. The Black Keys inspired me to form a band 6 years ago with my brother and we’re still going at it while always focusing on the art of songwriting and musicianship and making original music we love. Creating music you love for the sake of creating something that is unique to you and the people you collaborate with and sharing it with the world. That’s what the Black Keys do and it’s what inspires us as musical creators.
@Skullzz McCarthy Wow thank you so much! The Black Keys are so incredible aren’t they!👏👌We appreciate the kind words and thank you so much for the sub! We hope you enjoy our music too🎸
I have only discovered this channel but it is throughly enjoyable. Justin is so well spoken, intelligent and kind . 🤘
"An unoiled mouse at the end of a cheese pipe"
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Been a talent buyer for 30 years. the music industry has been, and will always be a bit of a mess. Thank you for sharing this.
love your honesty
What's a talent buyer?
@@redmed10 a person who books shows.
@@arceneaux777
Thanks very much.
Totally dig The Black Keys. Look forward to your next vlog about them. I am impatiently awaiting to get my hands on their new record. Gonna spin their vinyl hard!
As an independent music producer I know it's so hard to get yourself out there. The "competition" isn't other producers/writers, it's the revenue they have and direction the major corporations decide to push. Having bought most back catalogues going back decades they are quite happy to keep the masses listening to older music, unless they can strangle the lifeblood and creativity of anything fresh that comes along and that looks like it might gain a following
I really enjoy the 'Down to Earth' approach you take, and the illusion shattering you propose. I was a musician for more than 40 years, and always advocated 'autonomy'. It took me to some places (big venues and big festivals), but people never understood why I wasn't interested in business, but rather interested in Music! Thank you for your efforts!
Also missed some big occasions!
Thank you for coming to Portland
We had a wonderful time with you and your brothers- please come back soon!
Justin your Videos never disappoint. I grew up in the skateboard with permission to land blasting and I have grownup with you. I love your approach to music and style in general . Keep up the great videos ! 🎵🎸
Prince bundled his album with a tour in 2004 - on his terms. Ahead of his time. He had the highest grossing tour of that year.
Value added experience. Thousands of concert goers remember that particular show every time they play the songs.
Yeah and they killed him for it!RIP Prince
JH sang the theme BEAUTIFULLY today. Always loved his voice, Still great. Also, these are my favorite type of JHRA vids as it's a perspective you can't get anywhere, a music industry insider who's still active and at the top of his game artistically (Motorheart is 9/10!)
have seen them 6 times since 2004, all in Australia.. 5 times as a 2 piece.. something special when it's the two of them.. those early albums are amazing.. saw them play 3 tracks in a friends tiny record store, Dan was quiet but friendly and we had quick chat.. I was a bit star struck...very talented guys
For God's Sake join my Patreon already *sigh* www.patreon.com/jushawk (the tone of this is jokingly irate for those of you taking it very seriously, do whatever you like in this world)
@@jimi1119 Justin is such a _tyrant_ for forcing you to watch it.
Oh, wait....
what is Patreon?
have some self respect man and stop e begging sigh!
Cant afford it, I'm a musician, so I cant afford jack shit, heavy sigh,
I could never repay Justin for the joy he's given me over the years so I'm not even going to try.😂
God I love watching your stuff. I really appreciate you breaking down songs because I know nothing of music theory. I remember first hearing the Darkness and thinking, "YES". My parents were huge Van Halen fans and it was the closest thing that was new that wasn't something I'd heard a million times. That being said, would love to hear your take on Thumpasaurus. Crazy internet culture.
Thickfreakness!!! Probably my favorite "dirty" garage sounding album. Not a bad cut on that one…
Spot on man, well said.
going to see them in a couple of months and I'm super pumped. Always love their insights
Magic Potion was the first record I heard from them. Stripped down, great song writing, Melody and guitar work. Love it. Especially the flame and elevator.
There isn't a bad album by them.
@@strangewayfaringstranger 100% Agree
Just Got to Be.........is a real scorcher.
@@centralscrutinizer9591 for sure
I remember Pat saying he didn't want their music to be playing in Walmart...I work at Walmart..Walmart played the HELL out of Lonely Boy on the ceiling speakers...lol... Walmart is the devil..
"I've got a love that keeps me waiting..."
My parents know that one.
in fairness though, it's a jam.
So it was gold on the ceiling then. Thank you, i'll be here all week.
Excellent intro, had me smiling that did. Love your videos Justin, you are definitely on to a winner.
Saw You and the boys in Seattle Friday. Great show as usual. The Dead Deads were great as well. Thank you all for coming out and entertaining us.
I fucking love the Black Keys. I wish I liked their music more because they are 2 of the most awesome people in music today.
Agreed. I think they write mediocre music but they're cool dudes.
Just found out you're in my town tonight!!! Wish I was attending mate! Have a gooder!!!
Brothers is probably my favourite Black Keys album, followed by Attack & Release. Very, very good band.
Best intro to any video on CZcams.
I loved the Black Keys as a duet. Great live act...F@#$ing loud...I thought they peaked with "Rubber Factory"..."Magc Potion" was like a Last Hurrah, before moving on...heavier and very riffy. All those early one's were great.
Thank you so much for leaving in the first 70 seconds. That was glorious. Also, you sir are a treasure. Never really listened to The Darkeness, but you better believe this channel has righted my ship. Cheers!
Prince did all of this 20 years ago - got to give him a shout out in this video. Not only did he craft his own label for this reason he also did bundling for the Musicology album
Bought the album and a shirt from their website while watching the video. I absolutely love the Black Keys and Eff the record labels that have absolutely wrecked Rock and great music in general.
I heard an auto industry president say in regards to your supercar analogy (Ironically it was the 70’s and he was referring to the expensive and pie in the sky environmentally safe version of a car) that “dreaming is essential to growth and innovation but unfortunately so is eating”
I do not like The Black Keys but when stars get into the brass tacks and break it down in terms of bean counting they always have interesting things to say because it seems all of them get screwed over at one point or another.
Magic Potion is for sure my favorite Black Keys album . . . although, oddly, I've heard the Black Keys themselves say they were unhappy with it. For my money, it's perfect. The last "core" Black Keys album IMO. Sounds like it was recorded in a garage. Nothing since has had that DIY vibe. I wish they could get back to that, but I also understand why they can't, and I don't begrudge them for that. Glad they are who they are because they are . . . great.
Man I subscribed when you were in your 30000's, now nearly 100000, congrats dude.
Congrats on nearly hitting the big 100k...I bloody love The Black Keys & yourself...Do you think they're a bit under appreciated? In the sphere of great Rock bands...
Hello hello, being a failed successful musician, (long story) no-one talks much about after the bubble bursts and you need to make a living after music. Glad I didnt end up famous and poor like some others have. You must know people who had a hit or two, dropped by label and then have to get a proper job. I still feel sick inside from the effort it took to get signed and then the failure. A life long dream coming true and your heart breaking when it fails after being 100% certain. - Its like being a 100m sprinter and running 9.5 in training only to always false start in races. - Sorry its a bit serious. Love the channel, you come across sincere and witty.
Thanks for bringing my attention to this. I saw these guys live with Arctic Monkeys in 2012, and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. But over the last decade I've been less inspired by their output--it seems like every time Dan Auerbach collaborates with someone the Black Keys start to sound more like that someone, and not for the better. This is a reminder of all of the industry garbage they have to fight just to release anything at all, and I'm now inclined to be a bit more forgiving of them for getting watered down.
I hope they self-release a crusher next. I'll be here for it.
"Fuck that" is the perfect response,
The industry is two polar opposites,
1, the record company owns the artist and the art, but they will push your creation to a targeted world audience because it is in their interests, and they could make a shit ton of money while giving you a small percentage and they also retain the option of interfering with your future art to fit whatever trend is most popular. Or.
2, self release and own 100% of the art, where the artist has full creative control, full ownership, and 100% of the royalties, but the downside is small sales, low visibility to target audiences,
But when some dudes or dudettes in somewhere like Chile or Seattle are downloading your music with virtually no promotion behind it, it's the best feeling in the world, and then theres the
.0039 of a dollar to collect too. KA CHING. It's a riddle, wrapped in an enigma that's locked in a conundrum.
Nearly 100k, getting there! Getting there!
Makes me think about David Gedge and The Wedding Present and the how the indie label idea of the late 70s/early 80s works in the 2020s. Not massive numbers but i guess money input and output works as a sustainable thing for the artist
So much has changed in the music world, fair play to them. I've distanced myself from the scene., I still DJ but that's my jam now. If I do another album you can come to play on it Justin, love your vids, you have so much knowledge on theory and shit. I'd love to have u on one of my records. This guy from the black keys, knows what he is is on about.
This is probably my favorite channel on CZcams.
Thanks!
This is like a Rick Beato video waiting to happen. This guy is absolutely right. Screw Warner Bros/WMG. Makes me want to do something about their gobbling up the rights to all the great classic rock artists, and then coming down on music-related CZcams channels like the Blue-haired Lawyer when they play ten seconds of that artist's song in their video. Bands like The Grateful Dead should never belong to a conglomerate!
I really liked that Rogan interview of The Black Keys, I watched it through a couple of times, going in I very much thought I'd find that Dan was the enigmatic voice behind the band, but it became clear quite quickly that this wasn't at all true. It was obvious from Dan's respect and reverence for Patrick that the dynamic within the band differed from the external view. I feel very much that Patrick is Dan's muse in the band and that they appear very much like brothers who have whole heartedly accepted each other for who they are. Very cool dudes indeed 😎😎👍👍
I'm sure I read that they are not even friends. Not that they dislike each other, but that it's just a work thing. They are 'colleagues', I guess.
@@dickmonkey-king1271 How true can that be though, even in working relationships there is some cross over. They seem to like each other, it comes across that way to me at least. I think stating that it's a business thing only is a way of keeping the media at arms length and denying them of an avenue to exploit..
“Squeaking like Jack White after hearing the new Black Keys record?”
Well don't on the comment and the name. Fair play.
I admire and like both - wtf has happened now?
I'd thought JW and the BK's had buried the hatchet?
Maybe they should do an album together considering they've both played live with the Stones
And the Stones don't jam with and promote aresholes.
Justin hang in there bro - one day at a time - don't overdo it - maybe get Jack White and the Black Keys together and produce the album
It'd be a rip-snorter my friend
Peace
Zing
I just discovered this channel after being a long time TD fan…. Justin, love your meanderings about all things in the music business. I definitely didn’t catch that with your on stage persona. Can’t wait to see you in April in Atlanta. I’ll buy you a Coke (coca-cola)!
I watch Rick Beato and he was saying some of the reasons modern music production is soo awful is A. producers just replace the band with studio guys and keep the singer and B. all the good producers were let go during the housing bubble crash and what we have now is the B team. So when I look at the AWFUL "top 40" today I wonder what use are major labels today outside of advertisement because it certainly isnt music production.
Some really good music just gets buried away ....and it really sucks, youtube is a godsend for coming across amazing stuff ...but even then it is buried in the algorithm. I am coming across amazing stuff all the time like Cardiacs i only found out about a few years ago with sing to god which sent me down a rabbit hole. Few months ago came across Angel- The Tower song it blew my mind....and it was a 70s song i never heard of.
The Black Keys are just doing what all hobby musicians do but they have a lot of fans. I shared a coffee shop with them in Akron in the 2000’s.
I totally love this type of musical form. Black Keys, White Stripes, Immortal Lee County Killers, all kinds of bands described as punk blues, not necessarily two-person. My favorite band of all time is The Gun Club, so underappreciated which is a shame.
Streaming has destroyed the traditional industry right? The streaming platforms will be dragging millions off the old catalogues for years to come. And the artists will never have any clout unless they stop using those platforms. I think we’re in a foggy area at the moment. To me he sounds very bitter and he probably has made a lot of money up until now. Artists take themselves very seriously. They think the music is serious business too. I only listen to music on the radio now. I never did that before. Fuck it. I find music so full of opinions that at 46 I can finally let go of the idea of music as a serious art form. It’s just a bit of fun. The darkness had the right idea. Just make it fun, for fun’s sake. And get off your high horses. If you don’t like the industry that made you rich then just go off and do your own thing in complete obscurity. For your own enjoyment.
I so appreciate the laughs. You have no idea.
I love Justine’s genuineness!
Immensely baked, sir!ha! When you said the black keys’, I thought you meant...er...b flat minor. How do you get a publishing deal? I’ve written songs but ain’t gotta clue how to .... publish it?
It's a bit ironic though
I mean the black keys came out wanting to be on every format and genre, so they made sure they had tunes that could be played on every station.
I mean c'mon, the black keys on your local metal channel sandwiched between Metallica and Lamb of God?
Point being you had to get rich using the industry in the first place, to be able to afford to act like you're flipping them off later.
I think they simply are coming down from that power trip, and now see themselves being clumped in with Nickleback and are realizing they went too far.
MHO. There are artists wanting to live to make and/or perform music on one side. There are entrepreneurs who risks money to make more money on the other side. I don't think bad about either, I've been a free lance and an employee. The problem with the music industry is that they were making money over the logistic, printing CDs and moving them around. Now that that kind of business is irrelevant the industry needs more to survive while artists are slowing returning to the era when musicians had to be active performers, teachers or composers in order to make a living. The era of making money off a recorded performance is slowly getting to an end.
I love the fit of giggles..we have all done it and the more you try to stifle it the worse it gets..Its contagious too.. :D
The long pause to describe how the chair is squeaking 🤣🤣
Your laugh at the beginning was really contagious :D
Thank you Justin. That was a great video. I am very passionate about truly good music and I need the best songwriters to be able to do what they do
Hello mate : Rick from Oregon here, I have been pondering what you think about Spock's Beard/ Pattern Seeking Animals ? I be watching & wondering. Thanx for what you do !
Hi there J,
On the intro you sing an E on a Em7 chord.
Did you come up with the melody first?
I'm asking cos I'd expect a 3rd, 5th or 7th, but never such a "contradiction".
Thank you and much love ❤️
You could do a ‘Great American Songbook’/Crooners LP under the artist name of ‘Justin Hawkins & The Cheesepipes. I’d buy that.
Bowie even stated, he had to produce hits so who can do what he truly was passionate about.
Now how often to we see THAT. Love the squeaky chair outtake
Intro: crushed it
My chair is squeaking like a well hung buck field mouse on the hunt for a mate.
There you go Juzzy… simples🤘🎸
That intro was hilarious !
So where were the Black Keys when I was buying their CDs at £14.99 a pop, when they were costing peanuts to manufacture? Cant remember them bleating about their fans getting ripped off? Actually can’t remember Radiohead sticking up for me either..although now that they don’t make anything from streaming I’ve noticed they’ve put their head above the parapet.Cheers lads.
I really hope "unoiled mice in a cheese pipe" is a line in the next Darkness single!
that beginning was some surreal thing. maybe molly? I wish.. can we have some? maybe...
Justin you looked blazed during this I love it
There’s a lot of grassroots bands using the bundle model to try and gain chart positions and then present themselves as being bigger than they actually are. But the proof is in the pudding, and if you get a top 40 album, drop out after 1 week and then only have 30 people showing up to your tour dates, something isn’t working and it won’t result in any longevity to your career. As you say Justin, it becomes this weird totemistic thing that is a million miles away from the creative magic of writing a song and recording it. That is where the focus should be.
Whitestripes and the Black Keys helped me kick the new music sucks mindset. Although a lot of it does, there is a lot good stuff too. I also suggest Reignwolf, Blue Stones, Black Pistol Fire
It has become increasingly difficult to know what "the product" is in the music industry, *because* it is an industry, and the product keeps changing. The "industry" bears a resemblance to the Yamaha Corporation. What do they make? What is their "product"? Is it synths, student keyboards, guitar pedals, guitars, motorcycles, stereos, specialty chips, pianos, outboard motors, washing machines, toasters? It just keeps expanding and transforming. Same thing with music. Once upon a time, the product consisted of a physical disc or a performance that required ticket purchase. Nowadays, with physical discs a largely nonentity, it's difficult to know what "the product" is.
Justin you are thinking of Aston Martin where they had to make a tiny car I believe it was called the Cygnet to offset their carbon emissions.
As soon as he said, "They have to click the link to register a sale." I thought Oh Hell No! That whole "bundle" thing sounds just plain bad for the artist.
Excellent segment 🤔
Keep up the good work Justin 👍🏻
Thanks! 👍
The Black Keys are great. The last album and the current album are working along your discussion idea. Delta Kream is a passion project of Delta blues covers. Dropout Boogie is the crowd / record company pleaser. A lot of movie directors have similar deals, Christopher Nolan did Interstellar because he agreed to Dark Knight Returns.
Just listened to parts of a set they did for radio one 9 yeas ago. There sound seemed to be a mix from hendrix, Budgie, pink floyed, etc, got a whole lot of influences in there sound. For a me a band i would want to hear live, but not necessarily a band i would listen to at home. I was chatting to a couple of people about a band called JINJER, and a chick said she couldn't imagine you liking them or even liking that sound of metal. Which made my wonder what does Justin Hawkins listen to at home, what does he have in his record collection. The Darkness was defently rock music, and had some heavy riffs in some track's. So maybe a good idea for a video since you're talking about other band's, what is Justin's range of musical taste? Also would you ever consider bringing the Darkness back?
Prince did the whole bundle thing in 2004 with musicology, he sold a ton of tickets/ albums , then sounds an changed the rules on what would count as a sale.
Scan **
Always thought you’d be a better fit fronting Queen than the guy they have now, cheers
Justin Hawkins favourite black keys album is magic potion! A very classic rock choice
With enough bands like this out there and talking openly about it, I think warner brothers should worry about how relevant they are, with their out dated lists and ticket sales. It's a pretty widely known fact at this point, that until you're looking for international hardcopy distribution as well as concert management, that most working artists can make more publishing and distributing their works themselves. Even if the end numbers might look smaller, they tend to make more of "the pie", and companies just want too much of that pie for the littlest of returns in help and services provided really. More sales and listeners is great, but not if it's taking food off my table, I'd rather have smaller numbers and more of the returns. Publishing's not any more difficult than recording, if you can record yourselves, than publish yourselves, most aren't looking for hard copies of anything anymore anyway. Labels are going the way of the dinosaur as more n more smarten up imo. Good on everyone for it too, they're not needed, and I'd rather see an artist that inspires me get paid, than some exec. tool I could care less about that is utterly useless to me or the rest of the worlds cultural enrichment.
I remember when the Guitar player was on American Pickers. That was cool
great seeing you help out the old timers on Rock til we drop.
To me, being a musician is akin to being a journalist. That it is through the medium of music that we document world events, and to bring a different perspective around familiar things.
The pop scene is, in most cases, everything that i think music shouldn't be. My 2 pence worth though. Thanks for the video!
“And next up is the new hit single from The Darkness, “Cheese Pipe”
The good thing about the Internet Age is that alot of artists can produce and release their music independently and keep ownership of their work and reserve all the earnings too. Record companies are in danger of becoming obsolete becoz of the way they conduct themselves and I personally think that's a good thing for artists. 🤘
Thank you. Just... thank you!
"That's who's listening to this shit!" 🤣
Harry Styles did that bundle stuff on last tour, not sure about the current tour 🤔 but now I see how manufactured popularity and #1 etc metrics in music industry is done.
Do a video on Poets Of The Fall pleaseeeee. Either of two songs: Carnival Of Rust or Requiem of my Harlequin
“Unoiled mouse”…love this man!❤
Prince started this bundle thing. Every ticket came with a CD, which put a CD no one heard on the charts. Because the tour was more popular than the album. Brilliant.
Which is ironic because he did that on his own and labels bit his idea. Because of course.
Lol, when I was 9 I bought a single on cassette tape of Calloway, “I Wanna Be Rich.” It was one of the first things I bought with my own money and I wore that tape out. I hope no hard working musicians from 1989 took that personally!
As a member of a band on a small label - it's very hard to make money and a lot is geared around streams
The Roger Taylor UK tour was buy the CD to get early access to tickets... I doubt he is restricted by record companies... but it did make us all buy the CD
Black Door is one of my favorite songs. I wish there was more music like that.
Frank Zappa did an interview years ago when he said the same thing the old Guys just like the performance and covered the act and took a chance the newer guys don’t
Best intro so far 10/10