The music industry is literally a scam

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  • čas přidán 15. 03. 2022
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  • @jaketran
    @jaketran  Před 2 lety +303

    🎧 Get 100 JAM tokens for free and stream music to support artists at tune.fm/

    • @ecocodex4431
      @ecocodex4431 Před 2 lety +158

      No.

    • @fireflymiesumae
      @fireflymiesumae Před 2 lety +6

      Hey

    • @rise7056
      @rise7056 Před 2 lety +31

      no

    • @MarshalerOfficial
      @MarshalerOfficial Před 2 lety +4

      At least, Moon promotes something that is not NFT-intergrated everytime he makes a video, and some other sponsors.
      has anyone heard of Masterworks. I did not

    • @elangbam3115
      @elangbam3115 Před 2 lety +7

      Jake why on earth did you edit Blackpink video on this video? Do you think kpop labels are like loan sharks like the shitty western music labels is?? Don't confuse okay. Don't put kpop labels on the same standards as western music companies. In Korea, the govt. Provide 2percent of its annual gdp as subsidies to kpop labels. So kpop labels are not so broke like western music labels that they don't need to employ shitty contracts to suck dry the artist under there labels. I hope you are now enlightened about the differences between kpop labels and western music labels.🙏

  • @senju31
    @senju31 Před 2 lety +2352

    I am beginning to think that everything is a scam.

    • @thatman6916
      @thatman6916 Před 2 lety +263

      Scamming is human nature, so yeah, everything that involve humans is a scam

    • @wintermint7
      @wintermint7 Před 2 lety +197

      Capitalism be like that.

    • @Fu3g0.100
      @Fu3g0.100 Před 2 lety +27

      @@wintermint7 all pure systems be like that
      Communism : instant enslavement by whoever distributes the goods and services. Also almost evrything stagnates and barely changes for decades.
      Socialism : Needs a shit ton of money to start and a decent amount to maintain, tax heavy so isnt realistic for pre developed countries.
      Capitalism : only pro is innovation through competition and creativity.plus the freemarket aspect is true. Cons, when anyone grows too big its technically run by the biggest monopoly present in the system

    • @wintermint7
      @wintermint7 Před 2 lety +30

      @@Fu3g0.100 😂 tell me you’ve never read political theory without telling me you’ve never read political theory
      How does Communism/Socialism result in “instant enslavement” when it’s the workers who own the means of production?

    • @Fu3g0.100
      @Fu3g0.100 Před 2 lety +76

      @@wintermint7 it doesnt actually work that way when practiced, the people own the production but theres always some sort of distribution party, this is usually the government.
      This is where the corruption always starts and eventually when the resources can no longer support the population because of unnecessary even distribution
      Whoever was distributing becomes the oppresser.
      Because they had the power all along

  • @DavidNwokoye
    @DavidNwokoye Před 2 lety +5004

    As an aspiring musician. The only way I see music being viable these days is to do it independently. Everything the record label offers these days can be done yourself. Artists now gotta diversify their skillsets to push out their songs.

    • @Bru21424
      @Bru21424 Před 2 lety +74

      True but not all music labels are bad

    • @Planko991
      @Planko991 Před 2 lety +38

      @@Bru21424 lol

    • @DavidNwokoye
      @DavidNwokoye Před 2 lety +387

      @@Bru21424 that's like finding a unicorn

    • @lep3984
      @lep3984 Před 2 lety +200

      @@Bru21424 Yeah they are not all bad the artist just sells their human rights to the labels and the labels work them to death

    • @Bru21424
      @Bru21424 Před 2 lety +13

      @@lep3984 ok I know that it's seems doulisonal but what about joji's musical label he is working for.

  • @katem3
    @katem3 Před 2 lety +642

    Watching this boils my blood. Thankfully, the label we've been with recently let us go when we asked them to. They released us out of our contract as we had such a mentally draining time recording our second album. They're some of the good people. But the label we were with when releasing our first album, made so much off us - it's a joke. Our Spotify has earned nearly 300k, and my bandmate and I have seen about 10k of that each. When recouping the advance and expenses, the label took only our 50% to cover the recouping, and their 50% was income. So by the time we started making any money off our music, they had earned double. It's set up for artists to fail and it's heartbreaking. (What's even more frustrating, is the song that blew up on Spotify and made them all their money - WE actually paid for, as they didn't want it on the EP and we did. Kill me.) Luckily, I stay clear from any third parties now and make a very decent living off music. I won't go near labels or publishers again. They're just pie pinchers. You can do EVERYTHING yourself now - so why give your art away? Never. Again.

    • @jatjeonamorh
      @jatjeonamorh Před 2 lety +11

      Yaaa i see ya independent artist noww So chill&play Guitar 🎻

    • @samtavoosian3059
      @samtavoosian3059 Před 2 lety +7

      That sucks! How do you wish the label industry be? Any thoughts on how you think they must do instead?

    • @daniellepreyar
      @daniellepreyar Před 2 lety +12

      Wow, thanks for sharing your story. That's terrible what you all experienced. Good you're better off now. ❤

    • @DebarshiChowdhurykolkata
      @DebarshiChowdhurykolkata Před rokem +3

      Just subscribed, keep making good art. Cheese!

    • @MrOlu1234
      @MrOlu1234 Před rokem +1

      Can u start a chords for independent artists

  • @AwokenEntertainment
    @AwokenEntertainment Před 2 lety +525

    it's incredible how many artists don't view the 'album advance' as a loan..

    • @littunes4284
      @littunes4284 Před rokem

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    • @BargerClan
      @BargerClan Před rokem +15

      Makes sense that the Devil own’s the music industry it’s evil

    • @KKelly-ng1ni
      @KKelly-ng1ni Před rokem +6

      @@BargerClan Then why are you here? Shouldn't you be somewhere listening to sermons?

    • @jojokiwi1888
      @jojokiwi1888 Před rokem

      @@KKelly-ng1ni Lol calm ya tits mate.

    • @pariah2society
      @pariah2society Před rokem +5

      Yeah it's supposed to cover your living costs and costs of making an album for example which is going to be a loooooot

  • @mercedontmiss
    @mercedontmiss Před 2 lety +2329

    As an engineer I would advise ALL artists to have a lawyer present while signing any documents

    • @ducodarling
      @ducodarling Před 2 lety +273

      As a person living in 2022, I would advise not signing any documents. Ever, if possible.

    • @Rocketshoes
      @Rocketshoes Před 2 lety +171

      7/10 they’ll cut the lawyer a deal themselves

    • @memorylane3457
      @memorylane3457 Před 2 lety +106

      Some of these deals actually provide an incentive for the lawyer to talk you into signing.

    • @Lmomjian
      @Lmomjian Před 2 lety +89

      what does being an engineer have to do with it lol

    • @mgc9965
      @mgc9965 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Lmomjian
      Might be cause they force bonds or something to get jobs that then pay low?

  • @thefilmpoets
    @thefilmpoets Před 2 lety +2784

    I was pumped to see a non-NFT pushing video, and then it hit me : For the music industry- the TuneFM token is the middleman and the owners who pre-mined the coins are where the profits will go.

    • @kofiboateng9181
      @kofiboateng9181 Před 2 lety +279

      Theres always a middle man my guy. Unless you hand the money directly to the artist.

    • @LarpingSupply
      @LarpingSupply Před 2 lety +719

      The NFT pushing (let’s not sugar coat it Pyramid Scheme…) really removed a lot of my trust in this channel.
      Great content but I really lost most of my trust.

    • @RealDJStew724
      @RealDJStew724 Před 2 lety +566

      Agreed. I was digging the video until the shady dude in sunglasses started his "pitch" and ended with "you'll never lose" nahhh this video didn't even highlight any other alternatives - just a straight plug for TuneFM. so lame

    • @roniemena
      @roniemena Před 2 lety +281

      @@LarpingSupply here's a better lesson: don't trust strangers on the internet. This channel is his livelihood and getting sponsors is just business.

    • @Evanderj
      @Evanderj Před 2 lety +547

      @@LarpingSupply one day, Jake Tran will do a video on the shady business of Jake Tran.

  • @NathanJamesLarsen
    @NathanJamesLarsen Před 2 lety +502

    As much as artists don't want to learn the business - they have to. Take a play from Lauv. He started his own label and built his own team around him to build up a business structure that they mostly control - he still has a publishing deal but that's for writing only and not distribution of his own music as an artist.
    Would you rather have 1 million fans and make hardly any money or have 100k fans and make a killer living?
    Don't need to have a million fans to make a fantastic career when you own 100% of what you do. But sadly most creatives hate the business side so much that they are willing to make a deal with the devil to avoid it.
    The industry is changing so much that smart artists and creators are finding people to either partner with them or give them a percentage to run their business. That is way smarter than giving away masters.

    • @markwilson8981
      @markwilson8981 Před rokem +8

      This is a really good take tbh

    • @mrike5651
      @mrike5651 Před rokem

      A lot of Christian music artist own their own.

    • @rustjones6914
      @rustjones6914 Před rokem +7

      Please wake up ..... All music artists worship the devil. Just listen to what they sing about it. The only reason they have some artists claim they are "self-made" or "self managed" is because they want people to believe in the lie and not look for the truth. Everyone is an actor and they all get the same check. And it's based on how you worship, not on your talent. That's why you see critically acclaimed musicians/actors eventually FLOP. They should technically have more experience so be even more successful right??? But no, it has nothing to do with talent. Which is why they usually disappear after a few years unless they are deep in the occult and can last longer. The music has no power over us unless the artist worships when it's released. That's why you hear average songs top the charts and songs that should technically be famous never go anywhere

    • @feliciaboston6365
      @feliciaboston6365 Před rokem +1

      I'd rather have millions of fans that way I get plenty of endorsement deals and plenty of money

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      @littunes4284 Před rokem

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  • @thomasrobinson182
    @thomasrobinson182 Před 2 lety +267

    There was never a golden era for artists and songwriters. Deals have always been structured to benefit labels.

    • @brigadierharsh1948
      @brigadierharsh1948 Před rokem +19

      Why would record labels exist if not for that reason? It should be clear to everyone at this point that businesses exist to maximize their own profits, not to hold back, share, or provide anything more to anyone than they have to. Everyone who wants to make money off you should be assumed to be trying to do so to the greatest extent they possibly can, even if it means being deceptive or sneaky about certain things. This should just always be assumed on the part of the consumer. You can’t get all whiny and moralistic about the fact that no one is actually altruistic. You just have to acknowledge that they are serving their own interests and figure out a way to serve yours.

    • @williamhiles7404
      @williamhiles7404 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not for Led Zeppelin. They had the best deal of all the bands.
      LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

    • @aheendwhz1
      @aheendwhz1 Před 4 měsíci +4

      According to Paul McCartney, not even the Beatles really got the money their records made (that's what their song "You never give me your money" is about). And they infamously didn't get the publishing rights. Michael Jackson later bought them, which drove Paul insane.
      I don't buy a single bit of the glorified presentation of 80s record labels in this video.

    • @alfsmith4936
      @alfsmith4936 Před měsícem

      @@aheendwhz1 Paul did alright. He's just a control freak.. The Beatles would never have been what they were without EMI, George Martin and the crew provided to them. Half the effects you can buy on VST today were invented at, or by people working in Abbey Road studios, not to mention the promotion they got from their crappy publishing deal.

    • @aheendwhz1
      @aheendwhz1 Před měsícem

      @@alfsmith4936 That's right. But there are still artists doing alright.
      A group as successful as the Beatles wouldn't be worse off these days.
      There are still labels that invest huge amounts into the production of an album.
      One difference is that it was easier back then to get a foot into the door of a label if you're not yet successful or well-known. But that's only because there was no way back then to get successful without a label. You couldn't get a record into the stores without a label. These days you can, so labels wait for your records to be successful before they sign you.
      Is this the golden ara of music, because basically eveyone can produce music even with advanced effects and sound design an publish it online, and you're not fucked if no label signs you? Or was the 20th centuary the golden age of music, because labels signed more artists?
      Given it was still unlikely for any single person to be signed in the 60s, I'd argue that these days are much more golden, as you can at least produce your stuff and listen to it with your friends.
      One argument for the 60s/70s/80s being the "golden age of pop music" I see is that labels didn't yet recognise the importance of style, personality and other factors for the commercial success of a music act. So in the beginning of the music industry, they looked much more on the music itself. This was an economical fallacy, but artistry profited from that fallacy.
      However, this already changed in the 80s and 90s. It has nothing to do with the technical advancements coming with the Internet and stuff.

  • @user-mb5px2cc6l
    @user-mb5px2cc6l Před 2 lety +1321

    Bruh, for someone that talks about scams and scummy practices its really bold of you yo promote a "Crypto powered" service. As a software developer I know how beneficial decentralized technology could be, but right now its just a waste land of scammers that call themselves "Entrepreneurs". Crypto right now isn't a way of gaining independence from controlled currency, but an easier mean to scam and steal.

    • @Lmomjian
      @Lmomjian Před 2 lety +40

      agreed!

    • @anilmenon3927
      @anilmenon3927 Před 2 lety +16

      your basing your opinion on assumptions and not facts.... just like regular life crypto has scams too but there are plenty of innovative protocols out there with legit usecases.... you can hate all you want but nft music will become the norm in the coming years (5-10 years maybe) as it makes so much more sense than traditional record labels

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge Před 2 lety +98

      @@anilmenon3927 To be fair he qualified his comment with 'right now'. And he made a strong ethos point from the perspective of a software developer. You may be right down the road but he's not wrong about the current landscape.

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 Před 2 lety +14

      True and crypto is also terrible for the environment

    • @anilmenon3927
      @anilmenon3927 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Iron-Bridge yeah but thats thing....he is wrong about the current landscape.... crypto is not a wasteland of scammers... ofcourse scams are prevalent but there a plenty of dapps and protocols which solve real problems and can be of use to masses....

  • @Robo-kz3nr
    @Robo-kz3nr Před 2 lety +131

    "The number one music NFT Marketplace"
    excuse me, can you roll that back?

    • @DeathSensei
      @DeathSensei Před 2 lety +46

      Fr. Man makes a whole semi decent essay video only to promote NFTs for what seems like a sketchy company. Literally he could’ve mentioned something like bandcamp where artist can be independent and make money directly from their community but didn’t.

    • @mattatk92
      @mattatk92 Před 2 lety +3

      So sad to see him push this scam garbage

    • @ThatOneDreadHead
      @ThatOneDreadHead Před 2 lety +3

      As soon as I got to this part of the video, I paused it and immediately went to the comments. I'm not the only one!

  • @lordronin
    @lordronin Před 2 lety +150

    I am signed to a major record label and I have not been paid in 2 years. This video is very accurate
    They have made $1 million from my song and have never been paid me a single cent.
    These are the people that are destroying the music industry. Stay Independent

    • @trix1227
      @trix1227 Před rokem +8

      Why don’t you distribute the music yourself Check out Symphonic distribution that’s what I use I get to keep all my royalties all of them you only pay a $20 membership fee once and then you pay approximately $20 per album as a one time fee as well but you keep everything to yourself

    • @aniket5825
      @aniket5825 Před rokem +1

      @Raunak Mitra - Hyper-ion nah that's juice wrld

  • @FullHouseFanatic
    @FullHouseFanatic Před rokem +71

    The fact that Elvis Presley, who people held more in awe than anyone else at one point, was screwed almost throughout his career by not just his manager but also the big record labels is a testament of how powerful big music was and still is.

    • @alfsmith4936
      @alfsmith4936 Před měsícem +2

      The fact he never wrote a song and we still think of him as a legend just shows how the music business works. Everyone did well out of Elvis. Even with the screwing, he had everything he wanted, until he screwed himself.

  • @Billlieandbelllieves
    @Billlieandbelllieves Před 2 lety +1092

    The crazy thing is that Kpop labels are actually very transparent about all of this happening.
    Once a person gets cut off from a Kpop label they can’t use their stage name (it’s owned by the company), they can’t re-debut with the same band name (also owned by the company - see Gfriend after being cut off from Source Music/Hybe), and it’s unclear whether they can sing their own songs (see Hyuna after being cut from Cube).
    Even worse: loads of Kpop artists have repeatedly come forward to say they weren’t paid until after 3/4/5 years after debut. There’s the whole trainee debt too, but everything Jake said about the “label/writer/producer cut” also applies.

    • @fluffybunchy
      @fluffybunchy Před 2 lety +126

      What sucks the most is you gotta pay so much to train for a couple years and not even debut or you do debut but your group flops

    • @xmochix604
      @xmochix604 Před 2 lety +15

      @@fluffybunchy not much different than western artist. They get paid upfront and then work like a slave. It’s why they get paid last

    • @davm97
      @davm97 Před 2 lety +29

      They have factories for K popers, lmao

    • @Billlieandbelllieves
      @Billlieandbelllieves Před 2 lety +55

      @@davm97 that’s not necessarily a bad thing. If they control their artists’ images and mold them to their liking/to suit market trends, the likelihood of making money shoots up. It’s just business.

    • @theMrTJF
      @theMrTJF Před 2 lety +30

      Even worse: kpop

  • @EvilTaco
    @EvilTaco Před 2 lety +339

    Bruh I actually feel like tune fm is a scam, wtf
    The UI is completely broken, the first song I played literally blasted my ears, the stop button didn't even work and neither did the volume slider

    • @greenleafyman1028
      @greenleafyman1028 Před 2 lety +23

      It's more like an underdeveloped music platform than scam. This will only became scam if they don't stick in their promise that artists will be paid more.

    • @HoChiMints2007
      @HoChiMints2007 Před 2 lety +21

      "LISTEN TO THIS SONG!!!"
      "No pls make it stop"
      "LISTEN!!!"

    • @readyrock3242
      @readyrock3242 Před 2 lety +2

      Literally couldn’t do shit in the website

    • @acommonman7950
      @acommonman7950 Před 2 lety +2

      It definitely is.

    • @osborne4282
      @osborne4282 Před 2 lety +12

      the whole website looks like it was made in India by scammers 😂

  • @jekku4688
    @jekku4688 Před rokem +17

    The music industry is truly DEMONIC. They do everything they can to push away those who are TRULY talented, in lieu of easily manipulatable, auto-tunable, no talent low lifes that can be controlled by the industry. Then, once in, the industry goes to great lengths to make sure the artist brings in the most profit, while they squelch their talent. And EVERYTHING comes out of the artists pocket : air travel, hotels, catering, payroll of the myriad people working for/with them, booking fees, manager fees, you name it. Then, because albums/records/CDs are now passe, the promotions team puts the artist on brutally long-winded tour dates, where they don't even have time to catch a breath between shows, which are usually back-to-back-to-back night after night, making the artist exhausted and soon worthless on stage. Then, when they're used up, and squeezed out, they're kicked to the curb to turn around and find a new sucker for the evil same ride. It looks oh-so-glamorous from the outside, but it's a nightmare for the artist once they've made it. It's truly a wonder ANY artist can make any money at all the way things are nowadays.

  • @sonking2705
    @sonking2705 Před rokem +37

    One of the sad things is that artists have to spend more time being video producers and social media marketers now than just being artists, which is probably why most new music sucks now.

  • @zioping
    @zioping Před 2 lety +1389

    Jake is such inclusive. From high level govt organizations to celebrity singers. The hitlist keeps on growing.

    • @aymanjc4146
      @aymanjc4146 Před 2 lety +13

      To be fair though there is detail documentary in youtube which jake make. He basically makes a summary of detail document and it is good.

    • @simmethaboi5232
      @simmethaboi5232 Před 2 lety +5

      @@aymanjc4146 where he fins these docs?

    • @lalumierehuguenote
      @lalumierehuguenote Před 2 lety +11

      Inclusive is the wrong word. Eclectic would we better

    • @walkingtree2486
      @walkingtree2486 Před 2 lety +4

      His name on hitlists keep growing too

    • @mexicarspotter
      @mexicarspotter Před 2 lety +10

      It was an Ad this whole time 🤣

  • @bad_money
    @bad_money Před 2 lety +72

    Prince was shouting this from the rooftops decades ago.

  • @ahuddleston6512
    @ahuddleston6512 Před 2 lety +7

    Prince noticed this back in the 80's and started his own label in the 90's, changed his name to that symbol. He was the man!

  • @creamofsumyungai439
    @creamofsumyungai439 Před 2 lety +42

    Damn. I thought by the end of the video they would get to the part that's like 'But here's the good news: there are still many healthy, sound avenues to release your music independently.' But instead they were like 'Here's the good news: OUR SPONSOR!!!' Lol

  • @atensaprempeh7121
    @atensaprempeh7121 Před 2 lety +1081

    Jake how can you push this bs man. Such a phenomenal video only to end it with a platform that will reward the people who own the token to use the platform first… it’s a scam and you know it. I love your content but you gotta choose your sponsors wisely.

    • @user-fi6dl6ow8l
      @user-fi6dl6ow8l Před 2 lety +1

      thanks for watching text me there's a new opportunity you're missing out on📝📝📲📲👆👆👆.....

    • @zoemystique7773
      @zoemystique7773 Před 2 lety +10

      @@carlosdavy327 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @pradhanan9413
      @pradhanan9413 Před 2 lety +4

      How's it a scam ? Can someone explain?

    • @taronhadlames84
      @taronhadlames84 Před 2 lety +3

      @@pradhanan9413 The people who own the token which is being used to pay the artists have control over the market. So although it may be ok now, sooner or later that power will be exploited to the artists and by extension the listeners to drain every last bit of cash from all parties involved and because the token is 'owned' there's likely not much that artists will be able to do once the token owners begin bleeding them dry.

    • @pradhanan9413
      @pradhanan9413 Před 2 lety +1

      @@taronhadlames84 ohh thanks for the explanation

  • @EranHertz
    @EranHertz Před 2 lety +71

    Jake video process: 1. find a new scam. 2. make a video describing how the old scams are so bad. 3. profit.

  • @jimmydeneus7109
    @jimmydeneus7109 Před rokem +36

    These record labels are evil 💯

    • @yamato126
      @yamato126 Před rokem +1

      How when there rappers balling out there

    • @darkingdom2129
      @darkingdom2129 Před rokem +1

      Some are actually good like Rimas entertainment
      They signed Bad bunny for a contract of 80% to him and 20% to the record

  • @Palahume
    @Palahume Před rokem +18

    The music industry was jacked up bank then, but the internet made it even worse, in my opinion, because now the market is extremely saturated and it's impossibly hard to stand out from everyone else 🤦

  • @maxcohen9639
    @maxcohen9639 Před 2 lety +146

    It took 15 minutes, but I knew that eventually NFT's would be brought up. Still on that NFT grind.

    • @poiuytrewq3546
      @poiuytrewq3546 Před 2 lety +1

      nfts are a scam

    • @maxcohen9639
      @maxcohen9639 Před 2 lety +7

      @@poiuytrewq3546 well aware. Was merely remarking that Jake has to find a way to mention it in every video despite having a video about NFT's being a scam.

    • @lbks16
      @lbks16 Před 2 lety +1

      What is nft's And how does it benefit music maker?

    • @maxcohen9639
      @maxcohen9639 Před 2 lety +6

      @@lbks16 NFTs are Non Fungible Tokens and are essentially used for money laundering via cryptocurrency. As far as how it would benefit music, it could but probably will make it worse

  • @spinsterjones
    @spinsterjones Před 2 lety +486

    We really feel this. Luckily in 2022 its much easier to make it as an independent artist without record deals. But Spotify and other streaming services are still fucking us.
    If you love a local band, share the shit out of their music. It means the world to them.

    • @Realma
      @Realma Před 2 lety +19

      Completely agreed with everything you said! And yes, Spotify and other streaming services pay miserably, but it means a world to us independents to to see our music shared

    • @yourmomhello7695
      @yourmomhello7695 Před 2 lety +3

      Get a better job than playing sounds

    • @wireworks4252
      @wireworks4252 Před 2 lety +36

      @@yourmomhello7695 At least we work towards our own passion and not at the hands of bigger corporations like you do

    • @yourmomhello7695
      @yourmomhello7695 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gi7685 love my job. Music industry is for cucks

    • @spinsterjones
      @spinsterjones Před 2 lety +28

      @@yourmomhello7695 ok so dont listen to music anymore 😆

  • @charlim2479
    @charlim2479 Před rokem +6

    EVERY artist has the desire to express themselves creatively. The minute a musician signs a label the opposite happens. They become slaves to greedy companies who want to re-design everything about them. Controlled mind and body, overworked and in debt. NO artist wants to be told how to create! Independent seems the way to go.

  • @bennyscomin
    @bennyscomin Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wow, so I just spent 18 minutes I'll never get back watching a commercial for a platform that just takes the same practices to a new level

  • @DirtyDadJokes
    @DirtyDadJokes Před 2 lety +200

    I’m all for making it easier for artists to get paid fairly… but NFTs? Seriously?

    • @bebemax95
      @bebemax95 Před rokem +2

      Yes NFTs has helped quite a few independent artists. Buying music NFTs complete cuts out the middleman. An artist doesn't have to sign their lives away in a contract to post an NFT where they get direct funds from fans who buy it

  • @Loterrach
    @Loterrach Před 2 lety +271

    The music industry is a joke. Quite literally. The fact that they use the artist in order to get more money for themselves makes me wonder if the artists actually want to make music for themselves or to get money.

    • @getsmartquick
      @getsmartquick Před 2 lety +67

      They pick the weak because they manipulable hence why musicians are dysfunctional. The real artists are the ghostwriters, songwriters and others in the background. The folks in the foreground are just the face a performer performing a script

    • @Loterrach
      @Loterrach Před 2 lety +17

      @@getsmartquick That is deep, but unfortunately true.

    • @ducodarling
      @ducodarling Před 2 lety +6

      You don't have to wonder. Actions speak loudest.

    • @getsmartquick
      @getsmartquick Před 2 lety +3

      @@ducodarling What's your take on project paperclip I think it's called where the military and CIA control media

    • @iPownYouN00B
      @iPownYouN00B Před 2 lety +1

      @@getsmartquick lmao thats the post ww2 codename for getting the nazi scientists to america

  • @IDontCareTapeIt
    @IDontCareTapeIt Před rokem +4

    Wait... everyone kept calling Michael Jackson paranoid for saying he could be murdered for his 1 billion dollar Sony/ publishing catalogue?

  • @robertturner4955
    @robertturner4955 Před rokem +8

    The music industry has been a scam since long before streaming. Plenty of artists have signed similarly parasitic contracts with record labels over the years. It's undoubtedly worse now, but it's a real stretch to say that record deals used to be 'symbiotic'.

  • @greasybumpkin1661
    @greasybumpkin1661 Před 2 lety +225

    I worked in the industry up until this year.
    So first thing Jake you got something wrong or worded it wrong, which is that 360 deals did not first appear after the pandemic, as I have known about them from 2010 so they are at least a decade old, I wager they probably go back to the mid 2000s when piratebay became a thing.
    That aside, this video is great but still underestimating how much of a scam the industry is lmao. Even if you do everything independently and away from shitty contracts, your brand is still going to be locked out of the juicy algorithms that prioritise major label publishing online. The only platform that doesn't do this currently is tiktok but they have their own nefarious reasons as to why that is (CCP data mining for one).
    And I'll go further and get into a personal conspiracy theory I have. You know how when big companies buy smaller competitors out but don't liquidate and instead keep a drooling husk of a company around instead? I swear to god that the major labels do this to indie labels. I once produced for a band, and we ended up with some great masters, they looked like they were going to do VERY well, but then got signed to some local label. They asked the label to continue working with me but the label insisted on using their in house studio and locks them in with the signing. Ok, shit happens. BUT here's the thing, the label then proceeds to drag their feet at every turn, band ends up losing all its members who get demotivated and tired of waiting, and they whittle down to the singer who then has to start from scratch, and doesn't get any return calls from the label anymore.
    That's just one instance, so I didn't think anything of it, then I see it two more times. I start sharing this story with other small time industry folk, filmographers, promos etc and turns out this happens often. I think that these indie labels are bought out and meant to wear down upcoming acts to eliminate the threat of spontaneous grassroots scenes sprouting up which would force the major labels to adapt.
    Think about it, ever wonder why there hasn't been any cool new styles coming out lately? Maybe lo fi or vaporware? But beyond that, it's no way near as exciting as the 90s.

    • @vinyasa748
      @vinyasa748 Před 2 lety +37

      You need to make your own video at this point

    • @KoKo-bp5dd
      @KoKo-bp5dd Před 2 lety +9

      Amy Klobuchar: "Monopolies Are Bullies When It Comes To The Economy"

    • @deannafromdablock1994
      @deannafromdablock1994 Před 2 lety +14

      Start a channel!!!

    • @alluringbliss4165
      @alluringbliss4165 Před 2 lety +2

      @@vinyasa748 true 😁

    • @Neion8
      @Neion8 Před 2 lety +6

      Huh, interesting I just wrote a paragraph reply to confirm your comment and when quickly editing it to correct me saying 'company' instead of 'corperation' I got a returned error which deleted my comment. Imma try to retype it but leaving this here for archive.

  • @nameisamine
    @nameisamine Před 2 lety +90

    Small correction: I know this guy probably doesn’t read comments, but I work in the industry, and I found it quite comical when this video made it seem like 360 deals were a consequence of the pandemic. I’m afraid that’s factually incorrect. 360 deals have been in operation since the early 2000s and were introduced as a reactionary panic to the historic YoY losses the industry was making due to factors like piracy, changing consumer habits, and labels not being proactive about the internet age - they were asleep at the wheel and paid for it dearly. A lot of labels were going under back then, a lot of people lost their jobs, budgets got SLASHED. Even after implementing 360 deals, global music industry revenues would continue to decline every year until the mid 2010s. The mass adoption of streaming revived the music business and made labels flush with cash again. We’re actually talking about with music revenues surpassing the heights of the late 1990s in the next few years - and it’s because of streaming. Wall St has been watching, and the industry is becoming a valuable financial prospect again, especially with regard to publishing, with billions currently being spent by all sorts of capital investment firms and holdings groups willing to buy up music publishing rights to catalogues as they foresee enormous growth in the future. David Bowie’s catalog was recently sold to Warner for $250M.

    • @marteumar8429
      @marteumar8429 Před rokem +4

      But it makes 250M to who? That’s the point of this video. Bowie is dead he’s not making any money himself, someone is making that money on his expense. But unlike Bowie, living artists need to make a living, and deserve the high profit of their music is highly profitable. That’s the point.

    • @bluepillbetaorbiterkingsim1747
      @bluepillbetaorbiterkingsim1747 Před rokem +1

      I do not stream nor pay for music. only a fool does. I always get my music free

  • @waltjames407
    @waltjames407 Před rokem +13

    It's sorta depressing to know that my decision to go into music education is probably the best decision I ever made in terms of what to do with my musical skill. I probably make more money than 95% of signed artists, and my stress level is nothing compared to what it was when I was making records and playing regular gigs with a "celebrity." You make more as a nobody than you do as a star, and you get to live your life without all that chaos and drama from others. So glad I turned my back on all of that nonsense back in the day. I have yet to hear any stories that make me regret my decision to stop pursuing that stupid golden nugget that's always just out of reach.

  • @Seanpfree
    @Seanpfree Před 3 měsíci +3

    My wife works for a music publisher in Nashville. She sees the checks that come in and how/where they get split up and go to. It's disgusting how incredibly wealthy the publisher & board are and how little the creators receive. Nashville music industry and other industries like it is what's wrong with our country and I believe the reason it will ultimately fail unless drastic changes are made.

  • @awsomegirlpower476
    @awsomegirlpower476 Před 2 lety +298

    And people get mad for pirating music when these streaming services are around. 😂 This is why, and it's why it's never going to stop. If you want to support an artist, but their merch, if they're arent famous, buy their albums and/or merch and do whatever you can to support them!

    • @conformtoserveband2312
      @conformtoserveband2312 Před 2 lety +12

      @Zentosi the fast majority of labels take 100% of merch sales.

    • @its_gabs
      @its_gabs Před 2 lety +9

      The best way to support artists is going to their concerts, they are the biggest form of income for musicians

    • @DeathDeserter
      @DeathDeserter Před rokem +2

      @Kevin S Yeah, it's not bad, it's worse. Now, if you want to create and promote your music, it depends on pre-curated albums, they decide if your music reaches the audience you wish to, and if your music gets ever played/found/listened to.
      It used to be bad enough with the labels and contracts and stuff, but now it's not even that. We have seen the world change the way it consumes music, But that change brought a lot of unintended consequences. Now the music labels are in control of these bigger "streaming" platforms, They became the gatekeeper of the music you and I listen to.
      Essentially, who controls these platforms, controls the entire industry... And at the end of the day the artist got even more crushed.
      Previously you did not need to get through these platforms to release your music into the world, but now if you want the fame you essentially have to do that...

  • @scottpilgrim2
    @scottpilgrim2 Před 2 lety +279

    In my country, the Netherlands, we have a clause in private law where you can cancel private agreements, including contracts, on the basis that you are misled. Seems to me that a developed country such as USA would have developed a similar law progression. Perhaps a good idea to implement if it doesn't exist yet. Call your congressperson.. make it happen. Without art, what is life?

    • @saumitrachakravarty
      @saumitrachakravarty Před 2 lety +68

      There's a small problem. Unlike most of Europe, US is better at pretending that it's democratic than it actually is. Most congressmen will not lift a finger without their personal profit if they can help in US.

    • @scottpilgrim2
      @scottpilgrim2 Před 2 lety +8

      @@saumitrachakravarty yes yes, I get that there are reasons these provisions aren't already in place. But we have the power of the people with us. Let's make it happen boys and girls and everyone else.

    • @saumitrachakravarty
      @saumitrachakravarty Před 2 lety +10

      @@scottpilgrim2 not gonna happen under current model of free market economy

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree Před 2 lety +17

      @@scottpilgrim2 Not enough people actually care if musicians are getting scammed.

    • @spacewolf9585
      @spacewolf9585 Před 2 lety +9

      Unfortunately the state of affairs concerning the arts of all types in the US has been about supporting the corporate interests which ultimately are looking at commodifying everything about the artists they deal with. This has been going on here since the 1800’s, especially with the industrial revolution time period. And believe it when I say that there have been multiple attempts to make changes here on various issues and it seemingly has shown where the money from corporate lobbyists has kept these types of practices in place and even helped expand them. That’s why so many of us have been taking a more grassroots approach with the arts.

  • @faizaniftikhar8732
    @faizaniftikhar8732 Před rokem +2

    NOW I understand why Rihanna didn't put out any album thus far. it wasn't worth the effort. She became billionaire alone from FENTY

  • @YesMayhem7
    @YesMayhem7 Před rokem +5

    Tech jobs are just as bad. Recruiter contracts include language that they don't have to pay you at all. Things like, if the client does not approve your time... And NOT, if the client does not pay the agency. Clients only go through them because they discount your rate, but say things like..." we pay them $150.00 an hour, you get $75.00." When your getting $50. If they do pay you they can take as long as they want; 30, 60, 90 or more.

  • @briansmith3632
    @briansmith3632 Před 2 lety +51

    15:40 when I hear “we’re the only ones…” the only thing I hear is “we’re trying to make an early monopoly before the market gets too saturated”

  • @ben-was-taken
    @ben-was-taken Před 2 lety +73

    The tune fm is literally a scam

  • @charissecoal
    @charissecoal Před rokem +1

    I’ll never understand why record labels treat unique talented artists as if they are replaceable? They don’t nurture talented singers/bands for success in the long term and its kinda f weird. Like a wasted opportunity. Treat a ferrari like shit its going to break down sooner. I guess lesser talents are more thirsty and so focused on being famous that they will sign on for anything.

  • @rudygracia5573
    @rudygracia5573 Před rokem +5

    It's funny that these guys are talking about how bad the recording Industry was/is,AFTER they already enjoyed THEIR fame/heyday!!It's like saying;"Yeah,that Steak and Lobster everyday was ok,but as I look back,it really sucked...We should all be so miserable.

  • @johnathandamron3162
    @johnathandamron3162 Před 2 lety +203

    Kind of disappointed this channel made this into a giant commercial. It makes the story seem disingenuous. Just the way this guy was talking about his "startup" there were a lot of red flags that that's kind of a shady thing as well.

    • @Kobs.A
      @Kobs.A Před 2 lety +25

      Jake is boring me out, just another greedy soul

    • @davidfence6939
      @davidfence6939 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Kobs.A okay cryb

    • @meelodeshmeeelo2034
      @meelodeshmeeelo2034 Před rokem +5

      Ye, but.. personally I take the view that I’m getting good info about alot of stuff he covers whilst realising the guy needs to make an income.

  • @heihei1823
    @heihei1823 Před 2 lety +63

    Everything is a FREAKING SCAMMMM 😭

    • @emmanuelboakye1124
      @emmanuelboakye1124 Před 2 lety +5

      The air: am i a joke to you🤣🤣

    • @emmanuelboakye1124
      @emmanuelboakye1124 Před 2 lety +6

      @itsZ 4747 my bad bro.best wishes👍👍

    • @chrisrodgers4950
      @chrisrodgers4950 Před 2 lety +5

      @@emmanuelboakye1124considering the amount of glyphosate and plastic in the air yes it is a joke and part of the scam! lol

    • @obilifts3319
      @obilifts3319 Před 2 lety +1

      It's really starting concern me honestly. If everything is a scam, how is the world actually operating. There has to be legitimate operations holding the world together right?

    • @2411509igwt
      @2411509igwt Před 2 lety +1

      @@obilifts3319 Yes, there are. Mostly grey areas, though. Like business offering real services, but not quite as efficiently as they could because they don't have much competition due to over-regulation.

  • @norfolknwhey4787
    @norfolknwhey4787 Před rokem +1

    They fail to mention that 90% of “artists” do not create their own material, they are cover artists. They are spoon fed songs, and are paid to perform them. Also, no one should feel sorry for someone who makes the choice to sign a contract without knowing what is contained in it. The music industry preys on ignorance, you can’t blame them for doing so. Want to make a change? Learn how to read and understand contracts.

  • @mooncritter721
    @mooncritter721 Před rokem +1

    Screwing over artists is the end of music period! Soon there will be no music to listen to except for the past recordings. These music labels are destroying their own cash cow. Greed is the end of music. How long will it take for the music to stop? Once it does, the labels will have to change their evil ways if they want to stay in business. Fast cars and big houses vs going broke. The industry needs to crash and burn before they will change their ways. Greed is a monster and it is the death of music.

  • @hitzoneproductions7858
    @hitzoneproductions7858 Před 2 lety +40

    As a music producer, I can confirm this is all true.

  • @IrMt12
    @IrMt12 Před 2 lety +69

    360 contracts have been existing for more than 15 years. Also, you can promote your music through distributors and earn most of the revenue.
    If you're going to make an 18 minute ad, make it true and updated at least.

  • @coltonwilkie241
    @coltonwilkie241 Před rokem +3

    My man really promoting a music company while saying the industry is bad. Should've uploaded this on April 1st.

  • @Phrankster163
    @Phrankster163 Před rokem +3

    One of my oldest friends was in a band in the early 2000´s, that had a few minor hits over here in Europe and toured the continent many times over. He finally got done paying back what they owed their record company LAST YEAR! I won´t "out him" by saying what band it was, but his story is far from unusual, especially for those in bands, who aren´t credited as songwriters. We used to both dream of being musicians and even played in a few bands together, but it makes me glad that none of the bands I played in ever got signed, because the same thing could easily have happened to me too, back when I was young and naive, as many of the musicians are.

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 Před 2 lety +80

    So happy more people have been exposing the music industry lately

  • @spacewolf9585
    @spacewolf9585 Před 2 lety +16

    I have been a professional musician for the past three decades, and have been involved on many different levels of the game, from being a “hired gun”, road crew, instrument repairman and builder, solo artist, band member, and producer. This experience taught me early on that the major and even smaller labels are doing everything that they can to maximize their profits at the expense of the artists. I could drop all kinds of names regarding the people and projects that I have been involved with, but the most relevant thing to this video was my stint as the drummer for a band in 1994 that was offered a recording deal with Sub-Pop records, the advance was $300k, and when I read the contract I saw what it for what it really was and refused to sign as a band member. I was then let go from the band and the rest of the members signed while getting a string of replacement drummers until they found one that could replace me, but now those band members either still have thousands of dollars that they still owe, or are bankrupt, and I continued on as an independent, earning thousands of dollars per month, even though it it was nearly as much work as two full time jobs. Yet I felt more fulfilled with the limited amount of “fame” because I knew that the control was with the artists rather than selling our souls to line the pockets of the machine. Every artist should be wary of any “deal” that seems to be a fast track to fame and fortune.

    • @spartan114m
      @spartan114m Před 2 lety +1

      I cant believe this comment that you dropped had no response.

    • @spacewolf9585
      @spacewolf9585 Před 2 lety +1

      @@spartan114m I just re-read my rant (this video definitely was a bit of a trigger for me 😂) and realized how long winded it was, so maybe not many people were willing to read the whole thing.🤔

  • @budsak7771
    @budsak7771 Před rokem +3

    After the six minute mark when it started talking about new record deals, the one thought that instantly came to mind was John Fogerty and CCR's music.

  • @applepitz
    @applepitz Před rokem +13

    *woah... as an artist who has written over 2000 songs in my lifetime... I feel that with the amount of music in the world... the glut of profit over art... it determines me to stay true to myself... and just make music for the LOVE of making music... if the world comes along to finally notice... then I will decide how much I want to share... a record deal has always been the dream... but not worth selling my soul for it... I have created my own personal soundtrack for my life... and no dangling carrot of fame and fortune made by some label or manager is going to lure me away from my core beliefs... and who needs the world when God is there to listen to your art... when you don't chase them... they will chase you... especially if you succeed without their help...*

  • @MrJLouisS
    @MrJLouisS Před 2 lety +25

    Now I get why so many artists have such a problematic life (mainly addiction)

  • @cristiancruz9037
    @cristiancruz9037 Před 2 lety +36

    my grandpa told me at a young age everythings a scam just some scams are hidden better than others

    • @thewiseguy3529
      @thewiseguy3529 Před 2 lety +7

      That's capitalism and that's true. He was indeed correct 💯

  • @aitchbonebeats326
    @aitchbonebeats326 Před 2 lety +3

    Its sad to imagine all the artists who got exploited back in the day and there was no awareness of it in public, they get exploited today too but the times are changing. Social media, NFTs etc are changing the dynamics

  • @rustydusty3646
    @rustydusty3646 Před rokem +6

    At this point everything is a scam

  • @zeminoid
    @zeminoid Před 2 lety +8

    Well look at that, never thought I'd watch an 18 mins ad, but here I am.

  • @swanginfleet
    @swanginfleet Před 2 lety +32

    On top of the bad deals they blow the money on materialistic items that don't hold any real value.

  • @eljouser
    @eljouser Před rokem +6

    "descentralized" is another word for "scam-ready" , and you should know that

  • @JuliaShalomJordan
    @JuliaShalomJordan Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Amazing research and editing skills.🤜🏼

  • @NIAZARTIST
    @NIAZARTIST Před 2 lety +98

    To be fair artists doesn't sign record deals only for the money, also to get exposure. Artists can release music by their own, but they will never get as exposure, views or money as they would get by signing a record deal. Record labels spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing, sometime millions and that guarantees hundreds of thousands of views, likes and positive comments. Artists can buy views, likes and comments by themselves but most of the artists are broke. There are insane amount of artist performing on street and begging for money who are lot better than most of the biggest artists now, its really sad they will never get exposure or become successful unless they get a record deal. Lot of the artists making music as a hobby by spending their own money. But most of the artists are broke and miserable, something is better than nothing for them I guess.

    • @ErinCHealy
      @ErinCHealy Před 2 lety +3

      Tom MacDonald!

    • @getsmartquick
      @getsmartquick Před 2 lety +10

      Apparently the record labels that own gangsta rap music be the same people that own prisons I think it's the vanguard group

    • @stop.juststop
      @stop.juststop Před 2 lety +7

      If you haven't heard how Billboard and others keep actual independent artists out, I suggest you go to Tom McDonald's YT channel and find out how they keep independent artists down as much as they can.

    • @agirlisnoone5953
      @agirlisnoone5953 Před 2 lety

      @@stop.juststop Who even pays attention to billboard?

    • @freakdavis3241
      @freakdavis3241 Před 2 lety +3

      @@agirlisnoone5953 A fellow Many Faced God would tell you no one.

  • @Topgoslashjotroller
    @Topgoslashjotroller Před 2 lety +130

    I'm glad you are talking about this , the amount of penny pinching is wild

    • @kevtom1686
      @kevtom1686 Před 2 lety

      Seems anti zemitic

    • @DavidNwokoye
      @DavidNwokoye Před 2 lety +8

      @@kevtom1686 learn to spell and go back to Twitter

    • @kevtom1686
      @kevtom1686 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DavidNwokoye I have a speech impediment. Dont be such an athole.

    • @hairystyles4212
      @hairystyles4212 Před 2 lety +3

      yeah then he tries to shill some BS for some dude that paid him a ton for the sponsor at the end lmao

  • @ZX-zw3ge
    @ZX-zw3ge Před 2 lety +3

    I had relatives in the Hispanic music business who were big in the 90's. 5 years later, they had to move their entire catalog to a smaller, different label in order to gain more revenue. Sadly, one of them past and the other retired. They do get a little in royalties. It just suck how all these big labels take advantage of those who are barely new to this.

  • @royzderich
    @royzderich Před rokem +2

    I think these is a generalization, there are many great deals with record labels, some new record labels work based on startup incubators model and deals are fair. Why you need a company?, well you don't need one to start running your career, but you can benefit from a great team and proper terms and accelerate your career and have advantage.

    • @MissTia777
      @MissTia777 Před rokem +1

      Its Russian Roulette! You are a shill!

  • @samuellolango9720
    @samuellolango9720 Před 2 lety +19

    this is just touching the surface of the industry, it gets much darker than this.. wish jake would have touched on the life insurance scam the labels pull on the artists which can be linked to the deaths of some artists.

    • @bohlalenchabeleng1370
      @bohlalenchabeleng1370 Před rokem +1

      What?

    • @yvannayllon9877
      @yvannayllon9877 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Elaborate please??

    • @coldheartedchris256
      @coldheartedchris256 Před 3 měsíci

      @@yvannayllon9877basically when someone famous dies they get put on the news CZcams n media platforms so people check out they songs tryna see who they are which make they streams go up significantly which of course brings more and with the artist dead they can do wte they want with the unreleased music without any interference so they actually be wanting they artist to die after being under the label awhile cause it will bring more money

  • @spyduh.
    @spyduh. Před 2 lety +169

    great video but a lot of misconceptions throughout. yes bad deals do happen in the music industry but independent artists today have more access to information out there and also more leverage than ever before to avoid them.
    also if you are an artist getting real attention from labels, i.e. offers actually being sent, at this point it is extremely easy to get a lawyer on your side who won't charge you a penny in fees and in turn will take a % of your deal once negotiated.
    another misconception about the advance structure noted in this video is that your % split on royalties is what will be accounted for when recouping (example used in video was 20%). This isn't the case and the reason that you can recoup quicker at times if you have even one hit go viral. if you have traction in these negotiations you can even take less money up front for more % splits on the backend to recoup quicker and be better off long-term. worst case you don't recoup by end of your deal term, if you play your cards right you will have built a way larger audience and have leverage going into another situation or the label will have an option to bring you back for another term. there are also marketing and recording budgets separate from your advance that labels put in place that are also recoupable but are more flexible so they can be proactive and add fuel to fire when a song or release is working. labels will receive full 100% of royalties until recoupment and then at that point whatever royalty terms you negotiated you will start receiving.
    Also, 360 deals have been around way before covid. Lyor Cohen coined them during his time as a label head and funny enough he is now head of this platforms music.
    The biggest misconception imo in this video is that you need a label to get your music on all platforms. there are digital distributors that your guest just breezed past such as distrokid, tunecore, stem, unitedmasters, etc. that artists can use to get their music on all digital platforms for a very small yearly fee, or per track/upload. It is very cheap to get your music out there nowadays in actuality, the hard work is building a team around you that believes in your vision and can help you market the releases. Videos rarely cost 300k as noted in this video, if you're an aspiring musician you can find a friend, film yourself, or hire someone to shoot something for under 1k and even less lots of times to amazing creators who want to build a portfolio or build with you from the ground up.
    I think the biggest takeaway imo in this video is that it is important if you are getting major label interest as an indie artist to shop around and talk to everyone and let them offer you something and then negotiate from there. Build a team around you you trust, and you will be ok. There are a multitude of deal types today that resonate with streaming. record deals themselves are pretty rare. more in tune with the times are distribution deals that give more fair splits to the artist. Streaming is very lucrative if you can build an engaged fanbase that is the hardest part. More and more indie musicians are making 5-6 figures a month than ever before thanks to streaming alone. With so much music out there and the market being so saturated, building a brand is more important than ever. There's a reason why private equity firms are paying crazy multiples for huge older gen artists catalogues. It's because they see streaming on multiple platforms as passive income forever. Think youtube money, but multiply that by 10's of other revenue generating platforms.

    • @fbmrecords6896
      @fbmrecords6896 Před 2 lety +11

      super insightful thanks for this breadth of info good luck on your journey

    • @nbaworldwide8118
      @nbaworldwide8118 Před 2 lety +2

      woah

    • @ORDUZ1
      @ORDUZ1 Před 2 lety +3

      Completely agree. Lots of gems in this comment! Good looking fam

    • @prodbymarmelad
      @prodbymarmelad Před 2 lety

      thank you. very insightful

    • @REDKH928
      @REDKH928 Před 2 lety

      Thanks you for sharing this info.👍

  • @fd4553
    @fd4553 Před rokem +2

    A "decentralized" platformed governed by Google raises some red flags for me.

  • @footballfactory8797
    @footballfactory8797 Před 6 měsíci +2

    So basically the internet killed music and it will never be the same as long as the internet is a thing.

  • @ReginaDillard
    @ReginaDillard Před 2 lety +7

    Let’s not forget this important fact. That $500k would go a lot further if you could hire your own team of writers, producers, engineers, lawyers, promoters, etc. But the catch is, many record labels will only authorize/approve of certain professional which already have ties to the label. It’s really an inside job.

  • @jadedirk7233
    @jadedirk7233 Před 2 lety +45

    Hey dude, love the work you put into your videos. Speaking as an artist though, we get shilled every single kind of scam to garner fans and plays and shit like that basically exclusively. Hardly any of my interactions come from real fans, most are messages from people who have ulterior motives. There’s a huge black market for plays and follows and it’s become so insane that most of us have no idea what’s real and not and mostly everyone who has been making music for more than a few years has become cynical and won’t even look into any of this stuff cause it’s all so scammy. As much as i respect you and dig your videos, i have to be honest and say that this tune fm platform appears to be just another way to steal potential profits from artists. There’s no way forward, parasites are everywhere

    • @pariah2society
      @pariah2society Před rokem

      Exactlyyy thisss, and I feel you bro, I am cynical and after over a decade have given up this pointless rat race. I'd still love to perform (but selectively from now on) and write tracks therapeutically. I might even just upload tracks youtube and stop paying distribution companies a yearly pay as well at this point

  • @shaofuhai
    @shaofuhai Před rokem +2

    artists are like employees ready to be exploited by the entertainment companies
    but they can fight for their rights if they organise as a trade union

  • @KyraSimoneofficial
    @KyraSimoneofficial Před 2 lety

    This video was so depressing. We know this and it’s so hard. The ending is hopeful. I still wouldn’t give up sharing though. Thanks for the video ✨❤️

  • @OmarAlikaj
    @OmarAlikaj Před 2 lety +58

    It was also quite obvious from how the music industry keeps sweeping famous acts for new ones seasonally, even on radio. Remember how it was Linkin Park and Nu Metal in the early 2000s, then it was Lady Gaga and the likes in the late 2000s, and so on? Just to name some examples.

  • @pikachuclasico2366
    @pikachuclasico2366 Před 2 lety +23

    7:23 This whole video was a fkin AD. Jesus man be more honest at the start of the video!

    • @ahmadaburumi8982
      @ahmadaburumi8982 Před 2 lety +10

      yeah kinda ruined the whole idea of the video

    • @kazumasato917
      @kazumasato917 Před 2 lety +9

      Fr, man that ad plug threw me off. I mean he still raised pretty solid issues but plugging that ad kinda ruined it for me!

    • @Sadeeq
      @Sadeeq Před 2 lety +5

      This was what I was looking for, I don’t like that. I feel like @JakeTran has been done it a few times already but this one really got to me

    • @lain2779
      @lain2779 Před 2 lety +5

      @@kazumasato917 He also gave false information about needing a label to be on spotify, and other bad/outdated information. Its almost like he got the script from tuneFM.

  • @marteumar8429
    @marteumar8429 Před rokem +9

    That’s why I felt for Taylor Swift when Justin Bieber’s manager who didn’t like Taylor decided to buy the record that owned Taylor’s songs. The fact that other singers were defending him and the record instead of the artist trying to own her art. 🤦‍♀️

  • @Biglukenj06
    @Biglukenj06 Před 2 lety +1

    I picked up a bass about 5 months ago now. After learning how evil the music industry really is. I’d rather not risk going into unless I completely ditch labels.

  • @deepak_sharma_z
    @deepak_sharma_z Před 2 lety +14

    CZcamsrs are making insane amount of money 💰 just by explaining ... How other artists are getting ripped off by corporate world ....
    But reality is that world is not so simple...
    If you are creative and have Knowledge about how business works it's best time to be an artist

  • @theunstopablebullet
    @theunstopablebullet Před 2 lety +20

    Bandcamp has been around for a while as well, they give about 80% to artists, you can stream and it's DRM free!

  • @AP-st1ud
    @AP-st1ud Před rokem +3

    It all comes down to the deal you sign, you should expect them to throw you a standard recoupment “advance” which is where artists get swindled because they just look at the raw value of the advance instead of the terms of the recoupment with the label. Also record labels only get their “hand” on all the artists revenue streams of the artist signs a 360 deal not a distribution one. There’s hundreds of different ways to distribute your music independently. You can also make a deal where you are the owner of you masters/rights. Also the record labels only have “power” with the streaming services that are publicly traded because they’re shareholders. To finish off there’s never been a time where being “independent” was more feasible than now

  • @brianfuller757
    @brianfuller757 Před rokem +2

    The reality is that it is harder than ever for artists to actually make money. Most artists struggle.

  • @hampocampo
    @hampocampo Před 2 lety +10

    This is the longest NFT ad I have watched.

  • @SpectrumTheOriginator
    @SpectrumTheOriginator Před 2 lety +38

    That's why being an independent artist with some business sense is key. If you can blow on your own, you don't need a label. Be intentional with your marketing and you will be fine.

    • @amdiary7
      @amdiary7 Před rokem +8

      Exactly. Plus, if you fuck things up it’s your own fault, you can’t accuse someone else, BUT if you actually succeed everything will be yours.

    • @SpectrumTheOriginator
      @SpectrumTheOriginator Před rokem +1

      @@amdiary7 exactly

  • @johnwilliamalonzo3122
    @johnwilliamalonzo3122 Před rokem +1

    No wonder why I felt "strange'" into the music industry since the beginning of 2007. The artists were prevented to express their ideas anymore. And the genre change for worst!

  • @gwydionlashlee-walton7892

    Always love your videos, dude. Keep up the good work.

  • @LazyShady
    @LazyShady Před 2 lety +96

    Ah there was a time when software engineers were treated like this.

    • @anmbiosnik3694
      @anmbiosnik3694 Před 2 lety +20

      It’s still like that.. getting worse

    • @horijakkamnavlese5513
      @horijakkamnavlese5513 Před 2 lety +12

      software engineers? Really? Can you write more please? I though they are getting really well paid...

    • @zaniah8270
      @zaniah8270 Před 2 lety +3

      @@anmbiosnik3694 explain more.

    • @justiron2999
      @justiron2999 Před 2 lety +3

      @@zaniah8270 There's always someone trying to exploit you. Plenty of scummy people who see what you do as so easy a kid can do it and that they're doing you a favor by paying you pennies on the dollar.

    • @Challseus
      @Challseus Před 2 lety +6

      Im curious as well. 18 year software engineering veteran here. Wondering how the artists getting screwed parallel software engineers 🤔🤔🤔

  • @thedevilandhertrumpets4268
    @thedevilandhertrumpets4268 Před 2 lety +90

    Ah…. replace “artists” & “labels” with “truckers” and “the FMCSA” and it’s the same scam story. Those that do, produce & create getting screwed by the management & government class. Support your artists & small businesses, folks.

    • @singhmaster4
      @singhmaster4 Před 2 lety +3

      FMCSA is a corrupt organization that's is built by big truck cops to destroy the independent owners.
      If you are in the trucking industry, you know exactly what i'm talking about.

    • @aeringothyk5445
      @aeringothyk5445 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah I always thought about how much truckers actually get paid versus how much their deliveries are worth to the company they work for. I see why so many people go owner operator. It’s literally not worth working for someone else as a trucker.

    • @OutOfTheBoxThinker
      @OutOfTheBoxThinker Před rokem

      Heck, even software developers live lives of indentured servitude half the time, spending dozens of hours per week creating awesome software until they burn out and get replaced by someone else, while management reaps most of the rewards.
      The only way to reap the rewards for yourself, most of the time, is to become your own boss and start your own company. Otherwise, you're almost always getting screwed / abused by whoever is reaping the rewards of your work.

  • @kavinab6629
    @kavinab6629 Před rokem +2

    TLC are one of the best examples of how toxic the industry is. They were the best selling girl group of all time (at the time) and they were BROKE!!

  • @djresource717
    @djresource717 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Music industry is pure evil..no about any industry before Music and small print .

  • @Neeverseen
    @Neeverseen Před 2 lety +18

    lol
    So half of this video was the sponsor of it telling us how bad his competition is.

    • @Sadeeq
      @Sadeeq Před 2 lety +7

      Like why Jake

  • @vteknique
    @vteknique Před 2 lety +9

    Editorial playlists control almost all traffic which is monopolized by the streaming platform. Spotify can virtually shadow ban an artist from algorithmic and editorial playlists, killing their career.

  • @kropz3y969
    @kropz3y969 Před rokem +1

    "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S Thompson

  • @mooncritter721
    @mooncritter721 Před rokem +1

    Gene Simmons from KISS told Van Halen to lawyer up if they want to go big. He knew the companies would screw them. They lawyered up and got paid what they wanted. All bands must do this before signing anything! It is money well spent!

  • @patrickbarrett5650
    @patrickbarrett5650 Před 2 lety +17

    And the music has suffered exponentially, when I was a teen there were several new tracks every week by top artists and newcomers alike. The greedy have strangled their own cash cow as usual.

  • @CharlesFreck
    @CharlesFreck Před 2 lety +21

    7:00 yes and no. Dude is lying to build the anti-spotify hype to support his own business. He's a shitty source. Yes, you need to go through a distribution service. That's $100 non-recurring. Alternatively, you could run $50,000 worth of servers for $5000 a month to have your own streaming server. $100 is fuck all to get something permanently hosted. It'll cost you $30 a month to host a podcast and they literally get $0.00 ad revenue.

  • @Beowulf002
    @Beowulf002 Před rokem +4

    And then when artists wise up and start doing their own thing in comes RICO charges out of spite that the industry can’t exploit their talents