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“Players aren’t stupid”
*plays clip of Tedesco falling into tackle*
roosters got a free interchange and he came back on 3 mins later, yes they are not stupid.
Tedesco is careless
@@AS-ed3fz Tedesco is a woman
I was ok with most of the send off decisions. But the 10 minute send off of Burr because of his tackle on Tedesco ??? Utter BS.
Next, we will have the new ball running drill called the 'Teddy': Run, duck, win!
@@AS-ed3fz It's not even that... by the same token that you can't control every body movement, every reflex with ultimate precision, and that's why it's unreasonable to expect a tackler to never make even incidental contact with the head... Tedesco is the flip side of that.
He's absolutely not doing anything wrong, he's just pushing his body via his instincts and reflexes to maximise the attack... i guess specifically to draw the defender in, negating them when they pass. But absolutely, he is causing a lot of problems by his unconventional style... or at least by his extra exertion which causes him to fall into tackles.
And all these commentators, especially Fittler, are being disingenuous when they refuse to acknowledge Tedesco's part in it. They just say he shouldn't have to change anything, so via binary think, therefore everyone else must change. How about no... if Tedesco is not into self-preservation, it's OK for players to make incidental contact. He doesn't have to change, but nor does anyone else. It's ok to shrug the shoulders and say "oh well, stuff happens", when the inevitable penalty and/or sin-bin occurs (still rough for the tackler, but a fair trade). The calls for send-offs and suspensions are mere hysteria.
Protect Tedesco from any obvious attacks at his head... but all the ones so far this season, they've always been spun as the defenders problem. I've seen people say the Dragons winger (not a Dragons fan) was careless because he looked away at the moment of impact... and that's why he should have been sent off. Like people think that when you go in to the attacker's torso with your shoulder, your head should retract into your torso, so you can keep "eyes in front" and "not be careless". It's really enough.
who would of thought, when you increase the game speed and fatigue that tackles get sloppy?
You've just got to look at boxing and realise when their technique gets sloppy in the later rounds due to fatigue.
It's not just sloppy technique and fatigue. Noone takes into account the defender has no idea what the attacking player is going to do. I can perfectly line up a tackle, with perfect technique, perfectly lined up with the sternum, commit to it and then the attacking player slips or changes direction etc. High shots are just part of the game. Everyone saw after the first game this week how nit picky the refs were going to be and we had 2 legit sendoffs and one legit sinbin (Papalii), since in his case the player fell. But even then, none of them were intentional (maybe Ese Ese), it's not like getting rid of the cannonall where players have time to make a decision, these things can't be avoided. I agree with pretty much everything that V'Landys has done, but this is ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding about how NRL is played.
@fenix sun haha I was thinking the exact same thing this arvo
@@bigtomivan That's the major problem. It's the same in union in England at least where any head contact unless it's entirely accidental is at least a penalty. Then the refs look at numerous replays in SLOW MOTION and decide the tackler was being reckless for not readjusting to a ball carrier who changes direction or changes height a split second before contact. It's ludicrous.
@Dab Dab Goose *would have
This is what happens when we have administrators who wouldnt even know how to kick or pass a ball or even make a tackle. The Commission apprently havent even been to a training session to observe what goes on, really.
Back in the day Kevin Humphreys was the head administrator of NSWRL and that was final. He played for Balmain Tigers from 1953 - 1956. Now that is what should be promoted to the governance of the game not a bunch of University graduates who only care about numbers and contracts.
What your seeing is fruit in all industries they don’t want real administrators who have played the game or even been involved on a grass root level. They want there 2 piece suit Peter V'landys type who are cross dresser homosexual in disguise. They are an insult to the foundation of the game. Tough men play this game and that’s it. All they care about is Gambolling industry as that brings in millions.
Nrl the only sport that continues to shoot itself all the bloody time 😩
Yep no other sport or organisation in the world will even come close
Blame Freddy for babysitting Tedesco 🤣
Aus tag would be Barrett's only chance of winning anything lol.
Buuuuuurn.
You just know this is a set up for players 'falling' into tacklers....and getting them sent off for contact with the head.
*cough* *cough* James Tedesco *cough*
Papali lined him up, the Canterbury player dropped as he braced himself for the hit, what was Papali suppose to do. And Teddy drops every week, what do you want these players to do, drop to their knees?
Agreed brother
Tackle lower and aim for the body not the head, it's not that complicated
@@raymondqiu8202 I understand what your saying and Coaches should be teaching footy players that now and from a young age how to tackle around the body and put someone one the ground but Not every player can tackle like Jake Trbojevic though and players are worried that if they tackle someone low or straight around the legs the player will get a quick play the ball so there’s no advantage for good low tackles
@@raymondqiu8202 if you tackle too low the offensive player will unload to a support player Einstein
@@raymondqiu8202 if you're 6'3 tackling a player that's 5'10 and they slip you can't exactly adjust for that in a matter of a split second. There's going to be cards every game
Why can't Gus be the NRL CEO? He's the only one with brains. We need our game back. Tragic Round just killed the spirit of the game and alot of fans
Seriously. It's so stupid how many casual fans act like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Mate, if you need to see blokes getting hit in the head in order to enjoy a sport, then you should start watching a sport called boxing.
@@davesmith3289 its not that. People are upset that accidental head knocks are inevitable in a contact sport. It would be like a fight getting called off immediately in boxing for an accidental low blow or rabbit punch
@@Tylar122 I would argue that hitting someone in the head with your arm or shoulder isn't anywhere near as inevitable as you seem to think it is.
I would as point out the fact that you actually get penalised for low blows in boxing.
Because, you know, it's actually against the rules...
@@davesmith3289 but the fight isn’t immediately over and on his latest podcast Gus broke down how inevitable high contact was and how this will have a knock on effect as the current tackle was setup to stop something else within the game, rampant offloads.
The NRL is trying to pander to the mum Karens, instead of letting the fathers put Karen back in her box about their own sons.
Brilliant. It’s as bad in the UK Karen’s ruining everything
I know this is a troll comment but it's more about the fact that CTE and future cognitive decline in former players is going to become a major problem if the NRL doesn't do anything about head knocks.
@@mwhite4324 what evidence do you have that NRL players are at a major problem with head knocks ? i am not doubting but I have found no evidence on the internet.
TEDESCO IS A FLOG!
Peter trying to protect players, but insists trying to speed up the game which has caused more injuries in the space of 10 rounds then a whole season yeh nice one.
BRING BACK THE SHOULDER CHARGE!!
@REDFOX393 SMITH been there done that. Stand by what i say!!
No problem with that ,but if you miss and get them in the head 10 weeks ?
@@Mac-jx8uj Im fine with that!!
I had to laugh at blocker roach comment on fox footy ‘where are you supposed to tackle big Nelson?...Around the legs?’.absolute gold blocker lol
Even the Papenhuyzen tackle wasn’t “high”. His arms were by his waist. It was just unlucky.
His arm is at the bottom of the number on his jersey how can u call that high Papenhuyzens knees are full bent at right angles and her turns away from the tackler whos arms were just going to wrap around his back . He turned he dropped he caused it. It was an accident no intent or carelessness involved play on
Every player bends their knees when passing, faster and harder passes require more bend for weight distribution. I don't think many of the bins were deliberate except for the clothesline's, a high swinging arm should be graded worse than incidental high contact that causes concussion
@@lunch2102 I agree but if you look at this particular one he is much lower than one would expect. His knees are almost at a right angle and he actually drops lower after the ball is passed and turns with the ball passing motion to were he is almost fully backwards. If he had passed and kept his body close to the same stance he was in when the ball left his hands he wouldn't have been hit in the head at all. And i personally do not think tackles like this should be penalized as its just one of those unfortunate events that can happen. The tackler wasn't trying to hurt him and he wasn't careless in his tackling approach. And papenhuyzen certainly didnt get himself in that position intentionally either though he contributed to it the most of the 2 involved. The NRL needs to stop trying to sanitize the game so much for non fans the media complainers and mums. The game is "cleaner" than it ever has been time to calm down on being so reactionary. And remember what the fans love and what draws non fans to become fans which they have lost and only keep a lot out of team loyalty and nostalgia. The more they change it the more they lose. And there is a whole lot more to entertain right at our fingertips now so dont take away what is unique and draws people in about the game
@@ziggyhogan7560 he is low ( not as low as Teddy gets ) but I don't think he ducked into the tackle, his stance is a direct result of the pass, it's unfortunate for both parties but the fact remains, Tyrell didn't even attempt to get low and that's the problem. Like it or not, adjustment is needed.
What I hate about the Papenhuyzen one is that they based the send off and subsequent 5 week ban on the injury not on the tackle. I've seen much worse tackles than that but because the player got up it was only a penalty.
NRL has been losing fans for years, the new rules will just escalate it.
I agree go back to the rules of the 95 season but just add the video ref for tries and 4 interchanges a match unless injured by foul play and keep the touching the corner post is not out rule . Oh and make the salary cap public no player names just cash values. Yeah you could kind of work out who is getting what but so what they tell us when they sign usually anyway. So and so signed for 3 mil for 4 years so it doesnt matter to much anyway
The "golden man" tedesco is the reason for this ridiculous crackdown
Note to coaches : tell all your players to run like Tedesco..
And to stay down when they are tackled a little hard.
I think you mean crawl like Tedesco.
@@deevita7459 then walk back on field 90 seconds after going off to give your side a free interchange. When it happened last week Teddy was smiling like a Cheshire Cat.
@@ConScortis No one complained when Munster did exactly the same thing three weeks ago.
Yeah Teddy deliberately ducks into a tackle so he can be concussed and have his career shortened. Moron.
Reward copybook legs tackles by making them a dominant tackle, and therefore giving the tackler enough time to get to marker before the play the ball...ie a tackled player grassed by a legs tackle cannot play the ball until the tackler has risen to his feet and is in the marker position. Reward good technique.
Yes, been saying the same thing for the last few years.
Well said but with Tedesco sliding into Burr how can you copybook tackle a bloke whose legs aren't available to tackle?
If the boss says the games not about winning maybe the next rule change is there will be no scores kept
Everyone be getting a Daly M medal at the end of the season soon
HEAD CLASHES WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US
If you play in the mud surely you should expect to get dirty..maybe not a game for everyone as Ricky said.
100% agree with Gus and Gal.
IF they make send offs for hightackles players will start to fall into the tackle to milk a penalty in order to get an advantage.
This game isn't for everyone so Peter Vlandys who btw never has played a NRL game in his life should not be making the rules. Players and coaches should be the ones making it.
Its also based on what Fans want to see
Magic round did really feel like the beginning of the end of the tackle in Rugby League. It will come one day in the future. It's like the NRL are trying to kill it's own game.
All the media are still trying to sell the increased speed of the game. Fatigue will cause more injuries in the short and long term than anything. You have to look at the route cause. The 6 again has to go.
Gotta disagree, fatigue is good for the game to break defences and create exciting PLAY for SPECTACLE which sells for MONEY. It's a business of entertainment bottom line.
Belamy is right: Growing pains: Players need to be forced to adapt their tackling assessment and how they tackle so they can't just wildly swing at players when they're probably going to miss. The problem is the severity of injury to HEAD, THROAT, SPINE. That needs protection - more so the more physical the game gets. I mean there's a reason NFL uses so much padding as the players are so HUGE in the scrimmage. Another solution is increase pitch size increase SPACE which reduces contact/collision frequency and increases breaks/excitement and fatigue. Bulldozing is essential when players size/speed/numbers dominate the pitch eg Pacific Islanders excel in short bursts but increase pitch size and it evens out more. YMMV/IMHO.
@@commentarytalk1446 I thought about a long winded response. In short, it thats the type of play you enjoy to watch, touch footy and oztag might be for you?
@@thedudebro168 That might be true, and I see what you're saying - touch footie (though that's too grindy too and needs rule changes) but not oztag. However the argument works both ways: Want bigger hits and bigger players crunching each other via grinding forwards: NFL or Rugby Union - where the commentators spend long periods talking a story during the boring phases to keep people watching/listening. For sure some grind is good but ultimately too much is attrition and too much of that is going to be bad for bodies where F = m*a and that equation gets bigger with more physical athletes over time (stats probably back that up).
@@commentarytalk1446 don't know how you can say that the new game type brings more excitement to the game play?
Brett finch said it perfectly when commenting on the recent game between the storm and Dragons. The Dragons lost 2 players in the first 10 minutes and the game was definitely over. How does that create excitement?
All about money? Who's going to want to pay entry to the game when teams are being thrashed by 40 points week in and out and the current baring effect on the winner or loser is about how many players are on the field?
90% of all concussions in the game are occurring on the defensive players, yet even accidental contact (bouncing off the ball upward towards the chin) results in a sin bin for the defending team, who I might add, are already at a significant disadvantage due to 6 against and the rapid increase in ruck and game speed.
Players get fatigued and get sloppy due to that fatigue.. so when teams are left with as little as 11 players on the field they have to work even harder.
The argument that smaller players will result in less injuries due to fatigue is just false.. you've got running halves left with season ending injuries due to fatigue.. in fact, the opening 11 rounds has resulted in more season ending injuries in 2021 than whole seasons for the past decade.
When games are literally decided in the first fifteen minutes of the game, how long do you suppose people will continue to tune in?
Vlandys has absolutely destroyed the game. And I find your comments to be a little 'shilling'
Viewing numbers have fallen for this round compared to magic round and I'm not surprised. If this is Vlandys arrogant solution I promise you the game will no longer be the spectacle it has been in years prior.
@@thedudebro168 You conflated what I said with something else. I said to paraphrase myself: "A faster more expansive game will lead to less frequency of collisions." By that bigger size will be moderated due to fatigue (carrying more weight - you can see this in the 7's players after they switch back from Union to give an example) or else they'll have to sub off sooner. I'm not saying no to all collisions or grinding but bigger players constantly grinding into each other sheer law of numbers on "bad tackles".
I did not say anything about the current rules improving the game/spectacle. In fact as Belamy says let's hope that's "growing pains" to adjust over time to different tackling coaching (and plenty say it's stupid to change mid-season and the refs are going to go blind giving away to simulation and as you say ruin matches with such decisions). To add to that, I'd argue more expansive options. Again 10s is a part of that deal. Not saying I don't like NRL as it is now. I love it: It's the best rugby in any code (apart from International 7's World Series) on earth and imho one of the best team sports (better than Champions League Football for it's excitement and drama) imo.
What I am saying is: If you have a problem with concussion (head), crusher tackles (spine) and clothes-line (throat/neck) then if that problem is solved it's going to be 2 things:
1. Game Design - how players play
2. Rules Design - how official run the rules to coordinate players to play
Gus: “if Mums worried about little Joey coming to the NRL, stop worrying, he ain’t gonna be there. He’s not coming to the NRL.....”
Brilliant 🤣😂🤣
Reality check Mum....😄
I agree.. If they want their sons and daughters to be safe and sound, sign them up for soccer.
If they're tough, and have the skills let them play. All the best players are tough mentally and physically. That's why we love the footy!!
@@kw5732 I agree with the original sentiment. But the thing is Rugby league is DYING at an insane right hence all of this happening..
@@kw5732 soccer is the most played junior sport. I guess mums do care about their child's safety. Who would have thought.
@@Tylar122
I disagree with you however, it will start loosing if they fail to get these fundamentals right.
In my opinion the game has come leaps & bounds since the time that, that moron lawyer Gallop sat as CEO & on the fence in regard to grass roots backing. Allowing Aussie rules to get a foothold in previously Rugby League dominated areas.
@@megabites8592 Yet it's one of the least watched professional sports. Who would of thought
When the bloke running the game says it's not all about winning, you know the games got bigger problems than high tackles.
'Turning the game into oztag' shows footage of man getting coathangered.
Ricky’s a flog, and Canberra are a flop .
@@imalwaysright it was trent barret
@@MASTERxBALL He’s a flog too. Ricky made similar stupid comments.
@@imalwaysright How long have/did u play how many dally m did you win or jerseys for Australia and premierships? pretty sure ill hold their opinions in higher regard even though Barret is a dunce
@@ziggyhogan7560 Canberra were lucky to beat Baz’s bulldogs lmao
Still waiting for the play the ball with your 🦶🏻 FOOT crackdown in 2018!!
2 months later ROLL BALL AGAIN
Get rid of the 6 again. If anything is turning this game into oztag, this is it.
The irony is that this crackdown on high shots was as a result of the lack of action by the match officials in the Eels Roosters match where Drew Hutchison was maimed by Browne's knees.
That's right. All they had to do was sack the video refs
I can’t believe we are the generation that will watch the death of our beautiful game. Tough men in a tough sport being governed by hyenas.
Omg am I becoming a Phil Gould fan I wouldn't picture this in my life time.
omg......are you becoming an old man? Next thing you know you'll be an immigrant-hating-conservative who's primarily worried about the future of judeo-christian values!
@@davesmith3289 Oh, that’s real original.
@@urosasin8979 Sadly, it's not.
I think what’s unfair is that no one is putting responsibility onto the ball carrier, Tedesco noticeabley always drops into tackles to soften the impact and then people complain when he gets hit in the head every game. Gus has never been more right in n this instance
I see a couple of key points from all this. One, players are paid significant sums of money to be the elite of the game. As professionals, they need to adapt and demonstrate their skill to adapt. Secondly, if the NRL commission was truly serious about concussions, why don't they enforce players protecting their heads with headgear. Heads hitting the ground in a legal tackle or the defender being hurt by the attacking player are just as dangerous but not penalised. Why? Finally to the players. You accept a level of potential injury when you accept the money to play. Otherwise, get a safe office job. See how your life is like on 40 -50,000!
Head gear doesn’t stop the brain from moving in your head. Head gear only stops gashes.
Rugby league is fast becoming touch footy. It has been heading that way for 20 year's.
It's touch where you can just softly put someone to the ground. That's the only difference.
There is really ZERO need for big forwards or any forwards at all. Just play 13 of the fastest and players with the best fitness. You will beat everyone.
Buy all backs
Last 2mins gold well said
“Mixed response,”
*Everyone hates it*
It’s a contact sport
on tackling low does anybody remember the career ending injury to Simon Dwyer who went low on Sam Kasiano, there are alot of big bodies today the going low in a tackle can cause a serious injury
foul contact was never a problem becuase what ever was a high tackle or a crusher or dangerous was penalised and put on report unless the on field refs missed it then officials would punish the player during after the game. Only reason this happened was becuase matt cechin said check the knees and the person bunker said it was fine in the parra vs Sydney game. As well as fittler having a sook about the james tedesco incident but wouldn't say a thing if that same thing happened to someone not in top tier status tedesco ponga and papenhousen he would treat the same issue inconsistently. So there's definite favouritism going on
The players know the game they play has certain dangers a game where there's a chance you'll get hit in the head if the players willingly know of this danger then we should leave it be rugby league isn't for everybody we willingly watch UFC and Boxing with no complaints about the fighters being punched in the head why because we know that they know that they chose to do that and there are certain dangers that go with it
100% behind rubbing out the absolute howler head high tackles. Papali's shoulder to the head, Titan's one on Tigers and Papanhuyen's etc need to be scrubbed out of the game. The Tedesco tackle is a joke. Tedesco is his own worst enemy. He has a really bad habit of falling into tackles, whether it is a tactic or because he doesn't like getting tackled who knows but it's impossible to not have contact with his head if he continues to do that.
The big problem that I see is that Referees had forgotten that they had the 10min sin bin and send off. Everything was going on report and being dealt with afterwards. In doing that the team that has the penalty given to them doesn't incur a proper penalty of a loss of a player and the opposing team doesn't really gain anything either.
For the really bad hits send them off. For the minor stuff give them 10min. For the stuff like Gamble's a penalty on field is enough (if anything at all, Gamble would of barely cracked an egg on old mates chin). Burr's penalty was a joke.
Ricky Stewart nailed it ,if you want a schoolgirls pillow fight then let us know and we can recruit 17 backs ,and probably have 17 people in the stand watching it
The blatant tackles around head are a definite send off and hit the showers; but if a ball runner is falling in a tackle when the tackler is already committed to tackle, how do you officiate that?!🤷♂️🤦♂️
Theres going to be more and more Hollywood's, gone are the days of "look at the divas that play soccer" gna start creeping in and can already see it now with players staying down after getting tackled in a way they didn't like
No one likes obvious and dangerous head high tackles. Players need to adjust their tackling techniques which will take time. Make them play the ball correctly as well without defenders hanging off them or around the ruck and penalise, not this 6 to go rubbish.
100%.... Crowds, TV audience and player registrations have been going backwards in the NFL.
There has to be a trade off. Reward and encourage good tackling even if the play ball gets slowed down. I think the game is too fast now and the 6 again restarts are awful. I enjoyed it more when it was a bit slower.
The rules are already in place for head high tackles, the issue I have is the ones that players falling into them and the bunker going back 3 tackles and spending 5 minutes reviewing everything including tries. It seems to be more about the refs these days.
or 5 tackles.. like in the broncos game.
Gus, you are skilled in analysing matters. This Program is adding value to the patrons of the game.
The worst part is bringing it in halfway through the season and the inconsistencies of officiating. None of what the players are doing is new. What is new is the officiating of what constitutes as a send off or sinbin, and how quickly they come to that decision is detrimental in playing the 18th man. What is obvious is the lack of foresight from the NRL in the implementation of how to officiate clearly. Why in the middle of the season and not at the start? This game is not for everyone just like the UFC is not for everyone. It's high impact at the most elite level, stop trying to make it something it's not. Every player knows the dangers, what the NRL really want is a waiver to clear them from being sued later on down the line. Stop using the players as an excuse. Was there really a player that said "save us from ourselves" I highly doubt it, why because that player would not be playing right now if they were that afraid of the damages of high impact sport.
Never thought I would agree with Ricky Stuart, but he’s first it’s a hard tough contact game.....
The thing that annoyed me was when they started calling back whole sets of 6. I don't understand why they aren't talking about that. Like the one against the broncos on Saturday night was stupid. The penalty was minor and then manly went on to score after getting a repeat set. Similar thing happened in another game. I understand why they are enforcing the rule more, I agree with it, but in some of the instances, the penalties have been ridiculous. And now we are penalising the tackler for making contact with the head when the attacking player slips (e.g. burr and tedesco). Like the defender can't help it
Example is Jason Taumalolo knocking out Isayah Yeo,
Where was the duty of care or does it only apply to a defender and if so why???????
The definition of accident is that the action is out of the person's control, an error, a mistake. People aren't doing it on purpose, to penalise them this harshly is stupid.
'We've got a game that is not for everyone. It's as simple as that. It's a tough, brutal, contact sport' - Ricky Stuart. It can be all that, but with no contact to the head or neck. Players have to respect this rule and adjust their tackling technique. BTW it also confirms the harsh reality that women should be playing touch or Oztag,
If an attacking player accidentally hits a defender in the head with his hips, knee or other body part causing concussion or HIA he should also be sent off for dangerous running then right?,
If its the defenders fault the attacking player fell into a dangerous position and got hit in the head the reverse should be true as well......
NRL is the only professional code that changings the rules every week i would love to see how thick the rule book is haha
Still thin compared to rugby union rule book though.
You want fix anything leave it alone
Gus is right in everything he says
Gus needs to take over Nrl soon
Old people who have never taken a hit-up in their life get dementia and other onset mental illnesses. We don’t know nearly enough about the brain to link contact sports to these illnesses. However consecutive concussions can lead to these illnesses, but the new HIA rules lead to less concussions as they are taken off for small knocks before they get concussed. This is a complete overreaction in my opinion, you speed the game up leading to more tackle mistakes and blame technique and players. Look at the state of the game, at this rate RL is gonna be dead in 10 years. 🤦♂️
Gus was a former player......
I for one love how Ricky Stewart said
It's not for everyone it's a tough physical game
1) The tendency of ball runners to lower their body in order to increase weight balance upon front-on impact is something that the NRL needs to look at. Often times the tackler aims for the chest area and upon impact the ball runner will immediately lower his body to accommodate for a heavier contact and because the tackler has committed for the chest or torso, the ball runner's head is now in a position to be hit by the tackler's shoulder unintentionally. Josh Papali's case is in fact a good example of this. If you look at it carefully the ball runner lowered his body and as a result put his own head in line with Papali's shoulder.
2) Late ref calls to bring back play to a previous foul to be reviewed after the defending team have done 5 tackles on the attacking team. Broncos vs Manly game on Friday. The ref left the broncos to complete 5 tackles on Manly and after the 5th tackle the ball was kicked as usual only to bring back the game to Manly's 10 meter mark to review a tackle that now needed broncos to do 15 consecutive tackles. If the ref has to stop the game there and then, he or she should do that but to let the set be complete and then recall back for a penalty will now require the defending team to make 10 to 15 tackles more which is actually not fair to the defending team.
Trent Robinson “Calm down”... please.. you helped these rules come to play.
Blame the storm for all this garbage.
I hate hate hate the storm and hold them responsible for a lot of things they created that infected the game but how you put this at their feet is beyond me
G'day to my Neighbours Arthur & Marthur from Mount druitt 👍
We are living in KAREN WORLD !
It's a shitty plan to replace everything with KAREN MENTALITY ! ,,,,,,,Not just NRL
The irony of a boxer looking concerned at the potential brain injury through tackles seems to have escaped this panel.
Game is over its the start of the nrl being over!!!!
I think also a bit of responsibility falls on the attacking player too.
Cody walker completely and utterly milking penalties for gain, which is wrong. We do not want to turn it into soccer, but if the refs keep rewarding bit, it’s going to happen more and more.
I do agree with actual coat hangers etc, but the stats will show that tackles completed normal vs head highs would be astronomical. Doctors and lawyers, as gus said has ruined the game
Oh NRL how corrupt are thee...let me count the ways.
"Shouldn't be worried about winning"
Tells the coaches that as they get sacked.
Gal: you have to win...
QUEENSLANDER!!!
*Gal Exits*
So can someone clarify:
1. you don't want the sin bins because most are unnecessary and unavoidable accidents.
2. you want to get rid of this high dangerous contact.
3. you don't like how everything goes to the bunker and it slows down the game when they have to bring back to an incident that happened 5 min ago.
4. you admit some tackles just look bad but the player is ok, gets straight back up and pass HIA.
So let me ask you, how the hell is the ref supposed to make the correct decision with all these variables when the game is going on in real time.
It's either all or nothing. If you leave it to interpretation, someone is going to be unhappy.
Get'em gus
This rule just separates those who make good defensive decisions from the dummies of the game.
and in incidents like Tedesco falling into tackles, what about those? Have you even played footy or are you one of those dopes who play from the couch?
@@fale892 That has nothing to do with poor decision making, you just answered the question by saying Tedesco falls into a tackle which is not a poor defensive decision by an opposing player.
The crackdown is designed so the chances of incidents like fuimaono on papnehuyzen occurring are minimised.
Rugby League footy is a Violent MANS GAME......If you are SCARED of being hit in the head....... GO TO ⛪!!!! Footy AINT for you....you can't LEGISLATE tackling without DESTROYING the game..... 😔
This why they are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.......
To avoid the head been struck during a tackle they need to change the tackling technique - they need to concentrate on stopping the man and not concentrating on stopping the ball and slowing down the play the ball. And this is what the coaches are worried about - making significant changes in technique and therefor strategies.
If the tackles concentrate on the waist and legs there will be no striking the head but there will be more one on one tackles, and therefor faster play the balls, and there will be more offloads. Both of these will speed up the game requiring different strategies and probably, ultimately, players with different physiques and skill sets - and this is what the coaches are afraid of, managing change - and losing because of the changes until the teams can adjust.
Legs tackles lead to ball runners falling into the second man. It also gives tacklers less chance to protect themselves. Most legitimate HIA incidents happen to those making tackles. Not those running the ball.
@@boganbob2708 "Most legitimate HIA incidents happen to those making tackles. Not those running the ball." And how does that HIA happen? - by head clashes with they team mates and similar. You would need a complete statistical breakdown but current HIA's are caused by the current tackling
@@graemesydney38 The NRL fact sheet on head injury statistics confirms most injuries are caused from poor technique and the tackler putting their head in the wrong position. Followed by accidental clash with a team mate, then accidental clash with a ball runner. Statistics for ball runners receiving a head injury from an accident or foul play are not as high but they do get headlines, they do draw penalties, suspensions and they get replayed often in the media.
Rugby League isn't a game everyone can play. Like real life accidents will happen. By all means illegal play should be penalised but these measures are a publicity stunt. Smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that they can't address the areas where most head injuries occur. No rule change will stop a tackler from putting his head in the wrong position. The players are trained to run at the defender to cause indecision and make them back peddle. The running and ball handling techniques are designed to cross the defender up so he does get his head in a poor position. It makes them easier to bump off. A ball runner can also squat down and draw a penalty, lift his knees, stick his elbows or forearm out carrying the ball, or a shoulder charge to defend himself. When they eliminated the shoulder charge for the tackler but not the ball runner they forced defenders to square up, front on, face first leading to more head clashes. The defenders used to be able to turn side on, squat down and protect themselves with the shoulder just like a ball runner.
PS. You won't sell tickets to a contact sport if you take the contact out of it. One man legs tackles are a last resort in the adult game. Stopping offloads is a defensive responsibility and you need two players or a ball and all tackle to stop them. Legs tackles alone won't do it. Limiting players to legs/waist only tackles has never been in the rules. Unless you were a child. You can't referee a professional game in a contact sport the same way you referee an under 10's match. The duty of care is not the same. These are well paid, consenting adults who know the risks.
The AFL is rubbing its hands with glee.They going to need bigger stadiums to fit all the fans.
Couple weeks maybe months of adjustment and then it’ll be sweet. For the greater good of the game’s future (and players’ future) this will be the right move.
I hope you're right
It's about protecting the player no head contact simple but sometimes its not on purpose and bad calls are made but in the general scheme of things it's good
Players can tackle lower safely just like in union, they only don't because of off loads and the league ones getting knocked out going low usually have poor technique
Poor technique? So many variables in tackles. Lets say u do a legs tackle 50% of the time that would be about 15 a match on average and lets say 1 in 100 are bad technique thats still 3 knees to the head on average a season from big guys running hard. All you have done is lower one players risk by a small margin and increase another's by a large margin . Legs tackles have there place but are dangerous and not effective in a lot of situations . An accident cannot be completely eliminated without changing the game into something its not and that's what they're trying to do eliminated all head contact. And just like car accidents u can have air bags seat belts but the only way to stop all accidents is to never drive
id love to know the song in the intro.
to eliminate the concussion out of the game will result in changes in the game HOWEVER its not getting the concussions that is the problem, its putting players back when they are not fully symptom free - longer stand down periods and more stringent rehabilitation is the key
The game has changed into a very fast paced style, yet the NRL denies that they’ve caused all these injuries and concussion from the rule changes. How are players expected to do clean tackles at every attempt when there’s players that literally drop down into tackles? Of course it’s bound to happen, especially when there is more fatigue in the game now.
You look at other codes, like union, and you can see the difference in tackles and how people run, players tackle low and drive, and ball runners run just as hard as the league players, and even in a lower body position, head contact is not as prominent, as it is told from such a young age that players can’t run without legs. Plus tacklers aren’t injuring themselves in tackles, because they know how to properly tackle, and it’s not any softer than a game of league. I don’t get how people don’t understand how penalising any head contact is a bad thing? It’s just common sense
If you don't think the papalii one wasn't bad then you must have been hit in the head too many times yourself. Should be 10 weeks compared to Latrells 4 for his little slap
in the 90s, 00s, people got suspended for 6-8 weeks! Where did all that go?
Laterell is a grub and did that on purpose, papalii has always tackled like that and if he knew that was gonna hit him in the face he would’ve went lower.
NHL allows big hits and fights. These parts of the game are not allowed in Peewee Hockey. It isn't hard to do the same here.
NHL viewership and popularity has been falling off a cliff, it isn't hard to see the same thing happening here.
@@davesmith3289 Stanely Cup numbers had grown from 3.9 to 5.1 Mil over four years, then a pandemic hit. The comment is about smarter rule management to keep the gladiatorial nature in the game.
And the NRL wonder why they are loosing viewers when they chop and change stupid rules Ricky Stuart is absolutely right
If coaches instruct players to fall into tackles to get a penalty, they are breaching the WHS Act & potentially setting the Club up to be liable if it gets known that the coach instructed such actions.
Just have two types direct or intentional & indirect or unintentional. Direct is a send off, indirect a penalty.
Diving is now part of rugby. It ruined football now it’s ruining rugby
Attacking players that fake injury should be sin binned
Honestly: a head high tackle is a head high tackle simple. Aim for the body easy.
In Gus saying that he felt soz for Josh Papali'i being sent off, he should've been sent off back in week 1 for that horrid haircut
The other problem is players will look for any opportunity to milk a send off or sin bin and it will slowly turn into soccer where players will pretend to be hit high to change the outcome of the game. Look at Tedesco hit. He immediately looks at the ref because he knows he’ll get an advantage from it
thank you Gus and the 100% Footy team for the passage of information.
Tedesco is the king of head butting elbows for a penalty. Put head gear on everyone. How can the UFC get around concussion law suits. The mandate of the sport is to crack skull
NRL is going to be touch rugby soon by how this is going.😒
The major factor here is the rule changes. The game has become too fast every play is rushed speed off the line. In a heavenly contact sport such as rugby league high tackles injuries accidents will always happen.
If the nrl are so concerned about player safety why isn't there compulsary protection that needs to be worn "Hello"
Papalli should've always been sent off
Attacking player dropping low before taking a tackle time and time again. This rule is going to ruin the game.