Surely No Sudoku Is Ever POINTLESS?!
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Yesterday, one of the questions on the BBC quiz show, Pointless, asked contestants about variations of sudoku!! One answer that would have been pointless is Parroty Sudoku (!), a new collaboration between two of the world's most innovative setters, Michael Lefkowitz and Marty Sears.
This puzzle has everything: it's comedic, clever, artistic and fun to solve. Bravo gentlemen!
Play the puzzle at the link below:
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Rules:
Normal Sudoku rules apply. PARROTY LINES: A 'word' is a non-repeating sequence of digits, like '365', '24', or '7' (but not '747'). Each white Parroty Line consists of one or more copies of the same word. The digit on a parrot indicates the length of the word the parrot is saying. (Example: a parrot with a 3 could be saying “486 486”). Digits in a cage sum to the attached tag.
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▶ Contents Of This Video ◀
0:00 Theme music, Puzzle intro & Rules
2:30 New Snake Egg Sudoku Hunt TODAY
3:14 Sudoku On POINTLESS!
5:03 Happy Birthdays
8:45 Help Ellie's Cat
10:00 Start of Solve: Let's Get Cracking
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Hi Simon, thanks again for a wonderful feature. In case you couldn't guess, this was tremendous fun to work on with Michael, who is firmly one of my favourite constructors since he came on the scene only a few months ago.
We have been chatting quite a bit and I was delighted when he showed me his concept for a Parroty Line puzzle, and asked if I fancied helping, saying that he liked my choice of line placements in my puzzles. Lovely to get a compliment like that from someone whose skills I admire so much. I loved the simple yet original concept, and the silliness of it, and jumped at the chance.
The puzzle itself came together fairly quickly. Michael was keen to have the 1/3 parrot pair and the 2/6 parrot on the left resolved by the 6 parrot above.
I thought of the idea of the opening involving the roping happening one of two ways, depending on if the cockatiel is a 3 or a 9. Thought that was quite nice and was a natural next step which followed on well from Michael's line made of 2 letter words. The roping turned out to be pivotal all the way through the solve.
We knew that the rule itself wasn't powerful enough to populate the grid with many digits (only the digits on parrots have any meaning, the words could be anything.) So we knew we would need another clue type, and we wanted to make it thematic and silly. I thought it would be funny to reinvent what a cage meant in a sudoku, and Michael thought of adding the tags to make them basically into an arrow in fancy dress as a bird cage.
We shifted things round a bit but it wasn't long before we found a finished grid which had a pleasing solve path with lots of steps we liked, even though some of them are pretty hard to spot and there's a lot going on. When testing our puzzle we both kept forgetting some of the steps, and getting stuck on our own puzzle 😅
The most fun part was making the aesthetics. We both learnt a few new skills in order to get the artwork into this. Sudoku Maker is such a fabulous bit of software for aesthetic possibilities, it's very inspiring and exciting. I even had a very niche video call with Nordy where he explained how I could draw a half-circle in Sudoku Maker (which I needed for the arched tops of the bird cages) - a tip which he recently learned himself from gdc when he made his excellent puzzle 'Bubbles'. Thanks Nordy!
But yes mostly thanks Michael for the awesome concept and letting me help bring it to life, and to Simon for choosing to show our puzzle and enjoying its silliness in the spirit that was intended. 🦜
PS: loved the title and thumbnail. i was actually on Pointless in 2019 - and we won the jackpot by naming an obscure Christopher Lloyd film... Clue!
I really hope you two work together again because this puzzle was straight-up delightful.
This was a deeply beautiful puzzle, and reading about how the logic and artwork played off one another is fascinating. Thank you for bringing this puzzle to be, and for this lovely explanation!
This was so nifty!
Funny puzzle idea, but not a fun puzzle, for me at least. I guess it's just too much for me with all the lettering etc. Might return to it another day though, and change my mind. I did enjoy your story about how the puzzle was made, and also thanks for making me aware of Sudoku Maker. I will have to give it a go. Edit: I did enjoy the parts of the puzzle I could do, but that was just the parrots really.
Brilliant story, thanks for sharing it and for the wonderful puzzle.
Thanks for solving our puzzle! Probably the hardest I've ever worked for a pun. It was great to finally do a collab with Marty as well.
Just wonderful from both of you!! Tons of respect for how you with set!!
Hopefully, there will be more collaborations with Marty. The result here is very enjoyable. Thank you!
How many people can set this puzzle?
Well...two can!
whose a pretty boy
What's next? Wren-ban lines?
As far as I can tell (top to bottom, left to right): Cockatoo, cockatiel, red-winged parrot, estern rosella, blue-and-yellow macaw, lilian's lovebird, scarlet macaw
wow you know your stuff
Thank you for filling in the blanks. :)
I would argue for Cherry-Headed Conure for #6, which are bizarrely common in San Francisco, but it's a tough call on these graphics.
Hi Simon (and everyone else), Eddie's mum here 😺. Thank you so much for sharing his fund and on such an amazing video. Roping is always one of my favorite ways of solving which is only slightly behind colouring the entire grid.
Thank you to everyone who has supported Eddie. He's doing really well and will hopefully be out of hospital tomorrow and can watch tomorrows videos. He'll have to catch up on this one so he can see himself on the big screen.
Thank you again for sharing his story. I honestly can't believe something so awful could happen to such a sweet boy.
The most realistic part of this puzzle is the parrots who are saying four letter words
GRIT , NUTS ,
I missed a certain 5 letter parrot: Shrok!
It's strange to me that Simon is such an advocate for using center marks and corner marks to differentiate cell logic from box logic with actual numbers but then almost never uses anything but corner marks when it comes to letters...
It’s really distracting to me too.
I actually do the same thing. It just makes instinctive sense to me for some reason.
I suspect he would have just used colors were it not for the roping in the bottom of this puzzle. I probably would have used various shades of gray for the roping and colors instead of letters.
Yeah, if you use big letters for your placeholders, you can use all the known rules for pencil marks. Makes things a lot easier I would say.
I don't think he ever violated corner marking semantics, did he?
Setters deserve so much credit for their inexhaustible creativity!!!
hi, I’m Lorim! thanks so much for the birthday shoutout, what a nice surprise!! I’m so grateful for this channel, it’s such a nice community
Whenever I see the names Lefkowitz and Sears on a puzzle, I just know it’s going to be a work of art
Hundred per cent with you on this one. Normally I multitask to CtC but when I see those setter's names I turn off the work monitor and settle in for the ride lol
This was a great puzzle! This was a great puzzle!
Spoke the parrot: "Just a four."
But the parrot, sitting lonely in r9c8, spoke only that one word, as if its soul in that one word it did outpour.
The 9 in box 4 is driving me nuts.. so much logic and he won't use it! Hehe😅
It's nice that Michael and Marty gave the parrots some nice rope[ing] to rest on at the bottom of their habitat.
Yes - lorikeet us a type of parrot - and my lorikeet is listening to you solve the puzzle and commenting.... She was very excited when you said lorikeet!
That poor parrot on the bottom right, it took until 31:20 for you to notice it 😆
Unbelievably, Simon is not a birdwatcher, I guess.
It doesn't help when he uses those very dark shades of green and blue that basically obliterate anything else in the cells.
(For a long time, I was wondering why he didn't use the 4 pencil-marked in r7c8 ... then I realised that it broke box 6 ... then I realised that there were also 4s pencil marked in r7c7 and r7c9 but I just couldn't see them against an almost identical colour of cell shading...)
Every time Simon claims that a new deduction 'does absolutely diddly squat', his fair weathered friend sudoku sheds a tear :(
Never heard of a Battenburg sudoku until today, and now that i've took a look at them, they look incredibly fun.
There have been a few featured on this channel, I think one was included in the Patreon puzzle pack recently that was themed around negative constraints.
my two favorite constructors making a puzzle together?? no surprise it's innovative, beautiful, and funny!
No surprise it is surprising. 😁
This was a genuine delight to watch Simon geek out over parrots. I literally laughed out loud when he said "I wonder if I'm meant to know the names of these different types of parrots." 🤣
Simon does a fantastic parrot impression. Would probably be a lot of fun at a party!
Loved the way this puzzle bounced back and forth across different logic clues
116:20
As magnificent as you would expect from these two.
I got myself in a terrible muddle with a poor choice of colouring and finally realised I had broken the world just over an hour into the solve and had to restart from scratch. Lettering proved much easier to follow the second time around, but still had a devil of a time working through some of the cunning tricks held in this one.
This was such a joy though, that the slow time and complete blow-up never detracted on bit from the pleasure of working on this puzzle.
What a WONDERUFL idea and than also packed into such a gorgeous puzzle, really enjoyed watching the solve :)
Michael is by far my favorite Sudoku creator, I love his style!
In a puzzle with parrots and letters used for pencil marks, there was a point around the 27:30 mark where Simon was having a talk with us about the birds and the b’s.
Gave you a thumbs up but have to add an actual lol😂
Simon: There is a 9 up there, but I don't know what to do with that.
Me: Sudoku, Simon. Try doing Sudoku with that.
This is hilarious. I just discovered/started watching Pointless on CZcams in the last week. Talk about timing. The opening picture totally had me. Time to watch the solve (a few days late)
Thank you for the anniversary shoutout for my parents! And much more, on a brilliant puzzle as well! ❤
I believe I spot a Norwegian Blue parrot in the puzzle; they are known for their beautiful plumage, needing to rest after a prolonged squawk, and for pining for the fjords.
Scoured the comments for something like this and I wasn't disappointed! 🤣🤣🤣
THIS IS AN X-PARROT! (Literally at 22:40)
Someone is going to be making a Puccini Sudoku (in fairness Pucchini did write variations on a theme ). Sudoku also featured in "Winning Combination" today (I think a repeat)
My wife is generally not so interested in your videos as I am, but she's found something she can enjoy in this one, as a bird lover.
R1C2 is a cockatoo, both caged birds are probably love birds, R4C4 is a cockatiel, R5C5 is a sun conure and both birds in column 8 are macaws.
Loved your enthusiasm and joy as always Simon!! How you got a kick out of the different lines /sayings etc. Aplomb solving from you!!
48m49s. It took me way longer than I wish it had to realize that the 9 parrot meant that boxes 7, 8, and 9 had the same rows, just permuted, which was a breakthrough I needed for a long time
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but I will be donating to help this cat tomorow, after I get paid. I can't believe someone would do that to a cat, and I really hope the goal is met.
Such a stunning puzzle! Very nice smooth solve! ❤
This puzzle is absolutely visually stunning! Love it
Excellent puzzle. Loved it. 👏👏👏
I wonder what German birds whisper?
Nein?
Ein zwei Polizei?
I enjoyed this - the grid was rather cluttered though very artistic, especially the plumage. There was some lovely logic too. Witty solve message too.
Would have guessed Anti-Knight, and knew for sure Jeremy hadn’t had a career change - not sure on the rest 😂
I patiently waited for over an hour to hear Simon's parrot voice and began to think that the closest we would get was the 7 flub at 61 minutes. The solve message did not disappoint and was brilliantly performed sir! 😄
I ❤ this puzzle. We could admire a new, witty rule in Sudoku. What entertainment!
I thought we were plying Chutes and Ladders!
I finished in 119 minutes. This one was quite enjoyable. It took me some time to find that the top left bird was a naked single. From there, everything flowed very well with great logic. Cool ruleset. Great Puzzle!
I appreciate that you used your platform to help Eddie the cat. It's horrible that someone would shoot a cat with an air rifle. I was able to donate, even if it was just a small amount.
This was so much fun!
40:44 -- It wasn't actually from nowhere. Evidence shows you stumbled upon the neat little trick called sudoku that can occasionally be used in these kinds of puzzles. :p
So we, a collection of nerds,
Together solved parrots and words
And we did it with glee
In a minute and three
Still I say this is one for the birds.
And now the puzzle is pining for the fjords.
As a Man City fan I had a good laugh at the JeremyDoku answer on Pointless
Each digit must be seen alone in a box, column, or row, without a dream in its heart, without a love of its own.
"Pieces of seven, pieces of seven..."
21:00 for me. Wow, what a weird idea, but it works fantastically well. Very interesting puzzle, loved it!
“It might just say a four letter word twice” How you do say things like this without smirking Simon? :)
Seems a risky question for Pointless to ask. By the time they aired the show, there was always the possibility Puccini Sudoku and Jeremy Sudoku would have been created. I'll give it a week before each appears on LMD.
They sometimes mutter about all answers being correct as of . So it doesn't matter if the answers change before the programme is aired just as long as they got them right at the time they recorded the show.
@@DuncanBooth True.
I wasn't really being serious. It was more an attempt at pointing out the incredible creativity and imagination of the setters that are regularly featured on CtC. Heck, they probably had to check LMD on the day of recording. 😂
I can assure you that Norwegian blue is a real parrot. You don't see it often outside of Norway, because it is pining for the fjords
What a brilliant and funny puzzle.
14:08 the pencilmark should be placed on the parrot
What a great and funny puzzle!
I have been binging on Grey Parrot conversation vids - mainly Cosmo and Gizmo
Beautiful !!!!!
61:06 for me - That was a crazy puzzle, though part of me wishes they were ex-parrots.
Parrots for me are:
Parrot (papagaio)
Cockatoo (cacatua)
Cockatiel (calopsita)
[Both super cute names in English]
And the famous one from the movie Rio:
Blue arara (arara azul)
I find this puzzle very cute!! 🤗
Eddie's fundraiser is almost complete. Well done folks.
I guess the parrots are not pining for the fjords
I’ve only watched the first three seconds but am laughing out loud at the title and the graphics!
Maybe this line type could be called a "Uniqueness Line". Make it look like a thermometer of a different color and have the rules say "That the bulb of a Uniqueness Line gives how many unique digits are allowed to be on the line and repeated digits must repeat in a set pattern."
It took 32 minutes for the moment I was waiting for.
32 minutes and not one more.
I got the parrots and then got stuck. great solve Simon
Simon's scanning was in rare form today... :p
nori nori
"Jeremydoku" made me think "how about Simondoku?"
"The Norweigan Blue prefers kipping on its back. Remarkable bird, ain't it Squire? Beautiful plumage!"
❤❤❤ mental:) not too difficult once your mind gets the logic, but yes it takes some time . excellent puzzle!
I should know all these types of parrots. I see them flying around here every day! And the cockatoo should be saying a 4 letter word based on every cockatoo I’ve ever met. They’re all very naughty.
At about 31:00 you can limit U & V down to the top right two cells. Solving for possible digits for U&V you can narrow this down to a 258 triple. Seemed to be a much quicker way in from there on.
Wow, that was hard! Took me a good bit over an hour.
Parroty 😂😂😂 .. we need a two truths and a lyon
Tricky, but fun.😁😁
❤ the parroty lines grid!! 🦜
This is already cracking me up and making me smile. Joy seeing Simon's reactions as he reads the rules. 💜🩵😀
@@davidrattner9 same! 🧡💛🩵
I'm in Minute 30 and i wonder if Simon can solve the puzzle without ara's clue 😂
Okay...one minute later he found it 🙈
Crazy w/o the B1/B4 :parrot bubble there is another solution differing from the solution by 2 dominos of 47s.
18:51 Heh, there's a 1-3 PAIR-ot in row 5
59:22 - made a couple of mistakes, great puzzle
Can we identify all the parrots? I think R1C2 is a Sulphur Crested Cockatoo and R4C4 is a Cockatiel.
R5C8 Blue and Yellow Macaw?
I know it's artistic but sometimes i wish there were a plain version with more standard markings available -- especially in one like this where i used coloring to solve and the art made it harder to visualize everything because it covered things up. I think otherwise I would have liked this puzzle more
Not super easy, but solvable. Coloring definitely helped me with the solve, as did (possible spoiler, but not really...) having the 9 cell parrot which led me to use the letter tool. The opening is very easy, imo, but then you get to a point where you know a lot, but I became stuck. Took me a while to find the logic to proceed, but once I did, it flowed nicely again. Now to watch you have some fun. :)
I saw the roping, but because I used lettering for the long parrot clue instead of coloring the ropes, I missed out on the roping color (blue in the video) for box 5 which probably would have cut my 90 minute solve time in half (or at least knocked 15 to 20 minutes off). My coloring was done just for the lower left parrot and the upper right parrot. Also, because of not seeing the roping clue, I had to use the upper left parrot a bit more than you did as it forced a few options out of column 4 lower down due to my having known of the set of digits at that point in my solve. Still cool to see I saw most of the intended logic. Thanks for the video!
@@martysears Sorry for the confusion, but my name isn't Jay. I've had this username since the 90s, but only recently have I been having to correct this slight confusion. I'm nowhere near the genius. I do enjoy logic problems and solving these, and while I have set a few, none have been featured (probably due to the lower quality setting). In fact, I've been struggling with his latest and only just found the break through and it is still slow going for me at almost 90 minutes. Admittedly I didn't appreciate his break in until almost 60 minutes into the solve, so maybe 30 minutes of productive solving isn't too bad, but I've yet to put a single digit in the puzzle.
Spoiler for Jay's puzzle ahead. -- Just have a bunch of the cage sums noted as being either A, B, C, or D after realizing his puzzle hinges on noting the four sets of 1-9 with 34 cells and no repeat digits in each set meaning that 2 digits go unused from the total of the four sets, but which two, and from which one or two sets I've yet to determine. Back to it.
Thanks again for the kind words on this puzzle and sorry for the confusion.
40:01 for me. Read the rules and thought it was to be easier than it is
This one turned out to be fairly approachable if you don't overthink it. I know that goes against everything that Simon believes in, but there it is.
44:15 was saying to the screen that 3 is not blue!!!!!
Awesome vids btw!!!
49:15 Do Sudoku, Simon !!!!
I feel 2 new sudoku variants incoming soon…
Why didn't he pencil mark A in box 1? You know it's limited to 2 cells since 19:11
So the bird from The Raven was actually a 9-parrot, only that its word could contain repeated digits/letters?
No, the 9-parrot's word can't contain any repeated letters
I'm not 1 of the 100, but i did get anti-knight and miracle.
Why the parrot at 31:55 could not be a 2? Didn't finish the video but was wondering how he got the 4
If it was a 2 there would be a digit repeated in row 9 :)
I assume that blue parrot is a Norwegian blue.
Beautiful plumage.
It is an X parrot! (see 22:40)
It took me 2 hours 20 minutes!!
JeremyDoku 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Shrock.