There is nothing on the Road like a 9000!! - I have a 97 9000aero - Love it - The Space you speak about alone is wonderful. I have carried stoves, washing machines, and dryers in that car... oh yeah Hatch Closed. The Pick and handling.. I have and (GM)07 9-5.. Its nice .. Ive had ZERO issues with both cars in the winter weather.. but I do prefer the 9000 as an over all car -
I have a c900 and used to be a classic SAAB purist, but for a practical family + hauling car I'd trade my 900 for a 9-5 wagon in a heartbeat. Unfortunately they're pretty rare around here, so I may end up settling for an XC70 or an Outback.
We have both a '97 9000 Aero and a '02 9-5 Aero Estate. For family trips the 9-5 is used as the trunk can contain more luggage in height. The Mrs. uses it as a daily driver. I use the 9000. I really like the 9-5 but I love the 9000. Better seats and better dash and a more solid feel. So by all means buy a 9-5 but keep the 9000.
I own both a 2005 9-5 VectorSport 2.0t with a manual transmission and two A50 9000 2.3 FPT manual transmissions. I use the 9-5 as a daily because I find it to "feel" safer due to the great ESP system. Norwegian winters can be brutal, and I just need something I can trust to start in any weather and drive no matter what the conditions are. That said, I do find the 9000 to feel more reliable. I just trust the mechanics and electronics more in those cars. Even though my 9-5 has been fairly trouble free the last 115.000km I've put on it. Just passed 306.000km and still going strong. If you are considering a 9-5, I would get the 2004 - 2005 with an manual transmission and try avoiding the Xenon models. I say 2004 - 2005 because this has the better engine with less issues overall. Also the 2.0t is a more reliable engine than the 2.3t as the 2.3 is famus for exploding pistons even when running stock tunes. The 2.0 with a Stage 1 tune is fantastic with low fuel consumption. Change the oil every 10k or every year, and it is pretty much bulletproof. Bottom line, If I HAD to sell my 9000's or my 9-5, I would probably sell the 9-5. I don't know, the 9000 just feels better. It gives more joy overall. And it feels "retro" in a way. Good luck! :)
The last ”classic SAAB” in my mind is the OG900. The 9000 was (as you allready know I’m sure) a joint venture platform with FIAT (Croma), Alfa Romeo (164) and Lancia (Thema). Does not in any way make the 9000 a lesser car, it’s a great car. But it is (to me, and this is a matter of taste) not any more a ”classic” SAAB than the GM NG900 or the 9-5. BUT, they’re still all SAAB’s. So if I was looking for (specifically) a SAAB for work and carrying a LOT of stuff around, I’d go with a late model OG9-5 combi in good condition. There’s lots of them, they’re ”cheap” for the comfort, equipment and safety they offer and I doubt you’d have any problem finding any parts you might need down the road in the scrapyards, at least for the next 10 years or so. And they still have quite a bit of the SAAB spirituell and soul. Save the 9000 and use it for fun.
Yeah it's always been the same for me that the OG900 is what I would class as a Classic Saab - as we speak my 900 Turbo convertible is nicely tucked away for the winter - but the 9000 as been fantastic for the second winter I've used it - would ideally love to use a regular 900 hatchback as a winter care but the winter salt would kill it quick
I have a '91 SPG, a '94 9000, a '97 9000 and an '04 9-5 wagon. All manuals. I think all are great in different ways. The 9-5 wagon is reliable, tons of space, very fast, and comfortable. The 9000's are amazing future classics but are more modern than a 900. And then of course, the 900. Need I say more. I don't think any are better. Just different types of awesome.
OG 9-5 and 9-3 are last true Saabs if you ask my opinion. They at least have Saab engines even the chassis are from GM and gearbox, also some little things. Saab have still spent time and money to improve these cars.
I inherited a 2002 Saab 95 Aero. I always liked the look of the cars and the acceleration is great compared to my simpler non-turbo Saabs. After living with it for a few months, I feel that the build quality is not as great as the older Saabs. I have lost a bit of confidence in it as a "great" car. I realized that it has a lot of very expensive issues. One issue which I have known about for a long time is that the transmission bangs into drive from reverse. I found online that this is not necessarily uncommon. For the longest time my mother drove it like this since it was just too expensive to repair. I recently brought it in for an oil change to discover that---here's the list--it needs a right front wheel bearing, all around new brakes including calipers, a new muffler system, and a repair for oil leaks. I opted to get the brakes done only since the cost for everything was too much at this time. After driving it a bit more during a cold snap, i realized that the heat is little to non-existent. Plus I discovered there is a popping noise in the front left steering when I have to make a sharp turn. The car only has 164,000 miles on it which is pretty low for a car it's age. I partly brought it in for service to get winter tires on it. I think now I will garage it more than drive it this season since I am worried about something going wrong. Well, something did a week ago when the chrome muffler tip fell off in traffic! So, get the car thoroughly inspected if you decide to buy one.
Good to know - I've put my 9000 through the paces this year - regular -18 degree driving in ice and snow , pulling a few tons in a trailer - ive had no issues except general maintenance
I currently own a 9-5 wagon and did own a 9000 until it was murdered by a deer. I could take the rear seats completely out of the 9000 in about 20 minutes and had more room than a small pick-up truck. I can't get close to that in the 9-5 even though I can remove the seat cushions from the 9-5 but not the seat backs.
Yes indeed! The cargo capacity of the 9000 is quite amazing. That and the build quality compared to the 'newer' Saabs make it a clear winner in the comparison.
@@tompettersson3814 The big difference in classic 900's is that the seats fold flat! We had a '93 900s hatchback which my mother bought used in the late 90's. When my brother went to school in Boston, we were all blown away when he fit a large screen tv and closed the hatch! Keep in mind that large screen tvs were bulky back then. We definitely did not need a van or pickup truck!
Go for it! They are excellent cars for the money!
There is nothing on the Road like a 9000!! - I have a 97 9000aero - Love it - The Space you speak about alone is wonderful. I have carried stoves, washing machines, and dryers in that car... oh yeah Hatch Closed. The Pick and handling.. I have and (GM)07 9-5.. Its nice .. Ive had ZERO issues with both cars in the winter weather.. but I do prefer the 9000 as an over all car -
Early production 9-5's are famous for their build quality. Go for it! And adjust your headrest!
I have a c900 and used to be a classic SAAB purist, but for a practical family + hauling car I'd trade my 900 for a 9-5 wagon in a heartbeat. Unfortunately they're pretty rare around here, so I may end up settling for an XC70 or an Outback.
We have both a '97 9000 Aero and a '02 9-5 Aero Estate. For family trips the 9-5 is used as the trunk can contain more luggage in height. The Mrs. uses it as a daily driver. I use the 9000. I really like the 9-5 but I love the 9000. Better seats and better dash and a more solid feel. So by all means buy a 9-5 but keep the 9000.
Exactly what I plan to do now! Thanks
I own both a 2005 9-5 VectorSport 2.0t with a manual transmission and two A50 9000 2.3 FPT manual transmissions. I use the 9-5 as a daily because I find it to "feel" safer due to the great ESP system. Norwegian winters can be brutal, and I just need something I can trust to start in any weather and drive no matter what the conditions are. That said, I do find the 9000 to feel more reliable. I just trust the mechanics and electronics more in those cars. Even though my 9-5 has been fairly trouble free the last 115.000km I've put on it. Just passed 306.000km and still going strong. If you are considering a 9-5, I would get the 2004 - 2005 with an manual transmission and try avoiding the Xenon models. I say 2004 - 2005 because this has the better engine with less issues overall. Also the 2.0t is a more reliable engine than the 2.3t as the 2.3 is famus for exploding pistons even when running stock tunes. The 2.0 with a Stage 1 tune is fantastic with low fuel consumption. Change the oil every 10k or every year, and it is pretty much bulletproof.
Bottom line, If I HAD to sell my 9000's or my 9-5, I would probably sell the 9-5. I don't know, the 9000 just feels better. It gives more joy overall. And it feels "retro" in a way.
Good luck! :)
thanks for the advice turboNerd! good to get people's experiences , I think next winter I will pick up a 9-5 wagon
The last ”classic SAAB” in my mind is the OG900. The 9000 was (as you allready know I’m sure) a joint venture platform with FIAT (Croma), Alfa Romeo (164) and Lancia (Thema). Does not in any way make the 9000 a lesser car, it’s a great car. But it is (to me, and this is a matter of taste) not any more a ”classic” SAAB than the GM NG900 or the 9-5. BUT, they’re still all SAAB’s. So if I was looking for (specifically) a SAAB for work and carrying a LOT of stuff around, I’d go with a late model OG9-5 combi in good condition. There’s lots of them, they’re ”cheap” for the comfort, equipment and safety they offer and I doubt you’d have any problem finding any parts you might need down the road in the scrapyards, at least for the next 10 years or so. And they still have quite a bit of the SAAB spirituell and soul. Save the 9000 and use it for fun.
I should probably mention that I’ve owned one or more of every one of them. Each and every model SAAB from the 99 to the OG9-5.
Yeah it's always been the same for me that the OG900 is what I would class as a Classic Saab - as we speak my 900 Turbo convertible is nicely tucked away for the winter - but the 9000 as been fantastic for the second winter I've used it - would ideally love to use a regular 900 hatchback as a winter care but the winter salt would kill it quick
I have a '91 SPG, a '94 9000, a '97 9000 and an '04 9-5 wagon. All manuals. I think all are great in different ways. The 9-5 wagon is reliable, tons of space, very fast, and comfortable. The 9000's are amazing future classics but are more modern than a 900. And then of course, the 900. Need I say more.
I don't think any are better. Just different types of awesome.
OG 9-5 and 9-3 are last true Saabs if you ask my opinion. They at least have Saab engines even the chassis are from GM and gearbox, also some little things. Saab have still spent time and money to improve these cars.
I inherited a 2002 Saab 95 Aero. I always liked the look of the cars and the acceleration is great compared to my simpler non-turbo Saabs. After living with it for a few months, I feel that the build quality is not as great as the older Saabs. I have lost a bit of confidence in it as a "great" car. I realized that it has a lot of very expensive issues. One issue which I have known about for a long time is that the transmission bangs into drive from reverse. I found online that this is not necessarily uncommon. For the longest time my mother drove it like this since it was just too expensive to repair. I recently brought it in for an oil change to discover that---here's the list--it needs a right front wheel bearing, all around new brakes including calipers, a new muffler system, and a repair for oil leaks. I opted to get the brakes done only since the cost for everything was too much at this time. After driving it a bit more during a cold snap, i realized that the heat is little to non-existent. Plus I discovered there is a popping noise in the front left steering when I have to make a sharp turn. The car only has 164,000 miles on it which is pretty low for a car it's age. I partly brought it in for service to get winter tires on it. I think now I will garage it more than drive it this season since I am worried about something going wrong. Well, something did a week ago when the chrome muffler tip fell off in traffic! So, get the car thoroughly inspected if you decide to buy one.
Good to know - I've put my 9000 through the paces this year - regular -18 degree driving in ice and snow , pulling a few tons in a trailer - ive had no issues except general maintenance
I currently own a 9-5 wagon and did own a 9000 until it was murdered by a deer. I could take the rear seats completely out of the 9000 in about 20 minutes and had more room than a small pick-up truck. I can't get close to that in the 9-5 even though I can remove the seat cushions from the 9-5 but not the seat backs.
Wow ! Didn't think of removing the seats as well - that would certainly help me with my hauling ! Need to look into that ! Thanks for the tip !
Love my ng saab
You can fit more stuff in a 9000 than in a 9-5 combi. I have even managed to haul bigger items in my og900cc than in the 9-5 combi.
Interesting- the specs say there's more luggage capacity in a 9-5 estate but it's good to know how it is real-world
@@theclassicsaabguy236 the 9000 is wider ☺ even the classic 900 is wider between the wheelwells.
Yes indeed! The cargo capacity of the 9000 is quite amazing. That and the build quality compared to the 'newer' Saabs make it a clear winner in the comparison.
@@tompettersson3814 The big difference in classic 900's is that the seats fold flat! We had a '93 900s hatchback which my mother bought used in the late 90's. When my brother went to school in Boston, we were all blown away when he fit a large screen tv and closed the hatch! Keep in mind that large screen tvs were bulky back then. We definitely did not need a van or pickup truck!
@@pbutter237 yup, my '92 900S was a veritable pickup truck when I needed it
It’s not built like a 900c. But I love my 95 Swedish Meatball. It’s practical.
I just got my first 9-5 wagon 2006 Vector. I also have 3x 9000's. I think the 9-5 is a bit better winter car
One plus is that the car has a traction control system. The 9000's? Was that an option?
Even though it's not a "true" Saab, I think the 9-5 is one of the most beautiful cars ever made. I say do it.
Can you do a video about the 95 TrollR
Stop telling about saab as a winter car if you never have truly driven it at winter
Well clearly in this video I'm driving a Saab in winter 🥶
Im sick of this saab fetish!
STOP WATCHING !