What Happened to the FA Cup?

SdĂ­let
VloĆŸit
  • čas pƙidĂĄn 6. 09. 2024
  • What happened to the 'magic' of the FA Cup?
    Subscribe: bit.ly/TifoSubs... | 🔔Make sure to enable all push notifications!🔔
    Watch the most recent videos: ‱ Most Recent Videos | T...
    Today, the FA Cup is no longer revered like it once was. Contrary to many fans’ beliefs, it was not the BBC’s over- usage of the phrase ‘magic of the Cup’ which actually killed the magic, but something much simpler.
    Club rationality and business-like thinking killed the lofty reputation of the cup, as many realised that the competition acted as little more than a distraction from the serious business.
    Follow Tifo Football:
    Website: tifofootball.com
    Twitter: / tifofootball_
    Facebook: / tifofootball
    Instagram: / tifofootball_
    Join Tifo Football, for extra perks, by following this link:
    / @tifo
    Listen to the Tifo Football podcast:
    iTunes: bit.ly/TifoFootPod
    SoundCloud: / tifo-football-podcast
    Subscribe to Tifo Basketball at bit.ly/TifoBask...
    Watch more Tifo Football:
    Tactics Explained: ‱ Tactics Explained | Ti...
    Finances & Laws: ‱ Finances & Laws | Tifo...
    Tifo Football Podcast: ‱ Tifo Football Podcast
    Most Recent Videos: ‱ Most Recent Videos | T...
    Popular Videos: ‱ Popular Videos | Tifo ...
    Produced by Tifo Studios: Taking an illustrated look into the beautiful game.
    Music sourced from epidemicsound.com
    About Tifo Football:
    Informative, illustrated football analysis. Home of WhiteboardFootballÂź.
    Tifo loves football. We know there’s an appetite for thoughtful, intelligent content, for stuff that makes the complicated simple.
    Our illustrated and live action CZcams videos address all aspects of the game, including tactics, history, and the business of football.
    We provide analysis on the Premier League, Champions League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, World Cup and more.
    Our podcasts interview some of the game’s leading figures. And our editorial covers football with depth and insight.
    Tifo Football used to be uMAXit Football - we changed our name in November 2017 to better articulate who we are and what matters to us: making football accessible to its fans through story-telling and the expertise and insight of our team of writers and producers.
    Tifo was nominated by the Football Supporters’ Federation for the ‘Best Online Media’ Award in 2017 and 2018.
    We also make bespoke videos.
    #facup #premierleague #sky

Komentáƙe • 994

  • @thefacup
    @thefacup Pƙed 5 lety +3771

    👀

  • @blockscycfc
    @blockscycfc Pƙed 5 lety +1881

    For clubs like mine (york), non league teams and lower non league teams. The FA Cup is huge. It’s just bigger teams who don’t consider it a big competition anymore

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so Pƙed 5 lety +37

      GEORGE YCFC Yea there’s always a chance a big upset can happen, because maybe the larger clubs want to rest players or to give bench players a start

    • @andyb8349
      @andyb8349 Pƙed 5 lety +54

      Man City could win the FA Cup without playing agains a single team from the top 10 of the Premier league has that ever happened before ?

    • @fremmer007
      @fremmer007 Pƙed 5 lety +28

      Which is sad, because they still win the cups. Even when they play their subs..

    • @notdaveschannel9843
      @notdaveschannel9843 Pƙed 5 lety +76

      @George YCFC Definitely true. It's big for the fans 'cos of the whole romance of the thing but it's also a lottery where that club can transform their finances. Draw a Prem team away and they're getting 45% of a big pot of money. Even if they're playing a non-Prem team they might be on TV.
      Warrington town made it to the 2nd round in 14/15 and both games were televised (Exeter on the BBC and Gateshead on BT). That earned them the equivalent of 70% of their total revenue for the previous season. That can mean survival for club.

    • @mohammedelmi7321
      @mohammedelmi7321 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      For the past 30 years, 30-32 winners of the FA Cup has been premier league teams, where 30 of them were the elite. Don't get that argument that top teams don't care.

  • @Sam-gf6ue
    @Sam-gf6ue Pƙed 5 lety +905

    The 50/50 ticket revenue split is huge for smaller clubs.

    • @Sam-gf6ue
      @Sam-gf6ue Pƙed 5 lety +37

      @Wilfred "I Tapped Dat Ass" Kensington oh really? That's amazing

    • @PlayupskybIues
      @PlayupskybIues Pƙed 5 lety +13

      It's still big for small clubs, but the TV revenue rights for big teams just isnt as important anymore hence you see weaker teams fielded by premier league sides which then makes the wins for smaller sides less special

    • @holdthisoak5767
      @holdthisoak5767 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Wilfred "I Tapped Dat Ass" Kensington stfu. Pussi ass virgin

    • @Jayzuh
      @Jayzuh Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Wilfred "I Tapped Dat Ass" Kensington ‘a disgrace’ mate you’re the disgrace

  • @bdrummond7102
    @bdrummond7102 Pƙed 5 lety +639

    Arsenal fan here - we still feel the magic.
    Granted, it's been our only magic for over a decade.

    • @kaissersreich
      @kaissersreich Pƙed 4 lety +42

      And we still feel the magic yesterday

    • @Travisbig7
      @Travisbig7 Pƙed 4 lety +19

      Number 14!! Coyg 🔮âšȘ

    • @arnavlama1158
      @arnavlama1158 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      @@Travisbig7 Anthony Taylor motm

    • @Travisbig7
      @Travisbig7 Pƙed 4 lety +14

      @@arnavlama1158 lol too much salt isn't good for you bro

    • @arnavlama1158
      @arnavlama1158 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@Travisbig7 that was never a red and they didn't even looked once at martinez's handball

  • @randomshotz13
    @randomshotz13 Pƙed 5 lety +611

    "Blaming it on the Premier league would be over simplistic"
    ...
    "[it was] due to one man's decision to invest in football over pornography"

    • @Slackboy72
      @Slackboy72 Pƙed 4 lety +37

      I'd like to hear more about this "pornography" business.

    • @Evemeister12
      @Evemeister12 Pƙed 4 lety +23

      Imagine how amazing the world of porn would've been if football didn't get in the way.

    • @joshuathomas2012
      @joshuathomas2012 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @FlamePhoenix 😂😂😂

    • @Rasmus_77
      @Rasmus_77 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Westbourne Park fuck pornography who cares it’s pointless you can get brainwashed

    • @gspvideo5543
      @gspvideo5543 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      Martin Tyler "next up it's Debbie Does Dallas.... ANNNDD IT'S LIIIVVEE"

  • @romiarkan450
    @romiarkan450 Pƙed 5 lety +657

    They should hold the semifinals outside of Wembley again. Each team's journey to be able to play for the FA Cup at Wembley is part of the magic.

    • @tins5650
      @tins5650 Pƙed 5 lety +12

      Exactly

    • @paapo.
      @paapo. Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Brilliant ideas

    • @arun840
      @arun840 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      It’s a good idea but then teams like Wigan and Portsmouth would be in the UCL

    • @alistairwall5470
      @alistairwall5470 Pƙed 5 lety +34

      Arun You replied to the wrong comment mate

    • @Nuttybott
      @Nuttybott Pƙed 5 lety +11

      They knocked Wembley down about 15 years ago...that thing they put in its place hasn't the same magic feel or atmosphere, and never will have it...

  • @jhawk889
    @jhawk889 Pƙed 5 lety +99

    The magic of the cup still lives on, just in smaller teams. AFC Wimbledon flirted with relegation all year but the fans were in love with their run to the Fifth Round Proper. It's those moments that make the FA Cup beautiful

  • @majindevon
    @majindevon Pƙed 5 lety +98

    Wenger is right. Any domestic cup is an indication of roster strength and player endurance. Easily an important cup.

  • @lofcmatt
    @lofcmatt Pƙed 5 lety +261

    You didn’t mention Manchester United not entering in 2000 - that was a huge blow.

  • @johnpannebaker5757
    @johnpannebaker5757 Pƙed 5 lety +38

    One thing you missed: Too many Cup competitions. If it was just the league and the FA Cup, I believe that would make a major difference

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Yeah, there are also the EFL Cup for the top 4 divisions, EFL Trophy for the League One and League Two, FA Trophy for all 4 divisions under League Two and FA Vase for divisons 9-11, other than the FA Cup.

    • @Hartwik
      @Hartwik Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      Thats just an excuse. Other countries have 2 league cups plus the national cup. The real reason for the FA Cup losing its magic is it gives less money than champions league and the premier league. Another reason is the premier league and champions league have just grown so much financially and culturally that the FA Cup has become second fiddle. In countries where the national cup have larger cash prizes and is advertised well , the national cup is seen as equal to the league title in prestige

  • @JakePetrolhead
    @JakePetrolhead Pƙed 5 lety +484

    I'd counter this by saying that the Magic of the FA Cup is still there - if not at the elite level.
    The prize money from the FA cup is massive for clubs in Non-League, and a good cup run has a certain allure to fans of clubs lower down the pyramid.
    For example, my club, Winchester City, went on a cup run to the Fourth Qualifying Round, our best since the 1950's. On top of that, we had a huge away day to Torquay United, which is perhaps the finest day I've ever had at a sporting event.
    So whilst the big boys in the Premier League discount the competition, the magic of the FA Cup can still be found in Non-League.
    It's easy to forget just how much football takes place below the Premier League.

    • @aotc7327
      @aotc7327 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Jakepetrolhead well said

    • @SonicSP
      @SonicSP Pƙed 5 lety +6

      In other words, nobody cares.

    • @seventeenseconds1698
      @seventeenseconds1698 Pƙed 5 lety +30

      SonicSP
      You’re a nail.

    • @tombaker6753
      @tombaker6753 Pƙed 5 lety +53

      Agreee. My local team (Stourbridge fc) in the 7th tier of England made it to the 2nd round twice and the 3rd round, beating league 1 and 2 teams on the way. The hype of the town and the money generated was immense! The fa cup is EVERYTHING for lower non league clubs.

    • @fremmer007
      @fremmer007 Pƙed 5 lety

      I love this comment.

  • @AshPaddyM
    @AshPaddyM Pƙed 5 lety +43

    It felt bloody amazing when Arsenal won it after that 10 year trophy drought. I can't remember the last time I felt such joy being an Arsenal fan lol.

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      Lol same with united in 2016 after a 12 year drought I'll never forget that semi final where David De Gea saved a penalty from Lukaku and then Martial ran the field and scored in the 88th minute to send us into the final and the final was an example of a game that should have been easy for us to win but we made it a lot harder on ourselves after conceding the first goal eventually Mata got the equaliser I can't remember what minute but it was a too close for comfort then watching Jesse Lingard score the winner in extra time to finally see my team lift the fa cup I was 5 the last time they had won it previous now alls left is champions league yes I know I was 9 in 08 but I was not allowed to stay up to watch the extra time of course knowing my luck I was allowed to watch the entire of 2009,2011 champions league finals but yea and dont even get me starred on the QPR disaster

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@sodaking6858 Wasn't that the last pen De Gea has saved to date? Cause I was thinking about it during the UEL final shootout

  • @ivaneurope
    @ivaneurope Pƙed 5 lety +41

    Also another key factor killed the interest in not only the FA cup, but the domestic cups in general - the Champions League. Since 1992, when the genesis of UCL began, the competition expanded to include non-champions from the top leagues in Europe. This in fact killed the second most important competition - the domestic cup winners qualified for the UEFA Cup Winners Cup, the competition for the domestic cup winners, but the ever growing expansion of the Champions League meant that domestic cup winners entered UCL instead by finishing 2nd or 3rd in their domestic league. By 1999 the CWC was just a shadow of its former glory and although it was still considered the second most important European club competition, UEFA decided to kill it, merging it with the UEFA Cup.
    The thing is not many teams see the domestic cup win for anything important even if the winner had torrid season in the league and/or in Europe. For a team like Barcelona the Copa del Rey is just another trophy won by them as La Liga and Champions League are more important for them. Now the FA Cup final between Manchester City and Watford is a final in which both teams will want to win. City, who failed to reach further than 1/4 Final in the UCL, can win the domestic treble having wraped up the Premier League and EFL Cup. Watford failed to finish 7th in the PL and will want to win the FA Cup as it guarantees Europa League matches.

    • @rolandtheheadlesstho
      @rolandtheheadlesstho Pƙed 5 lety +11

      Yes, the UCL killed the other European tournaments. We were better off with the classic European Cup, UEFA-Cup for place 2 to 4 and CWC. It's just about the money at the end of the day

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      You think that's why Watford want to win the fa cup nah man they really want to win it because they have never won a top fight trophy before the fa cup is close to 150 years old and Watford have never won it

  • @Kanfachan
    @Kanfachan Pƙed 5 lety +62

    My suggestions of returning the FA Cup to prominence:
    1. Single out the cup final to have it's own special day (Already being done). And treat it in a similar fashion to the way the yanks do with the Super Bowl. By that I mean, sell the rights to commercial slots. This would immediately eliminate the BBC as a sponsors.
    2. Only host the final at Wembley. The semi's should be held at neutral grounds across the country...the way it used to be done. This will go someway to restoring the allure and mystic of "the road to Wembley" that IS part of the competition.
    3. The winner of the cup should attain the 4th spot of the UCL, unless that club already has finished 3rd or higher. Then, the 4th spot should be decided by a playoff match between the club that get's 4th and the FA cup runner up. If both the winner and runner up of the FA cup finished 3rd or higher, then the club that finished 4th in the league would qualify for UCL
    4. Sell the rights to televise the competition to the highest bidder (multiple networks if possible).

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @murray1234567891011
      It is nice to dream and have opinions, but sorry not gonna happen. Manu killed FA Cup (and League Cup) when they called Liverpool as Mickey Mouse for winning domestic cups. Crying over spilled milk is pointless

    • @richard35791
      @richard35791 Pƙed 3 lety

      Sorry disagree with semifinal part, many smaller club make through semifinal but rarely makes final

    • @RodrigoroRex
      @RodrigoroRex Pƙed 3 lety

      @@richard35791 Bro only 4 teams reach the semis...

    • @richard35791
      @richard35791 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@RodrigoroRex you missed my point

    • @steveluckhurst2350
      @steveluckhurst2350 Pƙed 3 lety

      oh go on then, make it all about the money.

  • @briansergeant
    @briansergeant Pƙed 5 lety +73

    United not participating in the 1999-2000 FA Cup because the FA wanted them in the convoluted FIFA Club World Cup because they thought it would "boost" their 2006 World Cup hosting bid ruined the "magic" too.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Pƙed 3 lety

      Maybe if people since then cared more about it and watched more FA Cup games?

  • @SinnohGreen
    @SinnohGreen Pƙed 5 lety +320

    This is the best Cup for a couple of years, it’s not two top six teams this season and most of us want Watford to grind out a victory, or smash some goals past them.

    • @tombaker6753
      @tombaker6753 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      Wolves, Watford and Brighton all made it to the semi finals. But it’s because the top 6 play their reserves which kills the magic of the cup

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper Pƙed 5 lety +21

      Tom Baker city haven't played their reserves once. They even played a full strength side to Burton Albion

    • @RB-NZ2
      @RB-NZ2 Pƙed 5 lety +24

      Guinness they have no reserves to play they’re a money club notice how their only youth player is foden who ain’t even that deep

    • @uptospeed5401
      @uptospeed5401 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Lew NotAJew as a wolves fan who went to Wembley watched us both grind up against Shrewsbury and topple united I can say the fa cup is magical

    • @ghostfacevillah
      @ghostfacevillah Pƙed 5 lety +11

      @@RB-NZ2 city have a tonne of reserves, even as other clubs like leicester, real madrid and dortmund keep buying them

  • @samsamsamsam7
    @samsamsamsam7 Pƙed 5 lety +8

    the 2014 Final between Hull and Arsenal was and probably will always be the best football match ive ever seen. Even as an Arsenal fan, seeing the Tigers batter us early and somehow we claw our way back; is something you never see in the league matches. I love the FA cup games, regardless of the money there is involved, those matches are always a must watch for me.

  • @kaissersreich
    @kaissersreich Pƙed 4 lety +6

    As an Arsenal fan, I love the FA Cup. The thing that I like the most about the FA Cup is when the Semi-Finals and the Finals were played at Wembley. For example 2017 Arsenal vs Chelsea was a big match with over 85 000 attendances at Wembley split between Arsenal and Chelsea supporters. It's still a big competition for me, it's just when some clubs (Chelsea, Man Utd) don't win it, they say that they never wanted to win the cup anyway, and that annoys me

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Pƙed 3 lety

      I'm a Chelsea fan and that is not true, we always take the FA Cup seriously. We were gutted after the Arsenal final last year cause we could have ended a fine first season under Lampard with a trophy, and also when we lost to Leicester, especially with the last minute disallowed goal. We always care about the cup.

  • @cookiequacky8615
    @cookiequacky8615 Pƙed 4 lety +131

    Ah man, this title still saddens me. So sad to see a competition like this fall so far.
    It hit the ground after Aubameyang dropped it. A sad death.

    • @joji1235
      @joji1235 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      😂😂😂😂

    • @cookiequacky8615
      @cookiequacky8615 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Caleb Gosa yes

    • @uncreative5766
      @uncreative5766 Pƙed 3 lety

      I hope you can feel better knowing that Leicester won the FA Cup. I know the cynics will say, "Oh, another Premier League club won, and the days of a 3rd Division side lifting the trophy are over," but I hope today gives you a bit more hope in its future.

  • @snipedotgenius
    @snipedotgenius Pƙed 5 lety +23

    This is the cup that made me fall in love with the whole game as a child growing up the cup final days were the best from morning until the final itself ..
    Pack of custard creams and a tea 😂😂

  • @jackhakken
    @jackhakken Pƙed 5 lety +65

    Problem is... The fucking magic is still there.... Big time, remember Wigan athletic in 2013? It was incredible.

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      A freak result as good as it was that's it really

    • @EAMCFC
      @EAMCFC Pƙed 5 lety +5

      I'm a man city fan I was really annoyed at the time but now I'm just saying well done to them

    • @justsomeone6966
      @justsomeone6966 Pƙed 5 lety

      And portsmouth in 2008?

  • @raptors887
    @raptors887 Pƙed 5 lety +8

    I watched a lot of FA Cup matches this year and teams were playing their best lineups more often than not. It’s still an important trophy.

  • @rorsabest
    @rorsabest Pƙed 5 lety +9

    I feel like this question is very very contextual.
    Speaking from experience; seeing Newport County beat Leeds, Leicester, Middlesborough and having friggen Tottenham and Man City come to Rodney Parade is incredible on an unparalleled level... Plus, the money County earned from those cup runs the last 2 years have arguably allowed them to build a decent league 2 squad.
    Of course it's not what it used to be for the FA as a whole - but it's still an incredible opportunity for small sides

  • @milohargreaves9282
    @milohargreaves9282 Pƙed 5 lety +755

    True football fans still adore the FA cup.

    • @Wolf-hd1hr
      @Wolf-hd1hr Pƙed 5 lety +35

      Well fa cup is a nice cup to win,
      But winning the league is much more important.(and much more financially rewarding too)

    • @milohargreaves9282
      @milohargreaves9282 Pƙed 5 lety +45

      Wolf that’s the issue with modern football, it’s wrong that some clubs think they are too big for the fa cup. This video capitalise the issue which is money as you don’t see the kids getting played when the champions league comes around 👀.

    • @tadieabeki5447
      @tadieabeki5447 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Damn right they do.

    • @jackjerram3550
      @jackjerram3550 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      This was probably Liverpool's priority for this season:
      1. Premier League
      2. Champions League
      3. Club World Cup
      4. Super Cup
      5. FA Cup
      Big teams only care if they've had a shocker of a season and need to win the Cup to get Europa League football

    • @qayyuma9622
      @qayyuma9622 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Wtf is a true football fan

  • @lucathemovieguy431
    @lucathemovieguy431 Pƙed 5 lety +48

    Can you do something about UEFA's poor decision making in locating the Europa League final in Baku

    • @ImranKhan-je2qz
      @ImranKhan-je2qz Pƙed 4 lety +14

      *Welcome to Baku, this place sounds like a planet from the Star Wars franchise, and by the looks of it the fans are in a galaxy far far away!*

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Money.

    • @dangerhawk8799
      @dangerhawk8799 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@ImranKhan-je2qz I see ur a man of culture as well

    • @Rocco-dp3pp
      @Rocco-dp3pp Pƙed 4 lety

      Imran Khan ah yes...... 442oons

    • @samuelgatere7806
      @samuelgatere7806 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      An Olympic shaped stadium, fans are far away from the pitch

  • @dazzla84_ssfc
    @dazzla84_ssfc Pƙed 4 lety +13

    I have to disagree, the FA Cup still has its magic, you just have to go into the qualifying rounds to find it.
    Prize money for the FA Cup in these early rounds can be lifesavers for non-league clubs

  • @NexusHydra
    @NexusHydra Pƙed 5 lety +35

    I love the FA Cup as a man united fan. Seems like there's tons of articles telling us no one cares about the FA Cup but the fans certainly do.

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety

      Fa cup is the 3rd most important trophy in england now

    • @shashankjayaram
      @shashankjayaram Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@sodaking6858 how? It's the 2nd most by a mile

    • @ZainabProductions
      @ZainabProductions Pƙed 5 lety

      Soda King what’s the 2nd then?

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@shashankjayaram I should have clarified I dont mean English trophy's I mean trophy's in general

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@ZainabProductions meant to say trophy's in general

  • @KaboKeboletse
    @KaboKeboletse Pƙed 5 lety +233

    I am of the opinion that the final CL spot should go to the FA Cup winners

    • @Mustieeee
      @Mustieeee Pƙed 5 lety +4

      So a club not from England cant make it to the final

    • @anamrajbhandari6593
      @anamrajbhandari6593 Pƙed 5 lety +57

      Lenny Kabo Keboletse shut the FA cup

    • @umarabdaziz
      @umarabdaziz Pƙed 5 lety +44

      I think he meant fa cup winner should go to cl instead of forth place. Unless the winner is also in top 3.

    • @anamrajbhandari6593
      @anamrajbhandari6593 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      Umar Abd Aziz what about the winners of copa ittalia,cops del Rey ??

    • @PrathamBatra
      @PrathamBatra Pƙed 5 lety +27

      They already get a Europa League spot, that's more than enough

  • @Urlocallordandsavior
    @Urlocallordandsavior Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Perhaps a way to revitalize the FA Cup is to give them automatic qualification to the Champions League round of 16/group stage, as a consolation for the now defunct Cup Winners' Cup tournament, of which currently the FA Cup winner's spot is given qualification to the Europa League group stage, which in my opinion is a downgrade from the specialty that was once the Cup Winners' Cup. As a bonus, perhaps you can also give the League Cup winners a place in the Champions League group stage or in the earlier qualifying rounds, as another path for the various nations' cup winners to advance in the Champions League, maybe slightly below clubs who finish higher in the league spots. Although I doubt that UEFA would give a hoot about these cup tournaments from its UEFA member countries but it's still worth putting this idea out there.

  • @infrasleep
    @infrasleep Pƙed 5 lety +3

    The cup started to die when they limited games to one replay and then penalty kicks, and when the final was decided on penalty kicks 130 years of history was trashed It killed the romance and work place debates Well done to Lincoln reaching the QF as a non league side but was anyone "shocked" or even romanced by it ? If that'd happened 40 years earlier we'd still be talking about it now the way we do about Sunderland's magical win in 1973. There's nothing anyone can do that will ever restore the Cup to it's former status , and when you have the "Champions" League contested by 2 clubs who haven't won the league title for 30 years and 59 years respectively and everyone thinks its great-what hope ? Maybe if the "Big" clubs all did bugger off and form a closed shop European "Super" (tedious) league, the old game might start reviving.

  • @blackfalcon1324
    @blackfalcon1324 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    The FA cup will always be special to me. Yes, the premier league is better, obviously, but the FA cup is what brings all the leagues, from amateur to premier together in the ultimate battle of skill. I think it is more important for lower leagues as it can allow them to get some attention if they do very well. Non league matters to.

  • @zvonomirzuboronovic8662
    @zvonomirzuboronovic8662 Pƙed 5 lety +20

    The prospect of Chris Kamara
    reporting from a Brazzers set would've tempted me to subscribe to Sky for the first time ever.

    • @gigadonis8684
      @gigadonis8684 Pƙed 3 lety

      "WHAT A SHOT THERE LET'S HEAD DOWN TO MARTIN TYLER!!!"
      "GET IN THEREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! A MESMERIZING SHOT FROM 30 YARDS OUT!!! TAKE A BOW SERGIO AGUERO FOR SHOWING US THE IS THE MAGIC OF THE 69 CUP!!! Alan Smith what did you make of it?"
      "THAT WAS SUPERB! IT CAME AT RILEY REID LIKE A MISSILE SHE HAD NO CHANCE OF STOPPING THAT SHOT STUNNING WORK THERE!!!"
      "THAT COULD BE THE SHOT THAT TAKES THEM TO THE JAV WORLD CUP!!! SUPERB!!!"

  • @davidsabillon5182
    @davidsabillon5182 Pƙed 5 lety +25

    I'm like addicted to this channel

  • @catch22andys51
    @catch22andys51 Pƙed 5 lety +256

    Maybe one of the Champions League spots should go to the winner of the FA Cup?

    • @ELCNUmorFnaMehT
      @ELCNUmorFnaMehT Pƙed 5 lety

      Real talk

    • @morgengabe1
      @morgengabe1 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      @Tom Paganhandle United still wouldn't get a shout tbh.

    • @redarmy1886
      @redarmy1886 Pƙed 5 lety +53

      MeOhYesMe sorry mate but if you want spurs to win ucl you can't call yourself a gooner😂

    • @abdi2241
      @abdi2241 Pƙed 5 lety

      @TIR]SuperMilan888 chelsea won fa cup last year arsenal the year before

    • @timoe360
      @timoe360 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      Catch22 Andys The winner qualifies for the Europa league but if already qualified it goes to 7th spot (wolves). But should be champions league but I don’t think England could have potentially 6 teams in the same tournament that would be insane

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    I think the FA Cup needs to switch format to Copa del Rey. Having the weak teams always be the hosts will truly make the competition better and will allow for some unexpected surprises, just like the Copa del Rey has.

  • @iangoldsworthy2056
    @iangoldsworthy2056 Pƙed 5 lety +24

    What killed the F.A Cup was the Premier league clubs fielding second, third string sides in favour of their best sides to focus more on the league.
    Secondly the F.A Cup final being scheduled before the domestic season has ended.
    But I think the real reason was that Man United refused to enter the F.A Cup in the 1999/2000 to defend it due to contractual reasons for the World Club cup.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Ironically it was the FA that forced United to play in it

  • @izzojunior
    @izzojunior Pƙed 5 lety +5

    The change became even more evident with Arsene Wenger and Ferguson rotating their squads in the late 90snot to mention Fegie skipping it in whole to play the club Cup in 2000, it’s still a wonderful tournament

    • @JayJay-vz1hm
      @JayJay-vz1hm Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Btw Man Utd Skipping the FA cup in 2000 was down to the FA and their bid for the 2006 World Cup....

  • @espben360
    @espben360 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    For me FA Cup magic is definitely there. Lincoln city showed that couple years ago, and swanswa would have been next had it not been for some questionable refferee decisions going againts them vs city

  • @cooperrush6474
    @cooperrush6474 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    Granted the FA Cup has fallen a long way but I think the magic is still there to some extent, and as an Atletico Madrid supporter I think English football fans should be grateful their their cup competition is still in a much better place than say, the Copa Del Rey or the Coppa Italia, which are both in absolute shambles. Germany's DFB Pokal is pretty much the only remaining example of a cup competition done right in European football.

  • @conahlestrange9794
    @conahlestrange9794 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    For me Ben Watsons goal for Wigan against City in the Final was the last moment of magic I felt for the cup I’m a united fan and I actually ended up going to the community shield the year after against Wigan they’d been relegated the same year they won it always hoped they’d come back up

    • @saiyerugara9038
      @saiyerugara9038 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      Hmmmmmmmm... for me it was when Arsenal beat Chelsea in that final in 2017.

  • @LukeDHarrison2002
    @LukeDHarrison2002 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Personally I still love the fa cup. It’s a great competition and it’s fantastic to see little teams knocking out big teams and going on cup-runs.

  • @matthewvernon3774
    @matthewvernon3774 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I'm a 32 year old Blackburn and have seen us win the Premier League, the League Cup and reach the Last 32 in the UEFA Cup. I'd love to see us win the FA Cup, or even reach a final. I've been to 2 semis and losing in Extra Time to Chelsea in 2007 is still one of my most painful foitballing memories. We have a proud tradition in the FA Cup, the first team to win it 3 times in a row and 6 wins in total, the last coming in 1928. Our only other final since then, in 1960, we lost to Wolves. The most famous thing to come out of that match is Dave Whelan broke his leg, ending his career so he set up JJB Sports instead! All these stories live on, and while I'd love to see us back in the Premier League, an FA Cup would mean much more.

  • @ricardotella1864
    @ricardotella1864 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Its a lot better than that tinpot League Cup

  • @danegel
    @danegel Pƙed 5 lety +2

    The Champions League expanding to include runners-up and such had a detrimental effect, making losing finalists increasingly compete in the Cup Winners' Cup as the winner had already qualified for the superior competition, which in turn caused the CWC to dissolve and pit cup winners with 6th-placed teams in UEFA's tertiary competition.

  • @adrianiliesi3213
    @adrianiliesi3213 Pƙed 5 lety +11

    not even mentioning uefa and the UCL seems like a major omission...

  • @markpaulo269
    @markpaulo269 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    First game watched on tv, FA cup final 1970/71 Arsenal vs Liverpool, magic atmosphere while the first division was the bread and butter of football, times change 💰💰💰

  • @kingeatking
    @kingeatking Pƙed 5 lety +7

    The Premier League started with 22 teams and didn't get reduced to 20 teams until the 95/96 season.

  • @harrierjames7727
    @harrierjames7727 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    The thing is that this video (and most media attention) focuses on stages of the FA Cup where there is little or no interest for the bigger clubs. But, start in August and right through until the first and even the second round, there are real fairytales and the clubs that make the competition the biggest cup competition in the world all battle it out for potential progression. It's wonderful, just not after a certain point.

  • @AldershotDave
    @AldershotDave Pƙed 5 lety +20

    The Bradford City fire had nothing to do with hooliganism.

  • @johnpacino007
    @johnpacino007 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    The same could be said for the world cup vs the champions league & the rise of " super teams ".
    All the best players from the world, pocketed in a handful of clubs across Europe. There's no chance national teams can compete with that. Imagine if this had happened in the late 1960s & you had Pelé, Best, Beckenbauer, in the same team?

  • @marcusrakyat8891
    @marcusrakyat8891 Pƙed 5 lety +7

    FA Cup is the most iconic Cup in the world. Full of surprises.

  • @de132
    @de132 Pƙed 5 lety +48

    You guys seemed to lift this directly from the book, Soccernomics.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper Pƙed 5 lety

      de132 yeah I think they've read it too

  • @ShaneJoshua1980
    @ShaneJoshua1980 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Th FA did by having semi's at Wembley I'd love it to go back to Villa Park, Anfield, Old Trafford, Highb....đŸ˜Ș Emirates. I must those days.

    • @leopold7562
      @leopold7562 Pƙed 5 lety

      I don't think that was what started it, but it certainly had a big impact. The FA made this change so they could recoup some of the huge expense they went to to build the new stadium, but it's not the fans that are to blame and yet we're the ones made to suffer. In the all Manchester semi final in 2011, it would've made sense to use Anfield or maybe Ewood Park, rather than have everyone slog down the M6.

  • @deekyevans5235
    @deekyevans5235 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Good analysis and perspective. The other aspect was the FA Cup final used to be jewel and the main live televised football game at the end of the season

  • @ronmac9522
    @ronmac9522 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Shifting it to a 17:00. kick off on a Saturday evening was a terrible move. I used to get excited on cup final day. You would get cup final swap shop and cup final saint and greaevsy. It was also the last match of the season.

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    It's true to mention the NFL and NBA growing like crazy. It was a magical time for both sports. The 49ers were the eminent power of the league, but there were also the Monsters of the Midway Bears, Lawrence Taylor and the Giants. The Showtime Lakers were one of the most entertaining and dominant groups the NBA had ever seen. Michael Jordan was starting out, Larry Bird although aging, still showed he could be a force to be reckoned with. That being said, I wonder how the overall gap in population played a role between England, the FA, Football League, and fans, because it's hard to imagine even in the 80s the UK having anywhere near a population size of the US.

  • @narcolonarcolo
    @narcolonarcolo Pƙed 5 lety +5

    I'm not even from the UK and I love the FA Cup. Definitely one of my top 3 coolest competitions in the world.

  • @MrJimboCross
    @MrJimboCross Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Still love the FA Cup. As a Birmingham fan it's great to draw a small team away and watch your team in a small ground somewhere

  • @jimmyart007
    @jimmyart007 Pƙed 5 lety +49

    Video killed the FA Cup's star

  • @owl-arm7545
    @owl-arm7545 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    From watching Coventry, Wimbledon and Wigan win the cup to Steven Gerrard's last minute equaliser against West Ham to watching Canvey Island beat Northampton Town, the FA Cup is pure magic! You just have to watch the kid crying in the crowd, when Havant & Waterlooville take the lead for a second time against Liverpool at Anfield, to realise the FA Cup is a thing of unrivalled beauty!

  • @nkskro80
    @nkskro80 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    I’ve always believed that if the league cup was scrapped then making just one domestic cup competition then that would make the FA Cup more valued. Countries in Spain, Germany & Italy etc only have the league & one domestic cup competition.

  • @paulmanton7817
    @paulmanton7817 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember when the FA cup final started a week before it was played

  • @aes1373
    @aes1373 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Why not have a qualification match for the last ucl spot between 4th place and fa cup winners. Winners of that match go to ucl and the losers to uel.

  • @STFCHarry
    @STFCHarry Pƙed 4 lety +4

    “The magic of the fa cup has gone”
    Me: *thinks about Shrewsbury 2-2 Liverpool*

  • @coyotelong4349
    @coyotelong4349 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Same thing that killed everything in football- BIG MONEY

  • @fadliomar5530
    @fadliomar5530 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Arsenal king of fa cup. But we want to be a king of champion league too đŸ˜Ș that lost in 2006 still in my mind till now

    • @matin8043
      @matin8043 Pƙed 4 lety

      2006 after we lost that game we fell off

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 Pƙed 5 lety +9

    Money took over and all the clubs were worried about was finishing in the top 4 . The FA cup was the pinnacle of the season. I used to watch it from 9am until the end at about half 5. No matter who was playing.

  • @muddabirulfahadchowdhury1247

    The last line had me 😂

  • @KinnyRiddle
    @KinnyRiddle Pƙed 5 lety +3

    I'm surprised you completely neglected to mention the impact of the ever growing money-making monster that is the UEFA Champions League which further killed the glamour of the FA Cup.

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      My opinion on what caused the slide of the fa cup was the year Manchester dropped out of it to focus on the champions league it was a huge embarrassment to the fa cup as united were the biggest team in england at that time and if they didn't enter the fa cup it was clearly not a good competition

  • @henriktiger9073
    @henriktiger9073 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    The Carabao (EFL) Cup is a major reason why big Premier League clubs care less about the FA Cup. Between 38 domestic league games, Champions/Europa League, 2 domestic cups, and national teams, it’s too many games. Since the big clubs care more about Champions/Europa League and winning the Premier League, the domestic cups get put on the back burner.

  • @rinaldiwahab4750
    @rinaldiwahab4750 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Fa cup is still as the most reputable domestic cup in the world, and for the lower league football, FA cup could give huge impact financially

  • @tarkanbashllari1627
    @tarkanbashllari1627 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    South America clearly shows one way of returning the magic of the FA Cup.
    In most South American countries, the cup winner qualifies for the Copa Libertadores (think of it as UCL). You could practically be mid-table, fighting for relegation, or a second/third/fourth/whatever tier club and you could still qualify for the Libertadores by winning your own country's cup.
    It doesn't sound like a very good idea but at the very least it would suddenly make the FA Cup a big thing again because let's face it, I don't think you could be a big club and not care about a competition where a Champions League spot is at stake.

    • @widerspacefanz4316
      @widerspacefanz4316 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I'm sorry but Libertadores is not like UCL. It's more like UEL nor uefa super cup since libertadores is just a competition between the best club in south america but no team from north and central america in the competition. Copa Interamericana was the closer thing that we can think of it as UCL because it was a competition between the best club from Concacaf and Conmebol in overall back then. However, they abolished this cup immidiately after the last one in 1998 which won by north american team. Guess what ? The football competition in a whole American continent would've be growing bigger if interamericana still exist.

  • @TheGiantKillers
    @TheGiantKillers Pƙed 5 lety +4

    As a cup historian, there's no doubt this is true, and I write extensively on the cup every year. However, in the last couple of years, there have been green shoots of hope for the cup. Firstly, there's definitely been an upturn in interest in Giant Killing, which I attribute directly to Bradford's victory over Chelsea a few years ago. It rekindled something that had been largely snuffed out. Also, the strength of Premier League squads has meant that fielding a second string team no longer means fielding a weakened one. The squad system and strength in the Premier League has now seen a sea change whereby 15 years ago the top flight fielded a team of players some o their own fans could be forgiven for having thought they sold two years earlier. Now, on cup day the teams are much changed but still very strong and have been given a rebrand as 'the cup side' suggesting to the public. This is still a strong side worthy of the shirt they wear. This is less so in the Championship where second string sides are still very much that. The magic of the cup is still there, it's just a little tatty. What would fix it? 1: A recognition that the cup in England is special by offering a playoff against EPL 4th for that final coveted Champions League spot. 2: Reduced admission prices and special offer ticketing to fill the stadium on cup day. [That said, despite the suggestion, the big clubs don't fancy the cup anymore, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Everton rarely have an empty seat on 3rd round day even if the opponents are 4th tier. Only Manchester's duo seem to struggle to get a full gate.

    • @Taeerom
      @Taeerom Pƙed 5 lety +2

      The problem of reducing ticket prices is that it also devalues your product. I think it was an head of marketing at some American club that said something of the nature of "you can do anything to increase attendance, sell beer at a loss, have big lotteries, free T-shirts, whatever. But never ever reduce the price of attendance". His logic was that nobedy would by the ticket again next week if it was more expensive than when they bought it the first time. But if they had a good experience, that good experience is in the forefront of their mind and are likely to want to go again, even if the reason they went the first time was a free T-shirt.

    • @TheGiantKillers
      @TheGiantKillers Pƙed 5 lety

      @Christian Hernandez ill give you more time to put the words cup and historian together and think about it but as a clue. The cup has a history which I've written about to the extent of getting occasionally paid for it

  • @Ese96Agoaye
    @Ese96Agoaye Pƙed 5 lety +2

    "In England, you cannot be a big club, and say we don't care about the FA Cup". Cc: Tottenham Hotspur Cc: Leicester City (both should've had a proper cup run, but more so, the former).
    I feel the FA Cup has been a consolation trophy since 2013, but I glad that's not the case (for this season anyway), as the stakes are higher than ever! Manchester City has the pressure as everyone is talking them up as being the first side to win a domestic treble, but no one is talking up Watford, thus leaving them to play freely.

  • @LeedsUnitedJohn
    @LeedsUnitedJohn Pƙed 5 lety +8

    I miss the excitement of the FA Cup as it used to be. The big Guys v the little Guys and the neutrals hoping for an FA Cup shock.

  • @normanby100
    @normanby100 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    The trouble is that the Championship play off final at Wembley has overtaken the FA Cup final become the season's true climax match.

  • @pakyip9267
    @pakyip9267 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    The magic was gone when the rivalry between SAF and Arsene in the FA Cup no longer exists. But AFC still the FA Cup club for the time being ... For top English clubs prioritising the EPL or UCL glory, it can be seen as a distraction. However, any teams cannot get far in Europa League, its a trophy that means a lot. So, Watford, it's the highlight of their season.
    But true; these days money talk and the clubs desperate for EPL survival just for the money to pay their salaries and keep the clubs going. FA Cup is just for sporting reasons. A trophy if failing elsewhere all season.

  • @steveluckhurst2350
    @steveluckhurst2350 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    In the last 5 cup finals how many of the players were British and therefore understood it's importance to the domestic game? It's not just another cup, it was part of everyone's childhood, especially those of us old enough to remember all day coverage, from team bus right through to post match interviews.
    ,

  • @dnstone1127
    @dnstone1127 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    What about the Crappybao, EFL, League cup ?

  • @matheusfiorelli8829
    @matheusfiorelli8829 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    here in Brazil, our Domestic Cup qualifiies to the Copa Libertadores, so if they give the Cup winner a spot in the Champions League, teams would look at it with other eyes

  • @2in1soccer
    @2in1soccer Pƙed 5 lety +15

    To be honest; it all died when oil money started to come into British Football. Suddenly, people stopped caring about FA Cup and only wanted champions league. Chelsea and Man City started to field B teams into the FA Cup, and now other teams followed suit. Back in the days, Utd and Arsenal would treat FA Cup like the champions league and hence why they won it so much.

    • @najeeb6834
      @najeeb6834 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Oh so when you people have nothing to blame you blame it on city

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Pƙed 3 lety

      Chelsea care about the FA Cup actually. They have won 8! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
      Liverpool field C teams these days

  • @edwardcanning1577
    @edwardcanning1577 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Man u killed it !

  • @josephroy7773
    @josephroy7773 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    Could you do a video on the rise and fall of Bolton Wanderers?

    • @adamphillip5305
      @adamphillip5305 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      There was a rise?

    • @benphipps6498
      @benphipps6498 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@adamphillip5305 they finished 6th in the Premier League in the mid 2000s and had players like Okocha, Djorkaeff, Diouf and Speed. Feel free to show your ignorance though.

  • @daratheprofessional1827
    @daratheprofessional1827 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    What about when Alex Ferguson pulled Man Utd. out of the FA Cup to play three game's in the World club Championship!!

  • @shx6ut229
    @shx6ut229 Pƙed 5 lety +32

    Why the league cup doesn't get scrapped? It should be premier league, fa cup and community shield, there is no need to league cup.

    • @cooperlindsay8185
      @cooperlindsay8185 Pƙed 5 lety +6

      fuck off, winning the league cup gets you into the europa and is valued as a good trophy to win by the top clubs

    • @cooperlindsay8185
      @cooperlindsay8185 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      literally would ruin the chance of any club doing the domestic treble

    • @shx6ut229
      @shx6ut229 Pƙed 5 lety +9

      @@cooperlindsay8185 who wins the trophy other then the top 6? The fa cup gives you a Europa league place also, what is the point of two cups in one season? The domestic treble can be won by winning the fa cup, the premier league and the shield. It should be scrapped imo, instead, the fa cup should get the importance it deserves.

    • @abbaszaidi8371
      @abbaszaidi8371 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      shx 6ut agreed- or how about like the FA Vase, remove premier league teams only as it’s the LEAGUE cup. It’ll raise the profile of the second tier teams- although could it still be a gateway to Europe?

    • @shx6ut229
      @shx6ut229 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@abbaszaidi8371 That won't bad also.

  • @adamyesho8098
    @adamyesho8098 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    The F. A cup has produced the most Iconic, magical and breathtaking moments. From Wigans underdog win, Liverpool vs West ham thriller to Arsenal ending their 9 year drought. Goals like Ryan Giggs solo goal vs Arsenal upto Matic thundergoal vs Spurs.
    Today history could be made when Manchester City could potentially win a domestic treble being the first of its kind in England.
    Watford could upset the odds by providing World football with yet another beautiful underdog tale.
    Wembley..... Let the sparks fly 🎆🎇🎇🎇✹✹✹.

    • @justsomeone6966
      @justsomeone6966 Pƙed 5 lety

      Why do we forget about portsmouth fa cup in 2008

  • @matteastwood87
    @matteastwood87 Pƙed 5 lety +38

    Lee Cattermole is the true magic of the FA Cup

  • @carlbyronrodgers
    @carlbyronrodgers Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Very informative.thank you.

  • @areebkhan4294
    @areebkhan4294 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    I miss arsen wenger đŸ€§

  • @steamcleana_6918
    @steamcleana_6918 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Best video in a while apart from not mentioning smaller clubs

  • @theirishman8579
    @theirishman8579 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Arsenal DEFINITELY still adore the FA Cup

  • @iwantgoals1566
    @iwantgoals1566 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Brilliant video as usual. Thanks for also de-bunking the myth that United ruined the cup. Can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard that utter crap over the years.

  • @finalgeneration1462
    @finalgeneration1462 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    The premiere league got way too competitive is why

  • @jamesbudden6
    @jamesbudden6 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    bloody good content, this.

  • @CaptainOvious123
    @CaptainOvious123 Pƙed 5 lety +11

    Interesting how you glossed over Utd pulling out of the FA Cup in 99-00 to focus on international club football

    • @20timesmanunited20
      @20timesmanunited20 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      FA wanted us to play in it to help England's world cup bid.

    • @CaptainOvious123
      @CaptainOvious123 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@20timesmanunited20 Right, but that's still a major reason why the FA Cup has lost is popularity

  • @leopold7562
    @leopold7562 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    It's too simplistic to blame the Premier League for the death of the FA Cup, but... well, it was the Premier League :/

  • @cim888
    @cim888 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    If your club has $100 million team why risk them for injury for a 5m prize for winning it?

  • @alexmistlin6147
    @alexmistlin6147 Pƙed rokem

    Thanks for the vids amazing stuff x

  • @eaglenate
    @eaglenate Pƙed 5 lety +8

    Manchester United disrespecting the FA cup in 1999/00 should have seen them expelled permanently but the FA being the soft touches they are did nothing after United deemed a club world cup of more importance.

  • @Executor009
    @Executor009 Pƙed rokem +2

    Im from MĂ©xico and i still think the FA Cup format is the best, the FA Cup is probably the best football competition in the world.