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H R GIGER - Birth is death (art analysis by Rob Ager)
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2018
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I still think of all the depictions of alien places seen in movies over the years, the space jockey's pseudo organic ship comes across as the most authentically extraterrestrial. The scenes inside the craft, at least for me, have a visceral quality that feel genuinely otherworldly. Even with today's high tech CGI, no other movie has ever come close to Giger's portrayal of a truly alien environment.
Totally agree. The space jockey and ship is the most convincing depiction of extra terrestrials ever put on film. The scene screams out at its audience that man has no place other than the Earth that spawned him. The rest of the universe is absolutely hostile to man's presence.
T. Gorbach I'm still pissed off they literally told h.r.giger to fuck off and die in alien 3! Totally insane. It's his design that made those films.
How could they not use all the new crazy ideas he proposed is beyond me.
Well it showed, Alien 3 was awful.
T. Gorbach look into it, the new creatures and ideas he came up with were way out there,,would have lifted it into a classic. Apparently he was pissed off about it until he died. He even built models with his own money and tried to send them film makers. They literally told him "they were too busy".... He invited them to his studios...they said " they were too busy!" Holy fuck can you believe it !!! Jesus !
It’s all from humanities subconscious, artists can dip into this. Humanity has created machines in the image of itself..even though we still don’t understand it all.
Another thing to notice is how there is never any suggestion of movement. Everything is static, dead
Yep. Great username btw, I remember you from my visits to the La Gondola restaurant. czcams.com/video/EF9JUYJCC_s/video.html
Now, now, this "La Gondola restauraunt" never existed, and even if it did I'm sure it'd be a completely legitimate business... but it actually doesn't exist, and check the tax records if you don't believe me.
PS That's a nice channel Ager has... would be a shame if someone were to... Rob Ager...
PPS Sorry I couldn't resist
If you think his art is dark and challenging. Get a load of the cartoonist, Charles Addams.
I can't stand Giger either. What a hack.
@@Mark-fv8vt why are you here then
Was Giger shown the concentrationcamp films that germans were forced to watch after the war? He was swiss and Giger was born 1940. Just wondering because those films were black and white and compare in some imagery. For instance the emaciated piles of nude bodies. And living people that looked like the dead. For a five year old, that could leave a trauma.
"Birth is death."
How I heart this sentiment.
It's also noticeable that there's hardly any hair on his work as hair makes humans more lively and distinct
Giger has been an abiding obsession of mine and Alien is one of my favorite films. Dark Star is a cool documentary about him (I believe it was released just after his death) if you haven't seen it yet.
Sight beyond the norm is valuable. Giger was a genius.
Giger supported many a metal band in Sweden, fact of matter.. there is a trust that he made to do so.
@faded fella He was?
who knew that sleep paralysis/night terrors can make people go mad with their artistic sense.... HR Giger, HP Lovecraft, William S Burroughs, they all made interesting stuff because of it, a good source of inspiration there i say it
Transition Point so sleep paralysis = satanic influence?
@@futuredirector999 Influence from other beeings, exactly. There is no point in talking with art intusiasts about that. You need some out of the box thinking to understand what was going on. IMO you also see that with Giger, where his 60's works were inferiour and less dark compared to the famous later stuff.
Giger fear overpopulation and over industrialization
also you aint reading to much into, there are a few documentaries online where Giger talks about his art
This was a great art analysis video, Rob. I've always been aware of Giger's wor,k, and what it looks like, but never thought much at all about what it might mean beyond his "Alien Machine Queen Demon Dark Looking Art Stuff". If this was just a "Taste", I might just get the 71 minute thing. :)
Giger was a heavily influenced by Gnosticism. Read about Gnosticism and you are far more likely to understand the profundity of his life's works.
His arwork reminds me of the Borg .
He might have been a star trek fan, who knowes?
@@muffnman980 These pieces were done way before tng did the Borg. I'd say the inspiration is the other way around.
@@Palafico3 oh wait, yeah of course because alien was before TNG,
I really love the details in his work
The profound lack of warmth in his work is hauntingly alien.
How does one NOT committ suicide if you're dating HR Giger?
Hahaha
Exactly
@@lstarrtna4288 So, it's a couple years later, we're stuck in quarantine, and I've come to the conclusion that the most fascinating part of this is:
Why does H.R. Giger have a gun collection? This opens up so many questions:
I mean, is he just, like, an American dude who wants to shoot stuff up? Is the reason he likes that gun the best because it's the smoothest shooting? If so, did she use it to kill herself because it shot the best?
I can go on and on...
5:01 - _"These ones all sat in chairs may as well be Giger's own audience"_ loool !! 😂 😃 😄 😅 😂 😃 😄 😅
There is happiness in life as well as sadness, there is expression of all good and bad ,there is projection the intertwined way of chaos and random positions of natural selections, both dark and light live together.
0:52 picture used as cover for the Black Metal Masterpiece "To Mega Therion" (1985) by legendary swiss band Celtic Frost.
I always thought Giger's art was speaking about industrialization or how mechanical humans are or are becoming.
Love this video, thanks Rob. Keep up the great work!
loved it, wish there was a part 2, honestly thats the first thing i looked for when this finished
Over an hour of this video on his website, you have to purchase for $3 or $4
@User Name i like paying rob over netflix :)
Fantastic content! My friend announced her pregnancy and I sent her Necronomicon. She was honored. As another viewpoint on the babies, they look a little like the artist himself. As you mentioned the babies are often coming from penises rather than vaginas, so there’s a portrait of the artist as the artist moment and the inevitable slide into goo is the absence of the female. A man is no god with no goddess. I’m gay, and boy do we love a goddess. Love all your videos.
Very interesting video. I always liked his art when I came across it but never bothered to delve deeper into it. So, your video was very informative for me.
I bet this Giger fella designed some lovely Christmas cards.
Excellent, informative and a visual feast of surreal Art by one of the greatest of our time.
They opend up a museum of Giger art in the city of Mexico, im from the north of mexico, when my sister when to the City i told her to go to the museum, she brouth me a book of all of Giger's work, i always find his work so deep and original
H r Giger was truly ahead of his time I just wish you was still around today explain what goes on in his mind and see him make more phenomenal work but I guess there's always going to be people out there like him that can follow in his path
Great video! I love Geiger’s work. It always makes me feel in touch with my humanity.
Then go to the counter in his bar and ask for some U-238
This was one of my favorites of yours. Going to purchase the full length video
Your videos are rad man.
Also, at time of writing this 911 views
It's ironic how Giger supposedly hated religion (Christianity) and yet his work is so deeply religious. Birth and Death, being one and the same, a portal towards the trackless abyss, and the conception of it imbuing all you witness with the purest sense of HORROR, blood-curdling and soul crushing. It kind of reminds me of when Kazantzakis visited a great monastery and a resident monk told him that wherever he looked, he should 'see' Christ Crucified. And Kazantzakis answered that wherever he looked, he 'saw' Christ Resurrected and left the monastery saying "God does not reside here".
Maybe that MF Giger needed Jesus too, aye? :P
Yea if he hated religion why is Satan in so many of his paintings as a powerful figure lol
@AquaCF69 I think bersinski was receiving the same dreams he was very similar to giger but more landscape artist and came before giger you should check his works if not seen them
@AquaCF69 *beksinski even
I can draw a little bit but Ohh such genius. Have always loved this artist, deep,mesmerising images that leave me pondering mortality and existence and even panicking a bit with a sort of existential dread. Amazing. Reminds me of the Matrix too.
Beautiful video, i ver much enjoy your explination for the paintings
Very good - I've always love HR GIGER'S work
Thank you for continuing to publish freely accessed quality content, Rob. Have you seen Annihilation yet?
Andeimirqan: I heard that movie is quite awesome....I'm guessing you agree?
I also would love to see Rob Ager do a film analysis for annihilation. There are so many layers of meaning in that movie and I think if anyone can find them all it's Rob Ager.
Annihilation is such an intellectual film, it had me tipping my fedora. Only Rick & Morty fans will understand all the deep meanings of that film.
Agreed. Sometimes while watching a movie I would occasionally wonder if Rob would like it and this is the first one in a long time that I think he actually would. Tons of subliminal visual techniques and symbolism throughout.
Bruce Lee: Love your name btw...thanks for the mini review...now I'm really wanting to see it!!
The pumper excursion looks just like the space jockey in Alien, the legs being the big gun in front of him and their right hands are in the same position...
Just goes to show the enduring beauty of Giger’s work.
you nuts?
@@alexyoyo5830 I guess so!
Lee’s hatred of his portraits of her suggests that she was frustrated with how he reduced her to a muse / inspiration / goddess. I don’t know much about their relationship, but it wouldn’t be the first time the artist/model relationship was contentious, possibly even abusive.
He also loved jazz music and wanted to do the cover for miles Davis bitches brew ..the shotgun is abstracted as a saxophone alot in his art .
He was actually confused and deflated when a rock audience likened his work judging on the images
You NEED to play Scorn.
It’s like getting to step inside a Giger (or Bekzinski) painting and getting to explore that world.
One of the few games that truly transcends into art.
I love that you do these videos about Giger. Been a fan since I got his Penis Landscape painting in a dead Kennedy’s Record when I was 10. I met him at a tattoo convention in the early nineties. You’d have thought Jesus walked in to the room.
Wow! What was he like?
Imo there is no light in the world depicted in Geiger’s paintings. He just paints what is there, but not how it would be seen. These creatures live in eternal darkness.
2:46 - WHOAH!!!!!!
That was so well thought out and insightful.
3:40 the phallic shape is also surrounded by what looks like a pant's unzipped. The structures in front look like a belt unbuckled.
3:58 , my apologies.
Best. Artist. Ever.
The Universe as a whole is always dying...💀 Perhaps we are just trickling life-force that's being cycled through different dimensions in a vast multiverse inside of something that we cannot possibly begin to fathom...👌🏼💯✔
This guy is fucking rad!
Often when people shop themselves in the head the blood flows rather profusely from the nares, mouth and eyes
#Relatable
Great video rob. Always enjoy your giger videos. It's amazing to just stop and think for a minute that this guys girlfriend shot herself, such a tragedy, and then for giger to create such artwork. It's almost like his creative mind has evolved beyond the norm to create such otherworldly images
This was a very interesting video, if it's not too late I'd like to see a video about Zdzilaw Beksiński, one of my favorite artists.
Inspite of being a religious person, I love Gigers work.
What about his work on Poltergeist 2, that worm monster brth scene is the best part of the film!.
Cheers Rob, love Giger
Peephole Circus 👏dude thank you for posting this. I’ve been searching for that scene for a really long time now and I mean a really long time, since the late nineties. 🙌
Funny synchronicity. I was just pondering the same topic yesterday for a while after watching "FEAR FACTORY - Expiration Date" official music video on youtube. They even use similar Giger-esque visual esthetics in their video.
I enjoyed your analysis!
Wicked cool😎
Awesome analysis.
Excellent analysis.
That image at 8:50 always struck me as semen moving from the imprisoned, dying male at the bottom, into the female at the top, herself seeming on some kind of zombie like trip or autopilot mode. A number of his images have that "drawing from him to her" theme.
It looks more like an exchange between them in this particular painting, haha
He was a genious, I felt like an idiot when you explained all that symbolism
I wish Giger had been psychoanalyzed. Buddhist metaphysics theorizes that the human soul casts itself from nonexistence into existence through sensation seeking and conjuring mental formations. Giger's juxtaposition and confusion of birth and death are the closest thing I have heard to that abstract Buddhist metaphysical concept.
I too saw that connection..."what has origination has its cessation..."
Seeing how his girlfriend died I can see this being an inspiration for what happened to David and Shaw in Covenant. The new girlfriend being a symbol of Daniels.
The Master and Margarita could be inspired by the Russian novel of the same name.
Giger looked like his babies.
seems like you've nailed it
I believe Müggi III was key in Giger's death. I think Müggi III grabbed Giger on the steps and he tripped. Look at the documentary Dark Star: H.R. Giger's World, Müggi III claws Giger at least once.
life is a life sentence with a stay of execution
There is certainly really primitive pré-ego bodily stuff in the fusion of eros and Thanos in the most bodily aspect. I always feel somehow a mistreated child when I dwell in his image.
this is good stuff man please cut the original up and put it on here
Make a nice Christmas present.
Did Li really shoot herself? Or.... The idea might cast a completely different "light" on his work.
As above so below.
I'm Catholic. Giger's art has never offended me.
another thing on the cappo chairs, you sit with your head almost inside a human pelvis ...
Couple of thoughts:
I disagree about the space jockey's apparatus as a penis metaphor, to me in more resembles an umbilical cord and would complete the womb metaphor of the room he is in. I do agree that his hands are linked to masturbation but I would like to point out, they could also be mirroring aircraft flight controls. Ridley Scott did describe the ship as a bomber.Is it possible that Giger and/or Scott was calling the pilot a wanker? Maybe as a comment to describe someone who carts around WMDs like a bomber pilot?
The Li 2 painting is very interesting but what if the cans the upper figures are holding are not pesticides but spray paint? Giger may have commenting on his relationship even before her death.
I love your work and it just lights my mind on fire to see it. Thank you.
jweathers131 No need to disagree because I think both yours and his interpretation can be valid at the same time. There can be several meanings at the same time.
My greatest dream has been for the Alien movies to go to the actual engineer home world and it be a Giger planet.
If they make Alien Awakening and that doesn’t happen it’ll be hugely disappointing.
Rob has far better perspectives on art than this video would seem to indicate.
This comment is actually in relation to "Let's over-analyze ALIEN (Rob Ager loses the plot)" which I can't find on CZcams anymore, it was in relation to the Alien's head looking like a penis.
I suppose the Alien really is a dick head [insert drum roll here], yeah, I'll get my bags.
Was it Dan O' Bannon who said Giger used a childs skull inside the Alien mask
4:18 The Passage Temple painting is literally a penis coming out of a pair of jeans. There is a zipper in the bottom middle of the work making the part the figures reside on the waist of the jeans.
He would have been a superstar in the era of Baroque. In that era art used to be very morbid.
.. All these assumptions in regards to Gigers motivations... . Most of his art comes from his subconsciousness or is inserted into his subconsciousness, no matter what most comes from his dreams. He feared his own art worlds, You dont fear what you design yourself.
Still i like your videos and insights overall.
Man i love Alien.
Well, what did Geiger have to say about all of this?
Outstanding! Is there a full version of this video?
He was possibly a satanist, or dabbled in it even though a brilliant artist
how do you even get yourself to spend hours painting your gf's suicide
back to the ps4 i smell somthing burning
thumbs at the ready
space ape mofos
for the diseased babies would be if in childhood someone went through an extreme thing, it would be like they metaphorically died. And then as they grow up have to relive that death over and over in various ways. the fixation on death and morbidity could be the mind trying to find someway out of the prison it has found itself in.
Also the being born is dying metaphor sounds like also like the nihilist belief that to be born is to suffer, and thus by bringing children in the world you are adding unnecessary suffering.
Also seems like there is a lack of relationships. If no one is alive, no one can really care for each other and it perpetuates that cycle. It is like as the people are also the machines that are surrounding the people make the framework for the environment, which the dead like children cannot escape from.
There is something very negative about how sexuality seems to be expressed. Like the things people do in their lives are no then masturbatory and meaningless possibly ??
at the picture on 4:minutes there are all these figures around the pants especially the ones on the wall/pants itself. it almost like they are guarding the pants. and the human rising out of the semen, unlike the deformed babies has a spirit look to him like he is floating into existence.
actually both the man and woman on the right look more spiritualized while the ones on the left look mentally messed up.
This is talented because it’s far from templates and standards.
A fractal nature of sex n death _la petite mort_ mechanized self realised
_Semi_-pornographic? What more would it take to make it pornographic?
Good ... point.
Actually yes, pornographic would be arousing. Not sure about you, but I find very little arousal from most of his images.
There's a lot of porn I don't find arousing, either.
There's probably something seriously wrong with me, 'cause I do find quite a few of them arousing, haha. Especially the ones with women - he gave them absolute goddess figures and proportions! Those legs, and if also paired with high heels... duhhh :))
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allegedly
I sure he was
Hi.
he died from a """""""fall"""""""""""
Der Todesking !
Giger = Sicko
Hmm I dunno man, you make essentially the same handful of points over and over again in just this 12 minute video, I have a hard time imagining you've got 73 minutes of quality insight to offer on this guy. Not your fault, of course - there really isn't much to be said about Giger's work. Sex, life as machinery, death - that's pretty much the heads and tails of it.
You missed the occultive side of it as did he 👍
@@nicolahenry9718 Go on...
@@jonobrow take a look at his necromancer work on here, read up on masonic symbols you will clock the occultism
@@jonobrow check out beksinski too he was before giger and has very similar occultism but is more landscape and less porny , I see hell or end of days times in their art work , but thats just my opinion
@@nicolahenry9718 Well if you mean the Satanist symbolism then I think Rob does cover it, as it falls under Giger's general polemic against religion/Christianity, and his effort to "deliberately spite religious viewers". At any rate, unless it's something coherently explored throughout Giger's work, rather than just being a few iconographic nods and winks in the odd painting, I don't think it counts as a proper theme in his work.
His mind always fantasizing about Hell , his fantasy is now reality
Lol,hell is a manmade concept meant to keep people in line through fear and control
So you know nothing about h.r. is that what you're saying
Eh. Whatever.