BLUETEC'S: The most overlooked but most important maintenance items!
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- Part numbers for both red silicon intake seals, as well as a CHEAP source for the PCV valve.
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Sir, I just want to say THANK YOU for being so prescient about the PCV issue; When you provided this info hardly anyone was mentioning it which saved me all the trouble that now so many people had the misfortune to endure
A guy that knows his stuff at last.. Thank you!
Thank you for this useful video! I have a newly purchased CLS 320 and was unaware of these issues. Thanks to your video, I will order the parts and thanks for showing how to do the DIY work which means I can do the work myself ensuring its done right.
👍That is absolutely the best explanation of the PCV valve and the problems it can cause, well done sir. Thank you!
Dude definitely overlooked this when I redid my seals!!! You’re the man!
Hi thanks for your very informative tip never taught that such a cheap part can cause excessive oil in the intake thanks
Excellent call! ANY diesel fuel system, particularly this diesel motor just requires an oil/fuel filter system before the fuel enters the fuel induction! The clean diesel fuel is paramount to your long term durability! Also...I just combine a water/fuel separator filter next to the oil bypass filter. It's just far more practical in terms of long term value/costs.
You absolutely right , it’s very important to take a look about that partical component. But next time I would also clean that oil what still left there , because nobody wants fire ( hot engine + Oil) or maybe the connection from the Rail or the copper seal from the Injector is leaking that would be also dangerous.
Thanks for a very informative video
I recently overhauled my om642 but couldn't figure out why the oil level was dropping but i did notice oil around the intercooler pipes
Thanks I was able to change my pcv valve and turbo intake seal before the leak got too bad. Also put on a new egr and my engine has gotten more quite and runs better
Bit of advice as i've just done this job,have a solder bolt at the ready!!U'll get to that later,the large orange seal at the turbo,when you replace it it has little round raised location tabs that fit up into holes in the black plastic air induction plastic,inspect these holes in the air intake carefully for little cracks!!
If the cracks are there melt them clised with a solder bolt,the new orange seal is thicker as it hasn't been compressed like the okd one,if you have any cracks in your black intake that meets the turbo they will spread and crack further when you tighten the jubilee clip at the turbo!
The new seal is difficult to fit over the turbo as it's thicker,it puts a lot of stress on the plastic intake!!Be prepared for damage!
the PCV also works as centrifugal separator. The suction is from the center high up. and the breather vapor is coming in from tangent. So oil is been thrown to the outer edge and drops down from the air. Then it leaks back down to the breather when you let of the throttle.
Great clarification with this video, mate! Thanks heaps.
Excellent video . This gentelmen show you exactly what to do to protect your engine against wearing out so quick .Because borning engine oil will create high temperature , and will melt piston and fuel injectors . If you replace those few dollars pants you save your engine and lots of money for replacing the engine and for mechanic . Excellent . You show us Real engine killer .
Great video! That absolutely helps me to do this maintenance by myself!
My PCV is the same as yours and does not have these zip ties. Can you please share how did you remove the hose from the old valve w/o damaging it?
Thanks, for sure! I just received my new PCV to change the older one.
I saw in your video that you made some repairs in the air inlet, close to the MAF (both sides). I have similar problem in my OM642 (a6420900042). So, please, how do you fixed it?
Excellent, thank you for the info.
Thanks for showing this easy part of servicing…
Great video, thanks for sharing it!
Heck yah! I'm checking for these an 09 GL Bluetech with DEF and 08 E320 Bluetech w/o
I have s211 -07 e320cdi and that oil leak broke my turbo's actuator i think. and i just ordered the PVC valve. Thanks for great tip!
Hi. Great job on these videos. I really appreciate them. I have a 2008 GL320 with about 200K. I rescued it from an abusive situation. I have the swirl flap motor issue and did the resistor fix as a temporary solution, which worked but the vehicle still goes in to limp mode occasionally. Once I restart the engine it’s back in normal mode. I’ve checked the resistor value and it’s fine. I’m thinking the residual oil build up in the connector may be causing a poor connection sometimes. So, I’m debating the swirl flap delete. I also need to change the oil cooler gaskets so I’m following all your instructions on that including the glow plugs. My question is, what is the advantage of NOT deleting the swirl flap motor and instead cleaning everything maniacally, changing the turbo and air intake seals, and then monitoring for any oil leaks ongoing? Thank you. I realize there are no “right” answers but I value your opinion.
Hi, thanks for the videos. I have a 2009 E320 with the crazy side mounted filter housings. Can you show a trick on how to break the flexible air hose inlet to those to make it easier to pull out the housing? The driver side is particularly difficult.
Thank you for the great video!
Thank you very much for this insight!
Right on the money, I got the small oil leak from worn rubber intake seal (orange) and subsequently the PCV valve failed.
Thanks for your tutorial video!
Thank you for the video and the parts info you pass on--saw my bluetec had quite a puddle of oil under it and after putting it up on a lift and investigating, pretty much came to the conclusion it was coming from the oil fill port--only thing I could figure would cause that to happen would be a clogged pcv valve. Parts are ordered--Thanks!
Any tips on getting the intake with the MAF’s to properly seat both air filter boxes? Always seems like it’s made just a tad too short to me and requires a lot of finesse to get it right.
Hi, and thank you for this video!.
How much do you tight that turbo inlet clamp?...is there any torque spec. for the clamps?
I took some 5/8" high temp high pressure rubber hose to a oil catch can circuit then sliced tube between pcv & turbo midway & plumbed it in. turbo inlet very dry now more importantly valley below dry too.
One word of advice... Make sure that the top part of the oil catcher, where it might have or has a sponge, never gets clogged. Otherwise, you will have oil come out of the engine through the dipstick tube or some other place due too much pressure inside of the engine. So, make constantly clean the oil catcher...
Big thank you, video on this fault longer over due,I've deleted my swirl flap motor last year,I'm now having turbo problem i think caused by defect pcv valve
I have a 648 and a 642. The gt2359v was coming apart @ 149k on the 648. I also have to rebuild the gt2056v on the 642 (160k) today.
I believe the actual problem is engine oil quality and change intervals. I have had several 617 cars well over 300k without a worn-out turbo.
I've put on 30k since the rebuild last year (05 e320 cdi) and the car is a rocketship. Zero turbo lag. I'm using amsoil signature series 5w40 diesel (suitable for dpf+def systems).
So far no oil consumption between oil changes.
Hi man, thank you very much for guidance. I have done the job and is all good however when I replaced the main red seal on the plastic air inlet the plastic snapped :(. I have used tape around it for until I find the part. It is so expensive :( around £200. any suggestions
Nice information. Thank you.
thanks for your video. it's very useful.
Does this parts have an equivalency on the W166 ML350? Or this engine (evolution) doesn't use this PCV or Seals? Thanks
Do you have a video on swirl flap delete? I looked on your channel and I can't find it.
What do you think about om651 engine?
How many miles does it take to change these parts? What's the effect of deleting the swirl flap of the throttle?
how much thousan miles interval does it need to be changed?
Does this apply to the E220 and E350 W212 diesel engines too?
04:13 Can you use a lubricant to help place the orange seal back into place over turbo ?, mine was stubborn and would not fully engage. What would you use for that lube please anyone ??
Cheers great info 👍
can you tell me at what mileage should i get this done on my ml350 bluetec 2015
I have a couple 211 diesels.. my 08 has 123,000 miles afther seeing this video I opened up my Bluetech and saw that it was leaking. Thanks for the heads up!
No problem! that's why i'm here.
hey man great content!! I just got a 2013 gl 350d. This has the same motor right? this will be the first thing i check out when it arrives! Are the 350d engines realiable and last long? this one has 100000km
Do you have a video on how to change the swirl flap motor (2014 gl350 bluetec)?
How does one know when the PCV valve needs to be replaced?
Hi i have aW164 and it smokes like crazy , i discover oil on the turbo & the orange seal is torn could those be the cause I need help please
So glad I found your channel!!!!!!!!!!!! 🌟⭐⭐🤩
Could you not cut the hose and use a CCV delete kit and vent to atmosphere and plug the connection at the turbo?
What are the symptoms that the PCV needs replaced?
Hi! How do i know if the PCV valve is failing? Thanks a lot!!
Thanks, very good and useful video
Hi.
I got a 320 cdi v6 3.0 and got a problem with O2 sensor(s) , I replace it with a Bosch one(110£) but my mechanic say me should be 2 like minimum ,we spend 1 h and find just one,after replacement of old O2 sensor errors (was3) disappear but come another error instead P2195 . How to fix this one now??? If someone knows how ti fix it or cause please let me know. Thanks for videos ,really good content
Did you had reprogram ecu for flap motor delete?
Thia was really helpfull! I'm newby with om642!
Thank you for the video,
Did you physically remove swirls or just blocked in open position?
Hey there I have a gl 350 and I’m getting remaining starts count down and codes p2201 and p229f what can I do thanks
Do you recommend w166 from 164 or keep 164
I’m looking at buying a W222 S300 Bluetec. Any thoughts on this motor for maintenance and reliability?
The PCV been faulty, could it cause smoke from the exhaust at tickover?
When I took my air intake going into the turbo off there was oil in there. It was inside the turbo, this isn't normal right? Anyone know? My car only has 75k miles but I want it to last a long time.
Is there a similar part for the 2.1L
Just changed mine. It closed fine when sucking from engine side but I put a Hoover on the turbo side and it did not close. Do you know why? It looked fine inside.
Hi mate,
Would recommend any oil additive like liqui moly CeraTec for this kind of engine?
Thanks in advance
Hi there, I got a gl350 and get this P02CF code, it is idling roughly, like it is misfiring, could that possibly be a vacuum leak?
i just got a 2016 e250 2.1 TT, with 31,000km. When should I do the maintenance?
Hi is it possible that that pressure control valve starts smoking? Just noticest the other day smoke coming from under the hood and when i took a look it give me that impression.
My car smokes on idle not the turbo could this be the issue
Hi
I'm a car mechanic and I need your help! I have a mercedes C350 CDI and there is an oil leak from a hole on the engine block! This hole is situated on the right side of the engine (driver side) near the gear box just above the crankshaft sensor!
If I bock this hole, the oil will start leaking from other sealings such as crankshaft sealing etc. I think there is a pressure being built inside the engine and I can't figure out how and why! Any advice please?
same part fits the cdi ?
Are 2014 E250 bluetec reliable diesel engines? might consider
can a bad PCV couse White smoke?
Hi, how are you? I have a 2008 Mercedes E320 Bluetec diesel. The engine shutting off when drive. I already changed the high pressure fuel pump, fuel injectors, pressure sensor, fuel pump at the tank, intake, turbine actuator. The check engine code is about low pressure. Nobody from Mercedes specialist shops want to see the car. Do you have any idea about this problem? When the car is stopped, the engine never stop. Thank you so much.
Hi great video....I need to replace the oil damaged servo. Do you have a video on this replacement process please?
Do a quick Google search on "om642 intake flap resistor delete". You dont have to replace it, you can just delete that motor and put a resistor in the electrical connector to prevent check engine lights.
And can you do a video on replacing the fuel filter on the OM642? I want to do it but looking down at the engine it looks just jammed in and other stuff thrown around it. (The last fuel filter I replaced was on my 87 300SDL!)
When the time comes to do a fuel filter replacement on one of my 2 om642 vehicles, I absolutely will! It's a pretty easy job, just loosen the Alan head screw that tightens the hold down clamps for the filter and it slides right out!
Good morning, can you please help me, I have a MERCEDES GLE 350 D 2017 Engine 642 826 is the same care required, is the PCV valve system the same as in previous engines? thank you very much for your time
Does the PCV affect your EGR valve ?
Well done - unfortunately I found you too late as I ened up having issues and had to replace what you outlined, all after the fact. Are there other maintenance items you recommedn? I have a 2007 E320 Bluetec with 105K miles on it. Simply love the car and considering it's worth basically nothing in the marketplace , it's worth a lot more to me and worth keeping in great shape. If you cover what I'm asking in prior videos, I'll find them.
You never showed how you replaced the gaskets and where the second (smaller) gasket goes... Is it the one at 3:55? Or do these 2 red gaskets go together somehow in the same place?
I'm sorry, it might be self explanatory for some but I'm as dumb as it gets when it comes to any mechanical stuff.
For gle350 it.s necesary?🤔
Does the newer version of PCV valve (Aluminum one with 2 bolts)work on the same principle and do you know does it have the same problem happening
Yes it does work on the same principal... And yes it does leak oil with time and needs to be replaced.
This is the reason why Mercedes requires a 229.51 oil for the diesel engines that have DPF systems. The 229.51 is a low Ash/Soot oil, which means that when it burns it has far less parts per million emitted vs regular oils. Most of the oil used by modern engines is used through the crankcase ventilation system, due to the fact that vacuum/suction of the engine is used to ventilate the crankcase of the engine. On older engines no vacuum/suction was used for ventilation.
Thank you for the video. Will this part fit also 2012 S350? According to EPC correct part# for S350 is 6420102491 which include hose and it is double the price. I would prefer to keep original hose and replace only the valve if possible. Thank you.
The CCV part shown in this video WILL NOT fit a 2012 OM642 engine. Mercedes updated the design in 2011+ OM642 diesel engines.
Thanks for your advice to becareful with this components. How do you know the PCV must be replaced? or just a preventive action? Should I also change the breather hose?
BTW, I change these orange turbo seals everytime I change diesel filter, and I buy them at the MB service.
It is more of a preventive action... Just make sure that you don't buy it from the dealer, it will cost you an arm and a leg. You can buy it genuine or OEM online for a lot less.
I'll give you a real example, RBM of Atlanta Georgia, wanted a $1000 for a 220 amps alternator for a 2013 Mercedes Sprinter, while Rock Auto sells it online OEM (Valeo 220 amps new) for $380. Same exact part $ 600+ less than the dealership.
Dimitriy Perchik hi! Do you your channel on CZcams? Looking to get some info for my 2014 gl350 blue tech
Hi my long turn sub you’re mom told me about you’re CZcams channel keep up the good work
Para que es esa pieza????
good to know
hey, I have a 2009 ml320 3.0v6...I want to order the pcv valve however the website doesnt cover my year model. is it the same one? i can only see a small part of it since its covered with some bracket that holds connectors on top of it. it's made out of black plastic from the small portion I can see. what do you think?
Post the last 8 digits of the VIN number and I can tell you which one to buy if you already haven't bought it...
Great video and very useful . The only problem is the Vaico pcv valve you used , for this engine Only use original mercedes pcv valve. your oil consumption will be minimum . When i replaced mine first with Vaico i had to top up 1L of oil after only 2000 km and and then when replaced with original part from mercedes no oil top up needed between services .
@Adi Teo, Hi as I. own w164 OM642 engine, wondered how much. does it. cost in. MB this PCV?
@@dobbislavov2983 Hi
Last year I purchased mine for approximately 130£
Vaico was approximately 25£
@@aditeo78, thank you for the quickest response. I think to call MB to check and order. Have a safe ride! Kind regards DS
We are considering getting a 2008 e320 bluetec is it something you would recommend or should we go with the gas counterpart?
the Diesel engine is hard to beat in terms of reliability, fuel economy, and power - if maintained properly. The biggest thing you'll need to worry about with the 2008 diesels is the DPF filter clogging or not regenerating - I don't believe the e320 has the adblue system. There are a few "Delete" options you can explore, but we haven't had any issues with our 3.0L sprinters we use for our delivery company - you can force DPF regen using tools like the iCarsoft MB2 via OBD
@MBDieselFreak hey, could you please confirm if this the upgraded version: 6420940480 and 6420940580? Mine is a 08 w221 s320cdi OM642930.I appreciate your help
Hi, im wondering how do you know a part its been upgraded? Im looking for this excat valve, but i dont want to buy an olfer versión.
I have a 09 e320 bluetec with 83k miles, I'm going to do these repairs. This video is very helpful. You have 3 parts listed I need all 3?
Hi, I have the same car, same mileage. Had you had any fault codes? My E320 went into limp mode, and had 2 fault codes in November. After taking it to a shop, they replaced fuel filter, and checked for leaks, they claimed my fuel line was full of soot! It had to be cleaned manually. They replaced or so the receipt states the EGR cooler kit/seals and gaskets. I was charged half the value of my car! And I’ve taken it back 2 more times due to check engine light and limp mode, basically the same reason I took it to them in the first place. Last time they had my car 5 1/2 weeks, and replaced the turbo actuator at no charge,but it still wasn’t fixed. The manager told me it’s probably the DPF filter is probably clogged, but they are equipped to clean it. The mileage has improved, but still goes into limp mode. Latest code was P0299. That’s the first time I’ve had that one. Any ideas? I love my car, but I can’t keep spending thousands on it.
Thanks for the video, is this applicable to 2014 gl350 bluetec x166 om642 ? Do you recommend any oil catch can for this model ?
It would work fine for the updated om642 (2009+) as well, provided the oil seperator p# is the same.
Oil catch can is always a good idea if it's installed properly, as it prevents oil vapor from entering the intake (the main reason for gummed up intakes)
@@MBDieselFreak I have wondered about this issue for some time. In the old diesels used in the 123 series cars (owned a '81 240d for 26 years... remained very much like new the entire time with maintenance) and my very elderly mom (now) having her 1985 5cly. turbo diesel coup still, local dealer keeps saying its basically new looking). Anyway, in both those cars which I have done the routine maintenance on (dealer has to do some things I don't have tools for). Never did the oil in the inlet, which exists all the time in higher volumes than the OM642 engine could tolerate, ever gum up or coke. In fact, there was no problem. I have spoken to some friends who have worked for diesel engine manufacturers in the engineering and test labs as engineers... not a problem in diesels, is the comment. In fact Bob ran the entire AirResearch test facility for nearing 20 years, and they did the development of the 5 cylinder turbo diesel under contract for DB / MB. The only issue Bob reported was getting the engines through the 1000 hr. full power durability test on the dyno. Why was valve recession. The German engineers felt the std. ductile iron valve seats were more durable in actual road use. However, when you run an engine at max power for long periods the valves tend to recede. The routine maintenance of valve lash does not work in those extreme conditions of power and duration. He would sneak in hard seats in those engines so they would not have cam/lifter surface failures and valve issues such as burned valves, due to inadequate cooling.
How that relates here is that one wonders why these engines have gum up problems of intake system. Well they have a very high rate of EGR flow at certain points in performance cycle. This at low engine speeds and in stop and go driving puts upwards of 50% of the inlet air is recirculated (but cooled) exhaust gas. So why the EGR gas to ambient air cooler is lower than the intake manifold and intake charge valves. So it would seem logical that would gum up first as oil would end up there. Apparently, that is not an actual settling area and the oil mist must be heating up to the point to cause the oil vapor / minute droplets to be thickened and coalesce on the inlet surfaces. But if the cooler is working why would not it keep the temperature down from the EGR flow?
I appreciate your video and hope you can provide some possible insight to a problem that I'm trying to narrow down. My 2011 MB Sprinter 3.0 diesel has a noticeable engine speed fluctuation while holding a steady throttle. It typically begins anywhere above 2000 rpm. This is a very rhythmic and consistent surge or fluctuation. This occurs when parked and not in motion, or when I was driving at 30 mph or any other speed. There are no apparent codes that come up. We've traced all possible sources, including getting the ECU retuned, replacing the turbo and the actuator. Any idea if these could be causing this surge?
What was the solution? I have a similar problem
Have you replaced the Map sensor? I was chasing something weird like that. I initially thought it was Turbo. Decided the Map sensor was a cheaper shot in the dark, all the problems went away. Mpg is back. Runs the way it should.
@@bryceweaver8211 I don't believe it was checked or replaced, and will give that a try! Thanks!
Hi Man. Did you actualy used recistor 4.7kohm to delay your swirl flaps??
Software
How Often do you recommend changing the PVC?
every 2 years.
How about OM651 ?
How did you delete the EGR and the Intake Swirl Motor? Doesn't the ECU check for it and show a CEL when its missing?
I didnt delete the EGR, the Intake flap motor can be deleted with a "resistor trick". check my om642 oil cooler seals video on how to do that resistor trick.
He didn't delete anything. He simply tricked the ECU. There is no way to completely delete the EGR, as example. We call it a "EGR delete", but in reality what is done by tuners, is a remap of the operational programming of the EGR. The EGR is reprogrammed to stays closed at any RPMs or operational range of the engine. That is the same with the intake manifold flaps, they stay open at any operational ranges of the engine. DPF/ DEF and Lambda requires remap and delete of the DTC trouble codes, which simply means that the check engine light will never come on if you disconnect a Nox sensor as an example, because there is no code for that since it's been erased from the memory of the ECU.
It is very easy to do modifications on EDC16 ECUs. EDC17 ECUs are a lot more complicated due to the encryption of the tricore chips/processors used in them.
How did you delete the swirl flap motor?
What vehicle?