"Rio never showed his real talent" | Hoddle wanted Ferdinand to be his Beckenbauer
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2020
- Glenn Hoddle and Harry Redknapp shared their memories of working with a young Rio Ferdinand, considering what he may have been able to do if playing within a different tactical set-up.
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Could listen to these two talk all day
Ive heard quite a few ex-players and managers say that England could have really got somewhere with Hoddle had they stuck with him.
Yeah I remember someone, it might have been Ian Wright, that said in training he was still the best player as well! Judging on the 98 World Cup I don't think there's any doubt we'd have gone close in the following years. If he'd been the job for some time he'd have got the best out of so many of the individual talents we had then. We wouldn't have had the whole Gerrard/Lampard thing and he'd have had the team picked around Scholes too I'd have thought.
Should have kept his mouth shut about his daft opinions shouldn't he, not that I can stand any of the fa
Glenn could be difficult. People forget he never really achieved anything.
We DREW with Italy but that was considered success.
We LOST to Argentina but everyone remembers the Owen goal
I don't recall any really great performances when it mattered .
However the players loved him so 🤷🏻♂️
@@mattmid7012 we lost to Romania u clown
@@carlwoods7768 and? That side had Hagi, Petrescu, Muntenau and so on, not as if they were crap is it? They got knocked out 1-0 by a very good Croatia team who went on to beat a top Dutch side including Bergkamp, Seedorf, Davids, Van der Sar, Kleivert and Stam to finish third. Not as if we lost to Andorra is it?
Great shame that Glenn Hoddle didn’t continue as England manager. Having watched all England managers since Sir Alf Ramsey. Hoddle was the best England manager of the last 50 years. Innovative. A real student of the game, with a great philosophy about how football should be played. With Ferdinand playing in a 3, it would have revolutionised not only the England team, but also English football.
Last time England strung 4 decent passes together was under Hoddle.
Rio was the best defender in the Prem for years. Easily would have got into Barcelona or any other great team in his pomp.
Ferdinand was a good defender, not a great one. Nowhere near the likes of Nesta or Cannavaro. English football has the tendency to vastly overestimate their domestic players and ask themselves why it doesn't work out for them on the Euro and- Word Cup stage.
@@alluvialedaempfer962 Speaking truth. Rio was a very good defender, but he stopped being the best at United as soon as they finally started winning again. Vidic was the better player...though everybody in England just can't see it, even all these years later
Never rated him. He constantly had to be covered and protected by Stam etc.... Ferdinand renowned for making mistake after mistake after mistake. Gormless, quick to blame others. Vidic and stam and Irwin and Neville n Bruce n pallister were levels above Rio calamity Ferdinand.
I always wanted rednapp as England manager when he left spurs after his good spell . Harry's the type of guy who can get the players working for him .
Shame that when he was linked with the England job Tottenhams form dropped Harry would of won a cup at least
Glenn hoddle was such a better manager than Sven-Goran Erickson.
Well obviously
@@MohamedShou hahah so true. I’m just the classic England fan who thinks we would have won a major tournament but got screwed due to a stupid circumstance. This is therapy for me 😂
@@cweeks4504 no youve jyst never had a team good enough. Simple really
@@getsbuckets in my opinion, 1996 and 1990 were good enough. Penalties are luck
@@cweeks4504 in 1996 only if gazzas leg had stretched a little too far or just on time for tap in... History wohld have been different ...would have beaten Czechs in the final for sure.
If Glenn Hoddle would have inherited the golden generation England would have been contenders for a trophy. He was a tactical master, and had the Italians in his pocket, out-playing them, when we played them on a few occassions - when the Italians were a good team. Instead Hoddle was set-up by a scab judas journalist - taking what he said out of context and who only cared about a few minutes of fame and furthering his journalist career instead of the progress of Hoddle's England team. The result was we went backwards under Erickson - they were Ferdinands words - Ferdinand also said Hoddle was ahead of his time. Hoddle was also one of the best philsophical footballers England has ever produced.
I think in 04 you’re absolutely right. In 06 semis sounds reasonable and maybe with a bit of luck they could have made a run at the final.
I think the 2002 the team did as good as they could have done regardless of the manager. England was the only team that put somewhat of a fight against Brazil. Brazil was simply the best that year and England was #2
@@cweeks4504 that is why England had they beaten Nigeria would have topped the group and avoided Brazil... Atleast till the semis ... And who knows.. Turkey were unlucky in the semis.. They had more chances.. Brazil best team no doubt but played cautiously and. Ronaldo took matters in his own hands.. To settle it..
He only drew with Italy lol
@@DonWan47 no dude he beat italy twice, convincingly, and drew once, in italy, and italy were very lucky to draw as england were much the better team.
@@DonWan47 na dude, he beat them and drew with them 'in italy' lol
Yes it is a shame. Hoddle had keys to unlock big teams. Who knows how far his England team would've got
I’d pay to listen to Harry Redknapps football stories 😊
Class act isn’t he
Dont say that!!!
@@jacobwalters5341 does he still make bank accounts in false names?
@@pembomassive1394 ah hush up
@@pembomassive1394 😂
Rio was phenomenal. One of the very best players I’ve ever seen in the flesh. Had the lot.
@@HeyButWhy L
Hoddle is probably the best passer of the ball who ever lived. The amount of times he would catch a goal kick from the keeper off the volley and get an assist. As soon as the ball touched his foot he could play a perfect pass. There's never been a player who can do that.
Brilliant video showcasing that here czcams.com/video/wdwesPS0vgg/video.html Those who never saw him, watch that and tell me which foot is his best.
Yes Absolutely, Glenn Hoddle Was A Football Genius, My Great Grand Dad Spurs And Glasgow Rangers Fan Said Glenn Hoddle Was The Best Ever Player He Ever Seen Play Football, My Great Grandad Loved Glenn Hoddle,
@@HeyButWhy Hoddle was a way better passer than Messi but obviously Messi is one of the top 5 players of all time in all round skill and ability!
I remember when Rio started at United. He would effortlessly glide into midfield. Was told by SAF that didn’t want him playing football midfield. Had to give it to midfield players.
Matthias Sammer did that for Germany in euro96.
Sammer was great. 1996 euros. Wow. Wouldn't say Ferdinand was ever on that level
For some reason, i feel like England should've given Harry Redknapp a chance. I remember his spurs team with David Bentley, Luka Modric, etc. I think that was the revival of spurs in the modern era. He started it. The team was playing attractive attacking football, created many chances, challenged the big sides often. He might not be a coach who deploys complex systems like Guardiola or Klopp but he is top in the list of the basic system coaches. What I'm saying is Harry has a thing with coaching talented players and getting the best out of them something most england managers fail at. It's like they get brain buzzed on who to pick who to leave. Harry is always focused on attacking play, he is a risk taker. He'll put the best 11 out there, let them express themselves and put in a formation that favors them. He is bold af!
Hoddle was the greatest manager for England. He would have got Scholes, Lamps and Gerrard playing together.
Just like he got Gascoigne playing with Scholes?
@@ralph9182 if Gazza behaved, then yeah. English managers are old fashioned. Hoddle was forward thinking and innovative.
@@t.bozmkw3562 Alf Ramsey was the greatest manager for England. He won the World Cup.
Hoddle was a dreadful man manager. The way he treated Gazza was appalling. Sending him home from the World Cup and keeping Rob Lee. In 1998 Beckham didn’t start until the Columbia game and Hoddle also said Michael Owen wasn’t a ‘natural goalscorer’ !!??
@@jiminycrint rob lee had a better season. is he meant to pick an unprofessional alco cause he scored a good goal against Scotland 2 years earlier
@@ralph9182 Or he'd have left one out to fit the system.
Like Italy left out one of Totti and Del Piero.
It's a shame that no PL club targets Glenn Hoddle for their chief coach role . I was hoping Levy would consider bringing him back to Spurs for another go at the job .
Don’t think he wants to especially after the heart problems
"As England manager you're leasing the cars, you don't own them"; not a bad analogy from Hoddle that.
Hoddle is bit mad but he knows football. I wouldn’t trust him as my mp but I’d want him as my football manager haha
@@cweeks4504 I'd trust him over ANY MP. Have you been in a coma for the last 8 months or so?
@@cweeks4504 Not so sure about Kidknapp though.
@@MisAnnThorpe haha fair enough. I think of Southgate as more of politician then hoddle
@@cweeks4504 Southgate's more P.C. than my computer.
Glenn Hoddle Wood Have Won A Tournament, With England As Manager,
They never should have sacked Terry Venables and then Glenn Hoddle. Rio Ferdinand could have been the modern day libero.
Glenn was a brilliant England manager.
Rio was a Rolls Royce of defenders
Sven said the same about Rio that he was the best player in the England team. Hoddle shouldn't of been sacked just told to shut his mouth
Didn't Ferdinand say recently that Sven wouldn't let him bring the ball out from the back?
@@mattmid7012 As far as I am aware, Rio said that more than once. If he did, he would be dropped.
I’d still be happy if Glenn became manager for England now! Gareth has done brilliant but the final showed he is not a winner and he’s took em as far as he can
I watched Rio play centre mid against wolves in the fa cup he was decent to be fair
The title is a tad misleading
Riiight? I picked it feeling bare vexed that they won't put respect on man-like Rio's name, only to spend 9 minutes listening to them heap praises on him
Clickbait...
There is no doubt in my mind if Hoddle was England manager for the crossover of the 90s team to the golden generation we would of won more than 1 cup. Playing good football as well.
No chance
Brazil team of 2002 too good maybe a euros
@@ismailmiah1446 That brazil team was unreal! We actually almost done them with Sven though. Defiantly a chance in 00, 04,06,08,10,12 if he was around that long
@@ActiveArron it's not fact we didn't win it's how we played that's disappointing. ...winning trophies hard but at least go out in style
Hard to think Rio Ferdinand never made the Euro 2000 squad.
I was 17 in the summer France 98', beers at mine with mates watching Owen score that beauty against Argentina. And then the red card.
Memories
I was 7 and went to bed in tears 😂
@@Siteus1 😆
Impressive he seems to hold no grudge. Suppose time's a great healer. Unlike Eileen Drewery.
Ray Parlour got sent in to Eileen Drewery when he had a calf strain. Said she put her hands on his head so he asked for a short back and sides. Boom, out the world cup squad. Hahahahaha.
@@jamiestewart48 He ended up getting a Short Shrift ! !
What is glen talking about. Champions league, multiple epl titles and wiv Vidic held and I think he still holds longest consecutive clean sheet record in epl.
Wasn't Glenn Hoddle who left Matt Le Tissier out of the world cup squad?
Yes.
Yes, because Le Tiss although a great player was a fat, lazy unmotivated conundrum who couldn't be relied upon!
Southgate would love to have a Ferdinand right about now.
Yeah our defence is definitely lacking a world class player or 2
One of the many mismanagements of the golden generation
"Loafer" matthaus lol
best english centre half in my lifetime and I am 42
It's a shame Hoddle didn't stand by his appreciation for Le Tissier and give him more caps. Wasted genius.
Wish United had Martin Edwards now!!
Redknapp with Hoddle as assistant for euros, get rid of the stiff waistcoat
@@HeyButWhy yeah because shithouse is doing a stellar job with our young talent
Glenn would of done wonders with the “golden generation”. Would of been Scholes ahead of lampard and gerrard none of this who and where should we play them.
I know it don’t matter but could of won something with Glenn.
If only he didn’t share his own religious beliefs!
The FA could have handled it a lot better. They didn't necessarily have to fire him. He could have come out and apologised for offending some people. He's essentially a Hindu that believes in reincarnation. Seems like quite a spiritual guy overall. Certainly ten times the manager the likes of Sven, Mclaren and Southgate are.
Rightly so. Scholes was the best midfielder England had since Gazza.
@@t.bozmkw3562 probably better than Gazza tbh
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 i'm not a Utd fan but appreciate quality ballers. Scholes was amazing.
Instead of giving the job to erikksson, they should have stick with hoddle, he saw the players like scholes,Rio,terry, owen from a young age could have nurtured them well
Sven was after keegan not hoddle
He was a decent player but too actually mention Ferdinand with the three Germans is stretching It a bit , I'd have said Nemanja Vidic did more to make Rio look a better player than anyone.
Rio did alright at Utd....i reckon
Rio Ferdinand, one of the most overated players. It said it all when Ferguson said we've spent £29 million on a guy with 'great potential'
Bobby Moore played in a back four.
Yes 3-5-2 wasn't really used as a formation in the 60s, it gained popularity after Argentina used it successfully in the 80s
@@JevansUK Cool, thanks. I was just making the point that Hoddle said Ferdinand didn't get to play in a back three, but that he was Bobby Moorish (who didn't play in a back three either). But I get his point.
Tony Blair ended Glen Hoddle.
Huh, Rio wasn't world class? Since when. Why do you guys hate your legends so much, Rio was up there with the best Cb's in the world at his peak, him and Vidic were monsters. England had average management for years, his idea for a back 3 is brilliant cause it solves England's lm problem, cm's problem and allows for playing two strikers in a 352 or 532, this current generation is good as well but lacks world class Cb' s but beats the Golden generation that never knew what a good goalie looked like.
@@HeyButWhy different defenders play differently, Ramos has more goals than Maldini is he then better him?, Ramos takes penalties and freekicks for club and country aswell, I understand that Woodgate was an amazing player but that doesn't mean Rio was bad, wasn't he the captain of Leeds at one point when played with Campbell if am not mistaken , Let's not hate on our legends is what am basically saying I've rarely seen this much negative commentary with other national teams, Rio celebrates a goal cause his happy it's simple we shouldn't over analyse it. On who was the better defender it depends on who you love more, I loved Rio, Puyol, Vidic,Maldini and Cannavaro. Rio was a beauty to watch on the ball and I loved that.
Rio never showed his real talent ?
Apart from 455 appearances for the United scored eight goals, winning six Premier League titles, one European Cup, a FIFA Club World Cup and two League Cups.
Ye proper under achiever Glenn 🤣🤣🤣🙌🏻
Can't believe you included his 8 goals hahaha
@@someonereal7580 6 more than Garry Neville
@@Nikboyle how about jt? Zouma probably had more goals already lol.
@@someonereal7580 terry scored 41 goals and 12 assists ! Pretty good for a defender
@@Nikboyle cor blimes your the stat man lol. Why Rio over jt if that is your stance?
the best thing harry was good at was relegating teams
Harry Houdini! He was good at dodging the tax man
@@MichaelWilliams-fd7nj 🤣
I remember when harry kewell mugged him in that game against Australia. He was overrated.
We got rid of a class coach like Hoddle and ended up with the con man that is Sven
Becken Bower
Rio Ferdinand was the best defender the premier league has seen and the best centre half the world has seen except for Baresi and Beckenbauer.
Ridiculous talent who's not appreciated enough.
This seems to always be the issue though, generational talent not utilized the way they should be and/or forced to conform to some sort of role that actually limits their God-given ability. It's happening now look at Grealish maybe what really needs to change is the profile of manager. Southgate is great for U21 but in terms of coaching great players and systems, he's not it.
Oh dear, the mistakes England made with their managers and players.
The FA full of stuffed shirts.
Glenn had the potential to be a great manager but his climb to the top level perhaps happened too quick. He made mistakes that he could not afford that established great managers could. Getting rid of Parlour for the reasons he did wasn’t justifiable. Had Ferguson done it would have been acceptable. Hoddle ultimately lost his England job with the comments he made. Had Fergie done this he would not have been fired.
Hoddle n venables football made England look sexy , all the afters included Gareth "the bore " Southgate made/make England look like a joke
Maybe Hoddle could have got the best out of him if he wasn’t so focused on the sins of disabled people. Still don’t know how he was able to concentrate with so many “sinners” around the pitch. He’s an absolute disgrace. He has no place on TV or any other platform today.
Are you disabled? Or just offended on the behalf of others?
@@cockoffgewgle4993 Well, you're obviously offended on behalf of Hoddle, so what's your point?
Rio Ferdinard Was Way Overrated, I Rest My Case,
Can't compete with those levels of research and statistics. Case closed.
Absolutely. I saw him so many times being taken to the cleaners by some world class players.
Glen Hoddle was the worse English Coach.
The title is a tad misleading