A false 9 is "false" because he starts in the 9 (ST) position who drops back and plays as a 10(AM), false because he isnt playing the usual role of the position. Out of possession, he usually occupies the strikers area but his positioning shifts in possession.
You don't have to apologize for that Muhammad Ali comparison, it is actually spot on, the fundamental goal of tiki taka is to tire out the opposition, not so different from what Ali used to do.
Its actually very fun watching people who have a tactical mindset while watching sports discovering football and not just seeing it based on the overall entertainment value that it gives to a casual viewer. It takes a veery long time for casual viewers usually to realize that the game is about 90 minutes and that stamina and individual qualities of players play a huge role into how the sport is played which you tapped into even in this video which is many months old by this point.
One thing that is frequently neglected when it comes to Barcelona is that they conspired with Real to choke off funding to the rest of La Liga. The domestic distribution of TV money meant that Barca and Real had about 3 times about much money from TV as even the 3rd or 4th place team, and about 10 times as much as the bottom half teams. They had the biggest budgets in Europe and would frequently try to buy the biggest players from around the leagues. Their tactics were part of the performance, but the economic imbalance was massively influential too. If you want to learn how and why the traditional numbers are like what they are, Jonathan Wilson's book "Inverting The Pyramid" takes you all the way from the starting formations (which was 2-3-5), and you'll see where the numbers started to where they ended up being.
Said it on the OG post on MCkinneys channel. In sportsteams you have around 1 hall of fame class players per generation. That Barca era team had hall of fame players on every position that played glorious football every week playing with the oponents. Its quite hard as a Barcelonafan though when you were SO spoiled back then and have to cope with todays meidocre team.
That’s what makes me sad as a Liverpool fan. I’ve been following Liverpool since the times Torres and Kuyt joined in 2006. We never had dominance like we have had under Klopp, and now he is leaving 😭. But bad times make the good times even better, trust me.
Yay tactics video, sadly its an old one. Hoping for more! I would love to see you try to swim at the deep end with a harvey gration or a 4-4-2 analysis of a specific match, preferably 1 that you've watched and then see what was cooking on the pitch.
Also to add onto 13:20, after the 3-4-3 is used in the build-up phase, pep (and often other coaches) transition to typically either a 3-2-5 or 2-3-5 in the opposition half to help the offensive threat. Just something cool to notice since you guys seemed interested in mid-game formation changes as well And for recycling play to the back line after getting possession again, I think it’s typically done to suck the opposition backline away from their goal and towards yours. I think for teams like Pep’s it’s a lot more valid since the other side will likely play with a lot more respect (Man City, Barcelona) so these tactics make it easier to attack the space in behind afterwards. To add on to this, a good ball behind to unlock an attacker will often lead to the defenders being on the back foot and not able to defend optimally (you typically want to face the attacker head on rather than in a foot race since it’s a lot easier to tackle legally that way) My first video I watched from your channel was also with Corey so it was great seeing your guys’ journey since then. Keep at it man!
Enjoyed the gegenpress talk. Some teams would pick and choose their moments about when to trigger it. Presumably so they don't tire themselves out too quickly. The Republic of Ireland side under Jack Charlton, whilst having a route one style, would implement pressing as part of their tactic. I remember one of their players, Andy Townsend, saying that the heat of the US in 1994 would tire them out and negated their press somewhat because if the entire team doesn't engage with the press then it sort of falls apart.
It's not about passing back every time you win the ball it's all about keeping possession of the ball, so if the best option is to pass backwards then that's what they do.
Your rope a dope analogy is pretty spot on. With the short tiki-taka passing teams would try to close down on Barcelona and tire themselves out. The ball was only a few meters away from them so should be easy to close down right? And when they were getting a bit gassed barca would play some more risky forward combinations, and ofcourse with prime Messi a lot of goals followed. It took a couple of years for opponents to just sit back and let Barcelona do their thing until they arrived at the box (Atletico style).
A tip for when you really want to focus on tactics: Try watching games with only one camera from behind the goal (essentialy Madden cam style). It's some times called "strategic view" or something like that and sadly, it is hard to find most of the time. But some channels offer it and it is really nice to see the work the players do while not having the ball. Also the formations are way more obvious that way. It is however a little less exciting since you feel a bit more distant to the players and the action around the ball than in normal broadcasts. PS: I wish this kind of camera view would be more accessable in the NFL as well. You rarely get to see the routes of players that are away from the ball.
Luke i think you are doing really well on learning football I just wanted to say soon you should start checking out some lower league football like the championship or league one i think it could be something your interested in
@@lukessportsacademy Not yet … it’s getting tight. Top 3 go up automatically. Wrexham in 3rd. 2 points ahead with a game in hand. Only 5 matches remaining.
First Stockport is 4 ahead with game in hand and we play them on final day. Second Mansfield is on same points with game in hand. Wrexham can still win league if they go on a run.
The reason i'm not into American football is because no one can get relegated or promoted, there is nothing on the line. No disrespect to the actual sport! I have watched a few Super Bowls, it is a very good show and the athletes are some next level human beings. I feel like they just regulate who is going to win, so everyone is content. If i'm wrong, my bad!
The thing with gegenpressing is that it sacrifices control for the oportunity to shoot. When you get the ball back with gegenpress the players need to deal with the imediate situation on the pitch and positions they're in, and it demands a higher level of adaptability, whereas Guardiola's tactic, although not that flashy, garantees a much higher level of control beyond just posession, making the next chance they create much more dangerous than a found oportunity by gegenpressing.
Took me a while to realize this. I think now I appreciate Guardiola’s philosophy even more than I did at the time this was recorded. Pep has a press as well, it doesn’t make sense to combine a gegenpress with a possession philosophy.
I disagree with that last statement. Chances created from gegenpressing leave the opponent out of possition and most of the time outnumbered in their defense. Where Guadiola's team tries to find openings by passing, but the defensive numbers are still there. But you give up some control of the game indeed.
The other difference is, the way you press and the goal of your pressing needs to inform your offense. Like, if you are a "positional team" you'll rarely be in position to gegenpress to the same effect of a Klopp's team, Liverpool rutinely "sacrifice" spacing in its offense to gather more players around the same area and have them ready to press if the attack fails. Guardiola's Ideal game has him having 95% ball possession achieved through dominance on the ball, Klopp's Ideal Is averaging 95% possessione because the opposing team resorted to sweep the ball away anytime they manager to stop an attack.
To play tik-taka you pretty much MUST to be much better than everyone else you are mostly competing. Sure it works on barcelona, but if you ever try this style on an "average" team of a league, it will mostly likely struggle to work, unless their players really fits this style.
One more thing to factor in that was in that barca team most of their players were small and didn’t have much physicality so tiki taka for them was something they have to use as an advantage to bcuz they were at a physical disadvantage they didn’t cross aerial balls or played too many long balls… xavi,Messi,ineista,Pedro,alba,villa, Sanchez etc most of the players were short/small
It’s in my contact creation plan! My only problem right now is not really having the capacity or equipment to make that series happen. And I don’t want to do subpar gaming content. But in the near future, as the Channel grows, I would expect to do a series on football manager.
Watching this video and you guys talking about pressing makes me think you should react to "press resistant" players like Moussa Dembele, Frenkie De Jong etc... if you haven't already. These types of game breaking players allow teams to play riskier with their passing and dribbling
From my understanding, usually positions number in football tactics in 4-3-3 is : 1. Goalkeeper 2. Right back 3. Left back 4. Right center back 5. Left center back 6. Defense midfield 8. Center midfield 10. attacking midfield 7. Right attacking foward 11. Left attacking foward 9. Striker/center forward, this part particular numbering generally used in when mentioning role or position for easy to understand, like when people say number six player is the defensive minded midfield player, and number 8 is box to box midfield player, this number were used for number in jersey/kit to labeling the regular player, the smaller the number in Jersey/kit its mean he is the regularly played in the position, its not mandatory just for make it easy, but in some player number can be mandatory clause, like when player use the number 7, 10 or 9 is most likely he is the star of the team like CR7 in madrid or any elite strikers to shown his status in the club, fun fact there were a some myth at number like in Chelsea FC they have "Cursed Number 9". (sorry for my bad English)
That's one possible, very attack-minded formation ... only aggressive teams with VERY athletic defenders employ such a system If you have 3 aggressive forward players, then your midfield is likely to be dominated by your opponent, who may be playing a 4-5-1 .. or 5-4-1 (to counter your 3 attackers) A direct style of football is usually the best - where you bypass the midfield entirely, and boot the ball forwards for your numerous attackers to get onto it, and pressurise their defence into making errors, or conceding fouls and corners. (the "high press") [alternatively - your "Andy Robertson" wing-back becomes an integral part of the attack] If you don't have athletic players, then you risk being demolished on the counter-attack playing the 4-3-3 When it works - like with Liverpool - it's exciting and amazing! But you WILL leak goals ... but you rely on your attacking strategy to correct that .. which an elite swashbuckling team like Liverpool does brilliantly, often coming from behind and winning games It's a daring strategy - which, if it works - will see your team 2 points clear at the top of the league, with only 8 games remaining ,,, But if your team is full of has-been old farts, then you should NEVER play the 4-3-3 ... you'll get relegated
If you want to know the origins of the numbers, I highly recommend "Inverting The Pyramid"by Jonathan Wilson which is the more or less complete history of football and the tactical evolutions. The first formation was 2-3-5, made up of: 1. GK 2. Left Fullback 3. Right Fullback 4. Left Centre half (which was the archaic name for midfield, but for reasons you'll see in the book, it's still used for central defenders in the UK) 5. Middle Centre Half 6. Right Centre Half 7. Left Wing or Outside Forward 8. Left Inside Forward 9. Centre Forward 10. Right Inside Forward 11. Right Wing (or Outside Forward) Over the years, various small adjustments were made, but the numbers didn't change so when the WM formation happened, the shirts would line up something like (for front to back) 7-9-11 8-10 4-5 2-6-3
I think Pep likes to recycle possession to maintain control. He wants the team to move to the opposition's half with a good structure(structure and organisation are key in defending) and maintain it when defending or handling transitions. If you win the ball and attack immediately you are now the one at risk of losing possession and being open to a counterattack because your team's shape isn't organized. A perfect example of this is Manchester United this season(I'm a United fan). They press to create chances but almost always mess it up and allow the other team to counterattack. Their games are chaotic and have been described as tennis matches.
Tiki-taka is a really great playing style if you have the proper players who can pass the ball well and make perfect runs. It's a style in which the passing and off ball movement is done in such a way that the opponent will be ending up chasing shadows and it's truly a sight to behold. The only flaw in tiki-taka is that you need very talented world class players for executing it, any average or low iq players cannot execute tiki taka that's why most of the footballers rely on quick counter attack.
I think with Man City, you might be missing a key detail. Yes, they play a lot more conservatively than teams like Liverpool but they don’t always recycle the ball. If they can win the ball back on the edge of the box, they will quickly assess where the defence is in position or whether they can get a chance away. For example, have a look at Phil Foden’s hattrick sealing goal against Aston Villa this week (03/04/24). He loses the ball on the edge of the box, goes down, gets up, wins it back, and scores a screamer. In his split second of winning the ball back, he’s got three options: shoot, play it wide to work an angle, or reset the play by playing back to a midfielder/ defender. 9 times out of 10 it’ll be the second or third options, but not always. One of the key points to this is how teams set up against Man City and Liverpool. Teams tend to leave themselves slightly more open against Liverpool because Liverpool like to play ‘chaotic’ football, where there’s not so much build up play but more focuses on counter-attacking or winning the ball back high up the pitch. Teams tend to put less players in a defensive block against Liverpool because Liverpool lull them into a false sense of safety (I suppose?). If teams can beat Liverpools first line of gegenpress then they’ll have more chance of playing through the midfield and against the fullback. However, this leaves them in positions where, if they lose the ball, they’re facing a 3vs3 or 4vs4 on the edge of their own box. With Man City, teams ‘park the bus’ more and, if they lose it on the edge of the box, they’re more likely to have 5/6 players behind the ball already. This is where Aston Villa seemingly went wrong the other night. If teams beat City’s first line of pressing, they rarely make it past the central midfield players, hence why the ball is recycled so much by Man City. I suppose if you want a (poor) analogy it might be a bit more like boxing versus MMA or Snooker versus 8/9 ball pool. A slightly more conservative game of longer duration, breaking your opponents down physically and mentally (Man City) versus a more fast paced, shorter bursts of action, where small mistakes are more likely to cost you (Liverpool)
The problem with counterpressing (gegenpressing) is that if all players spring forward right after regaining possession, one missed pass can lead to a counter attack down the other end. When everybody goes forward, you may not have a good enough defensive structure or enough energy in the midfielders to track back and defend. So that’s why Guardiola wants his players to reset and why he calls himself ‘the most defensive coach’ at times lmao.
@@lukessportsacademy LUKE: "The most BRUTAL match in Football History: Leeds Utd v Chelsea-The Rivalry" is the 1970 F A Cup Final REPLAY @ Old Trafford in midweek, IS FOR YOU... Now you will see why older fans laugh at the antics of some modern players who get a touch and start doing triple rolls on the floor. See how they, nearly, always,get up and ENJOY!
6:25 For that Question my understanding are following: 1) First thing first its very difficult to perfect(a), This version of Pep Barca was more sofisticated than Pep version of Bayern and current City team, 2)Opponent simply went with sit back and wait (park the bus) strategy, even adopted by top attacking team. a)around 2002 Unlike other European team who relies on athletic ability Spanish team(dominantly Barca) played in tikitaka system due to their short hight.Messi Xavi and fellow can play this way even with blind folded since they have practice this way from very young age(generation tikitaka). Generation Tikitaka 2011 FCB team become old Hence Tiki taka wearoff by it self.
Have you considered doing live streams for when games are, Champions League would be a great opportunity to interact with the channel and experience it with others.
6:48 teams just stayed in a low block not giving them any space to work with and played counter attack football. Thats the way mourinho and real madrid did stopped them from being that dominant. 👌🏽
I remember watching the game against Chelsea where Barca were so one dimensional. What was particularly lacking was that Barca did not take any shots from distance, every time they tried to force the ball in to a very packed area. It meant that Chelsea didn't have to bother trying to press or tackle any player until they were about three yards from the box. Any good system includes a back up plan, but Guardiola's only response to teams who didn't play in the way he needed them to, was to whine about them not playing properly...
A legendary coach of the NBA team the Boston Celtics, Red Auerbach, said the same type of thing. He said something along the lines of, "the ball travels in the air through a pass faster than any player can move"
9 is traditionally the number of the striker, 10 is traditionally the number of the best attacking midfielder who is the best at creating chances and the 9 is the one who has the best shooting and finishing who the 10 is seeking out to create plays for. I see false 9 as sort of the in-between role, it's also a 9, but also a 10, so he's kinda a false 10 at the same time. I think the reason why pep wants to build from the back is not because that creates the best chances, but because that is the most risk free approach, he doesn't want to lose the ball but it's much more difficult to get good chances that way. The reason it works so well in man city comes down to the quality of players, they have such amazing passers, like KDB, that he much rather rely on them creating the chance out of thin air with their intelligence and game sense rather than go for dangerous fast attacks which would be more risky because that makes the game faster and might give the opponent good counter attacking chances.
I never heard of or have seen this playstyle. It looks weird to me because it looks like a training game we played in my youth. Seeing that transferred into a real game is funny.
During watching this video: Tiki Taka requires very good and intelligent player. But it is distructable with a 3-4-3wide, giving the opponent more space, creating longer passing routes with more opportunities to intercept a pass and switch immediately to a counter attck. Btw: for spectators it´s very boring.
Traditional numbers. Imagine a 1-4-4-2 with a diamond in the midfield that cant turn into a 1-4-2-3-1 Goalkeeper: 1 Right Back: 2 Center Backs: 4 and 5 Left Back: 3 Central Defensive Midfielder: 6 Right Midfielder/ BTB Central Midfielder: 8 Central Attacking Midfielder: 10 Left Midfielder/ Left Wing: 11 Center Forward/ Striker: 9 Right Wing/ Second Striker: 7 The left mid in the diamond can turn into a left wing, the rught mid turns into a box-to-box central midfielder and the 2nd striker becomes a right wing.
Here in Brazil we usually have Goalkeeper: 1 Right Back: 2 Center Backs: 3 and 4 Left Back: 6 Central Defensive Midfielder: 5 Right Midfielder/ BTB Central Midfielder: 8 Central Attacking Midfielder: 10 Left Midfielder/ Left Wing: 11 Center Forward/ Striker: 9 Right Wing/ Second Striker: 7
it was called BORING , because it was 200 passes and 175 of them were to the side or backwards.. IF you really want to learn about tactics and how it works get the game... Football manager
LUKE: "The most BRUTAL match in Football History: Leeds Utd v Chelsea-The Rivalry" is the 1970 F A CUp Final REPLAY @ Old Trafford in midweek, IS FOR YOU...😀 Now you will see why older fans laugh at the antics of some modern players who get a touch and start doing triple rolls on the floor. See how they,nearly,always,get up and ENJOY!
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A false 9 is "false" because he starts in the 9 (ST) position who drops back and plays as a 10(AM), false because he isnt playing the usual role of the position. Out of possession, he usually occupies the strikers area but his positioning shifts in possession.
You don't have to apologize for that Muhammad Ali comparison, it is actually spot on, the fundamental goal of tiki taka is to tire out the opposition, not so different from what Ali used to do.
Its actually very fun watching people who have a tactical mindset while watching sports discovering football and not just seeing it based on the overall entertainment value that it gives to a casual viewer. It takes a veery long time for casual viewers usually to realize that the game is about 90 minutes and that stamina and individual qualities of players play a huge role into how the sport is played which you tapped into even in this video which is many months old by this point.
One thing that is frequently neglected when it comes to Barcelona is that they conspired with Real to choke off funding to the rest of La Liga. The domestic distribution of TV money meant that Barca and Real had about 3 times about much money from TV as even the 3rd or 4th place team, and about 10 times as much as the bottom half teams. They had the biggest budgets in Europe and would frequently try to buy the biggest players from around the leagues. Their tactics were part of the performance, but the economic imbalance was massively influential too.
If you want to learn how and why the traditional numbers are like what they are, Jonathan Wilson's book "Inverting The Pyramid" takes you all the way from the starting formations (which was 2-3-5), and you'll see where the numbers started to where they ended up being.
Said it on the OG post on MCkinneys channel.
In sportsteams you have around 1 hall of fame class players per generation.
That Barca era team had hall of fame players on every position that played glorious football every week playing with the oponents.
Its quite hard as a Barcelonafan though when you were SO spoiled back then and have to cope with todays meidocre team.
That’s what makes me sad as a Liverpool fan. I’ve been following Liverpool since the times Torres and Kuyt joined in 2006. We never had dominance like we have had under Klopp, and now he is leaving 😭. But bad times make the good times even better, trust me.
Nice! Always good to see the passion growing and spreading!
reupload, isn't it? I remember watching this video a while ago
Love this tactics talks
Yay tactics video, sadly its an old one. Hoping for more! I would love to see you try to swim at the deep end with a harvey gration or a 4-4-2 analysis of a specific match, preferably 1 that you've watched and then see what was cooking on the pitch.
Also to add onto 13:20, after the 3-4-3 is used in the build-up phase, pep (and often other coaches) transition to typically either a 3-2-5 or 2-3-5 in the opposition half to help the offensive threat. Just something cool to notice since you guys seemed interested in mid-game formation changes as well
And for recycling play to the back line after getting possession again, I think it’s typically done to suck the opposition backline away from their goal and towards yours.
I think for teams like Pep’s it’s a lot more valid since the other side will likely play with a lot more respect (Man City, Barcelona) so these tactics make it easier to attack the space in behind afterwards. To add on to this, a good ball behind to unlock an attacker will often lead to the defenders being on the back foot and not able to defend optimally (you typically want to face the attacker head on rather than in a foot race since it’s a lot easier to tackle legally that way)
My first video I watched from your channel was also with Corey so it was great seeing your guys’ journey since then. Keep at it man!
Genuine football fan these two 👍
Would also recommend reading Inverting The Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson as well. Deep dive in the history of tactics
Enjoyed the gegenpress talk. Some teams would pick and choose their moments about when to trigger it. Presumably so they don't tire themselves out too quickly.
The Republic of Ireland side under Jack Charlton, whilst having a route one style, would implement pressing as part of their tactic. I remember one of their players, Andy Townsend, saying that the heat of the US in 1994 would tire them out and negated their press somewhat because if the entire team doesn't engage with the press then it sort of falls apart.
It's not about passing back every time you win the ball it's all about keeping possession of the ball, so if the best option is to pass backwards then that's what they do.
Your rope a dope analogy is pretty spot on. With the short tiki-taka passing teams would try to close down on Barcelona and tire themselves out. The ball was only a few meters away from them so should be easy to close down right? And when they were getting a bit gassed barca would play some more risky forward combinations, and ofcourse with prime Messi a lot of goals followed. It took a couple of years for opponents to just sit back and let Barcelona do their thing until they arrived at the box (Atletico style).
A tip for when you really want to focus on tactics: Try watching games with only one camera from behind the goal (essentialy Madden cam style). It's some times called "strategic view" or something like that and sadly, it is hard to find most of the time. But some channels offer it and it is really nice to see the work the players do while not having the ball. Also the formations are way more obvious that way.
It is however a little less exciting since you feel a bit more distant to the players and the action around the ball than in normal broadcasts.
PS: I wish this kind of camera view would be more accessable in the NFL as well. You rarely get to see the routes of players that are away from the ball.
Luke i think you are doing really well on learning football I just wanted to say soon you should start checking out some lower league football like the championship or league one i think it could be something your interested in
Gonna have to jump into Wrexham in League 1
I know they are close to the top. Have they promoted officially?
@@lukessportsacademy Not yet … it’s getting tight. Top 3 go up automatically. Wrexham in 3rd. 2 points ahead with a game in hand. Only 5 matches remaining.
First Stockport is 4 ahead with game in hand and we play them on final day.
Second Mansfield is on same points with game in hand.
Wrexham can still win league if they go on a run.
@@Wrexham_Worldthis is actually really funny to me since I actually support Chester lol
There is a popular video game called football manager it's best way to learn tactics imo
The reason i'm not into American football is because no one can get relegated or promoted, there is nothing on the line. No disrespect to the actual sport! I have watched a few Super Bowls, it is a very good show and the athletes are some next level human beings. I feel like they just regulate who is going to win, so everyone is content. If i'm wrong, my bad!
Do some similarity and difference on tactics between American Football and Soccer
The thing with gegenpressing is that it sacrifices control for the oportunity to shoot. When you get the ball back with gegenpress the players need to deal with the imediate situation on the pitch and positions they're in, and it demands a higher level of adaptability, whereas Guardiola's tactic, although not that flashy, garantees a much higher level of control beyond just posession, making the next chance they create much more dangerous than a found oportunity by gegenpressing.
Took me a while to realize this. I think now I appreciate Guardiola’s philosophy even more than I did at the time this was recorded. Pep has a press as well, it doesn’t make sense to combine a gegenpress with a possession philosophy.
I disagree with that last statement. Chances created from gegenpressing leave the opponent out of possition and most of the time outnumbered in their defense. Where Guadiola's team tries to find openings by passing, but the defensive numbers are still there. But you give up some control of the game indeed.
The other difference is, the way you press and the goal of your pressing needs to inform your offense. Like, if you are a "positional team" you'll rarely be in position to gegenpress to the same effect of a Klopp's team, Liverpool rutinely "sacrifice" spacing in its offense to gather more players around the same area and have them ready to press if the attack fails.
Guardiola's Ideal game has him having 95% ball possession achieved through dominance on the ball, Klopp's Ideal Is averaging 95% possessione because the opposing team resorted to sweep the ball away anytime they manager to stop an attack.
If your friend likes defence then it might be worth looking at some of 442’s assessments of arsenal’s defence this season which has been rather good
To play tik-taka you pretty much MUST to be much better than everyone else you are mostly competing.
Sure it works on barcelona, but if you ever try this style on an "average" team of a league, it will mostly likely struggle to work, unless their players really fits this style.
One more thing to factor in that was in that barca team most of their players were small and didn’t have much physicality so tiki taka for them was something they have to use as an advantage to bcuz they were at a physical disadvantage they didn’t cross aerial balls or played too many long balls… xavi,Messi,ineista,Pedro,alba,villa, Sanchez etc most of the players were short/small
i'd love to see you do a football manager series
It’s in my contact creation plan! My only problem right now is not really having the capacity or equipment to make that series happen. And I don’t want to do subpar gaming content. But in the near future, as the Channel grows, I would expect to do a series on football manager.
Watching this video and you guys talking about pressing makes me think you should react to "press resistant" players like Moussa Dembele, Frenkie De Jong etc... if you haven't already. These types of game breaking players allow teams to play riskier with their passing and dribbling
From my understanding, usually positions number in football tactics in 4-3-3 is :
1. Goalkeeper
2. Right back
3. Left back
4. Right center back
5. Left center back
6. Defense midfield
8. Center midfield
10. attacking midfield
7. Right attacking foward
11. Left attacking foward
9. Striker/center forward,
this part particular numbering generally used in when mentioning role or position for easy to understand, like when people say number six player is the defensive minded midfield player, and number 8 is box to box midfield player, this number were used for number in jersey/kit to labeling the regular player, the smaller the number in Jersey/kit its mean he is the regularly played in the position, its not mandatory just for make it easy, but in some player number can be mandatory clause, like when player use the number 7, 10 or 9 is most likely he is the star of the team like CR7 in madrid or any elite strikers to shown his status in the club, fun fact there were a some myth at number like in Chelsea FC they have "Cursed Number 9". (sorry for my bad English)
That's one possible, very attack-minded formation ... only aggressive teams with VERY athletic defenders employ such a system
If you have 3 aggressive forward players, then your midfield is likely to be dominated by your opponent, who may be playing a 4-5-1 .. or 5-4-1 (to counter your 3 attackers)
A direct style of football is usually the best - where you bypass the midfield entirely, and boot the ball forwards for your numerous attackers to get onto it, and pressurise their defence into making errors, or conceding fouls and corners. (the "high press") [alternatively - your "Andy Robertson" wing-back becomes an integral part of the attack]
If you don't have athletic players, then you risk being demolished on the counter-attack playing the 4-3-3
When it works - like with Liverpool - it's exciting and amazing!
But you WILL leak goals ... but you rely on your attacking strategy to correct that .. which an elite swashbuckling team like Liverpool does brilliantly, often coming from behind and winning games
It's a daring strategy - which, if it works - will see your team 2 points clear at the top of the league, with only 8 games remaining ,,,
But if your team is full of has-been old farts, then you should NEVER play the 4-3-3 ... you'll get relegated
If you want to know the origins of the numbers, I highly recommend "Inverting The Pyramid"by Jonathan Wilson which is the more or less complete history of football and the tactical evolutions. The first formation was 2-3-5, made up of:
1. GK
2. Left Fullback
3. Right Fullback
4. Left Centre half (which was the archaic name for midfield, but for reasons you'll see in the book, it's still used for central defenders in the UK)
5. Middle Centre Half
6. Right Centre Half
7. Left Wing or Outside Forward
8. Left Inside Forward
9. Centre Forward
10. Right Inside Forward
11. Right Wing (or Outside Forward)
Over the years, various small adjustments were made, but the numbers didn't change so when the WM formation happened, the shirts would line up something like (for front to back)
7-9-11
8-10
4-5
2-6-3
I think Pep likes to recycle possession to maintain control. He wants the team to move to the opposition's half with a good structure(structure and organisation are key in defending) and maintain it when defending or handling transitions. If you win the ball and attack immediately you are now the one at risk of losing possession and being open to a counterattack because your team's shape isn't organized. A perfect example of this is Manchester United this season(I'm a United fan). They press to create chances but almost always mess it up and allow the other team to counterattack. Their games are chaotic and have been described as tennis matches.
you should try playing football manager that will teach you a lot about football and its a great game
Tiki-taka is a really great playing style if you have the proper players who can pass the ball well and make perfect runs. It's a style in which the passing and off ball movement is done in such a way that the opponent will be ending up chasing shadows and it's truly a sight to behold. The only flaw in tiki-taka is that you need very talented world class players for executing it, any average or low iq players cannot execute tiki taka that's why most of the footballers rely on quick counter attack.
I think with Man City, you might be missing a key detail.
Yes, they play a lot more conservatively than teams like Liverpool but they don’t always recycle the ball. If they can win the ball back on the edge of the box, they will quickly assess where the defence is in position or whether they can get a chance away. For example, have a look at Phil Foden’s hattrick sealing goal against Aston Villa this week (03/04/24). He loses the ball on the edge of the box, goes down, gets up, wins it back, and scores a screamer. In his split second of winning the ball back, he’s got three options: shoot, play it wide to work an angle, or reset the play by playing back to a midfielder/ defender. 9 times out of 10 it’ll be the second or third options, but not always.
One of the key points to this is how teams set up against Man City and Liverpool. Teams tend to leave themselves slightly more open against Liverpool because Liverpool like to play ‘chaotic’ football, where there’s not so much build up play but more focuses on counter-attacking or winning the ball back high up the pitch. Teams tend to put less players in a defensive block against Liverpool because Liverpool lull them into a false sense of safety (I suppose?). If teams can beat Liverpools first line of gegenpress then they’ll have more chance of playing through the midfield and against the fullback. However, this leaves them in positions where, if they lose the ball, they’re facing a 3vs3 or 4vs4 on the edge of their own box.
With Man City, teams ‘park the bus’ more and, if they lose it on the edge of the box, they’re more likely to have 5/6 players behind the ball already. This is where Aston Villa seemingly went wrong the other night. If teams beat City’s first line of pressing, they rarely make it past the central midfield players, hence why the ball is recycled so much by Man City.
I suppose if you want a (poor) analogy it might be a bit more like boxing versus MMA or Snooker versus 8/9 ball pool. A slightly more conservative game of longer duration, breaking your opponents down physically and mentally (Man City) versus a more fast paced, shorter bursts of action, where small mistakes are more likely to cost you (Liverpool)
The problem with counterpressing (gegenpressing) is that if all players spring forward right after regaining possession, one missed pass can lead to a counter attack down the other end. When everybody goes forward, you may not have a good enough defensive structure or enough energy in the midfielders to track back and defend.
So that’s why Guardiola wants his players to reset and why he calls himself ‘the most defensive coach’ at times lmao.
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I recomment you watching bayern destroy tiki-taka since you mentioned the fall of this style of play
6:25 For that Question my understanding are following:
1) First thing first its very difficult to perfect(a), This version of Pep Barca was more sofisticated than Pep version of Bayern and current City team,
2)Opponent simply went with sit back and wait (park the bus) strategy, even adopted by top attacking team.
a)around 2002 Unlike other European team who relies on athletic ability Spanish team(dominantly Barca) played in tikitaka system due to their short hight.Messi Xavi and fellow can play this way even with blind folded since they have practice this way from very young age(generation tikitaka).
Generation Tikitaka 2011 FCB team become old Hence Tiki taka wearoff by it self.
Have you considered doing live streams for when games are, Champions League would be a great opportunity to interact with the channel and experience it with others.
Yes! I have done quite a few live stream watch-alongs. I plan to do more as my schedule permits.
6:48 teams just stayed in a low block not giving them any space to work with and played counter attack football. Thats the way mourinho and real madrid did stopped them from being that dominant. 👌🏽
I remember watching the game against Chelsea where Barca were so one dimensional. What was particularly lacking was that Barca did not take any shots from distance, every time they tried to force the ball in to a very packed area. It meant that Chelsea didn't have to bother trying to press or tackle any player until they were about three yards from the box.
Any good system includes a back up plan, but Guardiola's only response to teams who didn't play in the way he needed them to, was to whine about them not playing properly...
I think it was Guardiola who once said that the ball is faster than any player.
Hence his preference for a passing system.
A legendary coach of the NBA team the Boston Celtics, Red Auerbach, said the same type of thing. He said something along the lines of, "the ball travels in the air through a pass faster than any player can move"
9 is traditionally the number of the striker, 10 is traditionally the number of the best attacking midfielder who is the best at creating chances and the 9 is the one who has the best shooting and finishing who the 10 is seeking out to create plays for. I see false 9 as sort of the in-between role, it's also a 9, but also a 10, so he's kinda a false 10 at the same time.
I think the reason why pep wants to build from the back is not because that creates the best chances, but because that is the most risk free approach, he doesn't want to lose the ball but it's much more difficult to get good chances that way. The reason it works so well in man city comes down to the quality of players, they have such amazing passers, like KDB, that he much rather rely on them creating the chance out of thin air with their intelligence and game sense rather than go for dangerous fast attacks which would be more risky because that makes the game faster and might give the opponent good counter attacking chances.
Oh... i forgot: Good video!
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I never heard of or have seen this playstyle. It looks weird to me because it looks like a training game we played in my youth. Seeing that transferred into a real game is funny.
Benzema is a good player to unterstand what is a false 9 if you wanna watch sometimes
During watching this video: Tiki Taka requires very good and intelligent player. But it is distructable with a 3-4-3wide, giving the opponent more space, creating longer passing routes with more opportunities to intercept a pass and switch immediately to a counter attck. Btw: for spectators it´s very boring.
3-4-3 with press and counter attack
Tiki taka is based the players. You need the right players to play that style. That's why you don't see it these days.
Traditional numbers. Imagine a 1-4-4-2 with a diamond in the midfield that cant turn into a 1-4-2-3-1
Goalkeeper: 1
Right Back: 2
Center Backs: 4 and 5
Left Back: 3
Central Defensive Midfielder: 6
Right Midfielder/ BTB Central Midfielder: 8
Central Attacking Midfielder: 10
Left Midfielder/ Left Wing: 11
Center Forward/ Striker: 9
Right Wing/ Second Striker: 7
The left mid in the diamond can turn into a left wing, the rught mid turns into a box-to-box central midfielder and the 2nd striker becomes a right wing.
Here in Brazil we usually have
Goalkeeper: 1
Right Back: 2
Center Backs: 3 and 4
Left Back: 6
Central Defensive Midfielder: 5
Right Midfielder/ BTB Central Midfielder: 8
Central Attacking Midfielder: 10
Left Midfielder/ Left Wing: 11
Center Forward/ Striker: 9
Right Wing/ Second Striker: 7
If your friend is interested in defense he should watch games of Atletico Madrid and inter Milan they play a defensive football but not the jose style
it was called BORING , because it was 200 passes and 175 of them were to the side or backwards.. IF you really want to learn about tactics and how it works get the game... Football manager
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False 9: Watch Real Madrid videos with Karim Benzema as false 9
TEAMS WITH KOHONES
1) REAL MADRIT
2) LIVERPOOL
3) BAYERN
4) BVB
5) SEVILIA
a word to Mourinho: The worst and most overrated coach ever (ok, with Tuchel). You want to know why? Ask me, the explanation will take some time.
europe's biggest loosers
1) P.S.G
2) ARSENAL
3) BARCELONA
4) ATLETIKO MADRIT
You like gegenpress you like tikitaka and you support spurs lol spurs play none of them. Anyways