Ive been using MPC for 22 years, and I have every single beat I've ever made.... Thousands of beats..... The only way I ever lost mine was when there was a power outage and my equipment turned off..... Ive been tracking all my beats into Protools since 1999... I make beats, and then I immediately track them into protools, the disk was a shirt term place for it, but most of the time, I tracked them into the computer immediately without even saving them on a disk.... I have probably 2TB full of backed up beats on external hard drives.... I had to transfer 600GB out of really old external drives at one point 15 years ago, but I didn't lose anything.... It's a good feeling to still have the first beats I was making back in 1998... Much love.
True information, in 2010 I lost all my beats and a couple albums I recorded. Only had a few mp3s of the recordings. Never mixed or mastered the material. I had to start all the way over. Now I have 30 jump drives, 20 Sd cards, 10 physical external hard drives and multiple cloud accounts. I’m all about backups now. If your a music writer producer or creator of any kind having multiple backup sources should be as much apart of your budget as your equipment
Backup! Backup! Backup! I learned the hard-way. A windows update cause a glitch in my system and mangled everything! I lost 7 projects I was working on and had to do a complete reinstall. Now I backup to 2 external hard drives several times a day and update my system image backup every couple weeks. Excellent video! Thanks!
Dude, have you ever seen a grown man cry? Back in the day, Ensoniq brand keyboards would always glitch. So, losing projects go back with these keyboards. Make you cry.
One tip I have always stuck by for 20 years.... Never use a windows computer or have your music computer connected to the internet.... I've been using protools on Apple computers for 20 years, never connected my music computer to the internet ever... And have never had a problem.
I've been working standalone since 1993 and I haven't had much problem with losing material. When I got the Maschine in 2016,I had two laptop crashes and lost all my beats. Computers are much more unstable than standalone media. I save everything now on two external hard drives.
@@labandlegacy I recently added the MPC One to the arsenal and looking to get the Maschine Plus soon as the price drop a little. I'm just about DAWless except for recording.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 Ableton being much more capable doesn't disqualify the Maschine+ as a DAW, buddy hahahaha True DAWless would be relying only on arpeggiators, hardware effects, a mixer, and you yourself for "automation", arrangement, and such, in my opinion. I'm not interested in true DAWless, hahaha
CrAzY how shyt works! I got... 50gb on dropbox 128gb Samsung evo in the live II 128gb Samsung SD card 2x 1tb Samsung evo in the laptop 2x 1tb Samsung evo External hd I've lost music before. From upgrading equipment or from drives or there inclosures failing. I use to have a Korg Triton Studio and a MPC 2000xl. I added a SD card to the mpc, but the Triton would only read and write to scsi zip drives lol... 100mb zip disk lol 😆 the good ole days lol. But yeah... if you edit a lot of video footage... that takes up a lot of space over time. Dope vid 👌
Absolutely bro. I still use bigger drives for my old backup videos, but for crucial files, especially ones that make me money, the cloud storage just lets me sleep at night, lol.
very good topic man ! people should learn how to save their work, even on 2 or 3 copies! i had the experience of loosing 3 years of work, lng time ago, and i never forgiven myself for that error :)
You absolutely right about backing up your projects 💯 Don't even play around when it comes to that because it will definitely come bite you in the butt at the worst time possible 😭
Thanks bro! You should still do it. Could reach more people who really need to hear it, and drill it in our common followers' heads 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for tuning in 🤜💥🤛
I tell you the only format that never failed me was the mini disc recorders. But like the man said if your project is not saved in two different places it is officially not saved 💯👍🏽👍🏽💯
I triple backup my stuff. I have a Time Machine drive, I have BackBlaze, and I have a NAS backup which also gets backed up to the cloud. I learned my lesson long ago after having to wipe and reinstall my OS a few times. Backblaze is automatic it even backs up my external drives. The same with Time Machine. The Time Machine drive also gets backed up to Backblaze. The NAS backup could be automatic but I actually do that one manually as needed. That has 8TB of storage. The MPC is a little hard just because you have to copy your stuff to a PC constantly, so you have to remember to back it up regularly manually. The trick is to have multiple back ups because there is always multiple points of failure.
This is some really good info....A very relevant topic and common denominator for us beat makers and producers.... Thank to you so much for sharing... vEry helpful 🎯💯
🙏 Thanks for the great feedback! I hate to see anyone go thru such a big loss. If I can help a couple producers from going thru that, it's a major win!
It always takes the loss of data to make many people take precautions like keeping multiple backups. You should never rely on one source for backup. Cloud server storage can go bad too. They keep your data on more than one server and location too to address that risk.
Well most cloud systems have redundant servers. In 12 years of using Dropbox I've never lost a file. I wish I had used it for my music from the beginning.
@@labandlegacy Yup. Your data is stored at a minimum of two physical locations. Sometimes more. If the building holding the server goes down, you would likely never know unless it is in the news.
You in IT bro lol. You sound super familiar with the terms. Was a DBA for 11 years. I should know better! Thanks for the reminder. I definitely need a backup solution with the video stuff I'm doing now as well.
🤣 I was a Verizon network tech for 3 years, and I've had my video/photo company for almost 10 so I had to get very familiar with the "business" of data management. We all slack man, that's why I went cloud. It's lazy proof 🤣 🤜💥🤛
Dropbox is the shit. You can make a private password protected link to a beat and send it to an artist or whoever. But, I wish you could use mpc live WiFi feature to access the drives in it wirelessly to easily drag, drop and back up files.
Good video and very true. One of the nice things about the circuit is that all the PC interface is web based so backing up to the cloud is kind of built into the workflow any way.
I find standalone machines valuable in the event that if your Mac or PC crashes you still have something to play around with when you want to make beats. You just gotta be smart about backing up your sessions.
What up Sight? I use a sd and a thumb drive also for backup. But I guess the same thing can go for the thumb drive also. Got Dropbox but never used it. Now is a good time to start. Thanks bro for your content!👊🏽
Thumb drives seem to have less issues with ejecting/corrupting from my experience, but I trust NOTHING lol. Thanks for watching and glad I could help bro! 🤜💥🤛
This is so important and so often overlooked. I've killed a SD card before in another device. MPC Live, maybe not as much of a problem because of the battery, but if you're on a One or X and the power goes out during a save to the SD... F for all your data on that card.
Funny I was just thinking about file management for a few days now. Was planning a video as well. Nothing like this though. I still haven't learned. All my samples and beats on one SD card atm. Bought a new flash USB stick. I'd like to see a Akai add a few features to the browser, would be great to have a back up entire drive to new drive option or just a simple copy and paste folder option. I guess just a draw back to being such a stubborn standalone only user. 😂
Yo, that is a MUCH NEEDED feature bro. There has to be a better system for bulk/batch transfers of files and backups like you said. If they can do a Splice implementation and Ableton Link, they can definitely give us that type of function 💯💯💯 Bro... you're living on the edge 🤣 Honestly SD cards are very stable if you don't take them out much. It's just if you take them out without ejecting your chances of corrupting the card go waaaay up.
I have multi tracks of albums that I've lost because I didn't back up my first laptop. Two of the artists have passed away so it hurts even more that I don't have the vocals anymore. I learned my lesson. Never again. Have back up for the back up and also have the Cloud. 500GB hard drives as they are cheaper to fix and recover info if need be. I also put particular projects on data keys so I have another spare just in case. With my workflow I save kits that I use to a CF card and then load them into either my MPC500 or MPC2000XL to work with. The beats that I make I create with the kits and the samples that I chop into the beats get mixed live into my DAW by mute and unmute. Once I have it saved in my DAW I wipe it from my MPC. DAW file, wav mix, wav master are all saved on two HD drives and the Cloud.
Good work as usual sight! True facts u spitting,..I like you use dropbox it's the biz...I see them Events 20/20 biamps in the background you using that's what I'm rockin I love em had em since 2000 true monitoring🌋👍👍
Thanks for watching bro! I love my Events, I got the smaller PS6's but those 20/20s are legendary! Just ordered the Adam T7Vs. I wanted the 8's but my room is too small. I rarely turn these up past 30% lol
Yeah man, but there are some nightmares happening with these SD Cards, especially when they have so much capacity now. I see guys entrusting these flimsy things with so much of their work. It's scary. I know guys who quit music and some who got borderline suicidal after losing everything. It's a major topic
This is why I'm getting into making music apart from the computer or some kind of hybrid setup. I keep having hard drive issues and been tired losing everything and having to re-download gigs as gigs of sound content.
The issue can be resolved adopting safety tips. Save regularly your beats on a cloud and other disks. Using informations about the beat (track number and instruments assigned to it). I buy 128gb CF card to save precious datas, and I try to prevent myself to use it, until I’ve got a serious issue.
Thought I was the only one. Everytime I finish a song or project, versions of it are exported, along with mixed and raw stems and the session file, and burned on to these, with an image of it stored on my drive if I need it, disk stored away and not touched. Its not the greatest for constant backing up, but for archival storage, its fantastic.
great pointers and tips for sure...for someone who’s totally analog SD cards aren’t the best as far as storage but it’s better than the big old floppies from back in the day lol 💾
Just found ya channel ... Been trying to upgrade my system of beat making and found this video..(V8 forehead slap moment) I should have been doing this..THANK YOU for the reminder
I forgot to put this on the last message I sent you. A lot of it has to do with how stable your internal drive is and heat and temperature. If the MPC is very hot chances are you going to do some work because it runs like a PC
My fl20 crashes all the time. Whereas my mv8800 has only crashed twice, and one of those times was during a thunderstorm. Lost 6 months of work in fl studio earlier this year, but the hard drive in my mv is safe as the bank.
Hit us with a fedora some Ogs dont wear baseball caps but love that Mpc gang ...appreciate all the knowledge you kick thank you stay safe good vibes 🎵❤🙏💯
The fedora! Ok... one of the homies asked for a pork pie hat 🤣 OGs got too much flavor! 💪 I appreciate that bro, thanks for the feedback and encouragement. It keeps me motivated 💯💯💯
Yeah man the price has gone down dramatically. iCloud is 🔥 for working with clients though. The homie CMP (@Craftmaster Productions) has been showing guys how he interacts with artists using it and it's a dope way to collab with them.
I have 2 external hard drives a 1 tb and a 2 tb I use the 1 tb on my Mac mini to save beats and files from the maschine and pro tools I use the 2 tb for the mpc one and to back up the first one then this Friday I’m getting a third one that’s 2 tb to back up both of those that way I’m totally covered
That's good money! But dont forget to stash at LEAST an SD card at mama's house or your glove box or something, lol. It's never really backed up unless it's in 2 locations!
Good luck uploading 6 terabyte (and counting) to the cloud. You can use it as a second depository (in case of fire.) but I need this files at home in a RAID config.
Where is the difference to loosing "everything" on the MacBook SSD or an external HDD? If you don't plan or do backups (even with time maschine) there is always a certain risk. It is more likely to make a mistake and delete things actively by error (like on the digitakt or if you save to the wrong project). The good thing (at least with me) is that the creative process can be recalled somehow once done - no matter if it is writing, drawing or programming music.
The likelihood of them having a complete outage is 1000x less likely than you losing or corrupting a hard drive 😂 I've had Dropbox for 12 years. Never as much as a hiccup. They have multiple redundant servers across the country. If they ever went out of business it's not like your data would disappear the same day. There would be a migration notice well beforehand.
How about just storing it on a usb Thumb Drive until you can save it to your PC? I personally have the free Dropbox version but I have a few external SSD drives and USB Thumb drives.
That's good, but you want to keep something in a different location, so get a thumb drive that you can keep in your car or you mama's house just in case!
Yea bro, I lost beats wayyyy back in day on a zip drive with my mpc2000. These days I have a 1tb external connected to the MPCX and I have a another one on my MAC that I transfer and backup alllllllll my files. Like you say keepnthem in 2 places.
@@ricoeab2 I'm sorry to hear that bro 🙏 God bless him and may he rest in peace. A lot of our Pettiford ancestors were Ocmulgee Creek & Choctaw. Native to this area. (I'm in Savannah GA now)
Great vid. Could you tell a bit about your method of storing all beats in that one folder you showed us? From MPC standalone to full backup in less than 100 words 😉 And how easy is it to find back certain projects within that 49GB of data? Particular structures?✌️😎👍
Most important thing is to hit "eject" when you pop out the SD card, lol. After that I just open the project in MPC Software, and save it to my usual beat folder. MPC projects are fairly small (Most of my beats are around 20-40MB). I try to do that every week (I only make 3-4 beats a week in standalone) so it doesn't take very long at all. Less than 5 minutes week. 👍 I also name my beats by date, then name.
iamsight On projects base, cool. Date and name 👍 MPC is new territory here, think you got it right with the plastic cards! One should see them as temp media to transfer files back and forth, not to store stuff permanently on. Thanks again! ...Eject ✅🚀
I like the mpc software its really modular I get by with just the lpd 8 controller then everything goes into the google drive cloud right off the pc. Back in the 90s computers were barely functional standalone was the ONLY choice. Now it seems like going backwards because audio latency is as low as it gets controllers and software are great.
I put my music on my soundcloud so I know I got it there if I need it again I can totally just get back off soundcloud that is free now subscribe and get more space and not have any limitations and a way you can listen to your beats off your phone and such if need be not just having them in files so when you get big you can have a music production team take care of all of it for you
Yo.... it's such a tragedy, lol. I lost everything I made my first 15 years, smfh. I was on the MPC Software for the better part of the last 4 years, but now those old issues are rearing their ugly head with this Live 2 so I'm trying to get the good habits going early!
I have “lost” 15 years too. First because of broken hardware and now because I am not willing to pay for logic anymore and apple decided to fuck me up with an os update. I am not paying 3.000€ every couple years for a Mac. At the end of the day I am going back to standalone because software has fucked me up more times than hardware.
@@Hartformer2 bro I feel u. I had to move to PC for that very reason. I don't appreciate being bullied into buying something new when my MBP is working perfectly fine. Haven't been able to use the MPC Software on it for 2 years. Meanwhile my 10 year old PC was running EVERYTHING. Even my brand new PC can run an 8 year old firewire interface with 0 issues, lol! Apple has lost their damn minds
@@Hartformer2 you know they had a free trail right for logic? and if you already used it and it asks you to buy it. Close it and change the date to when it was active and Shazam! just remember to change it back so that your internet runs fine.
Yeah it stays on your computer and in the cloud. You just can't share anything. Ive never let it lapse more than a month, but they give you a lot of chances to catch up.
Yeah man, it's stupid sometimes. You have to have iLok open before you hit Scan. If it tells you the code is already used just make another Akai account with a different email address and get the serial again 😅
Pretty sure the iCloud doesn’t sync everything I think it’s only like small stuff like photos, iTunes and syncs your calendar etc. I use Google drive and drop box but always looking for a better way.
If you happen to have a tech savvy friend and don't want to go cloud, ask them about setting up a RAID for you. It uses multiple hard drives and there are a couple ways to set them up to protect your data in case one of them fails. Just another option. I use raid and cloud.
I appreciate it bro. I built my own PC a couple episodes back, so I'm sure I could figure out a RAID. I may even end up putting together a NAS for video at some point. For me it's about the location more than anything. I live in a coastal area that gets hit with at least 2 hurricanes a year so flooding and looting during evacuations are my 2 biggest risk factors.
@@labandlegacy For sure, NAS is basically just stand alone raid that you can save to from anywhere on the network, as long is its got permissions set up to use it. It's for sure a good one to have in a bailout situation where you want to save your beats but can't grab the whole computer. That plus the cloud is pretty much bullet proof.
@@HammyHavoc Depends on what kind of raid you're using. In its entirety you can't call it a back up but raid 1, raid 5, and raid 10 all store two full copies separately. So they qualify as local backup. But you usually want a local back up and a remote backup.
I’ve been explaining this concept to a friend of mines countless times. Some people are a sucker for punishment. It won’t be until there is big money on the table for a project you was working on and your computer dies. Then people will get the point. Hi I been there. Lost a dope song I had produced for Talib Kweli pssssst talk about mad at myself. Yeah back every thing up. As often as possible.
Bro Strait Factz Factz didn't lose it all But Dizamn. Went to take out the Trash n my daughter went hammering on random buttons. Came bacc n was like damn the MetroDome wont cut off on any project wats going on. Quote of the Day Spending so Much on somen that Thin smh
Hey sight. I had to stop it at 17 seconds because I know exactly what you're going through . I feel for you bro but I had to learn from use of experience how to deal with losing work like that. You probably already know this but here's some advice. You want to mess with the external hard drive especially the SSD and every time you save your work you have two copies one on the main Drive of your MPC the other one externally as a backup told that if you do lose your work they'll be okay because you have a backup. You probably already know that but I feel for you dog and I just I hope that helps you out
I feel like no one appreciates using a cloud drive until it's too late and they realise they should have been using a cloud drive. Like me but I'm doing it today this video has pushed me into it 8)
iamsight only because after 1 year your still paying for the same space at the same price. Now if it was a hard drive you would have twice the space and every year you will have more and more space in the long 🏃♀️ run on different hard drives for every year u pay. Where as virtual space u pay to keep the same space every year but it’s still only the same amount of data space. So say I pay $100 a year for 3 years for 50gigs of space. I would have spent $300 a still only have 50gigs. Now I spend that same money 💴 on 3 50gig hard drives in 3 years I will have 150gigs for my $300 verse that $300 for only 50gigs I paid for 3 years ... get it ? In other words try not to spend to much on virtual space verses buying hard drives cuz all u doing is paying for the same space every year and it doesn’t get bigger unless you pay more a year. Virtual space is good for transferring large data amounts . But to pay for the same space every year will be costly in the long 🏃♀️ run. Just a lil food for thought ✊🏾
@@producerdata I feel u, but Dropbox boosts the space with the times. I started with 500GB, then 1TB, now 2 TB and you can get more with other providers. It's not always about how much you can store, it's about how safe is your backup. 1 break-in, flood or fire can have you losing all those physical drives. You also have to factor in mobile availability. If I ever don't have my equipment with me, I always have all my sounds.
Ok,so this is weird because it's just too damn eASY TO BACKUP,and you do not have to have much in the cloud.You have free computers,you can get,to make servers,you have Google Drive,you have hard drives,like SATA drives,at less than $50-100/drive.Redundancy is MORE than one backup..You have at least 2 main workstations,one not connected to the Internet..You have at least one more workstation,off the site,with it's own server/NAS.At your place you have free Google Drives,15GB each,a tower with optical drives,as in MDisc,which last 25+ years.You have your SATA/SSD combo,x2 and your NAS?servers..In other words,stop flossing and wasting money on Hennesy,sneakers,watches,weed,serial dating,and start taking your music seriously.
@@labandlegacy ok,so if it's not that deep,then hardly no one would lose their data/files..Plus,if one takes their craft seriously,protection /security of data/files will be a priority.Think of it this way,for example.I used to ride road/mountain bikes,and a LOT of us back then didnt wear helmets.Some folks who ride morotcycles do not wear helmets.There are thousand sof people who ride bikes for decades,and never fall..BUT>>>It only takes one time,and you can be going 5 MPH,to fall,hit your head,and die...RIP Dar RObinson,stunt double in Lethal Weapon..
Ive been using MPC for 22 years, and I have every single beat I've ever made.... Thousands of beats..... The only way I ever lost mine was when there was a power outage and my equipment turned off..... Ive been tracking all my beats into Protools since 1999... I make beats, and then I immediately track them into protools, the disk was a shirt term place for it, but most of the time, I tracked them into the computer immediately without even saving them on a disk.... I have probably 2TB full of backed up beats on external hard drives.... I had to transfer 600GB out of really old external drives at one point 15 years ago, but I didn't lose anything.... It's a good feeling to still have the first beats I was making back in 1998... Much love.
True information, in 2010 I lost all my beats and a couple albums I recorded. Only had a few mp3s of the recordings. Never mixed or mastered the material. I had to start all the way over. Now I have 30 jump drives, 20 Sd cards, 10 physical external hard drives and multiple cloud accounts. I’m all about backups now. If your a music writer producer or creator of any kind having multiple backup sources should be as much apart of your budget as your equipment
Backup! Backup! Backup! I learned the hard-way. A windows update cause a glitch in my system and mangled everything! I lost 7 projects I was working on and had to do a complete reinstall. Now I backup to 2 external hard drives several times a day and update my system image backup every couple weeks. Excellent video! Thanks!
Absolutely bro, especially when it's a paid project you can't mess around! 💯💯💯
Dude, have you ever seen a grown man cry? Back in the day, Ensoniq brand keyboards would always glitch. So, losing projects go back with these keyboards. Make you cry.
@@Wimsify awww man. The floppies and zips were a nightmare, especially before shielded monitors 😅😅😅
One tip I have always stuck by for 20 years.... Never use a windows computer or have your music computer connected to the internet.... I've been using protools on Apple computers for 20 years, never connected my music computer to the internet ever... And have never had a problem.
I've been working standalone since 1993 and I haven't had much problem with losing material. When I got the Maschine in 2016,I had two laptop crashes and lost all my beats. Computers are much more unstable than standalone media. I save everything now on two external hard drives.
Well those old CF cards were much more sturdy as well. I'm glad your old stuff is still intact!
@@labandlegacy I recently added the MPC One to the arsenal and looking to get the Maschine Plus soon as the price drop a little. I'm just about DAWless except for recording.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 Maschine+ = DAW
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@@Jason75913 Not exactly... If I had it I would not use it with a computer.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 Ableton being much more capable doesn't disqualify the Maschine+ as a DAW, buddy
hahahaha
True DAWless would be relying only on arpeggiators, hardware effects, a mixer, and you yourself for "automation", arrangement, and such, in my opinion. I'm not interested in true DAWless, hahaha
i hate that sinking feeling in my gut when storage fails.
CrAzY how shyt works!
I got...
50gb on dropbox
128gb Samsung evo in the live II
128gb Samsung SD card
2x 1tb Samsung evo in the laptop
2x 1tb Samsung evo External hd
I've lost music before. From upgrading equipment or from drives or there inclosures failing. I use to have a Korg Triton Studio and a MPC 2000xl. I added a SD card to the mpc, but the Triton would only read and write to scsi zip drives lol... 100mb zip disk lol 😆 the good ole days lol. But yeah... if you edit a lot of video footage... that takes up a lot of space over time. Dope vid 👌
Absolutely bro. I still use bigger drives for my old backup videos, but for crucial files, especially ones that make me money, the cloud storage just lets me sleep at night, lol.
very good topic man ! people should learn how to save their work, even on 2 or 3 copies!
i had the experience of loosing 3 years of work, lng time ago, and i never forgiven myself for that error :)
Absolutely. It seems like a boring thing to buy, but the peace of mind is priceless! P
You absolutely right about backing up your projects 💯 Don't even play around when it comes to that because it will definitely come bite you in the butt at the worst time possible 😭
GREAT VIDEO!!!! I was planning to do a similar video, but you did this Perfectly 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks bro! You should still do it. Could reach more people who really need to hear it, and drill it in our common followers' heads 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for tuning in 🤜💥🤛
Word. I always gotta save and back up. I've lost and recovered and lost for keeps. I'm definitely going to check these clouds out. Peace.
I tell you the only format that never failed me was the mini disc recorders. But like the man said if your project is not saved in two different places it is officially not saved 💯👍🏽👍🏽💯
I triple backup my stuff. I have a Time Machine drive, I have BackBlaze, and I have a NAS backup which also gets backed up to the cloud. I learned my lesson long ago after having to wipe and reinstall my OS a few times. Backblaze is automatic it even backs up my external drives. The same with Time Machine. The Time Machine drive also gets backed up to Backblaze. The NAS backup could be automatic but I actually do that one manually as needed. That has 8TB of storage. The MPC is a little hard just because you have to copy your stuff to a PC constantly, so you have to remember to back it up regularly manually. The trick is to have multiple back ups because there is always multiple points of failure.
This is some really good info....A very relevant topic and common denominator for us beat makers and producers.... Thank to you so much for sharing... vEry helpful 🎯💯
🙏 Thanks for the great feedback! I hate to see anyone go thru such a big loss. If I can help a couple producers from going thru that, it's a major win!
It always takes the loss of data to make many people take precautions like keeping multiple backups. You should never rely on one source for backup. Cloud server storage can go bad too. They keep your data on more than one server and location too to address that risk.
Well most cloud systems have redundant servers. In 12 years of using Dropbox I've never lost a file. I wish I had used it for my music from the beginning.
@@labandlegacy
Yup. Your data is stored at a minimum of two physical locations. Sometimes more. If the building holding the server goes down, you would likely never know unless it is in the news.
You in IT bro lol. You sound super familiar with the terms. Was a DBA for 11 years. I should know better! Thanks for the reminder. I definitely need a backup solution with the video stuff I'm doing now as well.
🤣 I was a Verizon network tech for 3 years, and I've had my video/photo company for almost 10 so I had to get very familiar with the "business" of data management. We all slack man, that's why I went cloud. It's lazy proof 🤣 🤜💥🤛
Saving on the cloud is good ! Thanks for the advice ! Peace !
I use google drive works pretty well and does the same thing as drop box where you can choose what folders to sync
Dropbox is the shit. You can make a private password protected link to a beat and send it to an artist or whoever. But, I wish you could use mpc live WiFi feature to access the drives in it wirelessly to easily drag, drop and back up files.
That would be epic. We definitely need a wireless storage app.
And Yes that 2yr Old comment Sunk Deep until yu said something about Cloud. Was like Ok Glad I bacced everything up. Bless Up
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't keep mine out of my studio, he loves everything about it lol
Been a long time since i heard computer and nerds in the sentence 🤣🤣
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Absolutely bro!
Good video and very true. One of the nice things about the circuit is that all the PC interface is web based so backing up to the cloud is kind of built into the workflow any way.
Every backup medium will eventually fail. The larger the drive, the larger the loss when the fail occurs.
Hence why redundancy never hurts. And backup mediums need to be eventually "updated" as they eventually fail.
Save save save Ctrl +S got it stuck in my head
💯💯💯 Facts!
I find standalone machines valuable in the event that if your Mac or PC crashes you still have something to play around with when you want to make beats. You just gotta be smart about backing up your sessions.
What up Sight? I use a sd and a thumb drive also for backup. But I guess the same thing can go for the thumb drive also. Got Dropbox but never used it. Now is a good time to start. Thanks bro for your content!👊🏽
Thumb drives seem to have less issues with ejecting/corrupting from my experience, but I trust NOTHING lol. Thanks for watching and glad I could help bro! 🤜💥🤛
This is so important and so often overlooked. I've killed a SD card before in another device. MPC Live, maybe not as much of a problem because of the battery, but if you're on a One or X and the power goes out during a save to the SD... F for all your data on that card.
Funny I was just thinking about file management for a few days now. Was planning a video as well. Nothing like this though. I still haven't learned. All my samples and beats on one SD card atm. Bought a new flash USB stick. I'd like to see a Akai add a few features to the browser, would be great to have a back up entire drive to new drive option or just a simple copy and paste folder option. I guess just a draw back to being such a stubborn standalone only user. 😂
Funny he dropped this video today! I lost that Air-Hop Beat and looked all day today for it. I can not Find it!
@@oO5Dynasty should've put that air hop in the cloud!! 😅 but yea bro I'm trying to make some air hop type beat videos...!
Yo, that is a MUCH NEEDED feature bro. There has to be a better system for bulk/batch transfers of files and backups like you said. If they can do a Splice implementation and Ableton Link, they can definitely give us that type of function 💯💯💯 Bro... you're living on the edge 🤣 Honestly SD cards are very stable if you don't take them out much. It's just if you take them out without ejecting your chances of corrupting the card go waaaay up.
@@oO5Dynasty damn bro, I cant STAND losing beats lol.
Lost an ipad I was using for portable beat making at least 75 to 80 plus beats in it, just had to not think about it or cry😪😥😢😭😭😭
Bruh... bring a grown man to tears, seriously 😅
@@labandlegacy no doubt, lol I wish I was lying....
I have multi tracks of albums that I've lost because I didn't back up my first laptop. Two of the artists have passed away so it hurts even more that I don't have the vocals anymore. I learned my lesson. Never again. Have back up for the back up and also have the Cloud. 500GB hard drives as they are cheaper to fix and recover info if need be. I also put particular projects on data keys so I have another spare just in case.
With my workflow I save kits that I use to a CF card and then load them into either my MPC500 or MPC2000XL to work with. The beats that I make I create with the kits and the samples that I chop into the beats get mixed live into my DAW by mute and unmute. Once I have it saved in my DAW I wipe it from my MPC. DAW file, wav mix, wav master are all saved on two HD drives and the Cloud.
Good work as usual sight! True facts u spitting,..I like you use dropbox it's the biz...I see them Events 20/20 biamps in the background you using that's what I'm rockin I love em had em since 2000 true monitoring🌋👍👍
Thanks for watching bro! I love my Events, I got the smaller PS6's but those 20/20s are legendary! Just ordered the Adam T7Vs. I wanted the 8's but my room is too small. I rarely turn these up past 30% lol
@@labandlegacy right!!#lmf
Sony Tough SD is the move. Super TOUGH. Had it for years use it with my MPC going on 4 years
happens on computers too bro, lost a few hard disks back in the day.
Yeah man, but there are some nightmares happening with these SD Cards, especially when they have so much capacity now. I see guys entrusting these flimsy things with so much of their work. It's scary. I know guys who quit music and some who got borderline suicidal after losing everything. It's a major topic
That's why I use a external with mi 1000
This is why I'm getting into making music apart from the computer or some kind of hybrid setup. I keep having hard drive issues and been tired losing everything and having to re-download gigs as gigs of sound content.
The issue can be resolved adopting safety tips. Save regularly your beats on a cloud and other disks. Using informations about the beat (track number and instruments assigned to it). I buy 128gb CF card to save precious datas, and I try to prevent myself to use it, until I’ve got a serious issue.
Don't forget, a TRUE backup is in 2 locations! Even if it's a glovebox or your mama's attic, lol.
Lost my sht, few times :) good reminder to backup my iPad projects, iPhone, OP-Z, Moog and .... computer as well LOL
Yeah bro, stay on top of it! Even if it's every 3-6 months. Nobody wants to start from scratch!
M-Disk Blu-ray backup.
Classic hardcopies! Nice!
Thought I was the only one.
Everytime I finish a song or project, versions of it are exported, along with mixed and raw stems and the session file, and burned on to these, with an image of it stored on my drive if I need it, disk stored away and not touched.
Its not the greatest for constant backing up, but for archival storage, its fantastic.
Good advice.
Thank you! 🙏
great pointers and tips for sure...for someone who’s totally analog SD cards aren’t the best as far as storage but it’s better than the big old floppies from back in the day lol 💾
Good info bruh!!!
Thanks bro! Just trying to keep guys from going thru unnecessary pain
True!!!
Just found ya channel ... Been trying to upgrade my system of beat making and found this video..(V8 forehead slap moment) I should have been doing this..THANK YOU for the reminder
🤣 It's easy to forget, so I'm glad this got you back in a safe space with your work!💯💯💯 🤜💥🤛
I forgot to put this on the last message I sent you. A lot of it has to do with how stable your internal drive is and heat and temperature. If the MPC is very hot chances are you going to do some work because it runs like a PC
My fl20 crashes all the time. Whereas my mv8800 has only crashed twice, and one of those times was during a thunderstorm. Lost 6 months of work in fl studio earlier this year, but the hard drive in my mv is safe as the bank.
That's wild! Those old IDE connectors must have some magic in 'em 🤣🤣🤣
Hit us with a fedora some Ogs dont wear baseball caps but love that Mpc gang ...appreciate all the knowledge you kick thank you stay safe good vibes
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The fedora! Ok... one of the homies asked for a pork pie hat 🤣 OGs got too much flavor! 💪 I appreciate that bro, thanks for the feedback and encouragement. It keeps me motivated 💯💯💯
fedoras are ultra lame
Good work fam!!!! Didn’t know 2TB was $9.99 on iCloud. Damn!!!!! I like Drop Box too tho.
Yeah man the price has gone down dramatically. iCloud is 🔥 for working with clients though. The homie CMP (@Craftmaster Productions) has been showing guys how he interacts with artists using it and it's a dope way to collab with them.
I have 2 external hard drives a 1 tb and a 2 tb I use the 1 tb on my Mac mini to save beats and files from the maschine and pro tools I use the 2 tb for the mpc one and to back up the first one then this Friday I’m getting a third one that’s 2 tb to back up both of those that way I’m totally covered
That's good money! But dont forget to stash at LEAST an SD card at mama's house or your glove box or something, lol. It's never really backed up unless it's in 2 locations!
You've got to be kidding. Has anyone heard of the cloud?
Good luck uploading 6 terabyte (and counting) to the cloud. You can use it as a second depository (in case of fire.) but I need this files at home in a RAID config.
Where is the difference to loosing "everything" on the MacBook SSD or an external HDD? If you don't plan or do backups (even with time maschine) there is always a certain risk. It is more likely to make a mistake and delete things actively by error (like on the digitakt or if you save to the wrong project). The good thing (at least with me) is that the creative process can be recalled somehow once done - no matter if it is writing, drawing or programming music.
Remember that you don’t own cloud storage. If they get hacked or go out of business, you’re screwed.
The likelihood of them having a complete outage is 1000x less likely than you losing or corrupting a hard drive 😂 I've had Dropbox for 12 years. Never as much as a hiccup. They have multiple redundant servers across the country. If they ever went out of business it's not like your data would disappear the same day. There would be a migration notice well beforehand.
Great vid....2 external hard drives to backup to, I'm good
🙌🙌🙌💪 You're on point bro!
How about just storing it on a usb Thumb Drive until you can save it to your PC? I personally have the free Dropbox version but I have a few external SSD drives and USB Thumb drives.
That's good, but you want to keep something in a different location, so get a thumb drive that you can keep in your car or you mama's house just in case!
iamsight Yep, I have a few of them.
backups on sd card, ssd hard drive, on the computer itself and in a cloud online...voila :D
Yea bro, I lost beats wayyyy back in day on a zip drive with my mpc2000. These days I have a 1tb external connected to the MPCX and I have a another one on my MAC that I transfer and backup alllllllll my files. Like you say keepnthem in 2 places.
💯💯💯 You gotta keep the emergency jawn in the car console too! 🤣
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great advise
Love the shirt, that's my brother last name Pettiford.. 🔥🔥🔥 great video thanks
Wow! Well there's not too many of us, so we could be cousins 🤣🤜💥🤛
@@labandlegacy yeah, he was from tifton Ga, he pass 6 years ago. At that time he was living in ATLANTA GA. His name Derrick Pettiford 💯✊🏾 🙏🏾
@@ricoeab2 I'm sorry to hear that bro 🙏 God bless him and may he rest in peace. A lot of our Pettiford ancestors were Ocmulgee Creek & Choctaw. Native to this area. (I'm in Savannah GA now)
@@labandlegacy thanks 💯✊🏾 that's right yeap.. my sister over that way
Great vid. Could you tell a bit about your method of storing all beats in that one folder you showed us? From MPC standalone to full backup in less than 100 words 😉 And how easy is it to find back certain projects within that 49GB of data? Particular structures?✌️😎👍
Most important thing is to hit "eject" when you pop out the SD card, lol. After that I just open the project in MPC Software, and save it to my usual beat folder. MPC projects are fairly small (Most of my beats are around 20-40MB). I try to do that every week (I only make 3-4 beats a week in standalone) so it doesn't take very long at all. Less than 5 minutes week. 👍 I also name my beats by date, then name.
iamsight On projects base, cool. Date and name 👍 MPC is new territory here, think you got it right with the plastic cards! One should see them as temp media to transfer files back and forth, not to store stuff permanently on. Thanks again! ...Eject ✅🚀
Backup after EVERY SESSION.
i like google drive more than dropbox, but that cloud tip is a big one
Ahhhhhh, totally forgot about Google Drive.
I have dropbox 2tb. well worth it.
Bro, I sleep like a f'n BABY!!! 🤣 One of the monthly bills I pay happily.
I like the mpc software its really modular I get by with just the lpd 8 controller then everything goes into the google drive cloud right off the pc. Back in the 90s computers were barely functional standalone was the ONLY choice. Now it seems like going backwards because audio latency is as low as it gets controllers and software are great.
I put my music on my soundcloud so I know I got it there if I need it again I can totally just get back off soundcloud that is free now subscribe and get more space and not have any limitations and a way you can listen to your beats off your phone and such if need be not just having them in files so when you get big you can have a music production team take care of all of it for you
Great advice I’ve lost 2 times
Devastating bro.... Cloud storage is such a blessing.
I lost a beat 2 weeks ago. I"m still mad about it.
😂😂😂😂 The pain takes a while to recede, lol
Bro! I can't tell you how many beats I've lost in all sorts of media. Floppy, Compact, SD, HD everything lol 🤣
Yo.... it's such a tragedy, lol. I lost everything I made my first 15 years, smfh. I was on the MPC Software for the better part of the last 4 years, but now those old issues are rearing their ugly head with this Live 2 so I'm trying to get the good habits going early!
Damn Sight, Feel ya P AI n
I have “lost” 15 years too. First because of broken hardware and now because I am not willing to pay for logic anymore and apple decided to fuck me up with an os update. I am not paying 3.000€ every couple years for a Mac. At the end of the day I am going back to standalone because software has fucked me up more times than hardware.
@@Hartformer2 bro I feel u. I had to move to PC for that very reason. I don't appreciate being bullied into buying something new when my MBP is working perfectly fine. Haven't been able to use the MPC Software on it for 2 years. Meanwhile my 10 year old PC was running EVERYTHING. Even my brand new PC can run an 8 year old firewire interface with 0 issues, lol! Apple has lost their damn minds
@@Hartformer2 you know they had a free trail right for logic? and if you already used it and it asks you to buy it. Close it and change the date to when it was active and Shazam! just remember to change it back so that your internet runs fine.
Use Backblaze - game changer
Look into a Nav back up system
One word: SEAGATE ...several tasks: REDUNDANCY. Not a question of "IF" but "WHEN"!
Me too... Hard drive (HDD and than SDD) crashed - MAC OS updates killed them.
Yikes! That's a new one for me. Smh
Never connect your music computer to the internet, and of course always use Apple.... In 20 years I've never lost anything due a situation like that
I use One Drive
💯💯💯 I never tried it but my PC is always trying to push it on me 🤣
I use an internal harddrive in my MPC live . How do I back that up? Can I connect with usb?
Bought a second hand one with a 500GB harddrive installed
Thx 🙏🏾
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🤣🤣🤣 Facts!!!
So what if you stop paying do you still have access to your cloud storage?!
Yeah it stays on your computer and in the cloud. You just can't share anything. Ive never let it lapse more than a month, but they give you a lot of chances to catch up.
Just back everything on an extra HD.
What happens if that gets lost or stolen?
iamsight Keep one at your house and one at your girls or mommas house lol
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Hey iamsight i can't seem to get some of my ilok vst's to work like velvet xpand2 did you ever have this problem?
Yeah man, it's stupid sometimes. You have to have iLok open before you hit Scan. If it tells you the code is already used just make another Akai account with a different email address and get the serial again 😅
Pretty sure the iCloud doesn’t sync everything I think it’s only like small stuff like photos, iTunes and syncs your calendar etc. I use Google drive and drop box but always looking for a better way.
Google drive 100gb I believe its 2 bucks a month
💯💯💯 Thats a good deal
In the cloud, somewhere, safe...:)) somewhere doesn't sound much safe to me, bro.
That's cool. I haven't lost a file in 12 years though, so there's that. Do you homie.
If you happen to have a tech savvy friend and don't want to go cloud, ask them about setting up a RAID for you. It uses multiple hard drives and there are a couple ways to set them up to protect your data in case one of them fails.
Just another option. I use raid and cloud.
I appreciate it bro. I built my own PC a couple episodes back, so I'm sure I could figure out a RAID. I may even end up putting together a NAS for video at some point. For me it's about the location more than anything. I live in a coastal area that gets hit with at least 2 hurricanes a year so flooding and looting during evacuations are my 2 biggest risk factors.
@@labandlegacy For sure, NAS is basically just stand alone raid that you can save to from anywhere on the network, as long is its got permissions set up to use it. It's for sure a good one to have in a bailout situation where you want to save your beats but can't grab the whole computer. That plus the cloud is pretty much bullet proof.
RAID is not a backup.
@@HammyHavoc Depends on what kind of raid you're using. In its entirety you can't call it a back up but raid 1, raid 5, and raid 10 all store two full copies separately. So they qualify as local backup.
But you usually want a local back up and a remote backup.
The cloud is just, somebody else’s computer 🤔 #Fact
The whole internet is somebody else's computer 🤣 That's the whole point 🥴
I’ve been explaining this concept to a friend of mines countless times. Some people are a sucker for punishment. It won’t be until there is big money on the table for a project you was working on and your computer dies. Then people will get the point. Hi I been there. Lost a dope song I had produced for Talib Kweli pssssst talk about mad at myself. Yeah back every thing up. As often as possible.
Yeah man, and that's the worst part you can only blame yourself 😅
Bro Strait Factz Factz didn't lose it all But Dizamn. Went to take out the Trash n my daughter went hammering on random buttons. Came bacc n was like damn the MetroDome wont cut off on any project wats going on. Quote of the Day Spending so Much on somen that Thin smh
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Hey sight. I had to stop it at 17 seconds because I know exactly what you're going through . I feel for you bro but I had to learn from use of experience how to deal with losing work like that. You probably already know this but here's some advice. You want to mess with the external hard drive especially the SSD and every time you save your work you have two copies one on the main Drive of your MPC the other one externally as a backup told that if you do lose your work they'll be okay because you have a backup. You probably already know that but I feel for you dog and I just I hope that helps you out
Redundancy!!!
Thanks big bruh! I needed this as I'm a week old with my MPC. Follow me back on Twitter @Sol_Keez I'll be posting in the MPC group soon.
Just followed. Looking forward to it bro! I'm gonna start giving ny Twitter some love again, it's been too long lol
@@labandlegacy Thanks brotha! I use Twitter a lot. If it weren't for the Facebook groups I probably wouldn't log in for weeks lol.
Me too man, FB is so trash
The lord said unto Moses always back up yer data, as he gave him the 11 commandments.
😂😂😂 📜 Facts! Gotta check those original scrolls!
I feel like no one appreciates using a cloud drive until it's too late and they realise they should have been using a cloud drive.
Like me but I'm doing it today this video has pushed me into it 8)
🙌🙌🙌 I pray your files always enjoy that safety 🤣🙏💯💯💯
Is your mom and dad your clients
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🙌 Appreciate you tuning in bro! 🤜💥🤛
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Hopefully the inspiration of your pain saves someone else from the same tragedy 🤣🤣🤣
But your not a real music producers i love how having an mpc makes you a music producer
The hell are you talking about??
Jesus saves, but does not make your backups!
All facts bro!!!
i disagree
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iamsight only because after 1 year your still paying for the same space at the same price. Now if it was a hard drive you would have twice the space and every year you will have more and more space in the long 🏃♀️ run on different hard drives for every year u pay. Where as virtual space u pay to keep the same space every year but it’s still only the same amount of data space. So say I pay $100 a year for 3 years for 50gigs of space. I would have spent $300 a still only have 50gigs. Now I spend that same money 💴 on 3 50gig hard drives in 3 years I will have 150gigs for my $300 verse that $300 for only 50gigs I paid for 3 years ... get it ? In other words try not to spend to much on virtual space verses buying hard drives cuz all u doing is paying for the same space every year and it doesn’t get bigger unless you pay more a year. Virtual space is good for transferring large data amounts . But to pay for the same space every year will be costly in the long 🏃♀️ run. Just a lil food for thought ✊🏾
@@producerdata I feel u, but Dropbox boosts the space with the times. I started with 500GB, then 1TB, now 2 TB and you can get more with other providers. It's not always about how much you can store, it's about how safe is your backup. 1 break-in, flood or fire can have you losing all those physical drives. You also have to factor in mobile availability. If I ever don't have my equipment with me, I always have all my sounds.
Ok,so this is weird because it's just too damn eASY TO BACKUP,and you do not have to have much in the cloud.You have free computers,you can get,to make servers,you have Google Drive,you have hard drives,like SATA drives,at less than $50-100/drive.Redundancy is MORE than one backup..You have at least 2 main workstations,one not connected to the Internet..You have at least one more workstation,off the site,with it's own server/NAS.At your place you have free Google Drives,15GB each,a tower with optical drives,as in MDisc,which last 25+ years.You have your SATA/SSD combo,x2 and your NAS?servers..In other words,stop flossing and wasting money on Hennesy,sneakers,watches,weed,serial dating,and start taking your music seriously.
Damn, you went in 🤣🤣🤣 Most times it's not that deep, it's just not something most people think about.
@@labandlegacy ok,so if it's not that deep,then hardly no one would lose their data/files..Plus,if one takes their craft seriously,protection /security of data/files will be a priority.Think of it this way,for example.I used to ride road/mountain bikes,and a LOT of us back then didnt wear helmets.Some folks who ride morotcycles do not wear helmets.There are thousand sof people who ride bikes for decades,and never fall..BUT>>>It only takes one time,and you can be going 5 MPH,to fall,hit your head,and die...RIP Dar RObinson,stunt double in Lethal Weapon..