Ye, gothic is just the best. They should make gothic 3 with a real nice story and great immersion like in gothic 1&2. Also an engine that is somewhat liek the gothic 1&2 enginge. Gothic 3 was already a huge failure.
@@derboidrian5242 I wish they kept the look of Gothic II in G3. With higher polycount a detail ofc. What they did looks nothing like Gothic 1's or 2' world maybe aside some ruined wooden huts. People look like some hprrible forst attempts at modelling. No location mentioned from Gothic II tombstones or books appears on Myrtana, story with Lee was ruined. Whole aspect with orcs and war were done wrong. Orcs being totally different from originals awell. Not even keeping their own language from Gothic 1(they would warn you in their own tongue if you drew you weapon out or used magic in their town while wearing ulumulu plus all native names slave orc and Urshak told you)
Great run Lord! I was just thinking, after you get the first focus stone (22:55), and do the scavenger jump -> transform back to NH to inflict no falling dmg, couldn't that be considered a glitch as well? I get it, there's a certain difference between this and the sidestep bug, but I mean if you're not using that one exploit for no fall dmg, why use this one? I'd just like to get your view on this.
The dmg is from the transformation health difference, if I'm right? But you just play with words, taking dmg means simply dying in this case, so the problem remains.
Honestly, the best is just in-game sound with no one talking and no twitch UI and chat and other garbage visible. It's great to have commentary tracks available for people who want to hear it, though!
I don't understand how you manage to kill the troll at the begining. Whenever I attempt this, the goblins just reset and will walk towards the troll and then kill me since they aggro again.
Good Job - indeed. Only the Video needs an improvement. We do not see how many LP you put in Strenght, Mana etc. - you could have edit these information.
When I played it, if I remember correctly, if people saw you while transformed in a beast they would attack you even in your human form, but they don't seem to do it here. Or was it only in Gothic 2?
I am not sure about Gothic 2 but it was in Gothic 3 as well. If you transformed among people then they left you alone. If you transformed elsewhere then people attacked you but stopped after you transformed back. If you killed someone though then they continued attacking you even in your human form unless you changed back out of their sights. I think it is a very nice attention to detail. Whether Gothic 2 worked the same as Gothic 3... I cannot remember.
This is the first gothic speedrun video i saw, so sorry if my question is dumb: What the hell happened to Cor Kalom and his team at the end? Why does the Sleeper appear and why doesn't he do anything? How's that not a glitch?
The Sleeper and the novices won't do anything until you kill Cor Kalom in their sight. Cor Kalom will stop attacking you once he's stopped chasing you. Is it intended to be this way? Probably not, but if we say that everything unintended is a glitch and therefore banned, this creates an extremely fuzzy ruleset and removes all interesting tricks from this run.
@@LordSaradoc To me, gothic always has been a type of game where you HAVE TO use dirty, unintended by the creators tricks, or you will die. Therefore i see nothing wrong with using it in speedrun
Save/loading made enemies neutral to you for a second. You know about it. I know that you wanted to quickly go through these moments, BUT such things make walkthroung with a glitches. Nevertheless you doing great, I even learned a few things from this walkthrough. For example, I did't know that there is a shadowbeast next to the troll near the old mine.
@@udozocklein6023 i agree, i love acrobatics... i was just calling out the idiot who fell the need to pinpoint something that is completely obvious. :)
@@Soulfly415 lol i thought you don't understand what he's talking about, considering when i play the game it actually starts for me as soon as i learn acrobatics :D
I only go past guards with a sword if they don't stop me anyway. For example Jarvis never stops you, I only skip the dialogue. In the Old Camp I get permission to enter via the swampweed delivery quest. Robbing Baal Cadar and Scar is exploiting bad game balance, but it's not a glitch in any way. Transforming in flight is more controversial, but it could only really be banned by only allowing transforming back while standing on the ground and that's a bit extreme too. I could at the two spots where I use it also use minecrawler transform and just survive the falls. It would only take minimal changes in trading and drinking 1 or 2 more mana potions. Maybe I'll do that when I run it again, not sure yet.
@@Soulfly415 Who? Community of speed runners. Calling me idiot doesn't make you cool or something, but as I can see you need to grow up so I don't wanna talk to you no more.
I've been waiting for it!
Good job!
I didn't know that Fortuno sells healing herbs for Y'Berion.
If you return to Angar and you don't have enough, he says that maybe Fortuno has some.
@@Xerkrosis True
My problem with Gothic 1 & 2 is that after playing them all other games become shit xD
Wish there were more games like this!
Ikr?! Especially rpgs, all carbage
Play Morrowind
Try Elex
Ye, gothic is just the best. They should make gothic 3 with a real nice story and great immersion like in gothic 1&2. Also an engine that is somewhat liek the gothic 1&2 enginge. Gothic 3 was already a huge failure.
@@derboidrian5242 I wish they kept the look of Gothic II in G3. With higher polycount a detail ofc. What they did looks nothing like Gothic 1's or 2' world maybe aside some ruined wooden huts. People look like some hprrible forst attempts at modelling. No location mentioned from Gothic II tombstones or books appears on Myrtana, story with Lee was ruined. Whole aspect with orcs and war were done wrong. Orcs being totally different from originals awell. Not even keeping their own language from Gothic 1(they would warn you in their own tongue if you drew you weapon out or used magic in their town while wearing ulumulu plus all native names slave orc and Urshak told you)
WOW nice play bro, respect
GZ
Nice job Lord
Great run Lord!
I was just thinking, after you get the first focus stone (22:55), and do the scavenger jump -> transform back to NH to inflict no falling dmg, couldn't that be considered a glitch as well? I get it, there's a certain difference between this and the sidestep bug, but I mean if you're not using that one exploit for no fall dmg, why use this one? I'd just like to get your view on this.
The dmg is from the transformation health difference, if I'm right? But you just play with words, taking dmg means simply dying in this case, so the problem remains.
56:50 - dance dance
Congrats on sub 2 hours man, you are a beast!
Nothing adds to a great run like full commentary, do you consider doing commentary for this WR run?
Honestly, the best is just in-game sound with no one talking and no twitch UI and chat and other garbage visible. It's great to have commentary tracks available for people who want to hear it, though!
Super
yeeee ez, nice man
I don't understand how you manage to kill the troll at the begining. Whenever I attempt this, the goblins just reset and will walk towards the troll and then kill me since they aggro again.
better parkour than mirrors edge!
I waiting for more :)
Good Job - indeed. Only the Video needs an improvement. We do not see how many LP you put in Strenght, Mana etc. - you could have edit these information.
When I played it, if I remember correctly, if people saw you while transformed in a beast they would attack you even in your human form, but they don't seem to do it here. Or was it only in Gothic 2?
I am not sure about Gothic 2 but it was in Gothic 3 as well.
If you transformed among people then they left you alone. If you transformed elsewhere then people attacked you but stopped after you transformed back. If you killed someone though then they continued attacking you even in your human form unless you changed back out of their sights. I think it is a very nice attention to detail. Whether Gothic 2 worked the same as Gothic 3... I cannot remember.
He used transformation to not get damage from falling, is it a glitch?
Clever use of game mechanics! :)
didn´t he broke a rule because he drew his weapon to get past the guards in front of Lee?
you can enter there regardless. i think it's just to skip a dialog. gotta shave off those seconds
Also avoiding fall damage
It's not considered bug if you can enter there anyway.
This is the first gothic speedrun video i saw, so sorry if my question is dumb:
What the hell happened to Cor Kalom and his team at the end? Why does the Sleeper appear and why doesn't he do anything? How's that not a glitch?
The Sleeper and the novices won't do anything until you kill Cor Kalom in their sight. Cor Kalom will stop attacking you once he's stopped chasing you. Is it intended to be this way? Probably not, but if we say that everything unintended is a glitch and therefore banned, this creates an extremely fuzzy ruleset and removes all interesting tricks from this run.
@@LordSaradoc To me, gothic always has been a type of game where you HAVE TO use dirty, unintended by the creators tricks, or you will die. Therefore i see nothing wrong with using it in speedrun
Why do not you use the bug with a step to the side when you fall?
Because its banned, if i remember correctly
It's bugrun.
1. transrormations fall
2. Weapons bug
3. Save load before newmine
Save/loading made enemies neutral to you for a second. You know about it. I know that you wanted to quickly go through these moments, BUT such things make walkthroung with a glitches. Nevertheless you doing great, I even learned a few things from this walkthrough. For example, I did't know that there is a shadowbeast next to the troll near the old mine.
The first time I hear that about potions. 1:17:53
elo
madchild hejo
22:59
Isn't that a glitch?
thats a feature
Thats magic
3:39 8:16 bok bok
5:35 the moment the run truly begins
You're an idiot!
@@Soulfly415 but acrobatics is love..
@@udozocklein6023 i agree, i love acrobatics... i was just calling out the idiot who fell the need to pinpoint something that is completely obvious. :)
@@Soulfly415 lol i thought you don't understand what he's talking about, considering when i play the game it actually starts for me as soon as i learn acrobatics :D
How is it glitchless if you go past guards with wielded sword. And for beating up Baal Cadar, and mostly Scar. And transforming to fall great heights.
I only go past guards with a sword if they don't stop me anyway. For example Jarvis never stops you, I only skip the dialogue. In the Old Camp I get permission to enter via the swampweed delivery quest.
Robbing Baal Cadar and Scar is exploiting bad game balance, but it's not a glitch in any way.
Transforming in flight is more controversial, but it could only really be banned by only allowing transforming back while standing on the ground and that's a bit extreme too. I could at the two spots where I use it also use minecrawler transform and just survive the falls. It would only take minimal changes in trading and drinking 1 or 2 more mana potions. Maybe I'll do that when I run it again, not sure yet.
Saradoc whatever, nice run anyway
> glitchless
> using the guards glitch
lol
57:28 what?
Why this camp? Joining others faster
I doubt it, you need to run between Old Camp and Old Mine
Falling from heights as animal is considered as a bug.
But it´s not in the rules, so its allowed to use it.
Yeah right, no glitches.... just a ton of cheap exploits!
Read rules then judge
Who said anything about rules? Idiot!
@@Soulfly415 Who? Community of speed runners.
Calling me idiot doesn't make you cool or something, but as I can see you need to grow up so I don't wanna talk to you no more.