I love Benny Morris ! Right now I am reading “Righteous Victims”. Such an insightful book ! A master piece ! Thank you so much for your hard work, professor Morris !
@@lequdindoquede78 Yes ! And unlike some other “new historians”, Benny Morris knows how NOT to project the past on the present day Israel. Today’s Israelis are not responsible and should not be punished for what their ancestors did. No one has the right to judge or hate the Israelis for what their forefathers did. A solution must be found on the basis of today’s reality. That’s what I like about Benny Morris !
Morris started low as "new historian" but climbed up a little, since. I agree with his on some historical claims, but surely not as current political interpreter.
Thank you. Professor Morris is such an important voice on Israeli thought. It doesn’t matter if you agree with him or not. One has to respect that he is driven by facts, appreciates that most issues have more than one side or interpretation, and that few things are black and white. I wish more historians, politicians, and ordinary people had his level of objectivity.
He’s a great man. He’s been my number one source for a long time, and this interview is terrific. Good to see so many supportive voices in the comments section.
@@pilovwithketchup I literally did watch the 4+ hour debate 3 times. Benny did answer the question before they moved onto more important issues. Benny answered that it was the only safe place, Mouin replied what about the Britain etc etc. It was a topic covered in the debate, albeit briefly.
@@James_ZA And he asked why was Palestine, which is so far away from europe, the only safe place for the immigrants. He said it was the only safe place in the entire world, and did not elaborate further. So simply put, he did not answer the question.
@@bobbygabriel9574 That's false. He was not convicted, and if you follow the trial's progress you know that all the prosecution's witnesses' testimonies are not helping their case. Also, I disagree with the claim that Netanyahu is trying to limit the judiciary system's powers. That a theory but I never heard a proof of it. I'm not a fan of Netanyhu but I can't say I every encountered a proof of he's corruption. I think he is a bad leader because he is coward. I wish there was someone better than him.
Mr. Morris is a serious fellow with a distinguished set of publications. Claiming that the Israeli government-led initiative to try and reform one of the most powerful judiciary classes in the democratic world by partially limiting its reach to act beyond Israeli law while stating that such a reform was endangering Israel's democracy is so far-fetched that it could rightfully be defined as obscure.
What Israel needs is a Bill of Rights and a constitution. Israel has Basic Laws that be changed by a simple majority in parliament. It's absurd for a western style democracy. It should have been changed in the 1960s
I wish more people would just listen to Benny Morris. A non-peace is likely to exist for yet another half century. Instead of inventing myths somehow based on a past that never was everyone should indeed try behave moderate and accept reality instead
Moderate. That's what the Arabs have On mind for israelis. Like rape, burning whole families alive, etc. So what can Israel d o? What would any country do, but go into Gaza and take care of this finally.
The end of the video Benny is pessimistic about the zionist enterprise. He says settlement activity will go on and these will lead to the demise of the Jewish state. This is based on the demise of the crusader state in medieval times.
I believe Benny Morris doesn't think Israel will last another 50 years. He referred to the Arab street belief that Sinwa is the new Saladin. Implying that Israel will last only 88 years or around 2038. Netanyahu is too dumb to realise this. It's only how much damage Israel will cause in the region before it dissappear. However Jews will continue to live and prosper in the region.
Wise at nights guy. I recommend appreciating Morris more in the matters of the history of wars between the Arabs and the Jews and not in Israeli domestic politics. (1) Claiming that Hamas planned and carried out October 7 after Netanyahu won the November 1, 2022 elections is a false claim. This Netanyahu government began its activities in January 2023. Hamas start planning this war several years before and in the meantime built its power in secret. But some right wing leaders, historians and military men claimed for decades that Hamas is a time bomb from birth that should be neutralized at once. Yet the military branch Denied it and preferred the “easy” way to deal on low profile with Hamas threats. Hamas practiced breaching the border already in 2020, 2021, 2022, and acted only when it was ready to mission. The Bennett-Ganz-Lapid government allegedly had the same intelligence data as the previous and current Netanyahu governments. This is also not because the Bennett government made life easier for Hamas in Gaza and renewed the entry of Gazan workers into Israel (later known as intelligence collector agents for Hamas), they did not stop the entry of Qatari funds (which is based on Israel's obligations under Oslo Agreement 1993). The October 7th massacre is not due to a harsh or lenient policy towards the Gazans but stems from the Palestinians' raucous desire to throw the Jews into the sea and "liberate Palestine from the river to the sea". The Israeli failure is a lack of understanding or a political unwillingness to truly understand the goals of the Palestinians, and act accordingly, even if needed to ignore the so-called democratic countries of West which criticize Israel time and again. The Israeli failure stems from the assumption that the security and intelligence sources claimed that "Hamas is appealing for calm" and that they intend to "rehabilitate the Gaza economy in the next 5 years." The failure was due to the complacency of the security forces who reduced the collection of tactical and media intelligence on Hamas. The five intelligence gathering balloons along the Gaza border were grounded, reports from female observers about the practice of breaching the border fence were repeatedly not taken seriously and they were reprimanded for snoozing. A thorough research work by NCO & intelligence officer in unit 8200 presented to the senior military commanders was denied and rejected with some disdain. The news that Hamas commanders exchanged their SMS a few hours before the break-in did not change anything among the senior army commanders who were exposed to the information. The Chief of Staff, Chief of Army Intelligence, Head of the Shin Bet spoke by phone at around 03:00 in light of the warning that crowds of Gazans were gathering all along the border fence and went back to sleep when they decided to meet at 08:00 and see what can be done ..... yet the Gazans did not wait for them, but broke through the fence at 06:30. The Chief of Staff and the head of the Shin Bet didn't even bother to update the Minister of Defense and the Prime Minister!!! as required by the clear procedure. If only the army commanders would decide to do the minimum required in these emergency cases and instruct the army: 1. Wake up all the soldiers on the border and place them in battle positions. 2. Reinforce the units as much as possible with additional soldiers. 3. Alert the civilian security forces in the kibbutzim and perhaps also order the evacuation of civilians to the rear. 4. Stopping the "Nova" festival and orderly evacuation of the participants. 5. Putting the Air Force on immediate alert and armed aircraft. All of these alone or some of them would have prevented the terrible massacre. (2) Regarding Israeli politics, it is a lie to claim that Netanyahu tried to carry out a "legal coup" and "destroy democracy". Those who destroyed democracy in Israel in a long process starting in 1977 are the left. The victory of the right for the first time in Israel threatened to usurp the power of the monopolies built by the left in its exclusive rule since 1948. Menachem Begin prevented the dismissal of senior leftist officials from government and public positions when he won the elections, and this was his biggest mistake. Those officials began to establish and strengthen their unelected rule in the economic, public, and legal actions and at the same time they hit and failed legal decisions of the Knesset and the government. The left consolidated its economic, judicial, media, and military elites with the help of elitist and anti-public election mechanisms that chose in closed rooms the senior official nominees, such as - judges, lawyers, state auditor, legal advisor to the government, Chiefs of Staff, CEOs of public companies and more. These elites gave franchises to media persons to establish television stations biased against the right. The situation in Israel is that the government and the Knesset cannot legislate and act according to the legal political agenda if the left, which does not have a majority in the Knesset, opposes it. All of Netanyahu's desire is to bring back the Check and balance mechanism and restore the power of the elected Knesset and not to leave the dominance to the self-appointed elite using the "friend brings friend" method to protect their power and money on the cost of the civilians.
@nbach2202 peled has daddy issues. Pappe is a disgraced wannabe academic. Finkelstein is a sociopath Maoist. Sulaiman discovered that bashing his homeland was lucrative
I like Benny but the begining is so bad I won't be watching. He said that the judicial reform, which almost half of the population supported, took the army's attention, as if the army's roll in a democratic society is to adrees political decisions. The army is the main responsible because it neglected it's main roll in order to do politics and help the demonstrations and the people who choose hetzi for the job.
There really is no other solution it’s either 2 states or 1 state with equal rights to all Arabs in the West Bank and gaza, you choose 1 of those 2 options and tell me which one you prefer. No, Arabs will never go away and you cannot control these areas without giving them full rights, I know you imagine a situation where that happens but that cannot happen, choose 1 and explain your thought process.
@@TheLilybird when would you say the support/ money stopped? Given the amounts involved, maybe the Qatar billionaires are still collecting interest off of it. Unless one is a conspiracy theorist, Bibi certainly thought he had Hamas in his pocket ignoring Egyptian intelligence and reports by the female IDF watchers regarding suspicious Hamas activity at the border.
I don't know much middle east history but ,his remarks made me want to ask ,why compare the numbers of Arabs/Muslim states to establish a total Jewish/for Jews state..
Idk if this is a real person or a bot. If anyone reads this Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East & the only safe place for Jews Muslims Christian’s Druze & any other minority.
@@Rexident97it’s not a democracy and even if it is- who cares!!! Still doesn’t give the Jews a right to steal and kill and expulse and apart-heid and torture
11:24 Props to Mr Morris for being able to distinguish between antiZionism and antisemitism. The same way that its important to distinguish between being Jewish and being on board with systematic genocide and ethnic cleansing, even though there is a huge overlap between the two. 🎉🎉
He says "killing Israeli civilians is not a problem for Hamas fighters, they don't have the same morals as people in the west".. Excuse-me but the Israeli army and Israelis in general don't have any problem with killing Palestinian civilians either, they killed way more Palestinian civilians than Hamas ever did, and what morals do they have destroying Gaza the way they do, bombing indiscriminately day and night without respite, killing children, women, first responders, aid workers, journalists, doctors, cutting off water, electricity, and food supplies, annihilating schools, universities, hospitals, mosques, churches, homes, turning Gaza into an inhabitable place, where are the morals in all that?
Why don't you call for release of the hostages???? None of these deaths would have happened if the world and 'moral' people like you had called for what was moral and right on 8th October. You are complicit!
@@bobbygabriel9574 It's the first interview I've watched with Benny Morris and I was disappointed. Anyone demeaning Hamas for their act while sparing the Israeli army for their acts, is not objective. For a historian, not to be objective is a lacking. I agree, Ilan Pappé says it the way it is and isn't biased. Morris's statement that Hamas don't have the same morals as other people, says that he regards them as the barbaric bad ones, below people in the West -the good ones. How racist and simplistic! If he weren't biased he would have regarded the Israeli army's acts in Gaza equally immoral.
think he means more the moral concept of if people believe it's a bad thing when enemy civilians are killed - Most Israelis think it's bad when enemy civilians are killed, and the people who don't believe this - the crazy sorts who genuinely believe 'theres no innocents in Gaza' or whatever - will at least pretend to care in the rhetoric they use. The government positions are all of course on their surface, a value in the loss of civilian life.... and it shocked me to learn of this but like... none of that is true for Palestinians living in Gaza or the occupied West Bank. You can and should go check out polling done by the PCPSR (Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research) - it's a pro-Palestinian and mostly Palestinian operated group - and it's... like I almost don't want to say since it sounds hard to believe but like... it's REALLY clear from the polling that Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank do not view the deaths of Israeli civilians as a bad thing. Less than 2% think Hamas committed any atrocities on Oct 7th, both in Gaza and the West Bank... so it can't be explained by fear of reprisal... Anyways check it out, it's really eye opening for a more western audience who is thinking about it as though these are like... the US and Canada or something lol
Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979. In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity. So where are the geographical roots of the so called Palestinians??????? Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV on March 23, 2012. Stated..........we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis. Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. The so called Palestinians are not even from Palestine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@KingForever-zu5jlCan you imagine - every normal nation has family connections with neighboring nations. In Romania you will find a lot of Romanians with last name Rusu, Ungureanu, Sârbu (which mean Ukrainian, Hungarian, Serbian) and so on. These are amongst the most popular last names. In Ukraine there a lot of people with last names Moskalenko, Voloshenko, Madiar (Russian, Romanian, Hungarian) and so on. So you are accusing the Palestinians of being a normal nation. In fact their enemy "nation" is not normal - half of them artificially changed their European last names to sound "Middle Eastern", like Netanyahu, Ben Gurion, Sharon and so on.
Most of Israelis were killed by IDF and Hamas never fire a single shot on medical evocative vehicles and helicopters. Otherwise no issue with what this gentleman says.
I like Benny Morris but he wrong about the two state solution. I think we should focus on one state solution. It is possible to build a Jewish democratic state for all religions.
No dude. Those guys are just bitter old soviets who are happy to throw the west under the bust for their ideology. I don’t think they even believe what they are saying… just that they want the revolution as much as y’all think you want the caliphate…
Nah. Muslims need to reform and join the rest of the modern world. Islam holds the worst record when it comes to human rights since it’s inception. Israel exists and isn’t going anywhere. Get over it. Put the Quran away for a few years. Get educated, stop at one wife,teach your kids secular values.. Maybe then we can talk.
@@Malachamavet I remind you that Israel is the only Democracy in the whole Middle East. No Arab country is Democratic. Arab Israeli citizens enjoy all the freedoms and rights of any other ethnic group in Israel. You talk about an 'ethnocracy'; so, how many Jews are there in Arab countries? NONE is the word you're looking for, mate, NONE. After 1948, all Jews were ethnically ''cleansed'' from every Arab country where they had been living for two thousand years. Maybe get your head out of your a*se to see the truth.
@@The_kneidlach_engineer your correct but no need to be rascist on the other hand im thinking the same thing about him ...strange to call such a brave well balanced historian like benny Morris that is honest both about what mistakes his side as well as his enemies side has made
@@ashley-fk6dpA spicy joke is no racism. I'm waiting to find a so-called pali or moosie able to be balanced and well informed. Freedom of expresion is for them freedom of aggression against Israel. Big difference
Lilmi 2246 This Historian heart is biased like most of the Munafiqeens Yahoodi sitting among Sahabas as Hypocrites.Sitting this side and thinking more about other's side watching which turn the standing Camel sits - Left or Right so He will be able to extracts his benefits more.
The hypocrites are the ones who think it’s fine and dandy to murder random people because you have a grievance from 4 generations ago. 🤦♀ Stop acting like stroppy adolescents, and start taking actual responsibility for what you’re doing. Mob violence is the most base level form of bullying there is. Y’all should have called that shit out a loooong time ago… The planet isn’t going to handle this shit. The winners will end up with nothing but rubble and three eyed frogs. There is no audience when you murder everyone… and we all know that after the Jews it’s the Christians, then the other heathens… what do you call us? The English colonisers called us the heathens .. you have your own word for the people you’re imperialising.. oh, infidels.. that’s right.. same shit really. Anyway, after the infidels we all know that the sectarian wars start… then you kill pff everyone but your family tribal group.. then what? Matricide? Patricide? Can we just please leave that shit behind? And just make the most of our time here? And if Islam is so great, you’ll be able to demonstrate that to us right?without having to murder everyone..
One simple question for a historian of the state of Israel. Is it true that the IDF needed and used 355 bullets to take the life of Hind Rajab,a 6 year old girl trapped in a car ?
No, it isn't true. They didn't use all that just for her. They killed a bunch of her family members and some paramedics as well. The soldiers involved should have been court-martialed and imprisoned. Sadly, to date, they haven't been. A travesty of justice. What is the purpose of your question? To show that IDF personnel are actually human beings who sometimes make horrible and stupid decisions? Maybe, just maybe, if hamas and the PA policed their own people appropriately and didn't perpetrate and/or promote acts of t err or against Israeli citizens, Israel wouldn't have to step in and put its soldiers in positions to make such horrible decisions. Maybe, just maybe, if Palestinians were as outraged about civilians getting un alived by people claiming to act on their behalf as you and I are about Palestinian civilians getting needlessly un alived by Israeli soldiers, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. We might not even be having this war. How about we get equally outraged when Israeli civilians get K? How about we hold all the people involved to the same moral standard? Can we try that?
One simple question of historical importance ? How and to what degree was Netanyahu involved directly or indirectly in the assassination of the only Israeli prime Minister that tried to broker a peace deal with the Palestinians?
If your’e asking directly, there’s zero evidence for it. But some claim that the protests against the Oslo agreements that he sometimes led were calling to violence against Rabin to some degree.
He led the incitement against Rabin, legitimising his portrayal as traitor & danger to Israel. He went hand in hand with the worst racist religious zionists, polarising society, and creating a false sense of urgency. The murderer said that "I pulled the gun but many stood behind me". Netanyahu bears responsibility, and uses the same propaganda today to undermine Israel's democracy.
I love Benny Morris ! Right now I am reading “Righteous Victims”. Such an insightful book ! A master piece ! Thank you so much for your hard work, professor Morris !
“Righteous Victims” is probably the best book to understand the high level what's going on
@@lequdindoquede78 Yes ! And unlike some other “new historians”, Benny Morris knows how NOT to project the past on the present day Israel. Today’s Israelis are not responsible and should not be punished for what their ancestors did. No one has the right to judge or hate the Israelis for what their forefathers did. A solution must be found on the basis of today’s reality. That’s what I like about Benny Morris !
Anything on the final century of the Ottoman Empire is good also to understand the area.
Morris started low as "new historian" but climbed up a little, since. I agree with his on some historical claims, but surely not as current political interpreter.
@@warmperson2007 - - - What wrong the Israelis' ancestors did wrong? Winning over the Arab invaders?
Thank you. Professor Morris is such an important voice on Israeli thought. It doesn’t matter if you agree with him or not. One has to respect that he is driven by facts, appreciates that most issues have more than one side or interpretation, and that few things are black and white. I wish more historians, politicians, and ordinary people had his level of objectivity.
I am an opponent of benny, but I appreciate and respect his honesty and candor, relative to his peers...
There can be many sides, but only one truth. With Benny, it is as close to the truth as it gets.
Don't think so.
What?!! How could a Nazi occupier on a foreign land be "close to the truth"? All he can do is just lying about the local indigenous population.
He’s a great man. He’s been my number one source for a long time, and this interview is terrific. Good to see so many supportive voices in the comments section.
he was asked why palestine was the only safe place for jews to emigrate to during ww2 by mouin rabbani, he had no answer. do you have one?
@@pilovwithketchupHe answered that question in the debate - it was largely the only safe place.
@@James_ZA rewatch the interview, he did not have an answer. they skipped to another subject
@@pilovwithketchup I literally did watch the 4+ hour debate 3 times. Benny did answer the question before they moved onto more important issues. Benny answered that it was the only safe place, Mouin replied what about the Britain etc etc. It was a topic covered in the debate, albeit briefly.
@@James_ZA And he asked why was Palestine, which is so far away from europe, the only safe place for the immigrants. He said it was the only safe place in the entire world, and did not elaborate further. So simply put, he did not answer the question.
It's a very politically biased opinion. To say that netanyahu is corrupt is very contentious.
Well the Israeli judiciary system seems to think so which is why Netty was trying to limit its powers.
@@bobbygabriel9574 That's false. He was not convicted, and if you follow the trial's progress you know that all the prosecution's witnesses' testimonies are not helping their case. Also, I disagree with the claim that Netanyahu is trying to limit the judiciary system's powers. That a theory but I never heard a proof of it.
I'm not a fan of Netanyhu but I can't say I every encountered a proof of he's corruption. I think he is a bad leader because he is coward. I wish there was someone better than him.
Mr. Morris is a serious fellow with a distinguished set of publications. Claiming that the Israeli government-led initiative to try and reform one of the most powerful judiciary classes in the democratic world by partially limiting its reach to act beyond Israeli law while stating that such a reform was endangering Israel's democracy is so far-fetched that it could rightfully be defined as obscure.
What Israel needs is a Bill of Rights and a constitution. Israel has Basic Laws that be changed by a simple majority in parliament. It's absurd for a western style democracy. It should have been changed in the 1960s
Agreed. That's more of a subjective political opinion than a fact.
@TheLilybird Israel should have upper and lower houses and a constitution.
I wish more people would just listen to Benny Morris. A non-peace is likely to exist for yet another half century. Instead of inventing myths somehow based on a past that never was everyone should indeed try behave moderate and accept reality instead
Moderate. That's what the Arabs have On mind for israelis. Like rape, burning whole families alive, etc. So what can Israel d o? What would any country do, but go into Gaza and take care of this finally.
The end of the video Benny is pessimistic about the zionist enterprise. He says settlement activity will go on and these will lead to the demise of the Jewish state. This is based on the demise of the crusader state in medieval times.
I believe Benny Morris doesn't think Israel will last another 50 years. He referred to the Arab street belief that Sinwa is the new Saladin. Implying that Israel will last only 88 years or around 2038. Netanyahu is too dumb to realise this. It's only how much damage Israel will cause in the region before it dissappear. However Jews will continue to live and prosper in the region.
I really appreciated the justice/injustice and durability/non durability equation Professor Morris offered (around min 13)
oh give me a break he was limiting the unchecked power of the judiciary. you guys need a constitution.
Exactly. But don't try telling truth to naive foreigners.
What about the unchecked powers of Netanyahu?
@bobbygabriel9574 you reveal your ignorance. The PM cannot even control the,army.
@@bobbygabriel9574l don't know which "unchecked" powers you're talking about. He was and still is the ELECTED leader!
Ever heard about democracy?
The GOAT
Wise at nights guy. I recommend appreciating Morris more in the matters of the history of wars between the Arabs and the Jews and not in Israeli domestic politics.
(1) Claiming that Hamas planned and carried out October 7 after Netanyahu won the November 1, 2022 elections is a false claim. This Netanyahu government began its activities in January 2023. Hamas start planning this war several years before and in the meantime built its power in secret. But some right wing leaders, historians and military men claimed for decades that Hamas is a time bomb from birth that should be neutralized at once. Yet the military branch
Denied it and preferred the “easy” way to deal on low profile with Hamas threats.
Hamas practiced breaching the border already in 2020, 2021, 2022, and acted only when it was ready to mission. The Bennett-Ganz-Lapid government allegedly had the same intelligence data as the previous and current Netanyahu governments. This is also not because the Bennett government made life easier for Hamas in Gaza and renewed the entry of Gazan workers into Israel (later known as intelligence collector agents for Hamas), they did not stop the entry of Qatari funds (which is based on Israel's obligations under Oslo Agreement 1993). The October 7th massacre is not due to a harsh or lenient policy towards the Gazans but stems from the Palestinians' raucous desire to throw the Jews into the sea and "liberate Palestine from the river to the sea".
The Israeli failure is a lack of understanding or a political unwillingness to truly understand the goals of the Palestinians, and act accordingly, even if needed to ignore the so-called democratic countries of West which criticize Israel time and again.
The Israeli failure stems from the assumption that the security and intelligence sources claimed that "Hamas is appealing for calm" and that they intend to "rehabilitate the Gaza economy in the next 5 years."
The failure was due to the complacency of the security forces who reduced the collection of tactical and media intelligence on Hamas. The five intelligence gathering balloons along the Gaza border were grounded, reports from female observers about the practice of breaching the border fence were repeatedly not taken seriously and they were reprimanded for snoozing. A thorough research work by NCO & intelligence officer in unit 8200 presented to the senior military commanders was denied and rejected with some disdain. The news that Hamas commanders exchanged their SMS a few hours before the break-in did not change anything among the senior army commanders who were exposed to the information. The Chief of Staff, Chief of Army Intelligence, Head of the Shin Bet spoke by phone at around 03:00 in light of the warning that crowds of Gazans were gathering all along the border fence and went back to sleep when they decided to meet at 08:00 and see what can be done ..... yet the Gazans did not wait for them, but broke through the fence at 06:30. The Chief of Staff and the head of the Shin Bet didn't even bother to update the Minister of Defense and the Prime Minister!!! as required by the clear procedure.
If only the army commanders would decide to do the minimum required in these emergency cases and instruct the army:
1. Wake up all the soldiers on the border and place them in battle positions.
2. Reinforce the units as much as possible with additional soldiers.
3. Alert the civilian security forces in the kibbutzim and perhaps also order the evacuation of civilians to the rear.
4. Stopping the "Nova" festival and orderly evacuation of the participants.
5. Putting the Air Force on immediate alert and armed aircraft.
All of these alone or some of them would have prevented the terrible massacre.
(2) Regarding Israeli politics, it is a lie to claim that Netanyahu tried to carry out a "legal coup" and "destroy democracy". Those who destroyed democracy in Israel in a long process starting in 1977 are the left. The victory of the right for the first time in Israel threatened to usurp the power of the monopolies built by the left in its exclusive rule since 1948.
Menachem Begin prevented the dismissal of senior leftist officials from government and public positions when he won the elections, and this was his biggest mistake. Those officials began to establish and strengthen their unelected rule in the economic, public, and legal actions and at the same time they hit and failed legal decisions of the Knesset and the government. The left consolidated its economic, judicial, media, and military elites with the help of elitist and anti-public election mechanisms that chose in closed rooms the senior official nominees, such as - judges, lawyers, state auditor, legal advisor to the government, Chiefs of Staff, CEOs of public companies and more. These elites gave franchises to media persons to establish television stations biased against the right.
The situation in Israel is that the government and the Knesset cannot legislate and act according to the legal political agenda if the left, which does not have a majority in the Knesset, opposes it.
All of Netanyahu's desire is to bring back the Check and balance mechanism and restore the power of the elected Knesset and not to leave the dominance to the self-appointed elite using the "friend brings friend" method to protect their power and money on the cost of the civilians.
Read 'Empty Wagon ' by Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro.
Read 'General's son' by Miko Peled.
Avi Shlaim books.
Ilan Pappe books.
Norman Finkelstein books.
You've just revealed yourself to be naive or a hater.
Pappe is a disgraced student. Finkelstein is a Maoist. Peled is fighting Oedipal issues.
@@MrAbuYazgod himself wouldn’t stand a chance with you
@nbach2202 peled has daddy issues.
Pappe is a disgraced wannabe academic.
Finkelstein is a sociopath Maoist.
Sulaiman discovered that bashing his homeland was lucrative
@@user-qz7uu2lt4w for sure, Allah stands no chance since he is Muhammad's alter ego.
@@MrAbuYaz you did not refute a single argument
I like Benny but the begining is so bad I won't be watching.
He said that the judicial reform, which almost half of the population supported, took the army's attention, as if the army's roll in a democratic society is to adrees political decisions.
The army is the main responsible because it neglected it's main roll in order to do politics and help the demonstrations and the people who choose hetzi for the job.
Netanyahu is incompetent in his position. That’s what he says, and it is the sad truth !
The ‘Judicial reform’ did not have even 50% support. Likud didn’t put it as a primary election subject.
@@Yara-Lilies lies and more lies are you not tired already??
Obviously not on the prime minister’s political side …
Benni believing in 2 state nightmare & calling Netanyahu government idiots is deeply ironic
Well Netanyahu supporting Hamas up until 10/7 was the definition of idiocy .
@@monicabeaston4996not up until oct 7th.
There really is no other solution it’s either 2 states or 1 state with equal rights to all Arabs in the West Bank and gaza, you choose 1 of those 2 options and tell me which one you prefer.
No, Arabs will never go away and you cannot control these areas without giving them full rights, I know you imagine a situation where that happens but that cannot happen, choose 1 and explain your thought process.
israel lost to hamas on oct7 because of netanyahu
@@TheLilybird when would you say the support/ money stopped? Given the amounts involved, maybe the Qatar billionaires are still collecting interest off of it. Unless one is a conspiracy theorist, Bibi certainly thought he had Hamas in his pocket ignoring Egyptian intelligence and reports by the female IDF watchers regarding suspicious Hamas activity at the border.
Funny. I would say since Shimon Peres and his “Blazers” forced Rabin into Oslo. We have been on a correction course since 2005.
I don't know much middle east history but ,his remarks made me want to ask ,why compare the numbers of Arabs/Muslim states to establish a total Jewish/for Jews state..
Idk if this is a real person or a bot. If anyone reads this Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East & the only safe place for Jews Muslims Christian’s Druze & any other minority.
@@Rexident97it’s not a democracy and even if it is- who cares!!! Still doesn’t give the Jews a right to steal and kill and expulse and apart-heid and torture
Why NOT? And what do you mean is more "total" in Israel than in the Arab states?
Exactly. It's like comparing the numbers of normal honest people to one murderer/robber in order to justify his existence.
11:24 Props to Mr Morris for being able to distinguish between antiZionism and antisemitism. The same way that its important to distinguish between being Jewish and being on board with systematic genocide and ethnic cleansing, even though there is a huge overlap between the two. 🎉🎉
“Being on board with systematic genocide and ethnic cleansing “ do you mean to support Hamas?
@@MrSchellingWhat's wrong in supporting a resistance movement against the Nazi invaders?
He says "killing Israeli civilians is not a problem for Hamas fighters, they don't have the same morals as people in the west".. Excuse-me but the Israeli army and Israelis in general don't have any problem with killing Palestinian civilians either, they killed way more Palestinian civilians than Hamas ever did, and what morals do they have destroying Gaza the way they do, bombing indiscriminately day and night without respite, killing children, women, first responders, aid workers, journalists, doctors, cutting off water, electricity, and food supplies, annihilating schools, universities, hospitals, mosques, churches, homes, turning Gaza into an inhabitable place, where are the morals in all that?
Why don't you call for release of the hostages???? None of these deaths would have happened if the world and 'moral' people like you had called for what was moral and right on 8th October. You are complicit!
CZcams deleted my comment re. Speaking up for release of hostages
That's why Ilan Pappe is a better historian than Morris. Pappe speaks the truth about how Israelis have behaved for 100 years.
@@bobbygabriel9574 It's the first interview I've watched with Benny Morris and I was disappointed. Anyone demeaning Hamas for their act while sparing the Israeli army for their acts, is not objective. For a historian, not to be objective is a lacking. I agree, Ilan Pappé says it the way it is and isn't biased. Morris's statement that Hamas don't have the same morals as other people, says that he regards them as the barbaric bad ones, below people in the West -the good ones. How racist and simplistic! If he weren't biased he would have regarded the Israeli army's acts in Gaza equally immoral.
think he means more the moral concept of if people believe it's a bad thing when enemy civilians are killed - Most Israelis think it's bad when enemy civilians are killed, and the people who don't believe this - the crazy sorts who genuinely believe 'theres no innocents in Gaza' or whatever - will at least pretend to care in the rhetoric they use. The government positions are all of course on their surface, a value in the loss of civilian life.... and it shocked me to learn of this but like... none of that is true for Palestinians living in Gaza or the occupied West Bank. You can and should go check out polling done by the PCPSR (Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research) - it's a pro-Palestinian and mostly Palestinian operated group - and it's... like I almost don't want to say since it sounds hard to believe but like... it's REALLY clear from the polling that Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank do not view the deaths of Israeli civilians as a bad thing. Less than 2% think Hamas committed any atrocities on Oct 7th, both in Gaza and the West Bank... so it can't be explained by fear of reprisal...
Anyways check it out, it's really eye opening for a more western audience who is thinking about it as though these are like... the US and Canada or something lol
Lock him up
Over the past 50 years.
No mention of the nation state law 5 years ago??
Its pretty irrelevant at this time, since nothing came out of it.
Please explain to me Isaiah 53!!!
FREE PALESTINE PEOPLE AND LAND FROM RIVER TO THE SEA
Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979.
In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.
So where are the geographical roots of the so called Palestinians???????
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV on March 23, 2012. Stated..........we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis. Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians.
The so called Palestinians are not even from Palestine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@KingForever-zu5jlCan you imagine - every normal nation has family connections with neighboring nations. In Romania you will find a lot of Romanians with last name Rusu, Ungureanu, Sârbu (which mean Ukrainian, Hungarian, Serbian) and so on. These are amongst the most popular last names. In Ukraine there a lot of people with last names Moskalenko, Voloshenko, Madiar (Russian, Romanian, Hungarian) and so on. So you are accusing the Palestinians of being a normal nation. In fact their enemy "nation" is not normal - half of them artificially changed their European last names to sound "Middle Eastern", like Netanyahu, Ben Gurion, Sharon and so on.
Morris, whom I admire , is far too critical and negative about Israel's situation here We shall see
Bennet for PM.
Most of Israelis were killed by IDF and Hamas never fire a single shot on medical evocative vehicles and helicopters. Otherwise no issue with what this gentleman says.
Probably about 40 to 50 killed by IDF. What people don't talk about, though, is that Hamas killed a lot of soldiers.
Most? You love dead,Jews no matter who does it, eh?
Dumbest, easily disprovable lies
@thinkagain2649 you know that Gaza civillians,also committed atrocities, right? Or you ignore that?
He is too biased
I like Benny Morris but he wrong about the two state solution. I think we should focus on one state solution. It is possible to build a Jewish democratic state for all religions.
Why Jewish state??
At six minutes twenty seconds
BM reluctantly
But honestly
Begins to tell you
FREE USA PEOPLE AND LAND FROM ZIONEST
Compared to the work of Ilan Pappe and Norman Finkelstein, this is a cockroach level of historicizing.
You're funny. Finkelstein is a sociopath.
Pappe? Google him and Haifa,university. He concocted data.
No dude. Those guys are just bitter old soviets who are happy to throw the west under the bust for their ideology. I don’t think they even believe what they are saying… just that they want the revolution as much as y’all think you want the caliphate…
@@MrAbuYaz No a lot of Israelis are psychpaths.
@@MrAbuYaz I wonder who spread that rumour.
Benny can name all the faults but has yet to find a solution. Typical.
FREE WESTERN LEADER ARAB LEADER MUSLIM LEADERS AND WORLD FROM ZIONEST
Nah. Muslims need to reform and join the rest of the modern world. Islam holds the worst record when it comes to human rights since it’s inception. Israel exists and isn’t going anywhere. Get over it. Put the Quran away for a few years. Get educated, stop at one wife,teach your kids secular values.. Maybe then we can talk.
Wow this guy is brainwashed - omg the lies and distortion!
It’s all Netanyahu’s fault! You have to wonder if you are in the same side as all of Israel’s enemies maybe you should reevaluate your views
Is there a "Palestinian Benny Morris"?
Actually, a thousand times better, I.e. Norman Finklestein
@@mohammadsufiyaan5330lies. Finklestien literally debated Morris on his own books and wouldn’t accept Morris description of what he wrote!
Finkelstein is not palestinian.
@@beniluv3250 Yes, he's not!
@@oyeahjustcomenting Can u be a bit specific or a link pls?
Regarding 'Judeasim or democracy? Oh, I'm not sure I can answer that. LOL.
As usual, no answers just criticisms.
He punted because he doesn't want to deal with the fact more Israelis prefer ethnocracy over democracy
@@Malachamavet I remind you that Israel is the only Democracy in the whole Middle East. No Arab country is Democratic.
Arab Israeli citizens enjoy all the freedoms and rights of any other ethnic group in Israel. You talk about an 'ethnocracy'; so, how many Jews are there in Arab countries?
NONE is the word you're looking for, mate, NONE. After 1948, all Jews were ethnically ''cleansed'' from every Arab country where they had been living for two thousand years.
Maybe get your head out of your a*se to see the truth.
it should be re-titled, "Benny Morris Answers with 18 Lies on Israel"
Such one sided views
Ok Ismail, go back to your tent. Don't forget your rusty 47' 😂
Can you provide Arab archive documents? He’s live to read it.
@@The_kneidlach_engineer your correct but no need to be rascist on the other hand im thinking the same thing about him ...strange to call such a brave well balanced historian like benny Morris that is honest both about what mistakes his side as well as his enemies side has made
@@ashley-fk6dpA spicy joke is no racism. I'm waiting to find a so-called pali or moosie able to be balanced and well informed. Freedom of expresion is for them freedom of aggression against Israel. Big difference
@@Yara-LiForget it. Only in democracies...
No solutions form this comedian.....😂😂😂
Lilmi 2246
This Historian heart is biased like most of the Munafiqeens Yahoodi sitting among Sahabas as Hypocrites.Sitting this side and thinking more about other's side watching which turn the standing Camel sits - Left or Right so He will be able to extracts his benefits more.
The hypocrites are the ones who think it’s fine and dandy to murder random people because you have a grievance from 4 generations ago. 🤦♀
Stop acting like stroppy adolescents, and start taking actual responsibility for what you’re doing. Mob violence is the most base level form of bullying there is. Y’all should have called that shit out a loooong time ago… The planet isn’t going to handle this shit. The winners will end up with nothing but rubble and three eyed frogs. There is no audience when you murder everyone… and we all know that after the Jews it’s the Christians, then the other heathens… what do you call us? The English colonisers called us the heathens .. you have your own word for the people you’re imperialising.. oh, infidels.. that’s right.. same shit really.
Anyway, after the infidels we all know that the sectarian wars start… then you kill pff everyone but your family tribal group.. then what? Matricide? Patricide?
Can we just please leave that shit behind? And just make the most of our time here? And if Islam is so great, you’ll be able to demonstrate that to us right?without having to murder everyone..
He is being too gloomy and negative, me thinks.
One simple question for a historian of the state of Israel. Is it true that the IDF needed and used 355 bullets to take the life of Hind Rajab,a 6 year old girl trapped in a car ?
😂😂😂😂😂
No, it isn't true. They didn't use all that just for her. They killed a bunch of her family members and some paramedics as well. The soldiers involved should have been court-martialed and imprisoned. Sadly, to date, they haven't been. A travesty of justice.
What is the purpose of your question? To show that IDF personnel are actually human beings who sometimes make horrible and stupid decisions? Maybe, just maybe, if hamas and the PA policed their own people appropriately and didn't perpetrate and/or promote acts of t err or against Israeli citizens, Israel wouldn't have to step in and put its soldiers in positions to make such horrible decisions. Maybe, just maybe, if Palestinians were as outraged about civilians getting un alived by people claiming to act on their behalf as you and I are about Palestinian civilians getting needlessly un alived by Israeli soldiers, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. We might not even be having this war. How about we get equally outraged when Israeli civilians get K? How about we hold all the people involved to the same moral standard? Can we try that?
More Arab propaganda lies
Yes. It was the 355th that did the trick.
Of course not. But you know that don’t you Putin.
One simple question of historical importance ? How and to what degree was Netanyahu involved directly or indirectly in the assassination of the only Israeli prime Minister that tried to broker a peace deal with the Palestinians?
If your’e asking directly, there’s zero evidence for it. But some claim that the protests against the Oslo agreements that he sometimes led were calling to violence against Rabin to some degree.
Crapola
Very good question - I wouldn't put anything past him.
He led the incitement against Rabin, legitimising his portrayal as traitor & danger to Israel. He went hand in hand with the worst racist religious zionists, polarising society, and creating a false sense of urgency. The murderer said that "I pulled the gun but many stood behind me". Netanyahu bears responsibility, and uses the same propaganda today to undermine Israel's democracy.