Remove old fungus with Hydrogenperoxide in Pre-Ai Nikkor 50mm 1:1.4
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2017
- I would just try to see if I could remove A LOT of old fungus with Hydrogen Peroxide 3% in my old Pre-Ai Nikkor 50mm 1:1.4.
And it turn out to be very good, after that I clean the lens element's surface with lighter fluid, just to take away the rest of residues.
Here are some link's to different repair tool's and lubricating stuff:
"ORBIT" HEPA Blower:
photosol.com/products/orbit-h...
You can buy it here:
www.adorama.com/cpkhjdb.html
"Liqui-Moly" LM 50 Litho HT:
www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-L...
"Liqui-Moly" LM47 MoS2 grease with Molybdenum disulfide:
products.liqui-moly.com/lm-47...
or on Amazon:
www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-3...
Contact glue:
www.loctiteproducts.com/en/pr...
Japan Hobby Tool rubber cone:
www.amazon.com/Japan-Vacuum-C...
18 different size rubber repair tool's:
www.amazon.com/Sizes-Lens-Fil...
You can also buy this set.
Lens Repair Set with pointed, flat, half flat tips:
www.amazon.com/dp/B00QRPWCN0/...
JIS cross head screw driver's:
www.amazon.com/Moody-Tools-58...
Or this set, that is the set I use:
eustore.ifixit.com/en/Tools/D...
Lens cleaning wipes (PEC-PAD):
www.amazon.com/dp/B0161VIZZ8/...
Thin Cotton Buds x 200 you can buy them here:
www.muji.eu/pages/online.asp?...
DSLRKIT Pro Lens Vise Tool Repair Filter Ring Ajustment Steel 27mm to 130mm:
www.amazon.com/DSLRKIT-Repair...
Japan Hobby Tool Helical Grease Made in Japan:
www.amazon.com/Japan-Hobby-He...
Loctite 222 50ml Threadlocker
www.amazon.com/Henkel-Loctite...
Who else was holding their breathe when he was taking the compass to the retaining ring? My god the suspense. This is great content!
This guy knows his stuff. Applying that much pressure without the tool slipping is not something you want to try without a lot of experience. Thumbs Up
Kenal bare ore kato
I've always believed that you should know how to work on the equipment you own.your video not only taught me how to clean these lenses, but it also taught me how to get them apart to work on them a lot better than a lot of other videos I've seen. And with basic tools that anybody can get their hands on. Thank you for such an informative piece of content.
Thank you for adding the English commentary, I really appreciate it. I find your videos to be very informative and well done.
I enjoy watching these videos and it is much better to hear you voice, watching your videos has led to my wife and I removing the front element of a Leitz Elmar F2.8 for cleaning purposes. Thanks for your inspiration.
Well done Kenneth, as we say in English - "nothing ventured, nothing gained". Your videos are a great guide, cheers!
Thank's James :-)
The “hehehe”after the successful cleaning made me happy too 😊
Weirdly relaxing, I don't even own a lens to clean, but your voice and watching the process was sort of addictive ! : )
*Love* watching your attention to detail as you do these.
I love how simple these old nikkors are built. They are very easy to dismantle, after you take each part out it looks like you are doing it on your own without much thinking. After I cleaned my 55mm 1,2f Pre AI it felt like I knew exactly how to dismantle it while I was doing it for the first time. Cant say the same thing about Russian Helios 44-6 for example... Quite tricky focusing helicoid, easy to take out hard to set it back correctly.
Good to see someone carrying out professional work without all the professional tools, which are sometimes very expensive and little used.
A Job well done, without someone saying how you have all these crazy expensive specialist tools, just straightforward equipment anyone may have or could buy cheaply, plus a steady hand and a little bit of know how;)
Practice makes perfect and most ALL beginners make mistakes, even the best goof once in a while?
Excellent démonstration. Complete with problems and how to overcome them. Easy to follow. Lots of sticky steps but done with such patience. Will tackle my Nikon fungus infected lens with confidence!
Well done! I have the same lens and I am happy that there is no fungus among us in there. I hope I never have to perform this process, but if I do, you have helped me. Thank you.
This is great. My repair guy fixed a nikkor 50mm 1.2 for me. He used to work for Nikon so worth the money for me for the peace of mind.
Wow! I just wrote a comment on another video saying that I had a fungus spot on a Zuiko 50mm f/1.4 and your video appears on my recommended list. I need to get the courage to dismantle it. This is a really useful video!!
Superb video! I really like your English commentary - it adds so much.
I love the high tech lens disassembly tool, with flowers yet ! You could spend $500.00 and not get a better tool, and it can’t damage the device, amazing
Very nice, thank you. As others commented, the narration adds greatly to the video.
On Ebay this lens is now worth at least 2x this. Cleaning the glasses took just a few minutes. I like this channel.
You give me great self-confidence? Those rubber tools are amazing! 👍👍👍👍👍
I've watched this one several times in the last 2 years. There's nothing like restoring one of these old pieces to shiny optical loveliness, especially when they looked a bit forgone.
Hello Milenko, I just want to thank your remarkable intelligence, having no appropriate tools and sometimes guessing the result you come out with success, never has been easy to remove fungus from a lens indeed is sometimes very difficult myself couldn't clean my Nikon binoculars from fungus traces, all good optics are made in a milimetrical way disassembling could be sometimes easy, putting all together again is not. Forget about the I-Know-All guys, they maybe professionals on it, you are the genious here, THANKS for demonstrating that the Okhams razor works here as in all big cientific deals+++
Great video
I wish i had your confidence and skills
What a menace fungus is
Just completed the oxidation and removal of fungus on my Nikkor 50mm f1.8 lens at back of the front element with 6% hydrogen peroxide, and it worked! Thanks Kenneth!
WOW WOW that's great to know James, I think it's very interesting when it work's and one have an almost "new" lens.
Cheers
Kenneth
Fantastic! Thank you for the commentary as well. This was a very informative demonstration.
Many thank's, and I just now upload a new video about, Remove old fungus with Hydrogenperoxid 3% in Nikon Nikkor Pre-Ai 200mm 1:4, it is also a very intersting video on trying to clean a lens from old fungus on the lens element's.
Cheers
Kenneth
I loved watching this man, do more please!
Thank's George, and I will make more video's when I have the time.
wonderful step step by step tutorial, i was looking for ways to clean few of my old nikon and PK mount analogue lenses. Thank you again.
Thanks for this video. I was listening to it while taking an old Practiker lens apart and it gave me a few ideas for how to go about it. I wouldn't have known about the hydrogen peroxide too.
Just found this. Very nicely done. Thanks.
Great video, thanks for posting it.
Fascinating. Thank you for putting this video out. The prospect of dismantling a lens, and hopefully putting it all back together, seemed rather daunting before watching this. Although I wouldn't necessarily try it myself, it's good to see it's not 'brain surgery' skill :) More modern lens with all the electronics would be undoubtedly more of a challenge I can assume though.
im dreading cleaning my vintage lenses now.... great video sir.
Well done and talk about persistence! Excellent!
When re-inserting a lens into its retaining ring you should *always* place it on a soft pillar and then lift its ring up around it until the lens lifts off the pillar. The retaining ring must first be placed the correct way up on the table and surrounding the pillar. The pillar can be anything smaller than the lens but soft enough not to damage the glass lens. Tissue will easily protect the lens from the pillar. A shot glass or a small plastic container will do for a pillar. Dropping a lens into its retaining ring is very likely to make it twist and it may lock solid and even chip the edge! Edge chips are very common on old telescopes.
Thanks for this advice👍
Awesome, great work. Where did you get the rubber cones to dismount the various rings? Thank you
Very helpful visor and your voice is so soothing. Thank you for sharing.
Very useful..Thank you for taking the time to post.
An excellent and informative video, good to see the tools you are using, many thanks.
Excellent work! Thank you for that very useful tip. I have a Nikkor lens (35mm - 70mm F2.8) that someone sold me a year ago and they misrepresented the extent of fungus damage. In fact, they claimed it had none and their images of the lens were taken in such a way as to not allow the bidder to see the fungus. Long story short, I should have just returned it but for some stupid reason, I just complained that it wasn't worth the price I won it for and suggested that I would keep it if he refunded $50 of the $250 I paid.
I think I was tired and thought he would object and reject my counter offer. Then I figured I would send it back and be done with it. However, he accepted the counter offer and refunded me $50... I am now stuck with a lens that I couldn't sell for 1/10th of what I paid for it.
I'm going to try to use that cleaning process. I have many tools and am a first class machinist (retired) by trade. However, I'm going to have to find a set of rubber cups like those that you used to unscrew the various lens sections. I need to see if you happened to list where you got those from. I should be able to find a spanner wrench somewhere but if I can't, I can always make one.
The 35-70mm F2.8 lens was a good lens in its day but the fungus really made it practically useless. The camera I shoot with most of the time is heavy enough, (Nikon D4S), and this 30/70mm lens is quite heavy for such a small lens but I may keep it if I can clean it.
Thanks again,
Rich
Very instructive video - so many good tips! Thank you very much for letting us have a look over your shoulder. Many greetings from Germany.
Thank's and it's great it can help you :-)
Thank you kind sir a lot of good information and no music ..wonderful.
I would only ask to see some pictures from before and after the clean up, thank you very much for the video! :)
Fantastic video showing a rather tricky procedure. Not too much gear and straight to the point.
Thank's Josh.
This is interesting! I pulled out my Tassco spotting scope last week and to my surprise the zoom eyepiece was sporting the same symptoms. Didn't know what it was other than moisture related. Cleaned affected lenses with just glass cleaner and allowed them to dry. Reassembled and no issues. Now that I know its fungus relatedI I'll bring out my UV Prom chip eraser and let it shine down the apertures from both ends for a while followed by placing it in an airtight container with silica gel kitty litter that I have dried even better, fresh out of the bag and holding in a sealed mason jar until I need to use it.
Great video, one recommendation is that the retainer ring used on the last lens group appeared to have been scratched when the dividers slipped. You might want to give it a coating of lamp black or what is more commonly called soot. You can use a tall candle flame that is smokey and give it a coat to kill the shininess of the metal. This way you will not experience strange reflections within the lens.
Well done. I enjoyed the part showing where you had most difficulty - because of the threadlock - removing the ring, because it helped me learn not to expect that it will always be easy. and that I must be patient and keep trying.
Yeah, it's not always easy to repair lenses and cameras.
Very very interesting and educational. Hydrogen Peroxide is interesting stuff - I use it (at the same percentages as you use) to clean my orchid roots when repotting. I love those old lenses, I use old Canon's and Pentax cameras - the glass is fabulous.
Hello. I worked in a camera repair store in Washington, D.C. for a year fixing cameras, from cheapo snap shot, to Leicas and Exactas. The lens technician, very nice quiet guy, showed me some of his repairs and cleaning lenses. From what I remember, he never used lighter fluid on the actual glass element, only glass cleaner. Lighter fluid is an oil, and leaves a film on the surface. So, unless you clean that off, it can change the performance of the glass, and may actually promote fungus or clouding. Otherwise, a nice tutorial, and I will have dig out some old lenses and try this. It makes so much sense to use peroxide, but I have never heard of it.
I'm sorry but you're wrong about lighter fluid. Lighter fluid, as all petroleum distillates, is not an oil. Quite the opposite actually: they are very good solvents, furthermore, they evaporate quite rapidly, so there's no need to wipe them off. That said I don't know if lighter fluid is adequate for cleaning lenses.
I watch at this video almost 100 time. It is fascinant, you are a good teacher. Then I want to test my skill and I buy the cheapist but lovely lens nikon 50mm f/1.4 from Japan on e-bay. A lot of fungus inside etc. Today I received at post office and now it is clean. First impresion : it is very small, on our video I see it huge. It seams fragile too. Unfortunately my variant is k2, a bit different of this, with many modernisations. But your lessons help me a lot. Especialy patience and acetone all the time. Thank you.
Wow, that's great to know Valentin.
Wonderfully educational and instructive video. Thank You for posting!
Thank you :-)
thank you for this demonstration! I was able to successfully remove fungus off my lens myself.
Very useful and thorough video with links.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I am just starting to try my hand at making cinematic short films. The kit lens with my dslr is not the best, but I had my old camera bag from the 80’s and 90’s in a closet. $20 adapter rings would save many $1000’s in new glass. Unfortunately all have gotten fungus in them. The perils of living in Florida, I suppose. But now I’m going to try my hand at cleaning them so I can use them. Again many thanks!
That sound's great with the use of old lens to make video's and film's, some of the old lenses has a great bokhe and they can render the pictures very good and different compare to new and crystal clear (but a little boring..) lenses.
It's not a hard job to fix the old manuel focus lenses, one just have the correct tool's and the correct cleaning fluid.
Here is some link to some repair tools.
Japan Hobby Tool rubber cone:
www.amazon.com/Japan-Vacuum-Camera-Opener-Repair/dp/B0013HFYKK/ref=pd_sbs_469_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0013HFYKK&pd_rd_r=RKSF5A4YKT9GV3E1382C&pd_rd_w=5H58m&pd_rd_wg=DBny2&psc=1&refRID=RKSF5A4YKT9GV3E1382C
18 different size rubber repair tool's:
www.amazon.com/Sizes-Lens-Filter-Wrench-Rubber/dp/B00988D1BK/ref=pd_sbs_469_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00988D1BK&pd_rd_r=RKSF5A4YKT9GV3E1382C&pd_rd_w=5H58m&pd_rd_wg=DBny2&psc=1&refRID=RKSF5A4YKT9GV3E1382C
Divider Caliper Wing Compass:
www.amazon.co.uk/Divider-Caliper-Compass-Marking-Machinist/dp/B015CN9A8M
JIS cross head screw driver's:
www.amazon.com/Moody-Tools-58-0219-Chromium-Screwdriver/dp/B004PGO1T6/ref=pd_sim_421_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004PGO1T6&pd_rd_r=775KBDR03D8PMMEZWKFJ&pd_rd_w=ti7yC&pd_rd_wg=s2a40&psc=1&refRID=775KBDR03D8PMMEZWKFJ
Lens cleaning wipes (PEC-PAD):
www.amazon.com/dp/B0161VIZZ8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0161VIZZ8&pd_rd_wg=ZTxxY&pd_rd_r=RNY8S6Q1V5K18K3F61VZ&pd_rd_w=2c1Oy
And you will also need some Isopropylalcohol 99%
And sometimes Lighter Fluid that is very good to clean lens element's NOTE:
Do NOT! use Acetone on platic part's, it will damage / melting the plastic!!!
Thank you very, very, very, very much; I wish I knew this ten years ago because of the several quality used lenses I turned down from buying secondhand.
Great job, well done, fantastic video explaining how to.
Thank you for sharing this treasure!
Cracking video so well explained. Going to find some old secondhand lens to practice on first! Cheers!
You're da man...
Nicely explained, I have some Carl Zeiss Jena lenses with fungus (the famous 2.8 / 180 for 6x6 e.g.) which I have new hope for now. Thank you a lot dude.
Watching this was stressful lol but the end result was extremely satisfying. I want to do this to my favorite radioactive Super-Takumar 50/1.4 M42
Thanks Joey, and yes it can be a little tricky to cleaning lens elements. And about the Super-Takumar 1:1.4/50 M42, I have actually made 2 videos about taht lens, the one about cleaning the lens elements, that you can see here: czcams.com/video/2Yd8NwDtiQc/video.html
And the other which is about oil on the aperture blades that you can see here: czcams.com/video/2tQMQYeR2ic/video.html
Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. This was very useful to me!
Many thanks for your time and expertise!
For the rings I made my wrench out of a cheap pair of vernier calipers. I had to square off the inside measuring pieces but it was worth it to have a tool that doesn't flex and slip. Those calipers you used are fine because of necessity but if anyone is looking around for something to sacrifice to the job - file up the vernier calipers for 12 bucks or less.
Thanks for sharing. I've been looking for this kind of work process of how to work on old lenses for quite sometime now. This is very helpful for me cause I still use old lenses with my DSLR for shooting video. Please, show us more of how to do more works to save old beautiful glass and f-stop like the high speed lenses. Again, thank you very much for your informative lesson.
I used 9% peroxide to remove fungus from a Yashica electro 35, it cleaned up all the fungus when isopropyl alcohol wasn't working. Thanks for the tip.
Great vid! ... One Q, shouldn't you have tried to clean residual fungus and spores from the elements chambers?
Thx!
Wow! What a difference!
Wow great job!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
This works, fungus webs on the rear element of a mint condition 135mm f3.5 for $20.00.
Look just like this.
Spanner wrench is a must to have. It worked now it's crystal clear.
9:58 the death grip, i always am waiting for it to slip and take out my glass.
great movie, I did learn something important, thank you
Thank you for this excellent video.
Hmm, I might just have a go at couple of old OM1 lenses that have become inhabited by unwanted life-beings! Thanks for a great video.
Great video and very informative, even though I winced when you were using metal tools with force on a glass element! Otherwise, many thanks and I will dig out my 1960s fungus infested lenses immediately.
I was going to buy a lens with fungus issues and could not find a photo shop that would do what you showed seemed very straight forward process to me
Of course with the right tool's, it is actually "Pretty straightforward", one just have to be careful when working close to lens element's, but it's great to see how good those old lenses can be after a service like this.
you make it look so easy...
Thanks for the detailed information!
Thank you for the video.
It is very very very interesting work. Many many thanks for it.
Epic effort.
Great work!
hebat dengan postingan ini aku mungkin bisa membongkar nikkor 50mm f 1:1.4 sendiri tapi yang saya inginkan seperti karet pemutar tak ada dijual di indonesia sehingga terpaksa aku mesti kreatif meski tak sempurna yaitu dengan roda sepatu anak yang aku rusak. sukses utuk pembuat tutor postingan ini ..... salam hangat dari saya, tk
Brilliant.....well done !!!
Nice video. Unfortunately if the fungus has been in the lens for too long, it eats into the optical coating and creates a permanent haze. I acquired a couple of lenses with that condition and beyond repair.. One lens, I was able to easily pull the front element out (200mm f/2.5) and clean the fungus off.
when the fungus is really really bad it will etch tracks in the glass that look like a snail went across the glass. I got a collection of enlarging lenses for free and half of them were bad with fungus and a few were salvageable but several had really bad etching.
Thank you for the video
Very interesting video and helpful, I might even have a go myself now😁👍
PERFECT JOB
wow, great work done
I never knew you could clean up a lens with fungus wo easily. Very informative and educational! YOu are great! Thanks for so much new information, and thanks for your Amazon links below description. I see many tools and greases I thought were impossible for me to find in a store. Much thanks and live well sir. By the way do you also show how to recement objective lenses where canadian balsam bonding has failed?
this video help taking a part toklin 500m mirror lens i had removed fungus on the lens and the mirror with 50% isoproppyl alcohol it did kill fungus.
Mike, thank you for your explanation, it was great!!! I just have a question: Can I use this method to clean a 50 mm 1.4 AIS? What is the different with the Pre Ai? Thank you
the internal construction should be the same, the only external difference on an AI lens is the back of the aperture ring has notches on it to line up with the auto indexing mechanism on later Nikon bodies, where Non AI lenses the back of the aperture ring is smooth all the way around. there are a lot of tutorials on here that will explain and show it in detail so you know exactly what your'e looking at.
Very interesting and informative video,thank you very much. Is there a risk to damage the coating of the lenses with hydrogenperoxid and gas for lighters ?
Lighter fluid combined with friction of the mechanical cleaning surely can wipe away soft coatings of older lenses. Be careful!
Amazing video!
First class video.
Great job. Thank you.
Nice work!
Fortunately the lens coating seems intact.
Was hydrogen peroxide really required?
My very old large format camera lens seemed to have an organic coating. The fungus came off with ordinary lens cleaner but the coating had been eaten away in some areas. The camera produces good negatives but I didn't feel so good after so much labour.
Same with my monocular scope.
Thanks for the video!
perfect, thank you!
Great video! I have this exact lens!
Fantastic Video~
Hi Mike, great videos, thanks for all your effort! I would like to know, if is OK to use lighter fluid and acetone on,lenses MC (multi coated) or ED without getting off the coated ?
Thanks for sharing sir 👍
I enjoy very much your video: please tell me what do you do with COLLATED elements. Do you soak them to? Thanks
Hi, excellent video, very detailed and informative!
What body are you using this lens with?
Thanks