British Airways Business Class / Club World Review - 787-9 Dreamliner - Tokyo to Heathrow (BA6)
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- British Airways ( BA ) Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner Business Class / Club World Review - BA6 - Tokyo (Narita) to London (Heathrow)
Join me on board as I review the British Airways 787-9 Business Class, or Club World as BA call it, product in their brand new 'Dreamliner'.
This route (BA6) had been flown by Boeing 777s until the day before my flight! The 787-9 we flew in (G-ZBKI) was actually only certified to fly in March 2016.
I didn't get a chance to film the lounge so be sure to check out a video of he JAL Sakura lounge on made on the return flight: • JAL Sakura Business Lo...
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Date: 10/07/2016
Flight: BA6 (NRT to LHR)
Aircraft: Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, G-ZBKI, manufactured in March 2016.
Seat: 7A
Travel class: Club world / business class
Camera: Sony A6300
Video editing program: iMovie
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Brilliant video Paul. Awesome narrating and report!
Thanks Harrison!
Really enjoyed the narration. Keep on doing it for your future reviews😁
Thanks mate. The narration is a new thing so I'm glad to hear that you like it. :)
Excellent flight report, nice video mate!
Thanks mate
I love these videos Paul they are wonderful, thanks
Glad you enjoy them Susan. :) Be sure to click the thumbs up button and subscribe for the latest updates. :)
An interesting flight review Paul. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching
Great video and narration, I enjoyed it!
Thanks mate. The narration is new so I'm keen to hear what people think. :)
An interesting video Paul. Thanks for posting.
Thanks mate
Sensational flight review.
Thanks mate.
Check out my video of a 787-8 taking off from Cardiff Airport, Wales here... czcams.com/video/yfO4NbdYV5M/video.html
Such a good video mate 😃
Thanks James.
Nice coverage
Thanks mate.
Loving the new voice over!
Thanks Harry.
Awesome review mate
Thanks mate. Be sure to check out my review of the first class product in the 787-9 too :)
Wow,
That was a good review
Keep it up :)
Thanks mate
YES, I've been waiting for this 😃😃😀, liked by me
:)
Safe flight on every adventure of yours, Paul.
Thanks Hendri. :)
You're welcome! And... Keep posting. :D
Great trip review. The voice-over + captions are awesome. I will fly BA's ClubWorld for the first time next month. There are mixed reviews on the seats configuration and I decided to try by myself.
Thanks mate. :) Hope you enjoy your flight! What route is it?
KUL to LHR
Enjoy! I'm flying KUL-LHR on Sun 9th of Sept :)
Fabulous video! Great seat by the Rolls Royce engine! Liked!
Thanks mate. Yep I love looking out the window at that RR logo. :)
Great review mate! It really is a shame the position BA have put themselves in. You are right, it is an average business class. Such a shame on their new 789's. Thanks for the detail mate!
Thanks mate.
They say sitting backwards is safer as you don't get thrown forward. In Munich air crash of 1958 a lot of the survivors were sitting backwards. Good review.
Thanks Paul. An interesting comment about sitting backwards. I suppose it makes sense that if you do stop suddenly then being pushed into your own seat is probably a lot less damaging that being pushed into the back of the seat in front of you. Thanks for watching. :)
Interesting video. The 787 is a great looking aircraft!
Thanks
Thanks for the review, I will be in 7A for 10+ hours in a week's time!
Safe flight!
Awesome video! Tbh I found the window seat comfortable and generally good, but there's an extreme lack of privacy if seated in aisle. :D
Thanks mate. Yep I agree, the window seat is OK but the aisle seats are rather average.
They have the same business class layout in the 20+ year old 747, such a shame as you would think they would bring out an all new business class for a new generation of aircraft. Great vid!
Thanks Joel. I totally agree. It's sad to see a legacy carrier like BA doing so poorly.
Thanks Joel. I totally agree. It's sad to see a legacy carrier like BA doing so poorly.
Thanks mate. I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying my narration. I'm thinking that I might re-edit a few of my other videos in the near future too. :)
There's no doubt that I feel incredibly fortunate to fly in business class and I wouldn't for a moment suggest that this BA product isn't a lot nicer than any economy or premium economy product in the air. Having said that, in comparison to many other similar priced (if not cheaper!) business class offerings, it really doesn't compete. For example, BA club world between Sydney and Heathrow is around $7-8K while I can get a Vietnam Airlines 787 and A350 for $3.9K! Vietnam are an extreme example, but other airlines like JAL and Finnair (both well respected) often have SYD-LHR return flights in the mid $5Ks.
Oh, and on the topic of caviar, I've never actually tried it before. I've used frequent flyer points to book Qantas First SYD-LHR next month and need to youtube how to actually eat the stuff. haha
Yep you're right although I'm not sure if they've officially launched it or if the photos were leaked. Either way, it remains a very high density product that is already behind their current competitors.
Thank you very much for this thorough review..it helps me a lot. I am missing the menue and the wine list, though. The BA seating arrangement is indeed well below best industry practise. Yet, on their 787, it seems to me that at least you dont have to climb over the feet of your neighbour to get out from a window seat..is this right? The impression remains that BA is trying to squeeze as many as possible pax into the cabin..which makes this overall a "cheap" and certainly not a premium product (no champagne beofre take off..gosh..thats really cheap). I am planning a C trip to HKG early next year and BA is 320 € cheaper than CX with their A350 all aisle access cabin...but CX is a direct flight from Germany. I am still pondering whether i should really save the money and fly BA--I tend to spend a bit more and fly CX..why should i spend my money on such a mediocre product...
Hi mate, thanks for the comments. Yep sorry about missing the menu and wine list. I didn't realise until afterwards that i forgot to take photos of those as I usually include them. I'll be sure to include them in upcoming videos. You're right, in the window seat, you don't have to climb over your neighbour at all. It really is the only decent seat on the aircraft. :)
Have you seen my video of the CX A350 business product? It's a whole generation ahead of BA. :)
Its a shame british airways decided to make this change, its a but unfortunate that this has happened but great review like always and keep the great work up (here for the giveaway lmao XD but ur content is really good for real)
I usually manage to get a good deal with B.A. in their business class long haul so value for money they are fine. However if I was paying a premium price I would not use them in preference to many other airlines, although I'd still opt for B.A. over any U.S. carrier. (not sure about American these days they have upped their game since I last used them)
The new seats can't come quick enough. That said, it's still a comfortable experience and the service and food and top notch.
Yep there's no doubt that it's more comfy that economy or premium economy, although it's not on par with a lot of other business class products.
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Thank you
Good commentary and objective thoughts on the service. Really sad that the business-class product on one of their newer aircraft is only okay. The aspects I would change if I were running BA are 1) priority boarding, why feel like cattle if you are paying for a premium product? 2) have the seating similar to United new Polaris seating (777-300ER), it is a much better seating configuration; 3) have the cabin prepared with amenity kits and headphones prior to takeoff; and 4) improve the menu, your dinner did not look good to me as a vegetarian option. If I were flying this route I think I would choose ANA.
Thanks for watching. I agree with all of your points. :)
Great video ! (expecially the engine haha!) Howabout adding funny jokes into it ? make things more livelier xD
Thanks mate. Do you have any suggestions about what sorts of jokes you'd like to hear? :)
Up to your creativity actually, i laugh at anything ! but honestly what I do enjoy the most is your vids are more natural and nicely planned, you dont have to change just follow your heart desires ! Perhaps show more of the seat instead of just viewing at it at certain angle and maybe hw the crew were to service you cause we are all in for the service and the comfort when we board a plane.
We are in the forward mini cabin on our next flight. Hope it's quiet. The Dreamliner is a quiet plane so hope it's easier to nod off than in the 777.
It's funny you say that because over the last few days I've flown in both a 777 and 787 and the latter was soooo much quieter at cruising speed. Safe travels!
@@PaulStewartAviation I have flown 787 several times but this is the first time in business class. I will report back after the flight on which plane was easiest to nod off on
Great to see your review !!! But its very weird for those who sit in the rear-facing business class seat !
Thanks for watching Alan. :)
Is the product identical to the club world seats in the 777?
Yes, horrible.
Great video Paul. It's sad to see the state of a once great airline.
Agreed.
Thanks for sharing! I'd find it a little weird being seated backwards though!
Thanks for watching. :)
Booked Club World for October on BA's new route to Nashville on they 787-8.
Hope you have a nice flight Tom! All jokes aside, it's not a bad product and certainly far more comfortable than travelling in economy or prem econ.
Indeed - we wanted a convenient flight to see friends in Alabama and got CW at a reasonable price.
We have booked Emirates new Business Class on their 777-300 next March - have you had chance to do a review of this yet?
Hi mate, I've only flown Emirates business class in their larger A380. :)
This is a route I want to try badly
Try BA, they will do it badly for you!
I wonder how Air Asia's flatbed compares since they're prices for APAC flights are similar to larger cariers
Absolutely. I'd be keen to test out Air Asia's flat beds although I must admit that I'm a little nervous about their safety...
The beginning of the video says Club Europe, but this is Club World?
Damn sorry you're right. I missed that typo! :(
The layout and space is pure trash for business class.
I agree.
The absolute worst!
good video
I hope you'll come to Japan again someday.
Hi mate, thanks for watching. I have visited Japan a few times. Be sure to check out a few of my other videos of flights into and out of Japan. :)
You should do capital connection Singapore-Canberra-Wellington would love to see a review on it
I've considered it but Singapore Airlines put old 777s on that route with the regional business class product so it's not really worth testing.
Paul Stewart oh ok it goes to my local airport and it's quite cool seeing something that big at Wellington and I wanted to see what it's like but thanks for the reply
Ron Ramsey are you doing it to or from Wellington?
BA needs some SERIOUS reformation or they won’t be able to compete for much longer. I feel like they should just start again. New cabin new uniform new everything really.
The crew uniform is the least of their concerns :)
Hi, what software do you use for your route map?
Hey mate, I use iMovie.
Nice video, I flew on this same 787-9 to Toronto, Canada in July. BA business class is unique which i like. I will defo fly again with BA. I have been on Emirates for a tour only which is obviously better but I still prefer BA business class.
Hey mate, thanks for watching. I'm fortunate enough to fly BA's first class in the 787-9 next month so I'll be sure to report how that went.
Which Emirates aircraft did you tour on? The A380 has a vastly better business class than the 777 product.
It was the A380, it was in Toronto. I had airside access via a youtuber i subscribed to, we met up and had a free tour. He works in a hanger at Toronto airport so he knows all the contacts
Sounds great! :)
Yup! i will be uploading my BA business class experience soon, also enjoy your first class flight too :)
I look forward to it! I'm off into the air on Thursday too. :)
Now i know why someone i know always finds their business class is the cheapest when he's searching for flights.
Interesting. Certainly from Australia, BA are fairly expensive. I actually booked this via JAL on a JL flight number.
Hi Ron, I've only flown in JAl 788s and 77Ws I'm afraid. Both had the sky suite business class seat and you can see my review of the 77W here: :) czcams.com/video/OYq7i14jCVA/video.html
The seats are 2-3-2 on the 787-8 and -9. It's 2-4-2 on the 777, 747 and A380.
You're right - sorry about the error.
Nice vid paul just 1 question you said your next video was was on the 29th of September not today
Hey mate, yep I'm going through and editing some of my old videos. :) My next proper flight in in Sept 29th. :)
Ah ok i get it cheers
No probs. I must admit that my explanation would be somewhat confusing. :)
The Club World layout on a 787 is 2 - 3 - 2 NOT 2 - 4 - 2.
Apologies, I was wrong there.
Was the service done over the divider ?
Hi mate, when the divider was down, they reached across through it (I should note that there was no one sitting next to me) but when it was up, they reached around through the space where I entered my seat (near where that fold down footstool was.
Although the 787-9 is an amazing aircraft. I don't see how it can replace Qantas's 744s. I think a 777 would do the job better...
Hey mate, I think that QF's plans are to replace one or two large flights with more regular smaller flights and thus allowing more options to passengers. The other issue is that the 777 is getting old now and an all-new 777X is due to be released in the next few year so the logical thing to do would be to wait for the new aircraft. Having said that, production of the 777X isn't probably going to be up and running for more than 5 years time and QF would be hoping to replace a few of their 747s before then. It would have been great if QF were launch partners of the 777X although I suspect there's quite a bit of bad blood between QF and Boeing because the 787 was delayed by so many years.
Glad you're keeping the narration, what microphone do you use?
Thanks. I just use whatever the macbook air comes with. :) I purchased a microphone but I didn't notice any difference so I'm returning it tomorrow.
Paul Stewart What was it?
I don't recall the name of it sorry. It was about $50AUD
Paul Stewart I just got the Rode NTUSB, highly recommend that... although it costs $165 AUD. I used it in my latest flight review if you need a test (on my channel TravelFlow)
Where do you get this map software from at 0:10?
Hey mate, it's in iMovie. :)
Paul Stewart cheers :)
-Julian
Interesting video Paul. It appears BA have been resting on their laurels? Their product certainly doesn't compare well with the likes of Qatar!
Thanks for watching. I'd tend to agree with you.
maybe because, unlike the middle east carriers, BA doesn't receive an unlimited amount of government funding that keeps said airlines alive. Cut their funding off anf they would be bankrupt within a year
Emirates made a profit last year. @@sean2209
Business class with no airport lounge service ?
Access is given to the JAL Sakura lounge.
THEY JUST DO NOT GET IT AS COMPETITION IS NOW AMAZING ON MANY CARRIERS AS YOUARE AWARE BUTAPPRENTLY THEBRITS STILL LOVE THEIR AIRLINE
No we don't, I hate BA and sadly I'm a Brit. I think they should be banned from flying my flag on the tail, their Spanish!!!!!
My BA business class to Chennai and return were absolutely terrible and I will never fly with them again unless there is absolutely no choice. Agree the seating is terrible, as was the food, salmon (packed with bones!) and the service, well there wasn't any. My complaints were treated with derision by this shocking and incompetent airline. Do not fly BA if you want a decent and comfortable long haul flight! Even their legal department got the wrong flight in their defence. Aggghhhh....
Prisoner 7a, your cell awaits.
:)
Nice video, but the lay out on the B787 is not 2-4-2 but 2-3-2
I stand corrected.
Paul Stewart surely 1 seat less is an improvement?
Oh sorry, this is what happens when I reply to comments when I'm half asleep!!! :)
I don't understand why they didn't offer champagne.
Bad service
The slogan to fly to serve should be changed in welcome on board to our bad service
Yeh it put a dampener on things right from the start.
Wow BA has gone down hill since I last flew them. I really dislike the seating arrangement. When I absolutly have to fly BA would not be my first, second or third choice. I rarely fly so when I do I usually go first class, but if that's business class, I shudder to think what first class is like. Damn shame because I always thought BA was at the top of their game. To many bean counters worrying about the bottom line..
Absolutely Keith. Check out my review of the first class seat in the 787 too. It was my worst first class experience.
'Seasonal Japanese vegetables'. That'll be carrot and green beans then... No. Not close.
BA has a great reputation of highest safety and poor quality Club World/Club Europe unless you opt for the First Class then you will see the different. I would not choose to fly with BA on the long haul flight. There are many airlines out there whom can offer a better value for what you pay for business class.
I completely agree. :)
The layout is actually 2-3-2
Yep sorry about that.
I really enjoy your videos though!
Thanks mate :)
www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/about-ba/fleet-facts/boeing787-9
It really does just beggar belief that BA have carried that awful business class seat onto their new 787's. Very bizarre
It's true, this was their change to fix it...
I wish it could fly with warp speed so that the hell in that business class would be over in less than a nano second. I would be flying with BA Business class soon and I have been hit with depression and sadness after seeing the product. This product would win everything in the CWAS awards. CWAS stands for Crap, Worthless and SHITE.
No champagne? Is that new?
I think I may have just had bad luck with the crew. I understand that some countries don't allow alcohol to be served when the plane is still on the ground, but I don't think that's an issue in Japan. I suspect the crew just couldn't be bothered (or cost cutting...)
Can't believe they have seats facing each other in business! That's just stupid
better then many other airlines business where u are actually sat next to a stranger! BA is far from the worst Business class, the seat is comfy and once in the air it is pretty private in many seats
2 3 2
I stand corrected, sorry about that.
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That seat was terrible! Old, cramped and image sitting backwards on a flight! Terrible!
Agreed
British Airways is a joke these days
Yeah they're not great.
However they make a profit which most airlines can only dream of, so in that sense they are doing something right. Passengers keep flying with BA and until they stop flying with them they don’t need to do much apart from keeping the shareholders happy and paying a dividend. A new club seat will be coming with the 350s and the 787-10s with direct aisle access.