The Carnivore's Dilemma: Is It Ethical to Eat MEAT from Industrial Farms? | ENDEVR Documentary
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- The Carnivore's Dilemma: Is It Ethical to Eat MEAT from Industrial Farms? | Meat Lobby | Business Documentary from 2018
In this film, first-time father and prize-winning journalist Benoît Bringer investigates whether we should still eat meat. As the population grows and the pressure to provide cheap food increases, there has been a drive towards relentless productivity and industrialized farming. Animal cruelty, major health issues and environmental damage are inevitable consequences. We can all see the problem. But are there alternatives? The documentary goes on a journey to the United States, Portugal, France, Sweden and Germany and reveals the worst excesses of industrial farming and positive alternatives.
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Piglet to other pigs: " they are fattening us up so they can send us to be slaughtered" other pigs: " your a conspiracy theorists"
Lol
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I've been grappling with this for a long time, but if you chip away at all the externalities, at it's core, at the fundamental level, there's no justification or reason to killing animals for their meat.
I agree. The same is true of other products produced by exploiting animals.
Correct. Your health will be better. You will save a lot of money. It's so easy to clean up after prepping a meatless meal.
AM surprise a lot of people dont watch these videos and just look on how much we are just running for the money and not stopping to notice what your eating when you go for a lunch brreak
The voiceover in this sounds like an instructional video from the 70’s. If that’s what you were going for you nailed it.
This will never happen if governments was not going to bed with the corporations
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I gradually became a vegetarian over the years. I couldn't see any point in contributing to the demise of the planet and bad treatment of animals. The video also failed to address the massive amounts of drugs given to these animals to prevent them from getting diseases. Still, it was a great video. I don't miss meat whatsoever.
So great. Now to stop supporting the grinding up of baby chicks and the stealing of babies from mothers in the egg and dairy industry?
Of course you dont miss meat if you got dairy eggs
@@texmexspm You are mistaken. The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared-
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes. A vegetarian diet is defined as one that does not include meat (including fowl) or seafood, or products containing those foods. This article reviews the current data related to key nutrients for vegetarians including protein, n-3 fatty acids, iron, zinc, iodine, calcium, and vitamins D and B-12. A vegetarian diet can meet current recommendations for all of these nutrients. In some cases, supplements or fortified foods can provide useful amounts of important nutrients. An evidence- based review showed that vegetarian diets can be nutritionally adequate in pregnancy and result in positive maternal and infant health outcomes. The results of an evidence-based review showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with a lower risk of death from ischemic heart disease. Vegetarians also appear to have lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, and lower rates of hypertension and type 2 diabetes than nonvegetarians. Furthermore, vegetarians tend to have a lower body mass index and lower overall cancer rates. Features of a vegetarian diet that may reduce risk of chronic disease include lower intakes of saturated fat and cholesterol and higher intakes of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, soy products, fiber, and phytochemicals. The variability of dietary practices among vegetarians makes individual assessment of dietary adequacy essential. In addition to assessing dietary adequacy, food and nutrition professionals can also play key roles in educating vegetarians about sources of specific nutrients, food purchase and preparation, and dietary modifications to meet their needs."
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@@jackmichaelpeter The video showed an egg farmer who said he buys the chicks. Those female egg laying chicks were produced by grinding male chicks alive, as you said. Sometimes they are suffocated instead.
Correct
It is primarily a question of whether you're willing to critique or fight capitalism. It's greed and maximising profits at any cost that are destructive. Money does not bleed, or feel, or go hungry. Animals and people do. No matter what the food chain you're part of is like, there shouldn't be needless suffering (like animal abuse, human exploitation, or toxic chemicals).
The system of power profit control are destroying the human life expectency. We must be the light and become each our own leaders. Truth Freedom Health lets all be the light that shines on the next generation.
Why is it called 'common sense' when in fact it is the least common?
As a key component of the perpetuation of
oppression, all alienation must be destroyed. As long as we can ignore the suffering in the slaughterhouse, in the vivisection lab, we can ignore the conditions of the third world, the urban ghetto, child labor, human traffic, etc
Animals are less than humans not by nature, but by active dehumanization, a process by which people consciously deprive animals of their value.
Human exploitation and consumption of animals are facilitated by alienation.
People couldn't live the way they do - at the expense of animal suffering - if they understood the real effects of such consumption
It is absurd to think that a society that oppresses
non-human animals can become a society that does not oppress humans. Recognizing the
animal oppression then becomes a prerequisite for radical social change.
The humans who are abused tend to mistreat others, and animals are among the easiest victims. This exposes yet another reason why
those concerned about the welfare of animals
must combat social oppression.
The inability to speak or reasoning "intelligently" does not subject infants or people with severe mental retardation at the violence that millions of non-humans suffer daily
Everything in our society,today it tells us that we "need" drugs and meat.
What we really need is to destroy that kind of society.
ROFLMAO repeatedly for centuries to come. Animals ARE NOT HUMANS they are a food source PERIOD!!! Don't like it don't eat meat.
@@rispatha so going by your logic and since humans are animals, you are advocating cannibalism..oh well
@@madrededeus ... Are humans really animals or are we just being told that we are to dehumanize humans and bring them down to the level of animals?
@@rispatha Told by whom...??
And who benefit..??
Animals are intelligent, have emotions, drink water, eat food, copulate, make babies
The humans (rational animals) do precisely the same
Well said, I've recently come to very similar conclusions. It will be a long road as many societies live in places that would be unsustainable to live without raising meat. The world would have to help feed itself/properly spread the food around, which would require a very different world.
No it's not ethical.
Invester heavily in the Research of Lab Grown Meat.
When this matches the taste and texture of farm meat, and becomes cheaper than Farm meat, then eventually killing animal for food will stop.
And our future generations will look at us regarding animal farming as we look at Slavery now.
It doesn’t matter whether it’s ethical or not. Ethics is irrelevant. As much as I’m for lab grown meat, I still don’t want these activist values to succeed. I rather still have limited factory farming than allow the eating of animals to stop. We eat them and they get eaten and this should not change
I've never been happier to be vegan. Do not support industrial farming, you vote with your wallet.
hear hear
Everyone’s ‘woke’ when it comes to knocking industrial farming/agriculture until they see basic prices in the grocery store multiply tenfold.
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Conflating 'woke' culture with animal rights is wrong. Believing animals deserve not to be abused is not 'woke'.
@@jackmichaelpeter woke sjws knock industrial agriculture that doesn’t imply a conflative equal sign between the two variables.
@@plonialmoni4232 there’s no connection that is meaningful. It’s an insult to conflate the two: wokeness and animal rights. Two very different things
It is not right to eat any animal!
It's so nice to see inteligent farmers at last.
Good documentary , showing the truth, about what can be.👍✌️
So do the chickens ever go outside if all the food is inside
The answer is they hardly ever go outside due to overcrowding
No.
Not sure where u buy your food? But food fir a family of 3 is our second highest bill every month
Hi, God bless you all whom made this informative and educational videos happened. Eat meats ethically, sustainably and environmentally friendly with respect to their well fare and rights to all beautiful, smart, and innocent living animals and being.
I think if we eat three times a day and keep our belly's under control..... We just need to start more agrofarming, used less chemicals an just dedicate our time taking care of the animals
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Excellent documentary
Glad you liked it!
What does the farmer say at the end of the show? (No English subtitles.)
Over crowding is cruel practice
The way we kill and eat animals I'm surprised we don't kill and eat human beings too. The irony of life.
5:27 That little piggy is so cute.
42:00 about a 10x fall in supply efficiency and 2x demand growth
Eat Less, Use Less, it is sustainable for human & mother earth.
Great watch!!👊, it would have helped if the sustainable farming solutions feature were named so viewers can research further.
Search Albert bartlett
Let's save the planet 🌏 🌍 🌎 🗺
Plant based alternatives are more expensive than meat. Two linda mc carty plant based burgers at lidl are 1.40 in the UK. There are other alternatives to hers but not many. Tofu is the same price as meat in many cases. When greed takes over we all lose.
There is not a food shortage, there is a farmer shortage & growing our own garden shortage. Self sustainable is the problem!!!! Commercialized & mass production is the problem. In the late 70's my grandpa said this would one day become a problem & the world is now at that point where mass production & centralized limited access is not the answer!!!! The one place we get everything is not the answer, the day of no more mom & pop stores have been pushed out & now Walmart & the few access point that everything is available has brought the world to a crisis once a pandemic came along & slowed or shutdown the limited access points & it now where we are......Buy the seeds & start growing your own again!!!!
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Thanks!
How about letting people raise their own animal's like we did 30 years ago now it's against the law.
Animals have their own rights 🐁 We do not have any right to do anything to an animal except for setting it free and giving it safety and not harming it 🐓
God blesses and rescues them all 🐈⬛
The male chicks can be raised for meat as well. Albeit, it's tougher. But it's still food.
its not food it is violence. corpses arent food. please live vegan, be kind to animals from now on. search Veganuary/ Challenge 22
Meat is meat !
People their vision these days is ME ME ME and soon everything will be finished by this mentality ... We are living day by day these days and whenever something happens we are all ready to point fingers but we are not willing to change and make the changes arround us ... Thags why rich people will be gone to another planet soon and we will have our own planet with all the garbage and all the poor conditions of life ... But i am glad that someone is making good documentary but i wonder if that makes any difference between people... We are all living without caring about anyone arround us ... This is the superior race of this planet !!
Thank you
Sustainable livestock may be more humane but still unsustainable to feed 10 billion people who consumes 2-4 meals a day.
How else will they be able to feed people?????? Let's hear it from the genius experts. I'm waiting.
I guess none of you that doesn't eat your meat will get any pudding according to Pink Floyd. :D :P
It’s not ethical to eat Meat period . I been thriving on a plant based lifestyle & there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to either . #respectmothernature #loveforALLanimals
That's a rabbits diet I want a nice steak or a whole leg 🦵 of lamb. Tastes so good 👍
That's a trick question. It is unethical to eat meat from Any farm. It is unethical to wear leather or fur. It is unethical to eat dairy products.
Unethical or Unhealthy? It's out of control. People are getting fatter and sicker. That is the real issue.
A lot of people forget that farm animals are often on land that isn't suitable for production of crops because of poor soil quality, swampy, too many rocks, very hilly and uneven etc
Maybe but you forget the massive deforestation that occurs in order to produce food (soy, etc) for cattle
Eating to live does not require meat. Eating meat is a choice. Consume what your philosophy allows.
I EAT MEAT PERIOD, your approval is not needed and surely your disapproval is not needed either.
@@rispatha Exactly what I’m saying.
Cows are part of the solution to climate change : )
I recommend reading this book or searching the authors videos.
Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat: Why Well-Raised Meat Is Good for You and Good for the Planet.
Book by Diana Rodgers and Robb Wolf
14:12 I wonder why
I prefer to look an animal in the eye before I eat it. Ask it if it has any final words, if wants a blindfold or a last cigarette.
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lol. I like animals more than people.. The people should be forced into the "machine" .. maybe coming soon.
1. We need more farmers like Jude Becker, John Brunnquell, Jacques, John Wood.
2. Male chicks should be sold to Asia as we eat baby quail. Many countries in the world are not so wasteful.
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we need 0 animal farmers (animal abusers) and animal rights. please live vegan. be kind to animals. search Veganuary/ Challenge 22
Sorry folks, it seems my generation ruined a lot of wholesome things, including farming soil for you.
Hex Foodies talks about this. They teach sustainability and growing from a first-principles approach. I’ve learned how to sustainably recover land, how to heat a home and how to better clothe myself from their channel - it’s marvelous 🤗
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A wild foul doesn't take twenty years to grow to full size. A human doesn't take that long to grow to full size. He's talking crazy. How long does it take for a bird, any bird to grow to full size? A swan for instance. Less than a year, the parents get rid of them to start a new family before the next year.
I believe the 'twenty years for a water fowl' was the water fowls entire life span, not the length of time to become 'fully grown'.
@@jackmichaelpeter Yes, I know but that's not what he said. I was being spiteful. None the less I was right. I don't know how long egg laying chickens live. But I do know it's longer than a few weeks.
@@toni4729 egg laying chicks is roughly 1-4 years i believe. Why be spiteful? Are you angry at the findings? Emotionally impacted for some reason?
No I don’t think the guys in the documentary believe that a water fowl takes 20 years to get to their largest size…. That’s dumb
@@jackmichaelpeter He said it. Some people are daft enough to believe. That's all.
@@toni4729 if you look at 13:00 minutes Toni, I think you’ll find they say is, and I quote, “what is the normal life expectancy of a chicken?” “If you take a wild jungle fowl, which is where these birds ultimately come from, 20 years.”
They are talking about life expectancy. They are clearly not discussing ‘fully grown in size’ but rather the length of their life, into old age and by definition, even the associated shrinking in size.
So I don’t think you’ll have to go far to find the idiot that misunderstood what they say…..
6:32
18:51
30:00
Of course it isn’t.
60% are still farrowed in uk
Excellent documentary. Unfortunately ethical is only possible for the upper classes. For the regular Joe, is almost impossible to afford the prices of animal protein from these companies because takes longer to get the eggs, meat or fish. Same goes for vegetables. Organic food is way more expensive. To get cheaper food, corporations don't really care about animal feelings. Only the way to maximize the profit. Sad but true.
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Our food system is completely broken.
Cheapest foods are plant foods, and they are not even largely subsidiesed, unlike animal agriculture
That’s because we’ve put our food subsidies on to animal centric foods and junk foods. If we subsidize vegetables and fruits, these healthy foods will be affordable. However, our GDP will collapse because not many will participate in the sickness revenue- our economic growth comes from medicines and surgeries, unfortunately.
No
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Pobrecitos los animalitos como si no sufrieran pero, la gente ahora es más carnívora que los mismos y propios animales carnívoros toda una barbaridad lo que hacen y deshacen con los animales matan millones de animales en granjas intensivas, industriales así como una caserita o de "emprendimiento" y en los mataderos ni qué decir pero, muchos no quieren que la gente sepa todo lo esconden hacen ver como si los animales fueran "felices" al matadero o a darle su lechita pero, ya darán cuentas a Dios de cómo administran las cosas en esta tierra
If you like meat but dislike the way animals are treated in factory farms then the choice is simple. Either go hunting or buy from farmers who treat animals in a humane way. Will it be a bit more expensive? Sure, but you will know you arent contributing to a big ethical problem AND you may end up eating meat less often which is also not a bad thing. We really dont need it multiple times a day.
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Is it *SAFE* 2 feed cats & daggs plants?
No, not in the long-term. Dogs, cats, and humans are obligate hyper-carnivores, meaning greater than 70% of their diet needs to come from animal sources for optimal nutrition.
If you want your dog, cat, or self, to live your best life, eat no/few plants.
Best health of my life, and further improving every day.
So youve reduced your meat to exclude factor farmed animals. you must have reduced by 95% then? Seeing as 95% is the rough average that are factory farmed. Why not just cut it out entirely if you're reducing it that much?
Why not be allowed to grow your own food on you property without the government stepping in and bitching about it?
Can you tell me why studies show a greater prevalence of mental illnesses among vegans and vegetarians?
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle they don’t, so far as I’m aware.
If there is, I haven’t seen them.
I would assume that it’s correlative. People who are of a kind of mind that has empathy for animals are likely to be either higher in trait neuroticism or more aware of the cruelty of the world, and therefore higher susceptibility to certain ‘mental illness’, as you say.
Why? What do the studies conclude is the reason why ‘vegans’ are higher in ‘mental illness’? What do YOU think the reason is?
@@jackmichaelpeter Vegetarianism and veganism compared with mental health and cognitive outcomes: a systematic review and meta-analysis
Isabel Iguacel et al. Nutr Rev. 2021.
“Conclusions: Vegan or vegetarian diets were related to a higher risk of depression and lower anxiety scores, but no differences for other outcomes were found. Subgroup analyses of anxiety showed a higher risk of anxiety, mainly in participants under 26 years of age and in studies with a higher quality. More studies with better overall quality are needed to make clear positive or negative associations.”
Vegetarian diet and mental disorders: results from a representative community survey
“Vegetarians displayed elevated prevalence rates for depressive disorders, anxiety disorders and somatoform disorders. Due to the matching procedure, the findings cannot be explained by socio-demographic characteristics of vegetarians (e.g. higher rates of females, predominant residency in urban areas, high proportion of singles). The analysis of the respective ages at adoption of a vegetarian diet and onset of a mental disorder showed that the adoption of the vegetarian diet tends to follow the onset of mental disorders.”
The studies conclude nothing for sure, but the likely theory is due to deficiencies.
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle yes you’re right, these studies conclude nothing.
They are likely cherry picked. You undoubtedly searched for studies concluding your predetermined conclusion no doubt?
Despite that last studies conclusion, they claim that there is no socio demographic conflicting factors due to their ‘matching procedure’, I’m very skeptical that there is no correlation here, I.e. higher rates of neuroticism or a higher capacity for empathy due to personally. Give me another study that breaks down every single participants personality and then I’ll consider that worth a further look.
Also, you’ve come to the conclusion that the ‘likely theory’ is deficiency.
Ok. Show me the study then. Show me the study that concludes, or at least investigates, this ‘likely theory’?
So far, you are believing this theory with absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
People should eat less meat
Just make it all in English subtitles are annoying
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You dont gotta watch the video guys, the answer is "yes, meat is always ethically sourced, its just meat"
PEOPLE SHOULD ONLY EAT ANIMALS IF THEY HAVE IN THEM TO KILL A CHICKEN, GOAT OR ANY ANIMAL WITH THEIR OWN HANDS. OTHERWISE THEY ARE LIVING HYPOCRITICAL LIFE AND ARE DECEIVING THEMSELVES.
Edit:
Even if you are eating meat in a fancy restaurant and are not killing any animal directly, you ARE killing them otherwise meat industry would have no incentive to produce.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE!
And if you don't understand/ignore this fact, justify it by arguments like humane killing, animals have no senses etc., while at the same time having a "soft corner" for all species, it isn't a truthful life that you and your family is living...
However, of you don't care for truth & responsibility, then ignore these words.
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Line ‘em up
I never enjoyed killing anything except pesky bugs. I even avoid stepping on ants if I can help it. Chicken culling makes me really mad!
The simple answer: No.
It would be much more ethical to have sexual intercourse with animals, even harmless. Just like most sexuality is harmless and doesn't cause harm to other living beings or the environment.
Moral and 'ethic' is something created by society over time and tradition, it has nothing to do with what is actually harmlful , harmless or horrible.
For example is it ethical to castrate our dogs and cats and keep them in a closed space or even in an appartment their entire lifes? Of course not, it is horrible. They have social and sexual needs just as much (or even more strongly during mating season) than we do. It is a horrible what we do with animals completely legally.
Industrial mass production is even worse where animals have no space to often even move and have to stand on metal floors or bars their entire lifes.
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@@sarahpeterman5373 HAHAHAAH XDDDD
just change our diet, from meat to edible insect, same protein less space
Wait and watch.. vegan products will be so much better so the animals can be free and live in safety 🐄
Greenhouse gas emissions are not caused by animals, not that much anyway. Between three and five percent. The rest is caused by machinery, Electicity generation 28.4% Transportation 28.5%. Industry 21%, Home heating etc. 6.5%, Agriculture crops etc. 4.7%.Agriculture livestock 3.9%. The rest is Agriculture fuels and odd and ends.
This documentary never made the claim that 18% of all GHGs where caused by the animals themselves. The entirety of the animal agriculture industry is responsible for 18%, so that includes the machinery, the land use, the run off, the crops grown to feed animals etc etc etc
@@jackmichaelpeter how many cattle are in India (300 million, right?)? How many cattle are in the world? How much of an environmental impact does the general lack of consuming cattle in India have on global emissions?
There are three vegan arguments:
For the planet
For the animals
For health
Two of those are provably wrong (for the planet and for our health), and I don’t think I’d like to live a hard life of scrounging in the woods just do die to a predator or sickness if I was an animal. I’d take a farm over the wilderness.
Tell me how much damage to the environment your plant agriculture is doing? And does plant agriculture properly build and fertilize the soil, or cause topsoil erosion?
Tell me, why did our brains shrink after the agricultural revolution?
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle animal agriculture uses 3/4 more land.
Methane emissions.
Biosphere destruction. Deforestation.
So many reasons that animals agriculture is more destructive than plant agriculture.
Plant based agriculture is not perfect. You can combat top soul erosion by managing the land well. Allowing natural species to live on the land from time to time. No need for herds of forcibly bred cattle at all.
There is also the issue of antibiotic resistance, but I suppose that could be lumped into health? If you don’t believe that antibiotic resistance is an issue, you know nothing. Probably wrong? You need to do some research.
I eat meat and i kill my own chickens and i hunt deer, hogs, ducks etc. Im farm lots of chickens and i love farming, but sometimes when i see professional farmers it doesnt feel right. Mine live outside in mobile huts (900 chickens and 300 roosters that just get to live). That feels right and i have no problem killing them after 2 years for roosters and never for chickens they can live till natural death. I dont buy meat anymore and im glad i dont have to.
I SEE MANY HYPOCRATE
This not even 1% of what ours meat came from
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Eating a steak 🥩 watching more steaks being made…
The Carnivore's Dilema....
Well, humans are omnivorous, not strictly carnivorous. Also, if one chooses to eat meat, THERE IS NO DILEMA!!!!!!!
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#BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
And all the forests of the world are being cut down to feed animals which when we eat them kill us. They seem to have forgotten we need the oxygen. And who is planting new forests?
Most of the air you breathe comes from the ocean 🌊 🤣
IF, oxygen comes from the ocean, maybe that's the next mess we should examine. Oceans are very polluted and getting worse daily. I think currently japan is dumping nuclear contaminated water into it from their wrecked nuclear plants from years ago. Think of all the nuclear waste and other contaminants dumped illegally into them. We've also nuclear submarines and their weapons down there rusting away. Well, I personally feel we'll all be killed by a biological weapon, this PLANdemic was just the social engineering phase. Most will take the LIABILITY FREE vaccines without thinking. They could spray us all in their Geoengineering aircraft around the world, I wonder what they're spraying, is it really to help ???? I know every tree around me looks very poorly. Covered in all kinds of different molds or whatever. It's a shame no one cares by me, but HEY, maybe your favorite sports team is winning, gotta love the distractions of " bread and circus ".
@MrGHLover107 James smith just answered your poor question
@@pancakesrule That is an unfounded theory. You could get us all killed believing you.
@@JamesSmith-jq2jc That's exactly what I have learned and how I feel. You said it better than me. Thank you!
I'm ok with the treatment as long as my meat prices are cheap. Do u want to pay $25 for bacon? Or $5 bucks? Perhaps the more fundamental issue is helping us make more money so that we can afford the higher prices that comes from better animal treatment.
If the meat prices goes up 3x so ppl are not offended from farm animals, than the value of my paycheck should also go up 3x. Otherwise, I would have to support the $5 dollar bacon.
I would make a good bet that you are unhealthy and lack any cardio conditioning.
@@texmexspm it's actually the opposite. I have good weight. Not obese or fat, not skinny either. No belly. Considered healthy by my doctor. No health issues. I'm also a runner. Fastest time for 5k is 19:08. Furthest I've ran was 13 miles, which is a half marathon.
I eat 3 meals a day. I don't overeat. I tell ppl to throw their food away if they're full, which I get criticized for. I'm told that there's ppl dying from hunger, so food should never be "thrown away". But I live in America, where poor ppl are fat. If ur full, stop eating. We have too much food in America, thanks to the greedy corporations who likes to mass produce.
@@noctis129 ignore him
those woke people think you cant be healthy consuming meat, we humans are omnivores
@@noctis129 If you are constantly getting full before you finish what is on your plate... start with less on it!
@@life42theuniverse that's what I'm saying. And if ur full stop eating.
I don't care if it's ethical I just want a slice of bacon once in awhile darn it.
Don't forget the ketchup 😃
Animal-eaters have no right to make any comments about animal cruelty.
Uh, we do. Rights are inherent and, depending on whom you ask, god-given.
On top of that, more animals die to produce plant products than animals die to produce animal products.
Pesticides, insecticides, and rodenticides, anyone?
How about the animals caught in the harvesters? What about the animals that get shot for trying to eat the crops being grown?
One cow can feed a person for around a year. That’s one death.
Just because you do not consume animals does not mean that you are not responsible for deaths.
You’re just responsible for wasteful deaths that you don’t have to look at.
It's not just meat but all foods and pretty much everything ... we just waste too much
Are you eating alot of fast food? That is the only time I get "caught" wasting food
Usually when I make dinner lunch or breakfast I go a little under what I think will fill me and clean my plate regardless, if I'm starving somehow I'll make half more
That's just me though what's your experience in food waste?
explain how any food gets wasted? I'm 100% sure you have no idea of the entire journey of food. Do you think expired food from stores just gets thrown out?
@@baptistejean4316 ... Ever look in a restaurant's trash bins? Ever been to the dump? The waste is unbelievable
@@chrystalelizabeth Yup, I have my BA in culinary arts, been cooking in kitchens for 15+yrs. I'm very aware of what goes into the trash bins. Are you familiar where that "food waste" goes after? It mostly goes to feed animals such as pigs, etc. So it really isn't wasting is it?
@@chrystalelizabeth i mean it even gets burned into electricity
well, as a consumer, i dont really care, how any product is produced, including meat. That really isnt my problem. I care about price. I only know, if i would be animal farmer, those would be the happiest animals in the world.
Is it ethical for a hawk to catch a hare? If not, why not? How's a hawk suppose to survive without eating meat? And why should a human different from a hawk? Do humans claim to have a higher moral than hawks? Does hawks have moral? I would say most hawks have high moral than some humans. At least hawks do not systematically, intentionally kill each other. If hawk can eat meat, so can human.
The difference is that humans can survive without meat, unless in a very particular circumstance.
@@peterchui1964 So it is moral to eat meat under very particular circumstance. Who decide when and what is a particular circumstance? You?
@@whiteknuckles no, because it's clear when someone absolutely must hunt an animal to survive. In modern society you don't need meat to survive.
@@peterchui1964 I live in modern society, and I need meat to survive. Good for you if you don't, but don't speak for me.
@@whiteknuckles sorry, but the vast majority of people do not need meat to survive. They *want* meat. If meat became unavailable tomorrow, we won't die because of it. We'd eat other stuff.
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Meat is food. What noise is this? Animal protein where I come from is grass-fed and sustainable. Some communities eat Meat Milk and blood and they have no cancer issues.
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Meat meat and meat,
More meat please it is the food of life 🥰
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I love how your comment summarizes humanity's train of thought right before civilization collapses
I could care less....bacon is too yummy!
One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.
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That is out of context. There was not factory farming in those days. This is about people getting sick from this garbage meat. You eat what the animals ate.
@@kate60 Romans 14:2
Yes it is ethical. Stop threating animals like humans
It's the bad quality. It's making people very sick. Beware of the real cost of cheap meat.
@@kate60 Yes I can agree with that
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Lab grown meat is the answer!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I’m all for lab grown meat but even if we have lab grown meat we should still kill and eat animals on occasion just to stick it to animal rights and prevent them to create the degenerate ethical world. I rather have more animal death than allow these degenerates to have the last laught
@@kazkk2321 .. You hurt innocent animaIs for your seIfish🔴neeeds ? Or you’re vegan ? Yes or no question 🤷🏼♂️.
@@kazkk2321 wow are you serious?
Yeah, mind telling me how? Even the scientists are failing to scale it up.
If lab grown meat is what we were supposed to eat, why’s it so hard? How did we survive so long? Do you really think that we ever would have made it to this point if our most optimal diet was not long discovered? It’s the muscle meat and associated fats from large ruminant animals, with occasional spats of organ if we want.
Our brains have shrank since the agricultural revolution. Our brains got big after we started eating (and later cooking) meat… then, we cut back on meat, and they got smaller. Hm.
Yes. We are the top of the food chain for a reason.
Where Do Humans Really Rank on the Food Chain?
We’re not at the top, but towards the middle, at a level similar to pigs and anchovies.
Source: Ask Smithsonian 2017. A Smithsonian magazine special report.
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@@lorah3005 thanks for declaring yourself a beta, good to know.
So might makes right? Because we CAN do something it means it is ethically permissible? So because someone can abuse you, that makes it right because they are higher on the hierarchy than you?
Will them animals got out and get a job and pay our bills for us? Quit being soft and get on my plate
As long as the meat is clean, I don't care what happens to the animals.
The abuse makes it taste better.
Is that sarcastic?