Worship Tech Tour | Flatirons Community Church
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Our parents never imagined the day that churches could offer the same, if not a better audio/video experience as the world - EVERY SUNDAY!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Amazing!!!SMH
I remember a video, with some examples for typical sound systems. The Christian band uses in ear monitoring, every musician has its own personal mixer, the secular band uses the classical system with monitor speakers what usually affect the public address sound.
Our parents also never imagined a TON of things that the 2020s have brought.
So true
I was there this morning. Let me tell you, the AV team here has it dialed in! I’ve been a guitarist in P&W for years, learned a great deal in the audio part, and I’ve never heard anything as good as the mix here, church or otherwise. It is very difficult to have the volume they have here without feedback issues or unwanted reverbs and/or acoustic noise. It is not just hearing the music here but you can feel it in your chest. Punchy is an understatement.Well done, well skilled, praise the Lord!! ❤
I’d like to see some churches that are operating on a more modest budget. Not using the same gear they’ve had since the 1970s, but just something more realistic for a lot of us.
It's kinda the same stuff just small scale. Similar to movie sets. I have seen crews that were 50 people but at the same time we have dont films with 5 people. You would just combine a lot of positions. Switcher person would be the Director also. Cameras would be white balanced ahead of time because there is no Shader person. 2-3 cams instead of 9. 1-2 Screens and no video wall. Simpler lighting setup for a smaller stage. Audio engineer would do FOH as well as broadcast and monitors. etc.
I think they mean, find churches that are creating good content with more affordable gear. Of course anyone can make good looking and sounding content if they have $1M+ worth of gear.
@@SixStringGrace yes that’s what I mean.
Totally hear you, but also realize that these high end capabilities eventually move down into the realm of mainstream and even budget products, within a few years time.
Oh I’m with ya on what was asked. I guess my point is that yes they have the budget and doing things on another level but it the same stuff just scaled and I tried giving example on the differences. We have a 3 camera setup but instead of 3 operators they are PTZ cameras. It’s basically 4 of us handling everything. If the team grew would have camera operator. All things that are combined would eventually become separate stations. Lighting person would get a computer, video wall would get a separate PP7 computer. You could use $1000 cameras instead of $8000 cameras with $4000 lens etc. as for them touring those churches it would not be entertaining as this video is because they are showing what is possible and I use it to pickup ideas on the execution and not so much the budget. We don’t need a huge storage full of gear we only have one church. We do however have like 12 mics and a digital mixer and learning how to get manage those mixes is a tip to pickup. How they organize things, the camera angle choices, the concept of being able to patch signals wherever you want are all achievable things on a regular budget.
I'm so glad you brought back the documentary style tech tour vids!! Love these. Highlight of my weekly content.
I have just finished the video am like 😲😲😲 waaaaaaat . Thanks Jake and team this had opened My eyes
what an experience Jake just gave me...I need to study ...Kudos Jake
Great to see how you are using our gear in your setups.
Nice setup. Definitely have loads of cool friends helping out with the racks and everything.
Nice one Jake love seeing these videos. Keep more worship tech tours coming
Flatiron is killing it! Great tour ya'll.
Muito bom esse vídeo mostrando a estrutura da igreja...parabéns.
Can’t wait to see the Toaster Oven Church Tech Tour.
Oh geez I didn’t mean for this comment to get attention at all lol. No disrespect to them it’s just a weird name.
Anyone else bothered by the leather jacket audio? Haha just me? Ok...
Great tour Jake! Cool and unique gear we don't see very often in production world.
This Church Tech is sooo Cool, Everything is Top Quality
I am super happy to see that the churches in time point to the exelence, but the thing that MOST shocked me in a good way was that he said: " we dont want to anything distract people from experiencing JESUS"
thats a HUGE AND THE MOST IMPORTAT STATEMENT SAID....lets not forget that our job is to TEACH JESUS, not a church and platform competition.
awesome video. love your work
What a great tour! They've changed so much since I last toured their facilities years ago. They've been a big inspiration for some of the tech things we're doing at our church, obviously greatly scaled down though.
ur logo is the sign of Lucifer
Just for fun, a different viewpoint: Our band plays at one of the better equipped Catholic churches in Hungary. This means that unlike most churches, we have amplification!
Explanation: Most churches only employ one organist, or have a band that are playing acoustic guitars, violins, flutes etc. and choir with no amplification.
We have no drums, only cajon + percussion, because the acoustics in these several hundred year old churches = 10 seconds long reverb built in!
Very little electric guitars because the congregation would find rock sounds a heresy. (I'm not complaining about that. Don't upset the congregation.)
We have 15 to 30 minutes before the mass to set up the entire band and sound system in church. 2 or 3 onstage monitors for the whole band ('onstage' except there is no stage). 5 mics total: lead, background vocals, one for violins, one for flute and clarinet, and one for cajon. The fact that we have an iPad controlling the Behringer mixer is almost the height of snobbery compared to other churches, or considering that a few years ago we only had a 4 track analog mixer. A single webcam is running nonstop to stream the services online.
Great video!!
I love your content keep on grinding man
Thanks Jake.
Impressive - May the Lord bless Flatiron as they seek to use all their technology and talent to reach a lost world with the Gospel, disciple new believers to maturity in Christ, and equip the saints to spread the Gospel in their neighborhoods and around the world.
Wow this was amazing!! Would love to know what these churches do for there Air Duct systems in terms of using Haze
it's cool tour!
God bless
"It's just your run of the mill cheese grater." 🥴 This level of church A/V production cracks me up.
I'm equally inspired and depressed
Awesome tour! Question, would anyone know which template is running the announcements? Or is it custom made?
Thank you. I would appreciate some single liners for disambiguation. What is PA? and other terms we may not be familiar with . Thank for the video!
That is one mega budget right there, super cool, but wow...
This makes Jesus happy!!!!
Please do a tech tour of Elevation Church
We take production in gospel to the best of the unknown. Lets bring it to genesis creation mordenize.. see it hear it believe it once more and more again ✅🤩..
All this tech at Flatirons, and yet we got shut down last week by a kid in Kids Ministry! Last week during our 9 am service a kid pulled a fire alarm and everything got shut down. We literally pulled out two speaker stands and Pastor Ben preached from between them. P&W was acoustic, and it became a really intimate service. It was seriously awesome, and I would encourage kids to pull fire alarms bi-annually. :)
I have a plan to build a great and big house of prayer in Brazil. I will have a big job ahead of me to make all the budget for the physical structure, sound equipment and all the technological structure as well as cover all the financial costs in whatever it takes, this is a dream that I will be fulfilling for the glory of God if He allows it , I ask that you pray for this great project. I think that God deserves all the best that we can offer, even though finances are not a problem for me, but above all I believe that we should always have a contrite and upright and humble heart before God. I want the besta for God.
While this is cool, and an awesome setup I see a gross amount of overspending. Now that’s just my personal opinion. Obviously I do not know the church intimately but from the outside looking in the large amount of spending throws up a lot of red flags. Coming from a church of 4,000 active members that produces a fairly large tech production this level of spending would never fly. We constantly choose to forgo the newest and greatest tools and instead send that money out into the community. I’m sorry I just can’t see how the extra money spent glorifies the kingdom.
Nicely said.. the same way I feel as well. If I had to quess the overall worth would be something like 5 mil dollars. For a weekly production its fine, but as a church.... in my opinion, no..
@@paulyerrick wow 10%. 40% of our budget is slated to outside mission work. That number is typically matched in outside special givings during the year. The world is waking up to this lavish ministry style. We should all take look at what’s going on with Hillsong right now.
I am a member of this congregation, and I can't speak to your opinion on this exact question with any expertise. I can only speak to it from what I know in other areas. From the day we broke ground for this building we have been known for making the dollar go a long way. Rather than building, we "popped the top" of a Walmart and Albertsons, and you will see that the building both inside and out is not extravagant, even down to the small staff offices. I can't remember the figure, but the amount spent per square foot was far below the average for other churches, to the extent that other churches are using what we did as a model. All that being said, I would encourage you call or email in and ask what percentages were spent where. We are known for having a very transparent budget. Plus, I would really like to know myself!
He mentioned they swap from 24fps to 60 mid service. I'm curious how they deal with the video walls and the refresh rate mismatch? If they aren't, wouldn't they have a big problem with rolling black lines in the cameras? Follow up would be great to hear on this.
Towards the end of the video they say that the cameras handle all of those issues internally.
@@jackstephenson5238 This isn't something the camera can "handle". The screens are running at a certain refresh rate. If the cameras aren't at the same rate, or a multiple of it, you will see rolling black lines in the camera. I would guess that they have to change the screen at the same time as they change the cameras, but I was curious how they were doing that as it's not usually as simple as changing one setting. Maybe the switcher they use can do it on the fly, which would be cool. Our switcher (ATEM 4m/e) can't do it.
This church is huuuuuge
Great
I’d like to know about the light they have for notifying the sound guy when they want to talk to him. And the phone they had set up for him.
So how in the world did they connect the drum triggers from stage all the way to broadcast? I know drum triggers are 1/4
@Jake, how can I privately inquire you or Morgan about a specific question? There's a solution in place here that's I've been trying do, but can't find it on any forums or anything. Thanks!
How are the screens mounted at that low angle and also the one on top of the other?
Where can we find LED screens like the ones they have in their sanctuary?
I call this video "leather jacket - the sound"
I wonders what that sound was. Annoying for sure.
Hey. Can we get timestamps or chapters?
32:17 is there any chance we could know the type of Dell monitor they have there? The touch screen seems compatible with the Mac Mini
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I have been seeing a lot of people using drum triggers as gates and I’m very interested in this but there isn’t much about how it is done or ran. Is there any info on how this is done?
Just run into console like any other input. Then in the console set an external key of the gate to corresponding trigger. If you actually listen to the audio from a trigger it’s really just a mic that is touching the head so it has very little bleed
I've watched many of your church walkthroughs, this one went way over my head. Bottom line take away, call Summit 🤣
I guess im old fashioned but, you would never catch me wearing a hat in the Church house.. even if it was a walmart.
What model wireless mics I know you said electro but I could find a model/lineup
Would they be recommended? Problems? Thoughts?
Lectrosonics, it’s another manufacturer like Shure and Sennheiser but generally used more in the broadcast/ENG world.
Id love to see a tech tour of the Latter-Day Saints of Jesus Christ General Conference building in Salt Lake City! They've got an immensely elaborate and extensive AVL set up. One that might be a slightly different approach to how a team creates a worship environment!
I don't think they'd ever agree to it. But you're right, would be cool to see how they setup for the different events they do in the conference center.
How hight is the ceiling?
7:36 Am I understanding correctly that they're repatching the entire foh console EVERY WEEK??
Not as much as of late but there have been seasons where that was the case. Luckily it stays mostly the same these days
can we talk about those chairssssssssssssss
Do they run their livestream mix from the same FOH board? I didn't see any mention of how they are mixing for online.
At 1:10:17 that is the board we use for the online broadcast mix.
@@morganadare55 Thanks! I must have missed that thinking the video was wrapped up/I tried to skip ahead and find it but overshot it!
In which country
Did I miss a light run down? The only one I heard was the Robe T1?
Currently we are using:
Robe Esprites
Robe LED Beam 150
Chauvet Solo Batten 4
Front lights are Robe T1
What I want to know is where they get all this money? Like are the offerings 20k per person lol
volunteers for a production like this with their budget. lol
I need more info on that dolly track!
The brand of the dolly track system is called camera goat
@@morganadare55 Thanks Morgan! Appreciate the response- great job on everything!
Dude, super nice tour, but please learn how to use the manual focus. The constant out-of-focus (see what I did there?) is really distracting me from the content.
Bro just casually drops the internal capsule of a $1k DPA mic 💀💀💀
@7:37.. wait thats their patching system 😮
Is that a Whataburger hat he is wearing?
yes
Whataburger!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Love what you do, but you got to fix the focus, it can get very diturbing.
Somebody get this man a mimosa
I don’t know what this means, but I like it.
@@Churchfront ive known Morgan before that squeaky jacket was a calf.
And i know this guy is a mimosa connoisseur
This isn’t a church, it’s a live music venue with sprinkles of motivational speeches..
😂😂😂😂
exactly...
Yikes.
There is a very fine line to walk and it really needs conscious thought to ensure you keep on the right side of it.
Very true.
Whatsup man can you do FAC maryville
Not a fan of some of the ways they do things at that church production Wise but it’s definitely an impressive set up.
DANG. This church spends MONEY!!!
You guys didn't even go to the west end.
A monument to excess
0 out of 5 stars. Thought there would be steaks and there was none.
They play secular songs? Interesting
im thinking the same thing. I love all the tech since well that's what I am and wow its like the ultimate playground, but a couple things make it seem overproduced and not as rooted like the full scripted teleprompter and secular songs in worship¿
@@djthornton98 Exactly what I thought. Tech nerds love it. But I’d be interested to listen to the teachings and a full service
Definitely listen to a message. I’ve been following flatirons for over 5 years now. They teach truth. Great church and great people.
@@SummitProductionsSouth definitely. I wouldn’t cast judgment on a church like that without listening to the message and all.
Yep! We see it as a way to engage people in our services who may have reservations about being there due to what ever their circumstance may be. It’s an element of our services that is disarming and might cause them to lean in and catch the life changing experience of Christ through the message and worship.
Great tech tour!!! but it's sad that this pastor will be accountable for all these souls...I got saved from secular music...and we should not use devils devices to lur people...Why don't they jsut change lyrics to be something about reaching a lost soul and play the same music...just an idea. You don't go and gate waisted at the bar to reach drunk people for Christ!
There is happy medium between nice gear and over-the-top. And this ain’t it.
This is 100% “spend it because we have it to spend” mentality. This is bigger than bethel, elevation. Way over kill. The console choice says everything you need to know
How much is the console?
@@VICLIFE3DBL00H the Lawo MC2 32 are not crazy money actually. I don't think they're much more than like a CL5 would be
Why don't you do a video of the actual work. Not just an overview of what you have? Give us multiple views of each aspect of it, especially troubleshooting and equipment failure. It would be great if you did a video showing the sound tech going through a console failure and also how they resolved a completely fried console,
So what about the Gospel?
You don’t go to a gas station looking for an oil change…lol This wasn’t a Bible study? The title clearly says “tech tour”…
@@prettysimplemusic no kidding. It was a legit question. Have a great day 😎
@@Thewanderer_378 yessir my bro! Just a fellow CZcamsr adding much needed clarity. They actually just uploaded a Bible study video in the last week, so they certainly provide spiritual nourishment for us as well as tech insight! 💚
@@prettysimplemusic I'm always concerned about the "mega" church!. Show and no substance = disaster! 😎
@@Thewanderer_378 I’m with you 1000% This has been one of my biggest concerns as well. Miracles, signs and wonders… Including Deliverance has been replaced with fog machines, popcorn in the lobby and other non-essentials… The tech stuff should be a tool to draw and compel… the Worship and anointing should be the difference maker! I agree my bro! 🔥
Everything is weird about that place…
Buying as many devices as you can.
this video is nearly unwatchable... you have extra people here... hand someone else the camera so you can focus on the interview; also, consider running a wider depth of field so you aren't constantly hunting for focus... Not everything has to be razor thin depth of focus...
You guys must not love Jesus very much if you need all this technology to worship him.