Jaynalysis: How Duncan Lost His Edge
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@@lrn2blone he had the video unlisted for a bit
Jayniac pls do a lindsay video if you can pls
Can you do swan next.?
Wickedbing can just tell and show you 0:30 and 10 second after.
All of total drama characters are actor. Heist pay
Duncan lost his edge because of bad writing
Same thing with Courtney but they just made her a completely bad character after season 1
Ikr lol
Agree.
@@barelyhere7200 Courtney went from a character who always had the best intentions but didn't understand certain stuff to being a spoiled brat
@@Wince_Media exactly
I've seen every season of this show MULTIPLE times but it was THIS MOMENT when I realized Duncan doesn't have a unobrow he's just always scowling
LMFAOOOOOO
I always thought he had one.
@@thomasraines1396 right?? One of the scenes in this video he smiles and his EYEBROWS SEPERATE? I am shocked
@@hopelessromantic3786 I'm not sure, he does looks to have a unibrow, the animation sometimes haves problems and issues, by making the character look inconsistent with their appareances.
similarly this is also the only time i've noticed that duncan has a random black part on his left sleeve?? literally seen this show so many times but this is the first time i've ever noticed his sleeve somehow
I assume Juvie is separated by sex like real jail is, so it’s possible Duncan just straight up has never had any female friends before
it's kind of interesting, knowing how the closer female friends that Duncan gain (for the least) in the series were Leshawna, Gwen, Beth and Zoey.
@@nicoleflores2054 aswell as courtney technically
@@softbodyking2503 not exactly since the only dynamic those two had was mutual pinning and romantic bonding towards each other, as well as treating each other as enemies/rivals
-Guys look it's the funny Izzy theory guy-
@@nicoleflores2054 Those choices make sense to me, Zoey and Beth are willing to be friends with anybody, Gwen fits his aesthetic and tastes, and Leshawna is the only person he's probably had in a while who's willing to both call him out and defend his image.
If All-Stars was supposed to be the season where Duncan realized his own faults and learnt to accept all of him, the good and the bad, then what the heck was that ending?? There are many things wrong with All-Stars as well as a lot of mispotential. The second they introduced the "Duncan knew Mal from Juvie", things could've gotten SO much more interesting and yet they didn't. Heck, one way to have this "Duncan finally accepts who he is" plotline is by having him attempt to expose Mal in his usual Duncan way, but Mal is over here playing 5D chess and gets him eliminated. Idk, something like that. Anything is an improvement over his actual final moments
I was looking forward to a Duncan vs Mal plot line where Duncan would save mike & emerge a hero
Instead they gave that subplot to Alejandro, and although it was interesting seeing that bad vs evil dynamic, it would’ve been cooler to see Duncan accept his natural sense or morality and go farther in the competition as a sort of anti hero opposing Mal. I still like the finals coming down to Zoey and Mike but a more heroic Duncan make the final 3 or 4 would’ve been cool.
The best thing about all stars were the end where the person who got voted off is in a previous place in total drama like Sierra in Area 51 and Joe in the pyramid
Duncan could have gotten his edge back a different way in all stars but it was a Duncan move
@@alejandrobaguer8095 That is what Duncan does best: be the lesser of two evils. That what he was to Heather in Island and Alejandro in World Tour, and he did it well.
I think Duncan is the perfect Total Drama example of an anti-hero.
He's like the dictionary definition of being the lesser of two evils.
I’ve always said that Duncan was a antihero
Why can’t Duncan just split the difference and say, “I’m not a bad person, but I’m not perfect either.”
I’d say Heather is more of an anti-hero, but I can see where you are coming from, I’d probably trust Duncan over Heather
@@wrongplant4694 depends on the season
Season 1 Heather is a straight up villan
What made Duncan cool was that he didn’t give a shit about a lot of thing . It’s kind of a rule that the more you care and the more you try to hype yourself up the less badass you are. That’s why it doesn’t work in all stars
I couldn’t agree with you more
Wxactly. You hit the nail on the head.
Yea i loved how he noped out of the competicion when chris asked him to sing 😂😂
Best-Worst season performances by Duncan:
1. Action : epic
2. Island : amazing
3. World Tour : average
4. All-stars : terrible
Agreed
He was good in world tour wdym
@@trash1967 he was a wimp for Gwen but the Alejandro team up was cool
Simp*
@@Randomdude112 bruh he was no simp he just liked her😂 and yeah the alejandro vs duncan rivaly was great
I think the reason Duncan picks on Harold a lot in Season 2 is because Harold rigged the votes to eliminate Courtney, his girlfriend at the time.
Oh yeah I forgot
Honestly, even in season 1 it was kinda justified. In the cooking episode, it was revealed that Harold's got a couple of real nasty habits that, when living with a bunch of other people, are necessary to keep under control (you ever been face first in another guys dirty laundry you'd understand), and after that they aren't really that mean to him, Geoff is the one largely screwing with him more in season one than Duncan
@@markthomaskiec2453yeah. Duncan and Harold had their reasons for hating each other
One of the best total drama characters…well…in the first two seasons
Courtney was also really good in season 1 but then after that the writers just completely ruined her character
True
@@barelyhere7200 i agree she still has good moments but i miss the courteney who was determined but also kind and cared for her teammates
Nah even in season 1 he was a hipocrite
@@carlacarrero4975 noods in agreement !🤔
To me It has to be during the beginning of season 2 he lost his edge when all the love triangle between him Courtney and Gwen started he was no longer the bad guy that we knew, for god he was even scared of Courtney to the point that in all stars Courtney just yelled once at Duncan and that’s it Duncan lost his bad boy image
To be fair almost everyone is scared of Courtney even in island he looked scared when she told him to put her down
@@carlacarrero4975 but in the beginning Duncan really could talk her down but after some time he became scared of her
That's another reason why i don't like that love triangle, its just.. a disaster.
@@guillermosierracuellar9812 ok fair but it still doesn't change that him being scared of her doesn't make him any less tuff but getting beat up by the guys he picks on does
Tbh, I often hate love triangles, they’re overdone and if not done perfectly and interestingly, it’s so frustrating, I wish more shows would introduce a couple, and just let them be a couple, they’d have ups and downs and probably very cute dates or something but often when I’m watching shows that rely too heavily on will they won’t they on and off couples, I just get frustrated and bored with the characters, I’ve had this problem with loads of shows and hated characters for no reason other than being part of an annoying love triangle (For example, I was NOT a fan of Piz from Veronica Mars because the love triangle he was in had already spent many seasons being on-and-off before he got here and I just wanted rid of the drama and to just get the couple, or not get it and have them agree, and stay that way, to just be buds) I also really liked Duncan and Courtney in season one and really thought they deserved better
the real problem is the very concept of villains vs heroes, especially when it's done with realistic characters because in reallife there are no _true_ villains or heroes.. so in other words, to call him a villain just because he's edgy would be profiling him... and that's pretty much where the first step in his character development/downward spiral started, with the question "what does it mean to be a villain in real life?"
and then he ended up doing something illegal because he's a desperate teen searching for a personality trait instead of just allowing himself to be himself..
which was kinda sad seeing him go through, but the fact he did for attention chris getting mad saying ohhhh you wanna play games huh? mans told him nope seeing he's like 17 or 18 he'll be tried as an adult
I think all stars did thid on purpose and we just see it as bad writing
@@camilofan8889 definitely
@@camilofan8889 because it was extremely bad writing
Dancan went out sad asf one of the most tragic downfalls of a cartoon character bro really went to prison cause he wanted folks to think he’s a “villain” I think they should have done a story line where he learned to embrace his nicer side that would of been an interesting character arc IMO.
I think that, in a show that isn't willing to handle political topics, a "punk rocker" can only ever be a dick. You don't see the reason they do the things they do. They don't break rules and do crimes to fight a bad system, they just do it to do it.
Can we mention of the big impact that Duncan made world tour as well?
He started off quitting the game, leaving as he's never heard again, coming back coincidentally thanks to Courtney and Gwen, not only leading Team Chris to lose and Noah's elimination but creating the most controversial moment of the whole series.
he made the game more tense and easier to play for Alejandro, as he gain alliances with Duncan and Courtney, which the most difficult people to convince knowing how smart and strategical those two can be, he's either hated or being taken as a important role in the season.
Yep he's the perfect mix of both sides.
Yeah Duncan was good in World Tour
@@donathan2933 he was average to below average in world tour
@@donathan2933he was average
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 no tf he wasn’t
I’m ready for Total Jayniac Island! Great look into Duncan, awesome video dude!
Thank you for commenting, Jordan. My face always lights up when I see you here, man. I appreciate your genuine kindness and support towards me and you know I'll always have your back too!
@@JayniacJr Wholesome🧡
Still cant belive u like total drama,love u man!
@@JayniacJr can you do a lindsay or leshawna video pls
@@JayniacJr I really enjoyed the analysis and Duncan since he’s been one of the most interesting characters throughout the series season run. I also like his singing voice in World Tour
3:45 Harold voted Courtney off in island (He rigged the votes to boot her) Which Duncan was starting to get in a relationship with. So that why he does it in action. He stated in IN A CONFESSIONAL.
Can you send the link to it pls😅 im kinda curious
@@vibinvibes3721 Just look up duncan confessionals. It'll be in there
He did say it in a confessional, but some of bullying continues after Courtney comes back, and it started before Courtney was kicked off in Island.
I was wondering why he didn't bring that up.
@@poftsvivavu4598 it was because harold left his undies all over the cabin
As one of the few people who enjoyed All Stars, I gotta say this was a good analysis of Duncan's character flaws. And yeah, no one ever talks about his sexism, but it does explain that toxic need for appearances. He wants to be the allured and if he wasn't so self absorbed, maybe he could maintain a relationship with the right person. Not sure if this new season will be a Reboot/Revival or just a reboot but it'll be interesting to see what they do with him.
Invalid opinion because you somehow like Allstars
I think I heard another CZcamsr said that the show was going to be revived with characters from different seasons.
@@davidc. the writing is awful but you can still enjoy watching it
@@davidc. ong
I always thought the toxic masculinity just sort of came from his Juvie exposure.
I miss season 1 he was a 10/10 character in season 1 plus duncney
Wow Courtney and Duncan were yin and yang when they lead they had more potential
Indeed
agreed
Great video Jay. Duncan really is the most complex Total Drama character imo they had so many chances to make him a archetype and then they added another layer. Excited to see what the future holds for the channel, and remember I'm with you all the way
Thank you so much for being loyal!
I thought that the most complex is Courtney, but she was flandarized by bad writing
@@JayniacJr I would love to see an episode about Noah's character development
Duncan's hypocrisy in a nutshell:
Island: "At least I'm straight with peoples" - telling off Heather while defending Lindsay episode 18
-2 seasons later-
Action-World Tour: "Bullies Harold & cheats on his girlfriend Courtney with Gwen."
To be fair Harold did somewhat deserve it considering what he did in Basic Straining, although Duncan definitely did go overboard with his bullying though
However now that I remember it Duncan did bully Harold before that episode though…….
Omg! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that if you're straight with people why not just break up with Courtney like a decent person?
Remember that time where he accused lawshana of being a liar? Didn't he lie to Courtney himself?
I don't take people with double standards seriously
Technically, he is still being straight in world tour.
@@CountSwagula127
However, he's a juvie but still a kid. He learning to funnel through romantic relationships with balancing between depth honesty and white lies.
Duncan never got any credit for warning people about Mal
Same with Alejandeo
especially with Zoey, considering how she's dating Mike and the fact that she's incredibly oblivious in the season.
Both of you are correct. I was specifically referring to when Gwen and Courtney laughed at him
@@shamus248 oh right but to be fair, they never noticed Mal's intentions and Mike doesn't seems to be a threat to them considering how a good soul he is.
Duncan is exactly who I would never want a relationship with. Even if he does act slightly better around certain people, he only manages to bring out the worst in everyone he gets too close to. The fact that he craves anger and dysfunction in a mate and still feels entitled to blow off steam with someone else when it gets too much is beyond hypocritical. It's my belief that he only pursued Gwen to get a breather from Courtney, and once things got too easy and non-threatening with Gwen, he still expected Courtney to worship the ground he walked in and for Gwen to act like it was nothing. I get that Courtney's treatment of him even before he kissed Gwen was atrocious, but the fact that he even wanted to crawl back to her despite everything shows how dense he really is with his own relationships.
Courtney and Duncan both have there bad moments imo.
I love it!! Duncan was one of my favorites character of TDA, it's make me sad how he ended like this. Have you considered talk about the love triangle between Gwen, Courtney and Duncan and how it ruined the characters? Some fans used to blame Gwen or Courtney but i think it's something more complicated than that.
Who cares, I'm just annoyed that Courtney's whole personality was Duncan.
I wanted to like her but it's like,the only thing she had going for her (as a competitor) was the drama between her and Duncan
@Brick and Alejandro Nation The writers decided to ruin Duncan and Courtneys *perfect* S1 relationship for no reason. They were so cute in Island and Courtney accepted Duncans bad boy side at first. They derailed 4 whole characters just to make 2 of them (which nobody asked for) get together 🤦🏾♀️🙄
@@brownie8876 Blame it on Cartoon Network they were the ones who decided to break them up plus Gwen and Trent, even the creator of the show Tom Mcgillies likes Duncney and Gwent. The only reason they wanted them together was that Duncan's a punk and Gwen's a goth, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the reason all 4 of them being derailed.
@@monaalona4744
Not surprised that he liked Duncney and Gwent, so much effort was put into those relationships, compared to Gwuncan which had absolutely zero effort in it at all
Many people are upset about what they did to Duncan in TDAS, but what I really hate its the ending. Instead of developing a rivalry with Mal or accept the fact than he screw up his relationships, he decided than he has to proof he is a bad boy and blow up Chris house. This could have worked if it was the bad ending Chris gets at the end of the season, but they decided to trough real world logic and sent Duncan to jail.
I don't know if you are aware of this, but Duncan seems to be a writers pet. The same can be said about Owen and Zoey (in All Stars, not ROTI). But while the writers herd the complains people had about Owen and tried to fix it in WT and RR, with Duncan, I don't know what they were thinking with that ending. He already won a season, if we count his cameo in ROTI, he has been in EVERY MERGE EPISODE in the first 5 seasons. If he wasn't going to receive satisfying character development, why did he had that amount of screen time.
Ulises armenta he most definailty was the writers pet or favorite. he was overexposure they should have stopped using him in after season 2 and let someone else take over
I can think of some people who got sick and tired of seeing Duncan constantly.
I think he's favored by the writers.
Writters pets among contestants in general: Heather Duncan Zoey and Owen
I like Duncan; even though I didn't like how the show ruined his character's development, the one thing I respect and appreciate of Duncan is he always keep it real and straightforward. He may be a bad guy, but he's not evil.
I just finished binging all Total Drama and tbh your video not only made me organize all my thoughts about Duncan, but to love him even more. He was my favorite character in season 1, and while he became sort of a comedic-punching-bag as the story goes on, he is still one of the characters that always make things interesting (like Heather!)
Amazing analysis, you are so right in that Duncan has self-image/perception issues he has to work on. That makes him a very relatable character in my opinion.
And also, I never noticed how Duncan and Courtney are like, two sides of the same coin regarding leadership? That's a great detail in the writing of their dynamic honestly.
6:51 yes yes thank you finally someone that’s calling him out I swear if it wasn’t for the fact that he’s supposed to be the bad boy with good looks I bet almost everyone would call him out more
after seeing the examples, i felt sorta oblivious.
@@nicoleflores2054 it’s not your fault is the shows fault for romanticizing his character
I noticed it but didn't say anything cz I felt like I was a minority so...
"Good looks" might be stretchin' it a little lol
I been knew this, total drama never does a good job with the man character guys, there is always something wrong or off about them, some would claim alejandro is the best male character guy, but even he kept targeting women, and when it got to heather all of the sudden he wants to stop himself from throwing the dummy in the volcano and make out with heather to see if she likes him? what makes things worse was that he was trying to show out jose, and thats how you do it? terrible writing
Duncan never had a edge. He exaggerated a lot of his stories. I don't think he was flanderized like Courtney
But his attitude was always hilarious
Duncan is kinda a poser he acts like this bad boy that is quote on quote straight with people but he really Is not like he bullied Harold for what he did to Courtney but he ended up doing the same thing and he says that he will stop picking on him as long as he doesn't have to see his dirty clothes but Harold kept his promise but he didn't and there's the whole being mad at Trent for kissing heather when he cheated in word tour
Congrats, you have the stupidest comment I've read online today.
@@carlacarrero4975 COURTNEY BROKE UO WITH HIM
I just pretend Total Drama All Stars never happened. Straight massacred every character they used. Mainly, because they wanted to give everyone an arc but that can’t happen in 13 episodes w/ an elimination every episode. So many plot threads would be dropped without ever getting referenced again.
I honestly admire All-Stars for its willingness to stick to its guns in giving all the characters logical ends to their arcs. This goes for the nice, happy ones (Mike and Zoe's relationship getting stronger, Cameron becoming even more sociable, Gwen getting to move on from the drama), the neutral ones (Lindsay just noping out of it because there's nothing for her any more, Lightning having a fairly anticlimactic end since the issues with the pressure to win were resolved in ROTI, Scott having a normal ending after he changed his behaviour following his mauling) and even the negative outcomes (Duncan not accepting himself, Courtney repeating the cycles in her relationships and losing it all, Alejandro letting his pride and greed come before learning anything from his experience thus being on the brink of losing Heather as Fang comes after him). It makes it a really cool thing to watch. Plus the season is fun in general.
Me personally if I was Duncan, I would’ve stoped competing in all future seasons after S2. One reason I say that is because he had already won a million bucks. Another reason why Duncan shouldn’t have returned after S2 is because he was dealing with a toxic relationship and it just got worse and worse over time especially when he got brought back in the middle of S3. And lord have mercy let’s not even get started on the love triangle. I think by him staying away from the game after S2 would’ve helped him mentally and taken away some stress. Oh, and let’s not forget that in all stars, he actually got put in jail ! Let me be clear he did blow up the mansion but had he stop competing after S2, that wouldn’t have happened. To the die hard Duncan fans reading this, y’all probably saying “wtf, then in that case he wouldn’t have as much screen time !” While indeed that is true, do y’all wanna see your guy/icon suffer through more drama and stress beyond S2 when he already won the million ? Eventually get thrown in jail ? All I’m really saying is I hated seeing this dude go downhill.
The contestants don’t actually have a choice in competing well except in world tour but there’s a video about Gwen winning the money and having the choice of competing or keeping what she won Gwen chose what she won but Chris literally made her compete for the money
@@carlacarrero4975 ah ok gotcha, but if it was an option in that situation, I would just stop competing after winning the million in S2.
@@jmooretv4101 so true like all star should’ve had a joke about how stupid the new cast is for trying to compete on the show when old contestants were complaining about how dangerous the show actually was on tv
I was in 6th grade when Total Drama premiered in the US. Every elimination ceremony had me on the edge of my seat. Courtney's elimination especially shook me.
1:00 Just love how Cody, FREAKING CODY, just SOCKS Duncan in the face like it was nothing. I see his character development throughout the franchise (minus total drama-rama but we don't talk about that ABOMINATION) is paying off.
Its sad that he or Courtney couldn't be a finalist. Like, technically I thought alejandro would at least be one of the three finalists who would get eliminated like heather did in season 1. According to Sierra of episode 2 in that season she hasn't seen Alejandro do anything to earn his position in knowing any strategic knowledge of the total drama series or something to that effect. Despite that however, I could see Cody being a finalist and winning the million; he made it into the final three and that is a milestone from season 1. He could've beaten Alejandro just like he kept standinng up to duncan which was very impressive.
I dont really like Cody but he is a fairly good competitor. he stays out of drama (outside of Sierra) and has alliances and friendships with multiple people. If Alejandro wasn't in the show it would have been him and Heather
I mean, he did make it to the final 4 in World Tour, so he could've actually made it to the final 2.
Duncan lost his edge when he got in a relationship with Courtney. As said at 9:25 he does what Courtney says. That's why he started being good, in order to please her. What should have happened is Duncan staying rebellious but doing nice things in secret because he wanted to, then he could try and play it off by saying he's helping his team so they don't lose or he's helping the other team so they can do him a solid later.
Admit it: We've all had a friend like Duncan.
He DID try to prove himself edgy by blowing up chris’ ‘cottage’
Well, heather, Gwen, Courtney, and Duncan are done! Scott and Alejandro should be next
Truee
I actually never analyzed Gwen...lol
I'd love a Scott one! He's 1 of my fav characters
I always saw Duncan as the perfect example of toxic masculinity, so obsesed to be tough and manly that he hurts everyone around him including himself, and I was ok with the way he was portray in AS because it makes sense. Also, I think people forget he is a privilege white kid with cops in his family. All the things that take him to juvie were things to show up, and he probably never deal with the real sh*t inside because he have family watching his back there. Like, he always talk about his time in juvie as something fun and cool, because he never had to deal with the struggles that people to usually go to juvie has to. He was always an act, so when he got older it was obvios it would start to crack.
Dang never thought of it that way, such a great analysis!! Not to mention the sexist remarks too
Eh I think you just don't like him and view him in that light he's a teen then young adult most guys at that age do the whole macho act it's not about toxicity or sexism,look it up
@@lucasdiazjr5679 The whole macho act is about toxicity and sexism.
I really like Duncan as a character but in real life I'd want nothing to do with him. He's rude, sexist, and overall not a super nice person to be around.
@@All-ze9clto be fair this was in the 2000s so who knows you might have or most likely beat the snot out of you for the year
Duncan started bullying/pranking Harold because Harold kept leaving his dirty underwear around. In season 2 he did it as payback for getting Courtney kicked off.
6:49 yeah but Duncan would say stuff like that once or twice a season so it's not really noticable and he's not blatantly sexist unlike Ezekiel who was just blatantly being sexist
Unpopular opinion Courtney did the right thing in all star by ignoring Duncan like the guy literally use the fact that he cheated on her to manipulate her emotions like how is that relationship goals people ? I'm sorry but that's messed up she did the right thing by not touching that hot mess again and can we talk about how in the drama island special he said I'm coming after you next sweetheart and in a bonus scene of world tour literally hit her with a shoe like why is it that people talk about how Courtney hits Duncan to bash on Duncney but ignore Duncan's actions ?
You make a good point
@@breadcrumbs6342 thanks 😀
exactly too and i'm kinda glad she and gwen actually made up in the end of all-stars too, because they both realize that, a guy came between them, manipulated them to the point gwen was just in a spiral.....the fact that gwen the goth herself was trying hard to apologize to courtney and backfiring at most was sad
@@carlacarrero4975 COURTNEY BROKE UO WITH DUNCAN IN THE EPISODE COURTNEY WAS ELIMINATED! JUST BECAUSE THEY KISSED IN MANHUNT SPECIAL DOES NOT MEAN THEY GOT BACK TOGETHER
Courtney verbally and physically abused Duncan back in Season 2. And y’all are just gon side with her?
Honestly he was lame in World Tour. The writers made him basically skip all the teams portions of the competition just to bring him back to mess up Gwen and Courtney. I mean, I guess that also happened with Eva and Izzy in Island and Courtney / Owen / Izzy in Action, but unless they didn’t QUIT before returning.
Honestly the only changes I would make in world tour is having Duncan break up with Courtney through a song and being on the same team as her and Gwen like that was such a missed opportunity and I'm not gonna lie it would've been freaking funny
@@carlacarrero4975 Duncan Should’ve also gone home with Courtney in the China episode. That would’ve been funny
Wasn’t it the network who forced the love triangle storyline in World Tour?
@@randomname1924 yeah like talk about missed opportunity
Like, you want one easy fix, don't have him quit, so that you can actually use the time to explore Duncan's relationships with the two girls, grow closer with Gwen and further apart with Courtney, which could build up to him eventually breaking up with Courtney in the London episode and decide he'd rather stay true to himself and explore more of his identity, and make his kiss with Gwen in the same episode have better build up and feel earned.
He's a Chaotic Good
He didn't lose his Edge he just never really, he never had an Edge he's just a Trickster
They ruined Duncan as the series progressed. He was a total badass in TDI, then slowly went downhill. But he’s still my favorite character. He was a no nonsense badass who always kept it real.
Both Duncan and Scott suffered through badass decay well Alejandro.never did
I didn’t know that more people have the same questions about the Duncan sexist behavior, and everybody hates Ezekiel about what he said at one episode. So, would you analyse Gwen in a next video?
I think candace from phineas and ferb would make for a great video. There's quite a lot to say about her, especially with the new movie
Does she want her brothers to get in trouble or is she concern for them. Maybe the former as she wasn't scared for there safety and is very overprotective to her brothers even when there not doing anything .
This is absolutely a prime example of “character assassination” at its finest
I know it was a retchicial question but Duncan gets a pass because he only said these things occasionally rather than al the time. And he didn’t just say “Boys are better than girls.” in their faces unlike Ezekiel so that’s why he doesn’t get called on it.
TDI Duncan: Great
TDA Duncan:Decent (He's kind of interesting, but unlikable at times).
TDWT Duncan: Meh (More unlikable than Action, but his strategizing against Alejandro was interesting. His interactions with Owen were also kind of nice).
TDAS Duncan: Awful( His friendship with Zoey was wholesome, but other than that, his derailment was terrible and I'd argue it was just as infuriating as Ralph's derailment in Ralph Breaks the Internet. In fact, I will now refer this version of him as "Duncan Breaks My Flipping Patience".)
I love how you start the video with words that start with the character’s first letter in their name! As someone who basically grew up with TDA, I think your analyses are great, keep up the good work!
Duncan was one of my favorites right up there with Owen and Tyler
6:47 Duncan and Noah’s very sexist remarks and actions getting different reactions from women resulting in Noah getting kicked off early vs Duncan never really getting any real consequence is actually very accurate. Duncan is viewed as the loud and proud toxic bad boy that women would deal with and entertain, whilst Noah is deemed the weird nerdy loser that many would call and “incel” in our generation. Women sometimes put certain conditions on how to react to men being sexist depending on who the man in question is and his characteristics. The thug and the Incel are both toxic, but women often entertain or just deal with a thug a lot longer before eventually condemning them both.
According to the wiki fandom informations in Duncan's interactions as friendships, his only close friends he has in the cannon are always Beth DJ Geoff Gwen (pre love triangle era) Owen and Zoey, having a total of 6 friends.
TDI- Geoff DJ Gwen & Owen
TDA- Beth Gwen & Owen
TDWT- Owen
TDAS- Zoey
Wouldn't TDAS Scott also count as Duncan's friend ?
Duncan to Ezekiel: you got a lot to learn about the real world homeschool
Duncan to everybody else: i actually agree with Ezekiel unironically lmao troll'd hard
Yay I've been waiting for this since I voted for the title!! Been binging all your content lately and loving it. Hope you're doing well :)
Thank you for watching!
Interesting video could you do Gwen because as the series goes on she lets her guard down more so she becomes a target for meaner characters like Chris and Courtney.
Duncan kind of reminds me of Dallas Winston from the Outsiders, if anyone has read that book.
They were both jailed at a young age from their crimes, and constantly tried to maintain a bad boy image because of their status with the world and their inability to accept who they are. In Duncan's case, he constantly tries to hit on girls and put others down to make him feel like he fits his image, but he ends up learning how those relationships work himself and what could possibly make things for him better, thus tries to be genuine with how he feels about Gwen (At least in World Tour, AllStars kind of screwed that intention) and no I don't really count Courtney as someone he's 'genuine' with, she was never offering him a healthy relationship. But like you said, his failure to accept who he is arrested him. And in Dally's case, he distanced himself from everyone and tried to make the image that he hates everyone and constantly curses people out and threatens them with violence, but like Duncan, he does have a side to him that wants to be soft and endearing, where Dally becomes the only person willing to help Ponyboy and Johnny when they kill someone out of self defense and are on the run. Johnny is the only person Dally cares about, and he sees him as the brother he wish he had to make him a better person. but SPOILERS: Johnny ends up dying to a fire, and unable to comprehend with the loss of the one person who believed in him, Dally loses his edge, and returns to his crimes, an action similar to what Duncan did, but in Dally's case, the police downright killed him.
Seriously, I don't know if you read it, the Outsiders is one of my favorite books I read in middle school, it's really good.
OMG I never thought of this but it makes perfect sense! Great comparison! And the fact that contributes more to Dally losing his edge like Duncan is Dally wanted to die. I feel like Duncan straight up betrays whatever morals or neutrality he had before because of his arrogance, pride or value he places on social status. But with Dally it was more so him not being able to cope with his two interchanging personalities. He loved Johnny more that anything, but the mask/bad boy persona he built and how people perceived him did not align or allow him to be the way her was feeling (vulnerable, distraught, scared)
In addition to this, Johnny held whatever remained of Dally’s true self. He was one of the only people to witness it, so Dally chooses death because his conflicting emotions were too much to handle. He would have rather joined Johnny.
This is why Duncan is my favourite character and inspired me to be like him ❤️ Hard tough and badass on the outside, Good on the inside
i love duncan so much but when he torched chris's mansion that was the best moment ever
I`m more a Trent guy lol.
@@lisaswayne8241 Ikr was so satisfying 🤣
@@bighand1530 both are cool in there own ways 👍🏻😌
@@DrakebadassOvO u know what it made me so happy when he did that
I think at this point my main gripe really is just how it all ended with Duncan. Like, it does make sense but for one thing I think Duncan and Gwen's relationship actually was kinda working as it started to develop in season 2 and there was kind of this vibe of Duncan showing he could be capable of good. I also personally just like a good redemption arc/bad person becoming good and Duncan was kinda on that path. I'm not gonna say Duncan getting a proper arc and ending up with Gwen is BETTER, but I'd be lying if I said that isn't what I wish had happened
Duncan will always be my best and favorite character of all total drama nuff said, everyone in the whole world 🌎 loves Duncan and he is the best
Been waiting for this for a long time! So glad my all time favorite Total drama character got his well-deserved video!
total drama was a total highlight for my childhood, i completely forgot about it until like last month
Les goooooo, eating lunch while watching this, Thank you Jayniac
Are you planning on making an analysis video on Gwen? That would be cool
She should be the next Total Drama character I analyze.
@@greenrangeralex She's not a villain at all, she's more of an anti-hero leaning more towards hero.
@@greenrangeralex I used to really like her when I was younger but after the stupid love triangle I was kind of just really frustrated with her lol, but after rewatching the series I'd say she was annoying from the start (just my opinion honestly I don't really have a reason for being annoyed with her.) but yes I think she started to become actually unlikeable in season 2 after she broke up with Trent and stuff, season 3 is just a whole other story, but I wouldn't call her a villain since she never did anything actually evil.
@@JayniacJr Definitely :)
Unrelated but I like your pfp
The only person to pull off a soul patch
Duncan seething rn:
They ruined his character at the beginning of season 3, the original Duncan would NEVER do that do Courtney after he adored her so much, he cares about people emotions, he wouldn't keep filtring with Gwen in front of Courtney without any regrets, that's not Duncan sorry
>family full of cops
>surrounded by good people
Pick one
Did you really just make his All Stars plot make sense or am I dreaming?
i think so but to be honest, he gave clever points about Duncan's plot in All Stars, it's just the way how the season executed it.
Duncan can pretend to be a bad boy all he wants. We all still love him, anyways.😁🥰
Duncan very much chaotic good with a few flaws
DUncan and Harold were my favorites. They always did really well when they actually managed to work together.
9:41 This was actually kind of wholesome on Courtney's part.
If Duncan would’ve stayed with Courtney, he would’ve remained cool
His character crippled away when the writers kept beating him up in World Tour... he just didn't seem as tough; although he was still entertaining to watch since he still had the same personality. But in All Stars the writers made him a lot less carefree, which was what MADE Duncan so cool. This is also what happened to Gwen in season 2. Gwen started to care too much about what her team and boyfriend thought of her and then in World Tour when she and Duncan cheated and she just pretended to feel guilty
Damn, I think this is your best video yet! The writing and analysis are top notch
This makes me want to rewatch TDI so bad. Great video!
Next we need a Gwen or Chris analysis
All stars did him dirty
All stars did everyone dirty
With the amount of times he's been hit in the nuts I'm positive his bloodline ends with him.
3:48 Duncan targets Harold because Harold manipulated the votes to make Courtney get voted off. Duncan admitted that he targets him so much only because of Courtney
You should do one about Noah in TD season 1, 3 and Ridunclious Race
Agreed
yees
His character crippled away when the writers kept beating him up in World Tour... he just didn't seem as tough. Duncan was still entertaining to watch since he still had the same personality, but the writers took that away in All Stats. He was carefree, which made him cool.
This is also what happened to Gwen in season 2. Gwen started to care too much about what her team and boyfriend thought of her and then in World Tour when she and Duncan cheated and she just pretended to feel guilty.
The most ironic thing is that the fact that duncan and coutney swapped teams in all stars represents how in the second season they became less villanous and heroic respectively
OMG I THOUGHT YOU GOT DELETED BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR SO LONG BECAUSE I REMEMBERD YOUR VIDSSS
I'm glad you found me!
Omg I literally was wondering when u were gonna make another total drama analysis!
Ever since Harold got Courtney eliminate the first season, Duncan started picking on Harold even more
Eu adorava drama total
It all makes sense.
Poor Duncan. ):
Thanks for watching!
@@JayniacJr That video is very insightful.
hawk from cobra kai had the same issue from getting beaten up by weaker characters to show how strong they will get
Yeah, the Worf effect is one of the worst character tropes to exist, including its use with Duncan. However, I did actually like the idea of him losing his edge as a storyline. In a season with more episodes and actual decent writing, it could have been really good. His relationship with Gwen was terrible though, no matter what.
Still in my top 3 favorite characters though.
Ugghh I hate the effect too with a passion. I always liked the idea that he was a pretty intimidating dude. As much entertain I was seeing him get punched when he deserves it, espicllaly by Harold, it overall makes him seem less tough in my eyes somehow getting knocked out by characters way weaker than him. I mean they could at least get him back in smarter ways showing their smarts like Harold and Cody. My hate for it obsiovuly goes with other characters, it just seem like a lazy way to look tough and undermining other skills other than strength that can also be used to make the characters look cool and tough to beat. I also disliked that he had to state many times that he's a bad boy when doing that really shows the opposite. I don't remember him being like that in the first season other than disliking showing his softer side. Though I still find the derailment to prove hes bad kind of entertaining and intersting, but it definatly destroys any hint of him being a badass delinquent but it could have been handled better
Awesome video. I don't care what anyone says though, Duncan will always be one of my favorite characters from the series. He's like the dictionary definition of being the lesser of two evils.
Your character analyses are so good! I don't know how open you are to suggestions but I feel like you would be able to do some great analyses of some characters and couplings in the Nicktoon Hey Arnold
Still hoping to see Duncan learn to accept himself and be a fully realized character in the next season
i miss duncney smmmmmm
He targeted Harold in action cause he fucked with courtney in season 1
idk how i missed the part where duncan comes from a cop family, but that explains basically Everything.
the misogyny (hope his mom is ok)
the code of honor and intense loyalty
and his stubborn desire to be seen as "bad",, his actions like bullying harold are assholeish but there's plenty of good and lovable prankster characters in tv and film who could easily be framed as bullies. especially considering the "crimes" they bring up in the clip with his parents are pretty tame, the only reason he gets the bad boy label is bc he's unlawful. duncan today would have an ACAB patch on his crusty wristband but still mansplain manipulate gatekeep his way through relationships.
I don’t get the cops and misogyny part could you please explain I’m just curious and would like to know ?