OLD REVIEW + M. NIGHT SHYAMALAN RANT
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today we are reviewing M. Night Shyamalan's newest movie, Old but I think it's also time we address a trope commonly used in M. Night's movies... (might be a tad spoilery for Old but nothing major)
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THE PR 02:56
THE REVIEW 07:14
THE RANT 13:24
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Another movie where he portrays mental illness to be violent, is in The Sixth Sense. Bruce Willis’s character is murdered by is ex therapy patient.
O shit that is a good point
Came here to say this
ok but neurotypical people don’t just go out and murder people. of course im not saying all people with mental illness are killers, but any one who murders people has some sort of mental illness. you don’t do something like that if you’re mentally healthy or sane. he’s not portraying mental illness to be violent on purpose, it’s just that people that are violent to the degree shown in his movies tend to have problems with mental illness
@@brady5657 what are you talking about? Neurotypical people can be and are killers. What? The majority of mentally ill people are non-violent- and even then- correlation with mental illness doesn't mean causation.
@@sarasthoughts Brady never said that majority of people with mental illnesses would be violent, they are just saying that it CAN happen where someone who is violent have some sort of mental illness. So just because a movie has someone who is violent because of their mental illness, that doesn’t mean they are trying to say everyone will those illness will be violent at all or that it’s the only reason someone would be violent
I thought the acting was extremely questionable.. and the dialogue. Myself and my partner actually laughed out loud in the cinema at several times in the movie when I don't think it was supposed to be funny? That being said.. I actually really enjoyed it. It gives me early 00s vibes, a bit cheesy and predictable but a good time! A great story and beautiful setting. Very easy to watch. But - the visual of the woman with calcium deficiency?.. LOL
This exact same thing happened to me
I felt bad for laughing at the moment where one of the characters had a seizure because of the way in which it’s presented with the overly dramatic string/crescendo. So bad that it’s good.
It was hilarious tho
Agreed. The whole thing was off kilter. Maybe that was the point?
i swear there is something so surreal and odd about the dialog/delivery but the fact that it's consistently off in everybody's lines and especially every actor's delivery makes me feel like it's almost on purpose. the film as a whole has a very strange feeling
I just finished watching the video as I completely agree with your rant, I noticed that schizophrenia was portrayed pretty negatively in the movie, and it wasn’t necessary, in the graphic novel Sand Castle that it’s based on that character is super racist tho so I think that’s why that was included
Ohh, hi, love your videos :))
yeah, from the movie, I just imagined him as really racist, as he really only was violent towards those who were coloured.
I thought it was supposed to be dementia because it got worse the longer they were there but I still see your pointm
It was definitely dementia 🙄
@@MsBianca78 at some point they say he has schizophrenia
Agree with your review %100! Also as the child of a schizophrenic I appreciate you speaking up about the stigma of mental illness.
I'm also the child of a schizophrenic. He was abusive in every way a person can be abusive. Not saying it's automatically due to the mental illness. This thread about whether or not mentally ill people are dangerous is a joke. We could argue about it till the apocalypse. I'll just say that I seriously question the entire mental health industry in how they deem someone "mentally ill". They literally say sometimes that mass shooters are not necessarily psychotic. THAT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. Mental illness should not be judged in such a black and white fashion, such as someone is mentally ill or they are not. Human psychology is on a sliding scale, so 99% of us are in a grey area........
@@MrSwinefuzz So true, it is a gray area and that’s why I’m glad Sarah is bringing attention to this conversation. How people often think of a mentally ill person versus what mental illnesses are actually like for the people that have them ( & their families) and how they are often portrayed in television and film are all very different things. Further education and more conversation is what we need to better understand mental illness, it’s effects and how people live their daily lives while struggling with it.
@@MrSwinefuzz She’s simply stating that he relies on the stigma and stereotypes of mental health to scare people which only makes things worse.
@@MrSwinefuzz It’s just a fact that vast majority if mass shooters aren't suffering from psychosis. They know exactly what they are doing and they know exactly why. They're angry and want to hurt people; often they want fame. They may have some mental illness like depression, they typically have issues with anger, lack of empathy, being arrogant etc, but very few have an illness like schizophrenia.
An example of a shooter with psychosis is James Holmes, and example of shooters without it are the Columbine killers. They knew they were killing real people, they planned for months, and their motives were not based on any psychotic delusion, they knew what was really happening and right from wrong.
A lot of abusive people are like that, they are clear headed, they don't hallucinate or anything like that, they just for various reasons want to hurt someone. Abusers are diverse, they don't all have the same type of mind. Having an experience with one type of abuser doesn't mean they all are the same as your abuser. That said, I am also a survivor and I am sorry you went through that. I am also mentally ill myself and it certainly hasn't made me violent or racist lol.
@Shelly it isnt a movie about schizophrenia though, its just happens to have a violent schizophrenic in the film. it doesnt need to be any deeper than that, none of the illneses where portrayed positively aswel as personal character traits for a lot of the characters, the people who act the way he did in real life do have mental disorders. that doesnt mean everyone with a mentail disorder acts that way,
This movie feels like the type of movie I don’t mind being spoiled because I have no intention on watching it but I’m curious to what happens in it.
the horror genre has always had a huge problem with ableism and m night shyamalan is especially guilty of this. ive never really liked his films but i do believe you can enjoy something and still be critical of it. and anyone whos upset at these conversations is part of the problem. its time to stop coddling these bigots that get upset whenever political conversations are had because at their core, its literally just asking people to be kind to others. i dont see how that would be annoying or bad unless you dont want to do that. but anyways thank you for talking about this because literally no one has adressed his ableism in practically every recent movie hes put out
THIS
Oh come on.
Without Marty Feldman no YOUNG FRANKEN...SCHTEEN.
Without Charles Laughton, no HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME
Without Lon Chaney no PHANTOM OF THE OPERA.
I could go on and on, but the tea kettle is whistling.
I would never slur or make fun of anyone or any problem that doesn’t include me....
@@rightcheer5096 I hate to break it to you but the impact that bad representation has on real people’s lives is a lot more important than art, as good as that art might be.
@@toxicsugarart2103 And if Shyamalan’s “art”, such as it is, were of the highest quality I would be a lot louder defending him. But his falling into the scapegoating routine is a signifier that more is wrong with him than just the scapegoating, and it’s that “more”that aggravates me. Like I said, or strongly implied, I’m strong enough to take the slings and arrows. Those who aren’t will apparently find plenty of people in today’s culture to “take up for them” - or at least make political hay by heroically pretending to do so.
so glad u brought up m. night’s portrayals of mental illnesses. im a fan of his work, but it’s always bothered me too!
ps. been loving ur content
i really enjoy ur rants. i appreciate u bringing light to ppl using mental illnesses & disabilities in negative ways & speaking out against it. my partner has did and alot of my family is schizophrenic. we r not something to be feared. we r just people
Not his worst movie that would be The Last Airbender for me, it has terrible acting, special effects and it ruins fantastic source material.
Nobody is going to argue that
He is such a polarizing director. Its either a blockbuster hut or big miss. His palette is so messy.
Yeah lol if there's ever a discussion about that the question should not be what's his worst movie , but what the second worst is
Agreed. Alternated between yawning and rolling my eyes. I’m shocked that anyone enjoyed this movie.
Thank you for talking about depictions of mental illnesses. We are more likely to be victims of assault than perpetrateurs, yet lack of education and demonisation of certain disorders in the media spreads even more misinformation. And there is a serious problem with police restraint/brutality when it comes to how police interact with mentally ill people who are very distressed/vulnerable, as our culture has taught us mentally ill people are dangerous and are threats/violent to society.
I remember last year when I went to a mental health hospital, I was waiting for the results outside and the guard came in thru the locked door that he had access to and he talked to us/answered us in a way that showed he was afraid of us, it’s obvious enough for me to notice it. Oh, forgot to add, it’s not just people outside professional care, it’s the doctors (some anyway) , the doctor that treated me said ‘ you’re too paranoid and suspicious’ and each time I went there to refill my medication, he was dismissive and impatient,sure I’m just a number to them, sure he may be just getting thru the day, but maybe don’t be a psychiatrist if that’s how you treat a patient suffering , this is rampant btw, those ‘renowned’ doctors get off their ‘good’ reputation and can be real condescending. He also told me to hide my illness from people , yeah, a psychiatrist stigmatising mental illness, hooray I guess. 😐
My biggest complaint with M. NightShyamalan's movies are that everything has to have a huge twist.
Some of the best suspense movies, (Silence of the Lambs & Cape Fear, etc.) rely much more on people in danger & threats than some extraordinary set of circumstances.
His films are too gimmicky, imo.
Yeah even worse when what is supposed to be a big twist and the climax of the film was actually completely expected. If the movie was the exact same but there was like a huge fight after the medical research was revealed it would have been a much better movie. Still nowhere close to great, but significantly better.
His famous for that. Don't watch him if you don't like this type of movie. (Not trying to sound mean, sorry, I don't watch Shyamalan movies for the same reason)
I think the sixth sense did a great job with the twist, but now I feel like twists are part of his brand and he feels obligated to have one in every movie he makes now.
@@michaelcostello3000 i don’t think the ending was supposed to be a twist really, rather it was just to explain some questions the audience would probably have. i’ve seen a lot of people complaining about how it explains way too much but like…..they’d also be complaining if it didn’t explain anything, they’d just say “lol it was bad bc none of it made sense”. i think for a movie like this there is no ending that would be satisfactory for everyone watching.
Don’t forget the entire story of 6th sense and that Bruce Willis is killed by one of his patients…
Side note: love your content.
First one I thought of too.
My husband has schizophrenia spectrum disorder, which makes him hallucinate without distressing him, and he is also diagnosed with ADHD and PTSD. He has issues with rage, but it’s because his ex wife pushed him and mentally abused him into using his anger to target his kids and make them hate him. He’s been with me for 7 years and he is absolutely loving, kind, thoughtful, sometimes a little mean, but he reflects and apologizes when he knows he said something hurtful. I’m glad you care enough about mental illness to call a big name out on it.
No, I thought this was a valid point. I was watching the movie thinking, “weird, schizophrenic people usually aren’t violent.” Why was the only violent person, a mentally ill person? I honestly thought Split did the same thing and it made it hard for me to enjoy.
Where is everyone getting schizophrenic?? It’s literally in the movies reviews that it was dementia.
@@MsBianca78 I thought it was dementia too, but at the end of the movie one of the researchers say to the main villain that they need to separate the mentally ill people from others, as "the violent schizophrenic murdered the man with the blood disease and ruined all the data". The rapper guy said he had something up with his blood and he was murdered by the old dude
@@MsBianca78 No it was not. The woman state that they needed to separate the mental health patients with the physical ones, they were testing schizophrenia drugs on him.
OLD was kind of a bad movie but everyone in my full theater was laughing, one of the best theater experiences I've ever had
Same!!! I really enjoyed this movie! I was honestly shocked that everyone hates it lol, the dialogue was awful at times but I found those moments awkwardly humorous x)
Yes the dialogue is terrible in Old...if it was effective, the movie would have been a blockbuster. Also, he tries to explain the movie at the end which is a turn off.
@@eversunnyguy THE DIALOGUE WAS NOT MONKEH ENOUGH
OO OO AH AH AH
@@eversunnyguy I'm one of those people that absolutely hates it and the reason is because m night wayyyy over explains everything to the point that it runs the story
Completely agree. Great movie. Not surprising idiot 20 somethings hate the film though.
@@jxte35asdf64 the dialogue is all monkey
As a person with Dissociative Identity Disorder, I’ve had to hide my condition from most people in my life. I don’t want us to be vilified especially due to movies like Split being EXTREMELY harmful and inaccurate. People with mental illnesses are much more likely to be victims of crimes than they are to be perpetrators of crimes.
Bro, DID is fake. You DO NOT have multiple personalities. It's bullshit.
Ignore the absolute twat above me. While Split went into a supernatural direction you’re totally right about how it effects people’s views on it. The trailer for the movie was ABSOLUTELY terrible, including inaccuracies that weren’t even said in the film. The movie itself wasn’t nearly that bad (definitely more unrealistic than portrayed in the trailers) but ofc the damage was already done 😔 people take things at face value and see them as fact
@@holleringsmith3837 wow, you're absolutely right! what a breakthrough in psychology! thanks to you, i'm completely cured just by reading this comment! it's almost like all the trauma i barely survived never even happened!
Fuck off.
That is why its called a movie and not a realistic documentary.
I FULLY agree with your “rant” at the end, it was one of my BIG issues with a lot of his filmography
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oh yeah, i have DID and Split has genuinely been one of the biggest roadblocks in getting people to understand it. it solidified such a huge stigma around it and it disgusts me
Split definitely goes into a more supernatural direction but ofc the general populous is too brain dumb to separate fiction from real life
8bit ... being somewhat 'supernatural' in nature is not enough to make his depiction of mental illness okay. It's not the public's fault they correctly identified the tropes being used.
@@kat8559 very fair
I literally said wtf more during this movie than I have in my entire life, the dialogue was so… I don’t even know
I appreciated the rant part because I hadn’t thought about it that way 💖
I honestly love how you get “political”. You bring valid points and good criticism, without speaking for the people who it’s portraying. I didn’t even realize this pattern until you mentioned it, and it’s completely valid. Keep up the great content!
Really really appreciate you calling out the recurring ableism in his movies, it frustrates me to no end as well, I thought The Visit was just nice trashy fun until the twist happened. I'm still gonna see Old bc I'm a huge fan of the whole cast but I'm glad I watched this first so I can go in prepared, it's a lot worse when I don't know it's coming 😅
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I super agree with your rant.
Neurotypical people are violent enough already, we don't need to use mental health as a reason for people to be violent.
This character in Old could have just been racist. 🤷♀️
Having mentally ill characters is all well and good, but it's far more likely for a mentally ill person to be the subject of abuse and assault rather than the perpetrator.
Really? So mass shooters, serial killers, rapists, pedophiles etc aren’t mentally ill in some way?
@@phantomoftheaqua3896 Not usually. And it's certainly not the main reason for their despicable acts. The mentally ill are far and away more likely to be victims than violent perpetrators. And that's not deny that mental illness can cause real and terrifying violence on occasion. Burned into my memory is the murder of Tim McClean, when Vince Li beheaded and cannibalized him on a Greyhound bus while he was off his meds. It does happen.
But you're thinking about all the mentally ill violent people you've seen in media. Because they're *always* portrayed as mentally ill. When in reality they're usually just pathetic angry people.
All those shooters and rapists you hear about on the news, they're not generally mentally ill.
The point is that the amount of mentally ill people that are violent in this way is infinitessimally small. We really need to stop stigmatizing mental illness, and start pointing out the neurotypical people who do these things at a far more alarming rate, and analyse the reasons why, and stop minimizing the issue and saying "Oh they must be a schitzo!" That's really not how it works.
And you too would be misguided, if you think I'm going to engage in a conversation in the comments of a youtube video, any further than this. 😂
are you planning on doing a review for Candyman? i’m SO excited for that one
yes of course! 🐝
The candyman trailer looked so bad, but I’m still gonna give it a chance
@@YoungYonk what didn’t you like about it? i thought it looked really good personally tho
@@langstonjames6224 it looks so cringe, I had cheese coming out of my ears watching that trailer. But maybe that’s what they were going for
@@YoungYonk CHEESE JAJSJAHSJSJ
i was WAITING for you to review this. i’ve been checking youtube everyday i’m so glad you did this video
i am LOVING this recent content you're pumping out!!!
I listened to your whole review and still have no idea what Old is about.
I appreciate you calling out ableism in the horror genre, especially in M. Night Shyamalan films - being a horror fan who struggles with mental illness, it's exhausting seeing the only representation of yourself always being scary or violent
I hugely appreciate your rant. I was willing to let alot of things slide with "old" because, like you, I was like, for all its weirdness I enjoyed it UNTIL I realised what they were doing with the character. with Schizophrenia, then I was just mad and frustrated for the exact same reasons. Thank you for using your platform to talk about these things and not be afraid to let other peoples opinions squash your own.
i can never take shyamalan's works seriously after the debacle that is the last airbender.
We don’t talk about that
This is the one I've never seen and probably never will.
Then why you're even here?.. Go back to your mindless troll army.. Shoo shoo
@@yashsharma1825 who tf are you talking to
@@corndog7813 you talking to me?well I am the only one here.
Hey bestie, idk about everyone else but I really feel we NEED to call movie makers out. When people like you, dead meat, etc, call others out, people listen. I understand you gotta get those views but follow your heart. Get political. Horror in and of itself is political.
Lol y’all can cry and complain all you want but I guarantee you’ll be first in line to shell out your $$ for the next MNS movie
@@phantomoftheaqua3896 um... You're replying to a 2 month old comment... Also, I haven't paid to see a new movie in over a year, so keep your assumptions about strangers to yourself 💋
I thought I was the only one that wasn't digging m. night villifying mental illnesses in his movies. Says to me he can't come up with new ideas for horror films also.
Exactly, it’s a very old movie trope that he still clings to.
you’re literally my comfort channel. i look forward to your videos every week. thanks for all you do ❤️
You know what’s so crazy. I literally just left the movie. I’m in the car watching this and I didn’t realize he had schizophrenia until the end. I thought that he had early on-set Alzheimer’s. but I completely agree with you. Especially as a person who’s father has schizophrenia you were spot on. I also don’t like the way the black man in this movie spoke. It was really weird and cringey.
You forgot about Sixth Sense. Donnie Wahlberg's character was mentally ill, and shot and killed Bruce Willis.
Thank you for bringing light to such an important topic on your platform! 🖤 It’s really becoming a pattern, and it’s depressing that in all of the reviews I’ve seen of Old none of them are mentioning it. I used to love M Night and spent years defending his movies, now it’s making me feel like I don’t even want to watch the next one if this is what we have to expect. I read that his wife is a psychologist too, which makes it even worse, like is she not telling him and does that mean she thinks of the people she treats in this way?? Yikes.
You really help me get through the day. I love your reviews and I'm not doing great but I love seeing someone with a passion for horror movies make their living off of that. Very inspiring for a sad young adult
i love when u talk about "issues" , never stop speaking your mind girl
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I love the Happening. I also don’t take movies too seriously. They are meant for entertainment. I don’t think about how great x,y,z is I just watch and enjoy. Coming from someone who also enjoys terrible B horror.
This is exactly my mind set when watching his films too.
Also love The Happening. Casting could have been better but I enjoyed the storyline
Split is the movie where Night totally misrepresents DID.
The end isn’t a rant it’s needed and thank you for talking about it
Glad I’ve got your review to temper my hopes. The first trailer I saw for it was so good that I was pretty optimistic. Also, your rant was important and good. Also also, the unfinished puzzle on your desk gives me so much anxiety.
also thank you so FUCKING much for sticking up for people like us, i suffer from a lot of disorders/disabilities and as a horror fan it hurts me so much to see movies where people just like me are used as tropes or portrayed as horrible crazy killers
i just. being used as something to scare people makes me so sad and self loathing and afraid that i will accidentally hurt someone. i don’t want people to be afraid of me because i have personality disorders. i just want to be kind and to be treated as an equal
When will we just accept that M. Night is a comedic genius?
okay, SHELL we start? the pun was so close!
dude my teacher showed ur vid in my psychology class back in like september
whaaat which one??
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it was my senior class n we were talkin about the diff careers u could take w psychology lol
Thanks for using your platform to bring light to the subject. NEVER apologize for standing up for what you believe in!
I love hearing your opinions! Regardless if I disagree or agree I love that you’re super honest and aren’t afraid to speak what’s on your mind! Can’t wait to see Old✨
Your ‘pc rants’ are actually my favourite parts of your videos. I find it so interesting to hear your opinion and honestly the points you make should be discussed more. I couldn’t agree more with you about mental illness being used as a horror trope, thanks for talking about it.
"imagine me moving one day and I have a box... from old!" love it 😂😂
I'm actually so glad you brought awareness to the mental illness issue tbh
Love your rants. They would make a great series on your channel
I really liked this movie, but having the doctor have schizophrenia was disappointing. It seemed like it was being set up that he had early onset dementia which would have made so much sense for the story, and explained his behavior very well. I agree that making him have schizophrenia was just very clearly demonizing mental Illness. Also I have not read the source material but I believe there was a character with dementia so why change it when it already makes sense?
Why do you spoil the movie? Wtf
On the topic of mental illness in Shyamalan films, I think it's also worth mentioning the opening scene of the Sixth Sense. The mentally ill child who grew up to be an equally ill and troubled adult shot Malcolm and them himself.
I love the fact that I know 100% your videos will always be a safe space for mental illness discussions ❤ and I agree with you, sadly a lot of horror/thriller movies exploit these types of characters constantly even tho in the real world the most violent people are not the ones who are mentally ill or neurodivergent.
What an amazing PR package!! Oh wow. Hopefully they make some of those items available to buy too ☺️
OMG yes! Thank you so much for talking about this; I wish more people would. I watched a spoiler review of The Visit and was also offended by the twist.
Also I never even watched Split or Glass because I HATE when movies portray people with DID as villianous. That’s a plot twist that happens a lot in horror and it always pisses me off.
i LOVE the happening!! it used to be one of my comfort movies for the longest time
I always pick up his movies when they drop. I'm just always curious about what he's going to do.
This the first review that a person liked this movie nice to see
Where abouts did you get your shirt from? I’m obsessed!!
I love that you brought this up, your videos on mental illness were the reason I started watching you and the link between mental illness and its portrayal in media, especially, movies is something that really interests me - it's important to call things like these out and question it and think about those portrayals so I'm really glad you talked about it, it honestly surprises how not that many people noticed this issue or chose to talk about it
Full agree with your rant. The biggest issue for me is that a lot of the time, Shyamalan is vilifying mental health conditions that are already so stigmatized, and that many people know very little about (ex. schizophrenia, DID) outside of media portrayals. Most people will know someone with depression or anxiety in their lives, but far fewer will have friends or family members with DID, so movies like Split become the only experience they have with these conditions. When people with DID are almost exclusively portrayed to be violent with "evil" alters or to behave in ways that don't live up with real lived experiences, even well-meaning viewers start to internalize this idea, since there are few to no positive representations in popular media to counteract them. Same with psychosis, sociopathy, etc. These stigmas have an impact on real peoples' lives, which makes it even more important to call out these harmful portrayals when they seem to be Shyamalan's calling cards time and time again.
This!!
I want to see it now more then ever now thank you for talking about it for letting me know about it
Great video, thank you. As a psychologist, who also happens to have Biplolar Type II, your critique was very welcome :)
this was so important to bring up!! nobody is free of criticism and it’s especially important to critique people u like so they have something to work on. fiction affects reality and all mental illness should be unstigmatized
what is your all time favorite m night shyamalan film?
I just got back from finally seeing Old! The whole time I thought the "schizophrenic" character had dementia. The way it got worse with age, his confusion, his outbursts - it was like M. Night. Shyamalan read about dementia, forgot what the illness was called, and decided to just call it schizophrenia.
Thank you so much for your rant as well. It's the exact same rant I have almost every time mental illness is portrayed in movies because it's so rarely portrayed well. I studied about mental illness in film like 10 years ago and the erroneous stereotypes surrounding things like schizophrenia and I hate that after all this time, we are stilling seeing the stereotype now. I hope the more people talk about it and point out how toxic it is, the less we will see it in media.
I was waiting for this one!
Before I watch this, I want to say, straight up, that character was exhibiting symptoms way closer to dementia than schizophrenia.
He was paranoid, but he actually did something that he could be caught for? Like, he murdered a guy breaking into his house... which you might be reasonable to be paranoid for if you didn’t face any chargers. He wasn’t just thinking people were spying on him or talking about him. Also, he had memory problems and would talk about weird random movies. He didn’t seem to be hallucinating, or talking to himself.... he didn’t seem to react to triggers the audience couldn’t see.... Maybe I’m wrong, but he didn’t seem to have many symptoms of schizophrenia.
Also, the dementia thing makes sense because he was getting older. I thought they were gonna be clever with that. ... but alas.
In the graphic novel it was based on, he originally did have dementia/alzheimers!
@@brynnsievert6371 it’s weird that they changed the ailment and not the symptoms ...
@@mintyhippo8125 very true! it's like they went "Oh yeah dementia patients aren't known to be violent psychopaths and a lot of old people have it so let's make schizophrenic people look insane instead"
@@brynnsievert6371 sometimes people with dementia get angry and loud over things that seem small because they have a hard time knowing what is going on, so even that part made sense to me with dementia. People with schizophrenia of course can get angry, but it is usually based on paranoia without a probable cause (visual, auditory hallucinations, intense paranoia). His cause was probable, and it would make sense if he is confusing people for people against him legally with dementia/Alzheimer’s because they tend to live in past memories.
I like it when you talk about the issues, you've got good takes :)
That was one of the first things I noticed that the man with Schizophrenia was portrayed very incorrectly and it was pissing me off. Then I found out that in the graphic novel the actual mental illness was Dementia or Alzheimer's which personally is what I thought they were going to go with in the film but when M. Night made the change I thought it was very unnecessary. Thank you for talking about it.
I hadn’t thought about the violence/mental illness in his movies the way you talked about it but if you think about it, he’s been doing it from the beginning with the former client character in the sixth sense. He’s clearly suffering from mental health problems before his scene with Malcolm in the bedroom in the beginning. Very thought provoking, good video!
I feel like such a bad person because originally I ranted about you (under your AHS ranking) but since I became literally ADDICTED to your videos. You‘re so open minded and generally come off as a very genuine and polite person. I do also find myself agreeing with you much more often than not (probably because I’m also a sucker for movies that are generally considered bad) I hope you’ll see this comment because I‘m a huge fan and I hope you’ll keep making videos for a looong time :D
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Loved the review!! Loved the rant!!! Tell em girl
I'm so glad you talked about Shyamalan's misuse of mental illness as a plot point! I love him and his movies, but this has always been something I have had a hard time getting past when sitting down to watch one.
I agree with the stigma around mental health issues wholeheartedly. My son has them. I’m not sure if it’s just the fact some screenwriters think a person without mental health issues would be violent or commit acts of violence or it’s just laziness in the writing process. Do they think that a “normal “ person wouldn’t be violent? Is it more plausible for the audience to assume a person with mental health issues has no sense of right or wrong? I’m not sure but I absolutely see your point. Some sensitivity for people with these conditions would be appreciated. And Sarah this is your channel, say what you want to ! Also I really like The Happening!
That was a really beautiful PR package. I kept imagining how cool it would be to have a job where you get to design packages like that. Can I ask how you were able to acquire one? I'm not familiar with PR campaigns or how they decide who to distribute materials to, did you have to request one or were you chosen to receive it? Thanks for the video, I'm so glad I found your channel!
I think it’s wasteful and bad for the environment
@@darkdemonqueen almost all of the materials in the package could be reused by the recipient. Of all the things that are bad for the environment, an artistically designed and arranged PR package is pretty low on the list, wouldn’t you think?
love you!!!
I dont really fear M Night. Shyamalan movies...
But that thing "The Last Airbender" it scares me
OH BOY HERE WE GO
After seeing emma's take i was really curious to see yours as well, so ive been looking forward to this lol
Crazy guy in Old
"I'm crazy and I'm on a beach! What are you looking at?!!!"
i love your shirt. where did you get it?
I agree with your rant. As a person who has mental health challenges, I hate it when that becomes the motive. Most of us aren't violent or dangerous.
I really appreciate you addressing his bias against mentally ill people! I think that ableism is a thing way too many people in horror overlook or hand wave away
The 🐚 is relevant to the movie. The little boy who lives at the resort said he collects them.
I thought at first he had dementia, but i saw some behind the scenes and m. Night said that his dad has dementia and he put the jack nicholson line in because his dad keeps talking about him.
I rarely comment on CZcams videos, but I wanted to let you know that I've been following you for years because of your politics! It's hard to find CZcamsrs that don't have questionable politics or stay silent so they don't lose sponsorships. I don't think it's a bad thing to be sensitive- it means you're passionate, empathetic, and always learning.
Don’t worry, we love a good rant, and someone had to say it
I didn’t expect this to just be a rant I thought you would talk about it a teeny bit lol
I so agree on the mental health aspect. Hollywood in general does a terrible job showing people become evil *b/c* of mental illness instead of even trying to do the bare minimum of being like this is an evil person who is also mentally ill.
I think even that is a very sketchy line, but how many movies have we seen where we get a clean wrap up like "oh wow Cassandra had Bipolar disorder and stopped taking her prescriptions! That's why she took out 7 people and was stalking me!"
I could see Alzheimer's being more likely for an old person becoming violent, but even that stigma just seems unkind when most of these folks need supportive care and to be taken away from dangerous objects. My neighborhood actually did have an Alzheimer's murder where a man chopped his wife up with an axe after shooting her and dragged her corpse around the house with a confused police perimeter unsure of what to do for like several hours. But that is SUCH an extreme example. And that portrayal in a horror movie would not lend well to people who are genuinely confused and experiencing rage issues, but who need help, medication, and maybe even assisted living.
I found your channel last night and I got in a huge mood for scary movies and I finally found this movie on HBO Max. Maybe I’m insane, but I enjoyed this movie so much lol.
Two horror movie rants in a row. First Escape Room Tournament Of Champions, now Old. July has been a very lackluster year for movies and tv shows(except Fear Street and possibly, The Green Knight)
To be completely honest I thought the doctor in this movie had early dementia or Alzheimer’s. I thought it was kind of his mind on a downward spiral type of thing. Which was terrifying to me probably because I have a grandparent currently with it. But I also found The Visit very disturbing so there’s that 🤷🏻♀️
In the graphic novel this movie is based on, he did have alzheimers or dementia, can't remember which one. that's another reason people are pissed, is because dementia and alzheimers can cause people to be violent for different reasons but they fell back on schizophrenia
@@brynnsievert6371 Dementia gets SOO much preferential treatment compared to non-elderly chronic conditions involving psychosis, just another example of old people getting special treatment and young people screwed over. When was the last time you even HEARD of someone with dementia being put on trial for exposing themselves or hitting someone while in care, whereas schizophrenics - until they become elderly and thus join the untouchable privilged God tier of society - not only get put on trial for EXACTLY the same things that dementia patients get away with every single day, but they rarely get advised to even BOTHER pleading insanity because there's no point. Disgusting.
@@compulsiverambler1352 Yes, that was exactly my point! It was as if they didn't want to portray dementia as negative because so many old people have it and it's just the "aw how sad grandma doesn't remember me" disease to them. it's easier for them to go "Oh schizophrenics are insane and violent but my grandpa with dementia could never hurt anyone"
@@brynnsievert6371 I wonder if the reason for the change was Shyamalan not wanting to seem repetitive after having already used dementia as the explanation for frightening behaviour in The Visit, because most people in the audience wouldn't have known that it wasn't his idea to use dementia this time. I bet he thinks as long as one had a learning disability (The Village), one had DID or is supposed to make the audience think of DID (Split), one had dementia (The Visit), and one was seeing a therapist for childhood trauma (The Sixth Sense), and now one has schizophrenia instead of dementia again, then his movies aren't predictable. It's still lazy that when he does write plots, he has a history of using conditions that will make audiences more accepting of motives and plans and decisions that don't make sense, instead of using psychopathy (simple lack of conscience), which is realistically involved in most real acts of extreme unprovoked murderous violence but is harder to write for because audiences expect psychopaths to be competent and self-preserving.
@@compulsiverambler1352 That's a very good point, was dementia the thing in the visit? I thought it was some weird thing called sundowning that was made up, though I haven't seen a commentary on it in a long while. Either way, his use of mental illness to explain the behavior of murderers is ridiculous. The scariest motive tends to be when there is no motive, not because someone needs therapy.