How are European players so good?
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The European academy system.
Kids in Europe don’t play for their high school teams like they do in the states. Instead they go to a private youth basketball academy.
Similar to soccer clubs in Europe. Like Barcelona, Arsenal, Roma they recruit players as young as 10 years old to be a part of their training program. In hopes that these kids will one day play for their professional club.
If you look at any European soccer players wikipedia you’ll see which youth academy he went to.
The team plays all year round with the same coaches.
Players only move up the ranks when they are ready.
They aren’t switching back and forth from highschool ball to a different AAU team every 6 months.
The primary focus for these players is basketball, school work comes second.
Their primary focus for the time being is to be a professional basketball player and when the time comes when it looks like that’s not going to happen, they get kicked out and they pursue other interests.
Some of these players will even play for their countries national team in the summer. In theory a 13 year old boy could be playing against a 30 year old grown man.
Having that experience is going to change the way you approach the game.
Change it to play with other fully matured adults.
Every player learns every position
Kobe talked about this with the Gasol brothers.
He talked about if you were a big man you were still taught how to develop a shot and handle the ball.
Smaller guards were taught how to post up in the paint and contest shots from players taller than them.
Think about Victor Wembamyama. He’s fast, he can handle the ball, he can shoot, he can also play back the basket like a traditional guy that’s over 7 ft tall. No one ever told him he was a center, he’s just a basketball player.
Creating more dynamic players.
Vlade Divac was one the first big men in the NBA who was incredibly skilled at passing.
Toni Kukoc was an example of another player who was 6 10, but able to play any position.
This is what Jerry Krause saw when he drafted him
He thought so highly of him that he thought he could replace Michael Jordan.
Consistency
This one is up for debate, but a lot of people believe that the fact that European basketball has consistent rules throughout the different countries creates more focused player development.
The three point line doesn’t change
The shot clock rules don’t change.
Goaltending rules don’t change
the ball size never changes
It’s just another thing you don’t have to consider.
This all goes for the development programs too.
Parents aren’t worried about what AAU team their kid should be on or if they should transfer them to another school because the coach “sucks” and isn’t giving them enough playing time.
Europeans learn the game of basketball as a team sport
European basketball traditionally focuses more on the fundamentals of basketball
while in the states the focus is more on a player's individual skill.
One single player's ability to shoot, pass, drive to the basket, block, dunk, break a guy’s ankles.
They play a more team focused style of both defense and offense.
A lot of communication and switching on defense and a lot of passing the ball around on offense to get the best possible look.
Most Euroleague games have scores below triple digits and rarely will one single player have more than 30 points.
You don’t have a lot of iso scorers coming out of europe.
Luka is probably the closest you can think of but of all the things he’s good at, that’s not his specialty.
Eastern Europeans are taller
In Slovenia, Bosnia, and Serbia the average height of an adult man is 6ft while in the United states it’s 5-10.
This may not seem like much of a difference, but it is something.
It is a bit of an advantage, just genetically to be taller with a larger wingspan.
Most of the players out europe even the guards are taller than their american counterparts.
Luka Doncic
When he was 13 years old signed a contract with Real Madrid's youth academy, playing with guys three years older than him.
When luka was 16 he was playing on Real Madrid’s professional team in the Euroleague. Historically the best basketball team in Europe.
When he was 19 (the year he got drafted into the NBA) he became the Euroleague MVP and was the youngest player to ever win that award.
I say this because I think the biggest argument for why European players excel is how quickly they can move up the ranks.
Luka was constantly playing against players 3-4 years older than him and every time he excelled past his peers he was able to progress to the next level and play against stronger opponents.
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Ultimately I think European players are taking over the league because they don’t have to wait for anyone to tell them to progress and when a player shows potential there’s more of a focus on giving them the best training to make them a professional athlete. - Sport
in Europe players are taught to play basketball, in the US they are taught to be stars
I see you
This is correct. Aau is ruining basketball.
Gross generalization. But very typical of anti-US rhetoric
@@joeblowe3180The truth really hurts deep. 👍
So the USA should send promising athletes to sports boarding schools like they do in China for gymnastics? Taken away from their parents. Notice how Lucas the Slovenian was "bought" like a basketball slave by Real Madrid when he was 13 and had to live in Spain without his parents. No in the USA you should go to college and get an education. Lukacs never got much education other than basketball.@@bandjolyn
In europe, they teach the fundamentals of basketball at 10 years old. The exposure against grown men is really tremendous.
word. where you from?
It happens with football (soccer) too. When you are better than the rest at 16, you get humbled by playing with men, much more physical and in a much harsher environment. Cristiano started at 17 and messi at 16.
@albuquerqueThomas I'm pretty sure pele started playing pro at 15 and went on to win the world cup and be called "the king" at 18
Aren't the adults stronger and usually taller than 10 year olds? When I was 12 I wouldn't even play against 16 year olds.
@@PIANOPHUNGUY yes. And that makes european players better at an earlier age, we have tougher competition (best players in nba I know) for the youngsters to play against
In NBA it's always about athleticism, brute force, strength, speed, individual stardom and showmanship (that makes money after all). In Europe it's more about teamwork, more tactical, more about using intelligence...
I think ex-Yugoslavian/Serbian basketball school and coaches like Ivkovic and Obradovic made foundations of this somewhat different approach.
yeah, it's definitely a different game over here.
@whatslaps
In Europe every sport Is like a Battle with nothing to win or to lose, but the only goal here Is Just to play at the top of your capabilities
@@Luca-uc2ro Gross generalization. Anti-American rhetoric is sickening
That is a racist statement. Saying it is about "intelligence". You are saying that basketball in the USA, which is 98% black, that the players there have no "intelligence"?
I think you're wrong with brute force.
they are being "soft" for reasons
I’m from America and moved to England when I was 12. The basketball is so different and I like it much more. I played aau and play academy now and it’s really cool being able to compare. European basketball style has helped me improve so much. The academy system is really cool because in u19 (basically high school) you play in the country’s 2nd, 3rd or even 1st league so you are in high school playing semi pro and professional basketball.
Sorry I don’t think I explained well I meant the entire team competes in the semi pro and pro leagues while playing in the u19 league as well.
I got you. thanks for the insight!
@@whatslaps thanks for the great content man 👍
you moved here and liked the basketball system ? 😅
England doesn’t really even play basketball. I couldn’t name you one person from England in the NBA.
Ex Yugoslavia was powerhouse for any kind of sport. Players in NBA. Drazan Petrovic, Vlade Divac, Tony Kukoc, Dino Raja, N.Jokic, Luka Doncic, Marijanovic, Pero Antic, Jovic, Vucevic, Dragic, Bogdanovic, Aleksej, Dario,..... And others. Do not forget that the entire country had only 23 milion citizens. They were world and European champions in basketball, water Polo, volleyball, Tennis,
Yeah so many great athletes from that part of the world. Must be something in vodka.
@@whatslaps they don't drink vodka, only Rakiya😂,(moonshine) much stronger than vodka.
White Europeans are taking over
We were the powerhouse in the 80s. Plus all those players today would be superstars. Especially Kukoc and Stojakovic.
@@whatslaps must be something in brain... Vodka is Russian... :D
It's pretty cool seeing hoops finding its place more throughout the world. Basketball has been my favorite sport since a kid, so I like that the audience is growing and more potential talent is being able to find its way onto the main stage and showcase what they can do. The more the merrier.
Exactly. I'm really enjoying following all the leagues throughout the world. I could see a day where there's a champions league style tournament where all the leagues send their champions to play in a global tournament. I think that'd be so great for the game.
@@whatslapsprofessional soccer has that basketball should
Honestly, I’ve always watched local basketball from my local team in my city and the basketball is so raw there that you can go there and experience some of the most essential ball in the world. The fans are normally a bit mild, but the extreme fans always control the audience’s mood, even in the most dire situations.
Generally, watching our team ascending from league or taking on a powerful opponent is funner than seeing the Warriors take on the Nets, both multi-billion corporations…
What city are you in?
@@whatslaps Ourense
It's great to see the sport going around the world.
totally agree
The hostile environment at away games in Europe also makes the players to grow faster and become mentally strong (the crowds in Europe go crazy inside the arena. We are talking about arenas filled with very lights smoke, m80 detonated, deafening roar throughout the entire game to the point of being almost impossible to talk to your teams mates in the court and constant threats, intimidation and insults from the home fans whenever you approach the sidelines).
Who's games do you go to in Europe?
sounds like a typical basketball game in an american ghetto
@@artyomarty391 Or the old Boston Garden.
In Europe they use the same fans as they do in soccer. They can't use flares in US venues due to the fire hazard. The stands in a British soccer stadium caught fire some years ago. Most American fans are very "cool and relaxed" at games. The European economy is very slow , so the people are given "bread and circuses". if not for sports the Europeans would fight each other. There was a "soccer war" in South America once, and an athlete was murdered for an own goal once. Latinos and Euros have nothing but sports. Not much of an economy in the Balkans other than sheep herding. At least in other European countries they have a thriving economy. In the Balkans (Serbia) sports is "the opiate of the masses." In the USA many are in other arts like music. In the USA most kids switch to music or are more serious about school work after age 15. Most try a sport or two and after that get serious about their education. Unlike Europe it seems. Do the Euros even go to high school or university?
Most of the basketball players started out playing "Team Handball" a 7 on 7 team with small goals. It is a passing game. When they get older and taller many switch to basketball.
I like team handball.
@@whatslaps won't be played except by euro expats in the usa. An unknown sport. No it is not the fastest growing sport in the USA along with Netball or korvball played in Australia and Netherlands.
1. No, the European players do not play on senior's national team when they are 13, they play on U-13 or u-14 national teams.
2. The ball does change, you start of with size 5, then when you're 13 you change to size 6 and then a year later you finally change to size 7 which is normal size ball
interesting. good to know. thanks for the insight!
@@whatslaps much love, great video!
Watched 2 of your videos back to back… The “AAU Scam” one and now this. You’re good, Don’t stop and stay consistent. This channel will blow eventually.
I appreciate the encouragement. stay blessed.
i've been watching euro league the past couple years and i think the u.s. still produces more talent but the euro league style of play is so much more entertaining
I agree. The iso ball gets old and I prefer watching a team play together as unit. Way more fun.
@@whatslaps The white Europeans are taking over
NO ITS NOT ....AMERICAN EUROS FILL STADIUMS TO WATCH ISRAELITES....
5:30....you nailed it. In Europe we develop "team skills" and "isolation game skills " follow.
Totally the game looks really different
Nobody ever plays for the national team as a 13 year old. Luka as great as he was started playing for his 2 mil ppl country @ 17 years. Kids under 14 playing with 5 size ball instead of 7. NBA game is 8 min longer witch is a lot. In FIBA rules there are no handcuffs for defenses. There are no def 3 seconds for example witch means that center can stand under basket for ever. It makes it much harder to drive to the basked and to score .
very interesting. I might do another video on this. where are you from?
@@whatslaps Going by his name I'd say it's my fellow Lithuanian countryman. FIBA and euroleague games feel more like old NBA games because of tougher defense. But with less iso. Euroleague is so much more interesting to watch now, especially regular season as the games are almost meaningless in the NBA. Playoffs too are single elimination so every match is a game 7 environment
@@MeLoveParisHilton I would hate single elimination. Like college basketball single Elimination you rarely see the best teams in the final. Because on a given night you’re team could shoot poorly. And you got sucky teams upsetting top teams. But in a best of 7 series there is no doubt who’s the best team.
@@Ace-mw9pm it's best of 5 until final four where you have semifinals, third place game and championship game all in one weekend. It prioritises live attendance over TV viewership. If you're there on the ground for the final four it's an amazing experience for a basketball fan
Yeah. Add to it, that Kids in Europe are normally in a „pyramid“ club structure, where a talent in a small village, get‘s scouted by a larger town, a year later scouted by a town with a club big enough to have a youth academy.
Because that‘s another thing: To play 1st & 2nd tier pro league, the club has to meet minimum requirements for a youth academy.
And then it is all about winning games on the weekend. You train, you prepare, but the league games are big and you put all the effort in.
Then the youth league normally stops during school breaks, so kids can refocus, play some other sports (which often makes them a better basketball player) and have fun while getting away from school &sport pressure, returning as more relaxed and mentally stronger human beings.
Take Dirk Nowitzki who played Tennis and Volleyball in his summer breaks (and sometimes still does) to feel a enough appetite for coming back to the BB court afterwards.
Also, the league is one max. 2 games per weekend only and most tournaments are played with much reduced game duration, to make sure that kids can still develop, don‘t overstretch their still relatively soft ligaments & ankles, which makes them less injury prone later.
Meanwhile in the US, many kids in the AAU are flying around the states play multiple games per city with little preparation and team effort during their summer breaks and instead of winning cups & league titles their aim is to show off individual skills, instead of doing the boring, team supporting and potentially game winning stuff.
Then they return exhausted after playing sometimes with minor injuries and go back being the most talented kid on their high school team showing off the flashiest moves, while still not working on the team basics, as the coach instructs everyone around them to just pass the star kid the ball.
I guess that is far more a reason for the success of European players, especially at the highest level where the team should to be better as the sum of its parts.
And don‘t get me wrong. I believe at age 14, there are way more exceptionally talented US kids, than we have in Europe, but that talent is not nurtered, but wasted by providing the wrong incentives.
Yes - at one point the quality of the individual will shine through, but while you develop, there is no question that basketball is a team sport and there is nothing you can train & learn individually to master that fundamental part of the game.
In Europe if you are a in a big clube youth academy and if have a pratice 10AM the clube organizes transport to pick up from and to the school they also organize especial classes for this players, some.of them with 10/12 years dont live in there parents' house but in the club academy but the scounting start when the kids have 5 years old.
dang 5 years old is too young
@@whatslaps For example Cristino Ronaldo moves from Madeira Island to Sporting Youth Academy alone when we only have 12 years old.
Normally a kid can start in a training school with only 3 years old, with 5 or 6 years old they start to play in small children's tournament, but with 10 they already do international tournaments, the big clubs normally have a lot of this small schools in different places and multiple teams and sometimes you have 10 years doing 400 miles in the weekend to play for the main team, at 11/12 years old there are local youth leagues that lasts 10 months.
@@whatslaps I mean, it's how you get the greats.
The 2 ronaldos that are considered top 10 soccer players of all time, neither finished their education and were totally focussed on soccer by the time they were 12 and were playing in the first team of major teams by age 16-17.
Im not sure if everywhere in Europe System is same, in my town as an U18 Player I used to practice with the Team 2 ours and afterwards stayed afterwards to practice with the adult Team. It helped me to develope my Game on a Young age for sure. And if it had worked on an unskilled amateur kid, it surely helps on those talent kids workin with pros or semi pros.
This sounds similar to what a lot of people experienced. Where are you from?
In Europe the fundamental and your attitude towards some skills determine your position and not only your body. You can be a center 2 meter or less or a point guard 2 meter plus. You can be a guard good at low post and your coach drow plays in low post for you and not for your center
yeah everyone has more general basketball skills. I think the US is going that way.
From an European point of view, not very accurate all, but good analysis. I would summary that in Europe we confuse in the team rather than in the individual. American players and more skilled but have to learn the game in the NBA while in Europe we are taught to learn the game and the develop the skill
thanks for the insights. I might remake this video tbh
I believe the biggest difference is, when America sent over their dream team. It showed Europe just how far behind they were.
which dream team?
@@whatslaps 92’ 08’
@@whatslaps there was only 1
I would add our leagues are based on a relegation system, you win our you are out, every wins counts and low tier teams never give up. That's a mentality you only see in PO in the NBA.
I know. we need higher stakes for bad teams in American sports. It's a flaw. If you're interested look at the Oakland A's payroll.
@@whatslaps You sound like you don't care for the USA. You should prob leave no? We're full anyways :)
I have no clue about basketball but I love to see how American people now realize that they aren't the best at everything. There is a very big world outside the US, Canada and Mexiko my friends
where are you from?
@@whatslaps germany. its called football
We’re still the best we won almost every Olympic basketball gold medal.
Mexico, not Mexiko, you Jerman.
Shoutout to Africa and Australia too!! Amazing players!
yeah a lot of stars in a lot of continents
great video
thank you for your encouragement
NBA teams should have more practice matches in Europe, to feel for the East-European fan astmosphere. Also means that Euoropean league is better than NBA, but salery is another thing.
I agree. I think they should have a few in season games in Europe too like the nf
Then why do European countries lose to the USA in the Olympics? If they are "better"?
@@joeblowe3180because the countries are tiny. If the countries that formed Yugoslavia were reunited for basketball, that team could give the USA quite a fight even though the combined population of those countries is about what the New York City metro area has.
Europeans are so good because they're taught how to play basketball properly. Their development systems are just better than AAU/HS/College. Only reason why Europeans aren't the majority in the NBA just yet is because more kids are playing soccer.
where are you from?
Soccer players are short for the most part, and wouldn’t be the body type for the NBA. The reason Europeans aren’t the majority. Is because they have the fundamentals but 99% of Europeans don’t have the skill, athleticism, or talent to compete on the NBA level. Most Europeans can’t even be an NBA bench warming role player. But once in a while you get a lucka, Giannis, or jokic.
@@Ace-mw9pmNah, it's easier to score in nba, they are not there cause they are white
@@Ace-mw9pm Oh plenty have the skill, athleticism, or talent to compete on the NBA level. It's just that the pool of players isn't as big because the sport isn't as popular. If it was as big as the pool of football players, Europe would be dominating.
Point 1 Players in the US play all year round too. Guys here in the USA spend the entire summer playing AAU ball and the shoe brand competition on top of all these elite camps. These guys play so much that some of the best ballers never make it to the NBA because of injuries ...see Harry Giles. Although I agree that US players should learn more basics at a younger age.
Point 2, I like how you show an example of a big hat can shoot. You showed Karl Anthony Towns, who is from NEW JERSEY! Anthony Davis can do all this stuff too. I think this will change too in the future. See Chet Holmgren.
This was an excellent video, and I enjoyed it. What is missing from this video is that the US and Europe have different philosophies when it comes to basketball. In Europe, as you said, the belief is teams beat individuals, and in the US, they believe that individuals with a lot of talents (see LeBron James) can win a well-organized team any day.
Thanks for the insights. I think America takes the ethos of Europe in the next couple years. I seems as though Europe is creating better basketball players. The US is a bit set in their ways and it's starting to show. I'm excited to see how global interest in basketball changes the NBA. Thanks for checking out the video!
There was bound to be lots of talent around the world once the game began to spread a bit.
It's interesting to see what countries produce the best type of players.
Especially in the Balkans you forgot to mention the stress of playing in front of an intimidating army of tribe soldiers at the outgames makes you less intimidated by what happens in the MBA
oh dang I totally forgot my bad.
You don’t do school on the side when you join a sports academy in Europe. That’s just a misconception. You don’t join a university if you become professional, but you do graduate the high school to have your options open.
Ah that's interesting.
Seems like most European players are tall, so that point guard training def helps the bigs. Not clear if translates to guards
Yeah, it was kind of a stretch. No pun intended.
Ofcourse because Europe is the tallest continent on earth. According to statistics
@@Believer3_ and Serbs are among tallest nations on the world, Lukas father is Serbian basketball player, Jokic is Serb, Vlade Divac and so...
@@Believer3_ yeah most men in Europe are 5'11 and above, there's several countries where the average male height is 6'
Personally I'm French and I'm 5'8, while I'd be considered average height in the US I'm noticeably short in France with the average height for a man being 5'11 and France isn't really known for being a tall country
Another factor I think is that the european players have a different mentality aswell due to there being less media coverage and consequently hype surrounding them and basketball.
for sure. no doubt.
@@whatslapsthat aint true
this style of editing felt like a fever dream and I absolutely loved it.
It's the only speed I know how to go!
As several people have previously pointed out, European basketball emphasises foundations and teamwork, which is how a team sport should be. To add, there are a number of incredibly tough, disciplined people, especially in Eastern Europe; in fact, some of the strongest and tallest men originate from there region. It's also become more of an international game
yeah I think the soccer mentality and culture has bled into other sports.
I Love the video but regarding the low score the game duration plays a role as well: a quarter in europe only lasts 10 minutes instead of 12 in America
yeah, I might remake this video. I got a couple things wrong. glad you enjoyed it though!
Also in Australia and Europe you’re still allowed to still play physical defence. Not to mention the larger NBA court creates space for the offence.
Thank you for balancing well your ding sounds, too many make em too loud
yeah, it's hard to tell how loud they are when you're editing
When i joined Basketball Team here in europe, they forced us to do everything like from the Text book. I remember we had to train layups with left and right Hand but very Text book like. When we did fancy layups we had to do push ups. If we didnt pass the Ball to someone more open, we had to run around the court and stuff like that.
that's awesome. what country was that?
@@whatslaps germany. But early 2000's idk how it is today
Haha well. Thats North-Western and Eastern European culture in general.
We HATE bullshit. We HATE over-the-top and unneeded actions.
To our own detriment, I may add. Ego should be killed. Always. Team first. No fancy shit. Efficiency above all.
It really is culturally the way Europe moves, disregarding the Mediterranean countries. No hate either.
@@abouassad90 Then you lose to the USA in the Olympics
Mostly, they play closer to NBA 1980s and 1990s (up to 1996 or so) than current players
Who do you think changed the game in 1996?
euro players are more likely to play multiple positions unlike in the 90s
Reverse discrimination that’s what’s going on in the basketball courts in America for the last 30 years. And I could share one way or the other but it’s the truth.
What do you mean?
@@whatslaps very hard to get into NBA if you're white. Especially if you're white and have blue eyes and blonde hair. Europeans get a pass because many americans dont consider them white (or "american white")
If Luka was American, with that cute face, he would have never gone to the NBA
@whatslaps Drazen Petrovic too @4:20
oh yeah, I forgot about him.
The ball is a size 5 until like U10 level and you are not allowed blocks until U14 but thats just so players focus on the basic and after U14 they have time to play with screens
interesting. thanks for the insight, man.
Not allowed blocks???
So how do you defend them, just foul??
@@FredrickTheDog he meant screens, not blocking a shot
One thing you didn't mention re: scoring is that FIBA games are 40 minutes vs 48 minutes in the NBA. They also had a 30-second shot clock until I think 2000. Also different rulesets like the lack of the defensive 3-seconds and much more lenient goaltending rules.
that's true. I gotta revisit this video
@@whatslaps video was great! was just mentioning the only thing I noticed that omitted something. excellent video regardless
god bless
We have basketball academy in the U.S. as well.
did you go?
@@whatslaps haha no, I am just saying that there are some academies that develop youth basketball protegies in the U.S.
Giannis would never have the force that he is if he stayed in Europe. The NBA drafted him from a semi professional division. Europe did not believe in his talent.
Dang. I didn't realize that. I thought Filathlitikos was in the A league.
the "college sports"has no sense.
take the greatest athletes.. ronaldo, messi, tyson, mayweather at 18 they were professional against grown up man, playing the real game not the "kids version".
why if a 20 yr old boy is a phenomenon he has to stick with low level players in college? really has no sense and your stopping athletes to became even greater.
Yeah, it's our culture and it's the way we do it. Societal structures are powerful.
I’m not too big on college basketball. But march madness(college basketball playoffs) is wildly popular as well as college football. You get these players in the NBA and NFL through drafts you can’t just recruit them straight out of high school.
@@Ace-mw9pm i know how the US sports system works... just saying that has no sense.
Average height of a country doesn't mean the tallest in the country also go up on average.
exactly.
healthier youth setup, speaking about youth academies, you can start playing football as young as 5 in europe
We kind of do that in the states, but it's less organized than the academy system.
@@whatslaps yeah i know, in the us soccer is treated as a kid's recreational sport and that's about it, i started playing when I was 7, i was a assigned to be a goalkeeper because well, i was taller and rounder that the other kids 🤣, for that age group let's say i was half decent, coming back to the main point even at a low level, recreational neighborhood team, we were tought pretty deep tactical aspects of the game, how and when to pass, not to crowd areas, techincal and agility drills, endurance training on and on, without sounding too rude in the us from what i've heard it's more of a "hey kids, here's a ball, go and run around for one hour"
posture.. posture
definitely
In Europe school and sports are not correlated, so no matter what you do in your free time, the school is the same no matter what. You must do your job like everyone in your school and the same in your basketball team😅
interesting
Best players come out of Balkans
Who is number 2?
@@whatslaps do you know what and where Balkan is?
also what i dont like in NBA first five will always plays always till someone dont get injury or left club that system cant be right , and its because money and menager who think that someone from bench is not good enough, in europe if you dont play well like 7-8-9 games you are out of 5, someone else get chance over you or they take new player from another club , that is in my opinion normal you don't play well go on bench for some time , okey there are players in NBA which deserve to always be in five like durant , luka, giannis, jokic and similiar but all rest in my opnion can be changed if they are not inform
yeah, coaches are reluctant to start people who aren't stars or sub quick for players who are making less money.
@@whatslaps yeah i track every nba game because i do top shot nft last 3 years, and if player who is not star and should do 3points for some team and he shot only 1 or 2 3p per game in 5-6 games in row he will be still in first 5 LOL eaven he is in crap form but who cares he will play, in same time that team have on bench player who can shot 3p but he will get only low minutes or garbage time
1:12 a Romaaahh youth academy
you heard me.
The age thing is so important imo.
If I'm looking for good prospects on football manager I go to say, the U21 international team and look if there are any under 18's in that team. If there are it's probably a good talent because they're not in the U16/U17/U18.
Exactly. more room to grow as a player and competition
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michael totaliano
We always admired the US basketball. It is the very best Europeans that go over to the NBA. They came back afterwardsand play a last season or some here and/or become coaches, co-trainers, youth coaches etc. Who do you think these guys learn from?
Agree 100% on the youth teams where some American kid play only his own age and learns to be a star instead of facing older players to improve faster.
When I was at school our girls team was good so they played against local boys teams to keep improving, not just weaker girl teams to shine and improve statistics...
where are you from?
Gross generalization. Anti-American rhetoric. Why do Euro countries always lose to the USA in the Olympics..
Only the best of the best Europeans can go to NBA so it's normal that they perform well. It doesn't reflect the average Euro player's performance
Interesting I didn't think of that
3 of the NBA top 5 players are European since few years...
this is true.
You seem to know European basketball better than many journalists in Europe :)
guess they're too busy covering football and foreign affairs. haha
its cos no one cares about basketball in europe in the big picture
@@briton3851not true
@@inquisitive6786 very true, i went to school in north west europe, no one cares about basketball like they do football, basketball is fun but rly irrelevant and not as entertaining as native sports
@@briton3851 Speak for north west europe or whatever country that would be.
Eastern, southeastern and southwestern europe are big on basketball. These are the countries that sent players to the NBA the most as well
What I think is a huge factor is that us kids need all that social media presence. They all wanna have a good highlight tape because you need publicity to get random scholarships to get recognition. In Europe there is always a bigger club to go to if you’ve outgrown your home club. Plus national team coaching is really efficient here. I played volleyball growing up and with 12 we had tryouts for our district team, with that we went to the state cup, where they scouted players for the state team which them went and competed for the national championship and that way you made it to the NT, Euros Youth WCs etc. plus that’s how you got the attention to move to other clubs etc.
Notice you didn’t have to win anywhere to get that recognition. For example the one who won the „best setter award“ when we played at the state cup, they only won like one game and came in second to last. He got picked for the state team, started for them and the results were amazing. Our state won nationals and 4/6 starters on the NT in my year came from Bavaria. If you play well people will notice. In the US you need to rely on your teammates to get to state championships and you need to cut nice highlight videos to get recognition. Way more randomness involved to be a professional basketball players
This is a great point. I think we are going to see a shift in education and athletics. The two will probably separate for a lot of reasons, but definitely one being what you're mentioning.
In Serbia men are 6cm taller than in the US?!? Are you sure about that?? It sounds nonsense to me
might be nonsense, might be true. Only one way to find out.
Yess
We are one of the tallest nation
Actially my only two Serbian Friends are pretty tall, but i Always thought It was Just random case.... And Serbian are closer to greek and Turkish than to croats and slovenians sometimes... Slovenians, they can be said to be tallish and blondish, and most of my Friends from there are like that.
Serbs, with an average height of 182 cm, are eighth in the world's list of tallest nations. The US is on the list around the fortieth place
@@whatslaps 10 tallest counties:
1. The Netherlands - 183.78 cm
2. Montenegro - 183.21 cm
3. Denmark - 182.60 cm
4. Norway - 182.39 cm
5. Serbia - 181.99 cm
6. Germany - 181.00 cm
7. Croatia - 180.49 cm
8. The Czech Republic - 180.26 cm
9. Slovenia - 180.28 cm
9. Luxembourg - 179.90 cm
PAU GASOL!! THE FORGOTTEN ONE!!!!
there's a lot of em.
The answer is very simple. There is much more Europeans than people in USA. Having that in mind America has much more good players and american way is superior. Almost all european national teams have one American. I can say for Serbians that we in average one of the tallest ethnic groups. That and popularity of basketball help us to have many good players. There was quality work with players before but not any more.
that's a good. I wasn't even thinking about population.
If you dont make it in an academy doesnt have to be over because we have lower leagues. Just because your not a star doesnt mean you cant play for a lower prem team or a championship team or league 1 or 2 even van national.
don't the lower leagues have academies too? or is it just the top teams?
@@whatslaps Ye every team has a youth team. In football/soccer atleast its Senior team, U21s - U18s are like the main 3 i think. But obviously it should keep going down it depends how expensive it is to run. But you can also be a missed player a rise to the top look at Jamie Vardy. Also if you joined Real Madrid Academy and then got cut you still probably really good and might get in another place or work on your game join a local team and fight for your place.
The biggest thing in European sport is that you must win so if you can score goals or get points in basketball you will get picked up. IF you then get bought by a better club and still perform someone higher will buy you untill you find your quality or you make it to the top.
Sasha....a fellow Bulgarian is coming to the NBA. He also can't jump....
Nice! Was he drafted this year?
@@whatslaps No, he was drafted some years ago by the Kings. This year he was the MVP for the Euroleague while playing for a Greek team (Olympiakos) and the Kings finally pulled the pin(I am sure Jokic's performance affected their decision). Sasha Vezenkov is great player without the ball. If Nuggets got him we would see crazy plays with Nikola, but the Kings is also a team that can take advantage of his game.
Many of the best American players live in the central USA far away from any professional team. Nebraska , Iowa, Kansas , North / South Dakota. Not all Americans live in Los Angeles or New York City. Unlike France where most people in sports all come from Paris. Or Russia where all the athletes live in Moscow.
Why do you think that is?
@@whatslaps France and Russia have all their power and most of their economy based in n the capital. Was set up like that many years ago. Usa developed differently.
interesting. where are you from?
Based on your reasonings, American players' performance has remained stagnate, while European players' performance have improved, but is that really the case? Currently, the best players in the league are all foreign players, from Giannis to, Luka, Jokic, and Embiid, but are they better than prime KD, Curry, and Lebron, or other past American greats? While it is certainly true that the international players have improved alot, I think the biggest reason as to why the best players are all international players is because of the deterioration of American basketball players. The talent pool of American basketball are no longer on par with the past talents. The current best young American players like Tatum, Zion, Mitchell, Trae, and Ja are no where as good as the greats of the past.
watch my AAU video.
Europe produce players, USA produce "hoopers" thats it, so simple.
what's a "hooper" to you?
@@whatslaps the guy pushed by themselves, trainers, organizations to play 7 games a weekend and prove only his worth (not meant anything bad), where in Europe as in video player can't dominate right off the start when playing with bigger, stronger guys and have to learn basics... (its when you watchy hoopers youtube videos, amazing individuals-athletic, explosive but not necceserly a good thing for the long, sucessful carees. I am from Europe so that would be my "definition"
I think there were few factual errors. The ball size changes there IS The junior ball and women's ball and The The adults ball and IT changes as you grow up. Also The fact that The basketball IS only thing they Focus on IS bullshit. The basketball is most of The Time mainly club oriantated and The school IS completele separate. Some academys Will Have The school link but you have to perform and no slack Will Be given in school. Forexample Markkanen would Have probably Been one of The most educated people on Finland If he wasnt a NBA Pro. Lawyer, doctor etc.
I think The main things are more The team oriantated game, chance to play against adults and The popularity growing up in europe.
where are you from, man?
@@whatslaps Finland
I think that the video is very interesting while I have a divergent opinion as an European and NBA long time fan. I think that the main points are defense, amount of games in the regular season, and individual accolades and stats. At some point of late 90s regular season games became like choreographies, like dancing, with no intensity at all. I can understand that there is no way that a 30 year guy could resist full intensity 82 games over 150 days without serious injuries. But this is fake, this is corruption, this is WWF, and that ruins a winning team spirit and team competitiveness of American young players getting into the league. The most decent among these young players would focus in working for themselves, their stats, but embarrassed being forced to dance every two nights. Let's fix this, let's make regular seasons count, lower the number of games to 50 and make it count.
I see what you're saying, but can't stand for less basketball. Maybe if they made the post season longer. I got two questions for you though. Where are you from? And how old are you?
@@whatslaps Spain, 45. And it is not less basketball but more basketball, as currently most regular season games are the Bolshoi. And ballet isn't basketball.
And statistics of regular season are also fake. I remember that KGs fellows at timberwolves used to run away from the rim so that KG could grab his standard 20 rebounds a game. That's a shame and regular season stats should not be considered real.
yeah, the individual awards stuff is a net negative for the NBA
DIRK NOWITZKI
Who? ;)
So its "Total Basketball" everyone learns to do other positions so they can fill gaps
yeah that's a good way put it
@@whatslaps Well, I steal the term from Football/Soccer, Total Football, it makes sence that they would share strategies
None of this is relevant. The answer is more simple: population
1) Europe is more than twice the population of US. Bigger pool= more stars
2) Basketball is one of the most popular sports in Europe, as in USA. The difference is, Basketball has been experiencing a significant growth in Europe for the past decade. Tens of thousands of new courts open up across many countries due to higher demand to play the sport
The real question, is why hasnt Europe been dominating NBA? I think the answer is again, simple: people were not very interested in basketball until about 10-20 years ago. Its starting to dominate because the sport is gaining popularity
It'd be interesting if players started migrating to Euro league teams. It didn't work in China, but I could see it.
Not really. The population of the European Union is 447 million, compared with 331 million in the USA. You're cheating a bit by including Russia, whose territory is mostly in Asia. And no, basketball isn't very popular. It's secondary, far behind soccer. To give you some figures, in France (my country) there are 36.6 million sports practitioners, 6.6 of whom play a team sport, 4.6 soccer, 1.3 basketball, 1.2 volleyball, 0.6 handball and 0.4 rugby.
@@DecalageChope 1) the discussion is about Europe, not Europeam union. I hope you understand the difference. It makes no sense talking about EU instead of Europe win this specific topic. Why we would not include countries like Finland or Great Britain or Norway when looking at sports?
2) Russia IS in Europe. Vast majority of its population lives in Europe. Just because it has some territory in Asia, where few people live, doesnt make Russia asian. By your logic, Britain was in India, and France is actually African because most of its territory was once in Africa
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Moreover, Russia, and specifically the asian part of Russia, is like the most ethically european part in the world (I am from siberia, everyone in my school, and university, was white, unlike France which will soon be an african colony).
3) you yourself just said Basketball is the second most popular team sport in France....
Guess what, its also second most popular in US as well. Not first, second!
What is it you're arguing about, again?
@@artyomarty391 Look at the numbers I'm giving you. Can you tell the difference between 1 and 4? Yes, basketball is very secondary, and we could go into detail by talking about professional basketball. In France, you can dream of becoming a professional footballer, and there are many professional players, but for basketball it's anecdotal. There isn't the will or the professionalization that exists in the USA. I admit that there are more people in Europe than in the USA, but a smaller proportion of people want to play basketball, and an even smaller proportion of amateur players want to go professional. I'm not even sure that a majority of French people know that you can get paid to play basketball in their country. Nobody really cares, and the media hardly ever mention it. Compared to soccer, it's just not the same world. I'd have to check, but in other countries (Great Britain, Spain, Italy) it's even worse, where soccer is a religion. Other team sports are a joke (I'm telling you this as a handball player, I'm neutral).
@@DecalageChope Look at the logic I am giving you. Can you tell the difference between something being relevant and not being relevant?
obviously many more people are interested in soccer, but what the hell does that have to do with the current topic?
And France is not the center of the universe. Just because French suck at basketball, doesnt mean every European country does
Personally, growing up in Russia, I saw basketball get more and more popular. Yes. soccer is still way more popular, but what does that have to do with basketball? Why are you talking about apples, when the subject is oranges?
Just think for a second, forget about soccer. Talk about soccer with someone else, in a conversation about soccer. Has basketball gotten more popular with Frenchies in the past 2 decades?
Even if your answer is no, think about other countries in Europe?
I swear, so many French argue like 5 year olds...
Actually most top Euro players come from four countries Ex Yugoslavia Spain Italy and Greece.....
what countries are formally Yugoslavia?
@@whatslaps Bosnia Herzegovina, Serbia, Croatia ,Montenegro
in Taiwan, 6;5 would be a center lmao
Brian the booster!
The European players are stronger on the fundamentals.
I don't need to watch the video.
Much more entertaining to watch as well, reminds my old ass of how we played decades ago before ESPN.
how old are you? and where are you from?
@@whatslaps - in my 50s, grew up in rural north central USA.
I can't watch the NBA anymore. I grew up watching Dr. J, Bird, Magic, Kareem and all that skill seems absent in the NBA today. At least to me.
Let's try this: the banning of hand-checking after the 2003-2004 season. Just that started to change the NBA into more a European style of basketball.
this is true. hand checking is for the weak.
@@whatslaps And now, in 2024, the best European players like Nikoka Jokić with strong fundamentals in playing style are literally pushing around NBA players raised on American basketball. The only player that may eventually have something resembling a decent chance against Jokić is Victor Wembanyama, another European-trained player.
Not easy for the score to reach triple digits when we play eight minutes less in FIBA basketball. Same reason why a triple double is so rare everywhere but the NBA.
yeah, I didn't realize the game was shorter when I made this video.
They have better fundamentals. Plus there's more people in Europe.
astute observation!
@whatslaps 900 mil people, especially with tall genetics, means more tall guys to choose from. They still call the rules there, helps fundamentals. American kids' games are called like direct ball.
Yes, theres more pple in Europe but most of europeans teens wants to be a football player than basket,theres way more sports more popular than basket in Europe.
So what u said dnt make sense at all
Europe is starting to do this with American football too.
that's amazing! which countries?
@@whatslaps I know England and Germany are. There has been a rise in D-1 recruits coming from Europe.
That is not good for US...:D
@@kekicjovan The US still beats Euro teams in the olympics.
In Europe boys learn to play basketball, in the USA boys learn to muscle up in gyms to jump a lot.
I see you. where are you from?
@@whatslaps Spain.
i also think europeans care more about winning than being a diva
true. we divas
Let's be really honest, nobody in Europe cares about Basketball (unfortunately, it's amazing). It's not even top 5 in terms of sports in most European countries. It's barely played anywhere here at any serious level. You will literally struggle to find teams to play even casually. Imagine if people in Europe actually cared about it and put an insane focus on it with money and infrastructure like America does. Europeans would dominate. They already are dominating the league despite the sport being so unpopular in the region compared to other sports. Our best athletes all play other sports. America are only the "best" at Basketball because the rest of the world don't care about it.
Where are you from?
In foodball we call it tika taka in basketball we call it o-5sec ... makes all in - one more player.... EU is a power (BALKAN ESSENTIAL) ps is starts with drazen PETROVIC , divac, kukoc, radza, komazec, and one and only KRESIMIR COSIC!!! NBA hass luck that eu is not united (NBA 51 states and in EU countrie clubs) Imagine today Jokic, Saric, Antetokounmpo, Vezenkov, Doncic, Nurkic, Bobi Marijanovic + other Marijanovic players. yooooo NBA BEST ONES WOULD BE LIKE (CHOKOLINO BABY FOOD)
I can only imagine
The reality is that FIBA has been the ABA since 2016 cause it's more harder than NBA. Lebron played the weak competition like Kareem did in 70s
where are you from?
@@whatslaps why? I m not from europe
just curious
And how about American players shining in Euroleague? Hahaha even others are getting recruited by other European Countries hahahaha cmon man🤣
Checkmate.
It's not very accurate especially once you mentioned soccer. A 13 year old does ot play for the national team. He plays for the u14 national team. He won't play against grown ups in fact he isn't even allowed. In europe you can turn pro at the age of 15 at the earliest I think. That's soccer not basketball tho, don't know about how it is done there. Yet...the thing with the youth academies for soccer especially is also not very accurate or just let me say you left out a HUGE difference between the US and Europe. In europe in german for example EVERY SINGLE VILLAGE!. And yes I said village!. Has it's own soccer team with their own 1st 2nd and then youth teams. In germany we talking bambini, F, E, D, C, B, A Team (wich are based on age). Then the first and the second team wich then is the villages team. Those Clubs have their own fields, several of em have two different fields actually and are in villages with less then 10.000 citizens. This means that if you dont want to stop playing officiall soccer in germany you'll never have to. There is even AH (Alte Herren) (Old guys) teams in those villages. So a kid or grown up NEVER plays for his school, he plays for his hometown. Or swaps to another town. Maybe what follows now puts talent into perspective for some americans. Basically the 1st and second team in towns and villages those people played soccer all their life since bambinis even. Some of them can't even manage to play in the 1st squad or be on the bench there. And in thosw cases we talk about kreisliga wich is the lowest tier in germany but still officiall. Those teams could theoretically make it into the 1st bundesliga. Teams in soccer move up and down. Yes Bayern Munich could theoretically end up in Kreisliga soccer. So the tiers are as followed I think. Kreisliga C, Kreisliga B, Kreisliga A, Bezirksliga, Landesliga, Ober Liga, Regional Liga, 3rd Bundesliga, 2nd Bundesliga, 1st Bundesliga. Now put a Kreisliga A team into the Bezirksliga and they gonna get swapped like 8:0 nearly every game. That's the talent difference. Now mind you there are players in the second squads of Kreisliga teams. The players of the 1st team wouldnt be talented enough to play in bezirksliga tho. And this goes on up. Like bezirksliga would be a-whooped by regionalloga players. And they wouldn't stand a chance there. Again it would rain 8:0s.
So how does the system actually work. Well some try out for academies. Some get asked by academies tho. So lets say a kid starts for his local kreisliga F team at a young age. And he is leagues and bounds better then his competition. Chances are that a landesliga squad or bezirksliga squad takes notice of the kid and gets him for their youth team. Now there are different leagues in youth socver. The highest is the u19 bundesliga. But they also play in their local areas. So they more so qualifie for a tournement at the end to decide who is the best under 19 club. So this means that a regionalloga or even bezirksliga under 19 club or under 14 club could very well play in the same league as lets say dortmunds u14 or u19. They have different leagues like I said. They dont automatically play in the youthversion of the samd league their first squad would play in. So now that child we talked about could play against the youth of dortmund. And if he is leagues and bounds ahead of others in that league. Dortmund may ask him to join. May even already offer him money. So he moves there. Now he needs to be good enough to one day make it into their under 19 squad. But there come new talents every year. And its also 15 year olds, 16 year olds, 17 year olds playing for that under 19 squad. So he basically needed to be the best in his generation in his local area BY FAR so people take notice!. He then would need to be the best in a more professional environment against players from a 200 kilometer radius in his new club. Then someone takes true notice and he joins dortmund. Then it gets really hard!. Cause at that point he needs to be not only one of the best of his own age group. He needs to be the best of 4 to 5 different age groups as you dont have to be 19 to play in under 19 squads. So he then basically starts for dortmunds u19. Beating out millions of children in germany alone that tried at once. And then he is one of 23 people in that team. And every bundesliga club and like I said other clubs aswell have teams in that league. So NOW he needs to be one of the ABSOLUTE BEST of all the players that had a simular hyoed up journey he had TO EVER have a SLIGHT chance to start in a game in 1st bundesliga. And let me tell you MOST of u19 players of dortmund or munich or schalke or stuttgart NEVER even come CLOSE to sniffing the pitch in a 1st bundesliga game. THAT'S THE FULL YOUTH SYSTEM. So yeah he is 19 now playing for the u19 of dortmund. And well...it's prolly over for him as chances are a year ago a 17 or 18 year old turned full pro for the 1st team of dortmund already beeing again twice as talented as him and all the other players in that league... now imagine this is happening all around the world, not just in europe. Soccer is by far the most played sport world wide. You may now as an american have gotten a slight taste of the skill you would need just of HOW MUCH talent and of HOW MUCH MORE talented you would need to be then literally hundreds of millions of other kids world wide to even play in u19 bundesliga in germany, cause F yeah, there are players there that aren't german and didn't start their path in germany. I remember bayern munich once signing a 12 year old from brazil for their u14 club. With house for the family and so on. This kid had to have been off f'n limits for his age in brazil!. He NEVER was heard off again!. And now imagine you make it into 2nd or even 1st bundesliga. You make money playing soccer, good money actually. So now be THE BEST AT YOUR POSITION out of 18 other bundesliga clubs and you may have a chance to play for bayern munich one day. Or dortmund. Yet, chances are they gonna buy somebody from another country anyway. So now BE THE BEST at munich for anyear and you had an insane career. Be the best of your league and you are godly talented. BE THE BEST IN THE WORLD SEVERAL F'N TIMES EVEN THO NEW PLAYERS COME IN ALL THE TIME and you are a f'n alien...aka Messi. That's why you CAN'T and it would be disgusting to TRY to cpmare MJ or lebron to Messi. Messi is the GOAT period, no matter the sport. The competition in basketball is childplay compared to soccer!. That's why people get pissed when americans do that. Not only is basketball not even played by a quarter the amount of people that play soccer. You also can cut that sh into a quarter just becaise of height. And then you may gonna finally get that in all reality and I truly mean that....if you look at it that way "who'm you are competing with if of decent height to become a basketball pro is 1% the amount of people that Soccer players had to compete with" FACTS
woah
Vlady divak?!? Is this the way you pronunce it in US?!?
haha that's how I've always said it.
probably because they started taking basketball seriously and used coaching methods from football(the real one)?
yeah, that sounds right to me
Then why do the US teams always smash the Euro teams in the olympics? Edit: those are Euro rules and they STILL lose to the USA regularly hahahahaha
hahahaha
The more relevant question might be, where are the white American players? Or to take race out is it, where are the American-born players who would thrive in a more-team oriented environment utilizing basic skills? Would someone like Doncic have played basketball and prospered in America? Or would he have been encouraged to do baseball, volleyball or waterpolo to get a full scholarship at MIT and become an engineer? American basketball is college-oriented and even at the lowest level values flash and athleticism over basic skills.
I got lost. Are you saying there are American kids who would have been team players that would have thrived in Europe?
@@whatslaps no. I’m saying a 6 foot 6 American white teen would get lost in the flash of high school basketball. He would likely be steered toward pitching or quarterbacking if he had superior arm strength and athleticism. In Europe, he would be steered toward basketball.
In the US, the standard is heard toward the black American standard, which is very athletic, individual, confrontational.
40 years ago, there was still an alternate philosophy, most exemplified by Princeton but to a lesser extent by Duke. But now even at the middle school level, it’s all about Star power and outrunning and gunning your opponent rather than fundamentals.
@@whatslaps the real story is the near complete disappearance of American-born white players under 7 feet tall. There are millions of non-black basketball prep players in the US and there could be millions more. A generation ago there were many non-big white American players. But it seems the only white players left in the league are European. Why? It seems the only answer is the American way of basketball development is hostile to white boys. They either choose other sports, are discriminated against for how they look or how they play, or some other reason.
There should be 100 more 6’8” white kids than 7’ but we only see Chet Holmgren or Walter Kessler because 7 feet is 7 feet.
Not generally european but precisely slavic ones
In regards to which part of the video?
You seem to have forgotten all the Spanish and German players...
Correction, it's not soccer it's football.
I stand corrected.
Usa is about ego, Europe is about team and discipline. In Europe coaches are the stars and some behave as the soviet generals. Edit: this guy talks nonsense about national teams. Young national teams play vs each other. You dont have 13 yrs olds playing vs adults. Also Divac is Divatz, not Divak.
seems like that's what most people are saying. thanks for the engagement!
They haven't been brain washed,or put on the blue collar train as in America.
I don't understand
I am more knowledgeable of soccer. In the USA regular seasons have so many games in most sports. Teams play one another so many times, that many of those games are meaningless. Sports in the USA seem more entertainment in Europe some sort of tribal psychodrama replacement for battle.
In Europe there are major and minor leagues with relegations and promotions. In the USA the top leagues are always the same rich franchises. In Europe a small town team could be promoted to the top league and play the most powerful clubs.
If I walk into a sports bar in nyc, when people are watching American football, most people are socializing, drinking and occasionally take a look at the screen, compared to some European important soccer game, like a champions league final. Everyone is focused and concentrated, and people tend to buy drink only during the intermission.
Some of these aspects may apply to basketball as well. In the USA it’s more just a business. They built an arena in Brooklyn, so they just renamed a team from New Jersey and brought it over.
yeah, this is a good point. Personally I don't even support a team. I have no emotional connections to any of them. I like watching the show sunderland til I die, because it's cool to see a community care about their sports team.
You can socialize and drink during American football because it’s a lot of stopping and commercial breaks. You might think it’s a downside of the sport. But if you ever played you would know that it’s totally necessary. Football is not a free flowing sport it takes a lot of planning and strategy kinda like chess.
@@Ace-mw9pm yes. It looks like it is a planned game. The plays are so quick, and the helmet and armor makes everyone look alike. The quick plays prevented me getting into it. I remember years ago randomly watching a bit of the Rugby World Cup, without much familiarity with the sport, and it looked amazing. There were paused, but quick. The flow and the energy of the game were addicting. Soccer seems to have became such a faster game than a few decades ago. More athletic players, much faster running with the ball, many more goals from much further distance. Just looking at different CZcams videos with highlights of players for AC Milan like Gianni Rivera, Van Basten, Kakà, Ibrahimovic in different decades shows a very different kind of play.
It's Divats not Divak
We been saying Divak since I was wearing Cweb Dadas
@@whatslaps And never learned since or learned but keep mispronouncing his name on purpose? :)
probably a little of both tbh
How are they so good? Easy. The game is purer overseas where the focus is on gameplay moreso than individual athletic skills.
yeah, you right. Somehow I managed to milk 7 minutes out of the topic.
nba is too much of a show, it's more of a business rather than a sport, it's too focused on highlights, flashy plays, insanely high single game points because of trash defense and no teamplay, coaches don't really matter, it's like they don't even exist, whereas in europe they play a much bigger part, they actually lead teams to victory, europe fans are much more attached to the team they support rather than one single player (stars) for the nba... these are just some differences... eu basketball is more raw nba is more fiction? i guess, i see it that way
interesting. where are you from?
@@whatslaps italy, i used to follow the nba a lot when i was younger and more naive, as i grew older i found myself enjoying a purer and more genuine type of basketball, not necessarily euroleague, but lower divisions/leagues as well, where money is not the main focus and passion can thrive freely
@@MbowCzn to each his own, if you like seeing scrubs play 😂
@@Ace-mw9pm i just like supporting my local teams, even though they are not the best players they know ball, it's interesting to see how your club of the city you grew up in grows and develops over the years, fighting for that promotion to the next league or the italian championship or fighting for a spot in the euroleague, in the end we just lack that nba athleticism/dribbling, worse shooting percentages are justified by an insanely good defense, fortunately in the first two leagues teams get to sign a set number of foreigners and they almost always go for americans so we get to experience their talent too, it's interesting to see how two different playstyles mix, i suggest you watch some game recaps from either the first league or second league of italian basketball, they are not better than nba teams but they aint scrubs either lol it's just a different style of play and atmosphere
ne študirajo do konca na univerzi NCAA igralci.oni bi radi takoj zaslužili kot Bryant.evropski igralci pa pridejo v NBA PO NEKAJ SEZONAH V EVROLIGI
exactly.
To make it short: better youth programs, a more generalist approach to the game, and less personality cult and divas, did I get that right?
yeah, basically. why make it short when you make it a 9 minute youtube video?
@@whatslaps You're doing a good job with your explanations. I have no clue about basketball, only played it during PE sometimes from form 6 to 8, but I could follow your reasoning and explanations. Well done and thank you for your insight.
no problem! glad you liked it
More arrogance