GoT Season 7 Being Devoid of Logic
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- A Critique of Game of Thrones season 7 poking fun at all the things that did not make sense. Making some memes along the way and coughing Varys in spirit this devoid of Logic is similar to the ones on Season 8 of Game of thrones.
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Dont you know? The point of Arya becoming a faceless man wasn't to be a faceless man. It was to know how to switch hands with a knife.
😂😂😂😂😂
Holy shit. I didn't realize this until you said something. Writing was terrible, now it got even worse to my eyes.
Don't forget the puppy eyes, such a powerful and vicious skill that it stopped the night king from simply snapping her neck, true story.
i see ur avatar and rather than saying fucking weeb. I will say good choice
@@nailtoolofamusement 😂😂😂😂
Never stop making fun of GOT man, please
iag0_exe pls
That's shit
Please do stop, it’s getting kinda annoying
At some point it’ll have to. In a few months the show will have ended a year ago and you can only make fun of the same scenes so many times before it loses its value
I’m your 1K
The entire mission to capture a Wight is the most insulting thing about season 7.
Platzpropeller it’s a great thing that once she finally took King’s Landing she did it peacefully and let all the commoners live in harmony with the new reign
can i ask why? i get season 8 was trash and season 7 was questionable, but the way I see it bringing 1 wight makes sense so cersei could actually see what they are all talking about.
They should ve just taken a video in their cell phones. They have jet packs and shit then why not
Had they brought some fucking horses or some goddamn dog sleds it would have made more sense. A lot easier to outrun a bunch of stumbling skeletons when you have some real transportation, especially when you're carrying back a payload.
why
When bron tackled jaime into the water, they were on the coast right? How did they immediately sink into the deepest part of the ocean
It was a river and maybe a deep one at the shores. It was still bad but maybe it can be explained by that.
@@czoborarpi Nope it showed deep water all around them when they go underwater. Yet he was only tackled a few meters from the waters edge.
How did bron magically teleport from being behind?
yeah, also, how long exactly do they stay under water? They have to wait until Drogon and Dany go away, because he just tried to kill the queen, they would wanna make sure Jaime dies, no? But also, they gotta breathe... this moment was what made me stop watching it, i only know season 8 because of all the diss it's gettin
The river was so deep that I was surprised that Euron's magic stealth fleet didn't teleport into it during the battle.
I lost it at “ my name is Barry Allen, I am the fastest man alive”
And when he fell in the snow.
There was a video on CZcams (not sure it still exists) that's basically a montage of that scene, but adding the special effects and soundtrack of the Flash series. It's only 30 seconds long or so, but it was pretty hilarious. XD
Was just about to literally post the same comment word for word
@@MrDibara link please
@@TheBanaxel FOUND IT!
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I am so glad this still exists!
Now THAT'S a proper use of foreshadowing!
Season 7 being bad foreshadowed the travesty that was season 8.
Season 7 still wasn't THAT bad compared to season 8. Also, I think some of the season 7 issues were overlooked because people still had hope they'd wrap it all up well in season 8.
@@XxMVPxDawg that's true
@@XxMVPxDawg Nothing is quite that bad when compared to season 8. Take the shit I just took. Id rather sniff that for 5 hours rather than watch season 8 again.
@@XxMVPxDawg there waere some really stupid things happened at 7 for example Dany dropping down from her dragon while she is still in a battle just to pull a spear that didn't even stop it from moving was dumb and stupid at least do it after you either won the fight or left the battlefield.
@@ChefofWar33 Gross!
Tyrion in S1: I am accused of being a dwarf and I have been on trial for that my entire life”
Tyrion in S8: “i HaVe baLls ANd yOu dOnT”
Season 4*
Just rewatching the show. Tyrion is full-on making balls jokes in the first few seasons, too. I don't get it why is everyone surprised at this... :D (or is he not in the english version? i'm watching it with dubs)
@@zzsofi1552 There were more ball jokes present in s7-8 and he had far less great lines than in previous seasons while aslo being a pretty useless character after s4 which is a shame because he was my favorite up until then.
That was in Season 4 during his trial. Best Season of the show anyway in my opinion
Point?
Tyrion: “let’s show Cersei a wight”
Cersei: ‘always has the mountain by her side’
F C Magic spells carved into the wall will not allow the dead to go beyond it. So it makes no sense that they were able to take one beyond the wall and to Cersei. They just forgot the established rules of their own created universe. There are so many contradictions in this series that I had to switch my brain off completely in order to be able to enjoy the eye candy battle scenes and such. But even the battles seriously went downhill in terms of quality. The creators of the series simply did not care anymore. That’s it.
Abdelkarim Karim oh yeah, I forgot about that. And clearly so did the creators
@@abdelll9737 Its not their own created universe and thats why it failed. As soon as the source material(the books) finished and they had to come up with their own things, the nonsense started. They clearly didn't know what are they doing and didnt know the world created by Martin very well
Abdelkarim Karim yeah true but I guess because they flew over the wall maybe the magic didn’t work
@@abdelll9737 You're wrong bro, they can pass if the humans let them (that's why in season 1 they could pass and attack the lord commander)
Littlefinger's death was basically sum of GoT Season 8. Rushed, makes no sense, out of character, and pathetic ending to one of 2 most intelligent characters in whole film. Other one being Varys of course.
And then there is Doran Martel: character as smart as both Littlefinger and Varys exept... Doran never even got a chance to shine...His death was even more pathetic imho
tell me more about it
@@pixelhunter5709 Wait a minute your still alive Mylord
@@pixelhunter5709 *chops off head then burns the stump*
Two of the smartest men in the series and one gets outed like a fucking Scooby Doo villain and the other may as well have just walked around Dragonstone with a sign saying "Dany's a fool, Jon Snow should rule". They deserved better.
Euron: *crouches*
His whole fleet: *disappears*
Yara and Theon: *Guess it must have been my imagination.*
@@destructiveraider *must have been the wind*
Little known fact: Euron Greyjoy was tutored extensively by Ursarkar E. Creed, TACTICAL GENIUS.
The thing about Iron fleet not being seen is Daenerys being at Dragonstone , the purpose of Dragonstone is to control Blackwater bay to protect King's Landing thats why Stannis Baratheon is here while his brother Robert reign at King's Landing.
Its not a total war game xd
I really like how when they leave beyond the wall on the Wight Quest, there's only named characters present, but whenever the scene needs a death to add some stakes, a random extra just appears lmao
Hahaha yeah I noticed that too
jesus i just noticed that, thats wild!
Literaly everyone should've died at the lake but the plot armor was strong with them. The only non-extra who died was Thoros because he froze in his sleep
I've been going through GoT for the first time and I noticed that too. Like where did all those randos come from? People love knocking on Season 8 which I'm about to go through but not enough criticism is given towards Season 7. They focus an extreme amount of spectacle over story. Season 6 was the same with spectacle over story, big payoffs over well constructed plot developments. Cersei repeatedly being described as stupid by the characters throughout the show yet somehow devises a plot that rids her of her enemies in one fell swoop.
Yeah like I was expecting an important character to die when someone got overwelmed, trying to decipher who it was just to understand that it's an extra who just magically appeared for his death, cause there clearly were just important characters when they left the wall. GoT really became a cheap action fantasy show, which started in season 5 with all the nonsensical plot closures and overall boring events.
*Sansa:* "How do you answer these charges, Lord Baelish?"
*Littlefinger:* "I demand a trial by combat."
I just realized something, didn't Sansa give Littlefinger 'guest right' since he was a guest at Winterfell? So she's now technically a Lannister, a Bolton AND a Frey 😂
Technicallly... trial by combat was banned by King Tommen before the North re-declared independence.
@@kaiserdb Even if it wasn't, who would fight for him? Even if somebody would, Arya or Brienne would win.
*Brandon stark flashbacks*
It would have been a better hail mary option than crying like a bitch.
I kinda tolerated season 7 at the time but seeing how bad season 8 was made me realize that season 7 was also really bad.
And Season 5 and 6 weren't great overall either tbh, looking back.
@Horacio Nelson I remember thinking season7 was uncomfortably bad at the time, but I think everyone gave it a little space in the assumption/hope that the dumbness was necessary plot-wrangling to set up a glorious season 8. And then it was trash.
it was okay. we were hoping for 8 to redeem it but oh man....
I thought season 7 was even worse than 8, at least 8 had some good ideas that were rushed, 7 was just dumb non-stop
@Horacio Nelson same. S8 had a lot of outrage but I was pissed at S7 for sure.
“sHe iS mY qUeEn”
This isn’t even related to this video I’m just still mad about it
Aye dun want et
@@forman208 she is OUR kween!
Mis Waridi YOUR MY QUEEN I DUN KNO WHAT ELSE TO SAY
Just smother it with a pillow.
So fucking stupid that you know Dumb and Dumber wrote the last two seasons to be so fucking retarded on purpose. I'm still on board to boycott anything with their names attached to it, like Gemini Man
Ned Stark: "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword."
Sansa: "I am no man."
This made me LOL. It’s a seemingly minor gripe in the context of the trash pile that’s things were at that point, but one that is actually a major insult to the character of Sansa because it’s a complete contradiction of what she stands for to forget this well-known principle of Ned. Plus I think she was both capable and would personally have wanted to do it herself.
you kinda forgot sansa doesnt know how to use a knife lmao
Then Sansa shouldn't be passing any sentences, if she doesn't know how to use a knife. Neither does Arya, they just invented that after she killed the Waif offscreen in the dark. Fact is Arya learned nothing and Sansa didn't figure anything out without Bran telling her everything. Shitty writing.
The Sansa/Arya execution of Littlefinger was one of the least problematic things from the last two seasons (excluding their evidence gathering process to get there). Eddard always made sure that the boys were present for executions and official duties and passed those life lessons on to them. The girls never endured the lessons about the man who passes the sentence swinging the sword. They and their broken AI brother got to have their girl power moment guilt free not knowing that this was the first time the Starks had used an executioner.
lol
"Alright so how are the dead going to get to us?"
"They may try to go through castle black, we can flood the two sides of the wall on the coastline, after which a small garrison should be able to hold either flank."
"Sounds good, if they were to come through Castle Black then what's our best chance?"
"Unsullied excel in close quarters, especially in formation, a choke point like that should be unassailable to say the very least, especially with 8000 reinforcing unsullied."
"Fantastic, looks like our odds are good, can they climb the wall?"
"Nah, no chance, that wall is incredibly high, their frail bodies wouldn't make it, especially if we have a few hundred unsullied on top to knock any down that were to make it."
"Well I don't know about you guys but our odds are looking incredible, our biggest weakness is the amount of supplies we'll need, if they try to starve us out it may cause problems."
"Don't worry about that, we can take King's Landing before they invade, and with it we should be able to occupy all of their farmland and prepare for the invasion, with the amount of Dothraki and Unsullied we have to perform the labour we should be able to amass a huge stockpile of grain."
"What about the civilians, they could be at risk if we siege the town!"
"It's alright, a quick siege is our best chance, we can aim to minimise losses, but if we don't secure it soon then they'll starve come winter anyway, as preparations are not in place, the whole city should be rallied to prepare for this coming threat."
"Ah yeah that makes sense, what's a few hundred deaths compared to that of the entire kingdom?"
"Indeed."
"It's a good thing they don't have a dragon isn't it, then they'd break right through that wall"
"I know, that'd be awful."
Hopesedge by my guess they do have a dragon, but is it expected that they would have dragons which makes this scene stupidly d and unreasonable or just ironic?
I think I love you, man 😢😭
they don't even need to siege. just burn down the gate and the unsulied can take the city without killing innocents (as they have no bloodlust)
@@leonpaelinck no bloodlust? Do you remember Greayworms we don't take prisoners at Kings Landing?
@@manuelcardenas7958 that was Greyworm's idea to kill them all, not the other Unsullied. He's different bc his lover just died
Season 7
Bran : I'll never be lord of anything
Season 8
Tyrion : If you choose you, will you wear this crown?
Bran : Why do you think I came all this way? *smirk*
He kinda forgot he couldt be lord of anything
@@PlanetaJuegosPC well, not lord but a king... But i do agree it is still stupid
he wanted to go higher. Hence, no lordship.
@ *Lord of Six Kingdom , but yeah you got the point, i guess it just bad writing that tryhard to subvert our expectation
He wasn’t lying though lol he’s the king not a lord...it’s still stupid lol
Tyrion's idea in S7 still remains one of the most moronic ideas I have ever heard. Why go through so much trouble when Dany can destroy Cersei in in a hour using only drogon. Keep in mind that she had 3 dragons, a whole dothraki horde, 8k unsullied and the army's of Dorne, Highgarden and the Grevjoys. Why would she need Cersei anyway?
Lmao yes, and also there was this some group with a white walkers in it separated from the group lol and what's more surprising is when they killed the white walker and wow one wight actually survived? Fucking logic man, fucking logic hahahah
It was because "I am not here to be Queen of the Ashes". But yeah.
S7 was actually just as bad as S8 but there was a bigger reserve of fan good will at that point.
Add to that that Tyrion should be THE person who knows that there is no chance that Cersei will help them. Why would she help Daenerys and Jon, her biggest enemies, when the army of the dead can fight them for her and all she will have to deal with is what's left. Too bad D&D killed Tyrion and replaced him with some random idiot who looks like him.
@@gerritdeman6410 Tyrius Lannister should go hang out with Jake Skywalker. They have a lot in common.
"I cannot be lord of anything... A *king* on other hand-"
There's one more big inconsistency, the soldier of night king (presumably dead for 50-60 years judging by the decomposition), cannot breakthrough the wooden crate in season 7, but people dead for centuries just punch their way out of stone graves in winterfell in season 8
Jon brooding for x minutes
He's way better at brooding than I am. He makes me look like I am failing at brooding over failing :/
Muh queen.
eye dun wint it
“i Am NoT hErE tO bE qUeEn Of ThE aShEs”
she was no queen though, so all is fine ;)
@@TheAudioCGMan no its not dumbass
@@TheAudioCGMan she was queen dumbass
Dany: I´m going to burn them all for... reason...
John: WHAT? You said you don´t want to be queen of ashes!
Dany: Oh, yes, thanks for reminding me. I´m going to let few of them alive so I´ll have someone to rule...
@@aditiadalatwale5816 She was never the queen
Six seasons of epic character development, and now that Arya’s a faceless man, she doesn’t use any of her skills.
Jon is a Targaryen and literally nothing happens from that. The whole Red God prophecy is forgotten.
Bran can warg into anything now and can do psychic time travel but he just stares at people for 2 seasons and does nothing.
Varys and Tyrion go from the smartest characters to complete jokes.
Dany has this interesting mad queen transformation that could have been cool if it hadn’t happened in one episode.
The entire show has been building on the giant threat of the white walkers for so many seasons, but in season 8 they are defeated in 1 episode...
Don’t know why I wrote all this so yeah...
Wow dude, Jon being a Taegaryen had no effect on the story? Like how dumb are you GoT fans? I am so sorry that your desperation to trash an amazing yet flawed series has robbed you from seeing the obvious point that was clearly conveyed, but Jon's Targaryen blood was most definitely not some insignificant detail.
And jesus dude, Dany didn't just "turn" in one episode. How blind are you? There was an obvious slow and telegraphed descent into her "madness." Granted, season 8 was hella rushed but even within the span of those episodes, the reasons for her "turn" were CLEARLY highlited. You just didn't want to see it. You and others were just blinded to the fact that she was always a tyrant with violent impulses. Of course she wasn't completely evil, but ended up becoming that way...which is the beauty of ASOIAF. Isn't that GRRM's whole shtick? Gray characters. Fictional, albeit realistic people.
I'll leave you with a little hint at what GRRM was trying to convey; notice how the dude with an actual legitimate claim to the throne, the most morally good dude, who inspired loyalty in everyone DID NOT want the throne? Notice how the beautiful, over entitled person with an army of castrated slaves and war mongering barbarians, who was obsessed with power, who had lofty ambitions of changing the world and breaking the wheel, ended up becoming Hitler?
This isn't Disney's a game of thrones my dude. It's real life shit.
@@yearofthedawgs8581 What impact did it have? Im genuinely curious i havent watched the show for a while and all i remember is people making incest jokes about it
@@heybro4000 it gave the most honorable man a claim to the throne, but more importantly, was one of the biggest causes of dany turning psycho. It was one thing that the man she loved had more of a loyal following than her in Westeros, and that he obviously would have been a betger regent...but completely different thing that he had a legitimate claim to the throne, something she has been obsessed with since the beginning of the show. Plus, once he realized that he was prettt much banging his aunt, he withdrew his love from her, further adding to Dany feeling as if no one would ever truly love her. Up until this point, all of her lovers and friends had either betrayed her or died...she had even lost three kids...so yeah, Jon being a Targaryen was what broke the camel's back and drove Dany to her realization that she must rule by fear.
Not to mention that once word got out, rebellions would no doubt arise and people would have tried putting Jon on the throne even against his will. Dany, despite her dragons saving Westeros, would never have been popular, especially in the shadow of humble, dragon-riding, honest, death-defying, war-hero Jon Targaryen.....honestly, it revealed a lot about dany and her true intentions. She was simply power hungry and wanted power over people. She only cared about building "a better world" only if she was the one in charge of it.
So anyone saying that Jon's true ancestry was meaningless is literally retarded and just mad their favorite character didn't win the throne, and missed the obvious point GRRM was trying to make about power.
@@yearofthedawgs8581 Go Dawgs!
@@cobo1316 hell yeah
Season 1-4: BEST SHOW EVER!
Season 5-6: Best show ever???
Season 7-8: Worst. Show. Ever (In Comic Book Guy's voice)
Seasons 5 and 6 were dope. Not perfect but it would still be the best show ever if it just ended after S6
@@CM-ip7ti Season 5 had Hardhome, but it also had 20 gud men and Dorne. This shit was unforgivable.
@@at0mic11 Hardhome and BoB are overrated and have high amount of plot armour s5 and s6 were bad but s6 had winds of winter.
5 was kinda bland but 6 was badass. Daenerys was boring the whole way but the scenes with everyone else made up for her blandness.
Season 5 was so bad that I stopped watching it before it finished. The reaction to season 8 was kind of weird because it wasn’t a huge drop in quality from Season 5.
It pisses me off because the Lord of Light gave the Hound the vision of where to get the wight, but the entire result of the LoL's vision was for Viserion to die and for nothing to come of bringing the wight to Cersei. Literally nothing. What was the point of the vision Lord of Light?!!!!!!
Well, one could argue that giving the NK a dragon to tear the wall finally began the war of the living vs the dead, ending in his final defeat. Perhaps the LoL intended to deliver the NK something like a trojan dragon. Make him think he recieved a great gift, just to discover the only place Visceron was flying the NK was to his doom. Maybe not the best idea from a story point, but it at least fits the theme of the Gods working in odd ways.
@@Jordan-vc4cn True, and it is a theory I would more readily accept if the Night King had died directly because of Viserion rather than extremely indirectly. Yes, Viserion got him beyond the wall but we dont know whether they were truly stopped by the wall or not. We know people SAID they were, but there were at least 3 wights that continued to work even south of the wall.
So I guess another way I would accept it more is if they didn't make it seem like the White Walkers were a threat to the south long before the Night King got Viserion.
Like if they had had him try to get beyond the wall, and fail. Instead of hyping up the threat as legitimate to the south rather than something that the wall actually protected against.
My bet Is that d & d initially wanted to make more seasons to develope all of this, but then they laid eyes on star wars and couldnt wait to cash in
@@ilteschio8244 wrooooong. They were offered longer episodes/more episodes but they said no because they were out of material and out of brain cells.
There was no point in any of it they threw it all out the window in favour of "shock and awe" with nonsense plot twists
If you wanted to point out lack of logic, why not point out that taking King's Landing and depose Cersei while still having 3 dragons? Dany was more likely to overwhelm, so she could do less, destroy less and take the capitol, not only to increase the number of soldiers to fight the undead and to gain the resource of willdfire, but also as a fallback position if the worst happens up north.
BUT THEY HAD TO FIGHT THE DEAD!!!!1111!!!!1!!!!!!
@@riri3531 If you're referring to fighting the army of the dead, how would it not have been better, tactically to have the advantages of terrain, increased number of strongholds to fend them off while reducing their numbers, increased manpower, increase means of weaponized fire and because of terrain the ability to more easily perform maneuvers like encirclement to pick them off and retreat after engaging?
If you're referring to my use of "undead", a zombie is a zombie and they went out like punks anyway.
@@sardonically-inclined7645 Issajoke. I'm mainly reffering to how D&D must have been thinking
Daenerys actually wanted to do that! She tells Tyrion she wants to take her 3 dragons to the red keep and kill Cersei but nooooooo, that would make her mad you see??? Dany in reality had the power to literally destroy Cersei in a few hours but they wanted to even the field between them because she was too powerful...Fucking D&D ruining everything.
@@doritosmith4379 I know. Ultimately it changed nothing, except engineering the most contrived way to turn her mad and assassinated her character, so they could focus on other projects. I was happy when I heard about the Star Wars thing falling through. I was livid when I heard about the deal they got with Netflix.
Don't forget it was established that those who die beyond the wall come back as wights. So when their extra was killed by that undead polar bear, they could have just tied up his corpse, waited for him to revive, and then carried him back.
Avoided the entire later catastrophe.
A million times this. Heck, there's probably been a death at castle black they could just use as a wight instead of burning their body.
A WW or the NK needs to do their "thing" to revive them
@@leonpaelinck Oh? So in S1E08, when a Wight attacks Snow and Mormont in his chambers, where's the White Walker hiding?
@@GreyHunter88 Bran Stark created that wight from the future
@@GreyHunter88 It was already a Wight, just playing dead, it was a trojan horse-esque ploy. Sam points this out when they first discover the bodies. They was no blood or signs of an attack etc. The Wights were placed there to be found.
Season 7 and 8 are like the new Star Wars trilogy, entertaining to watch until you start thinking about what's happening.
Its pretty bizarre. I WAS entertained and while I was watching I didn't really feel it was that bad, atleast until the night king's death. Amazing how much your brain can turn off when faced with high budget action.
Don't put the last jedi there, I still think that was a great fucking film, but unfortunately the whole trilogy never worked as a whole...but as far as trying to make star wars more austere and introspective, it's still my favorite
@@UNSTABLE111 ah the only good movie was force awakens the other 2 was super bad
@@UNSTABLE111 Nah.
@@UNSTABLE111 the last jedi fucked the trilogy beyond repair its the worst one out of the 3
*me trying to get over GOT*
CZcams algorithm: "GoT season 7 being Devoid of Logic"
me: "aaa shit, here we go again"
Been there done that XD
The more information I see/hear, the more pissed I get.
Accurate and relatable
i just ruined your 666 likes forgive me brother
still here
Is it not known that dragons are very difficult to kill?
Meraxes getting hit in the eye was like a one-in-million shot- & the ones killed at other times were either killed by other dragons, were young & held in the confining space of the Dragonpit, &/or were overwhelmed, but weren’t taken down without serious casualties.
It’s literally said in canon that it’s a fallacy that a dragon’s underbelly is a weak spot.
I can *maybe* buy the Night King doing it (If that’s what it takes to get me past the aneurysm of that whole scenario), but not Euron *on a ship, that’s constantly moving with the motions of the seas* .
I don't hear enough of this tbh. While hitting a flying creature while on a moving ship on the water 3 times in a row is crazy, the fact that Rhaegal is so fucked just from each of the scorpion bolts is crazy in and of itself. Meraxes was shot *in the eye* , *by the same type of scorpion bolt* , which is why she died. Fucking Drogon was hit in the wing in the previous season (presumably the dragons grew even bigger in the *months* that must have passed in that time), and we saw 0 blood, it got stuck in there and hurt a bit, but he was perfectly fine as soon as Dany (with all her almighty strength) pulled it out. Rhaegal's scales were made of glass I guess, just shattered on impact.
As for the Night King, I sort of just assumed it was like Valyrian Steel on a White Walker, except the other way around, when his spear hit Viserion. I thought they'd expand on it next season, but I guess fuck that now.
Mr McAwesome
We thought a lot of things, didn’t we?
I had a whole headcanon, about why the repeated phrase, ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ would matter, come the final season... but I guess I just ‘forgot’ about the fact that those mouth-breathing morons actively hated the mystical elements *of a fantasy series* when it wasn’t convenient for them, & got rid of as many as they could- as fast as they could.
The series could *still* have come back from the brink, if better people had been able to finish it, IMO.
However, it was most of the older dragons were the ones that were nigh-invulnerable. Drogon and the others are still young. It makes sense that they would still be weak.
@@introspectiver1787 Just for this argument itself I listed Drogon getting hit in the wing and being perfectly fine a season before, when he was even younger. You do have a point still.
Mr McAwesome yeah- if Drogon was for example badly wounded and maybe there was a scene of him struggling to fly/ having to be grounded to heal for a few days then I could’ve understand the scorpion taking down dragons so easily. But he just hovered and dramatically burnt the scorpion to a crisp right after the hit in the shoulder. In my opinion the scorpion should not have the same ‘damage effect’ than the night king’s spear. I mean the thing just tore right through Rhaegal.
Gendry running back to east watch in 3 hours is unbelievable lmao! He’s never been in snow, also has never been to the wall or north of the wall but manages to get back to east watch. Impossible by himself lmao he wouldn’t even know where to go c’mon hahaha 😅😂😁
That's because he was rowing the whole time he was gone.
I really hated the whole "go get a wight and bring it back to Cersei" plot. But most people defended it at the time because the show had built up so much good faith.
It happened in the books except Ser Alliser brought the reanimated wight hand from the wight that attacked Lord Commander Mormont to KL. They essentially made him wait a long time to see the King and by then the hand had disintegrated and no one believed him and laughed him out of court. One of the few times you are on Alliser's side lol
The amount of people defending the show when it was on the air was infuriating.
@@firstlast9846it was a great show until season 7/8
Yeah, this season made a snowball effect of plot holes, which reached season 8.
if were talking purely about plotholes mostly yeah... but the snowball started back in season 5
now that i think of it, it's exactly like the snowball effect of plot holes from star wars episode 8 which carried onto star wars episode 9.
It's you. I lost you for a few days, but you can't hide forever!
HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THIS ACCOUNT??
FINs_empire yeah.. I feel like people praise season 5 and 6 a lot but they were just paving the way for this nightmare of an ending
Worthless storylines for x minutes straight
I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to just post a couple of seasons from a TV show here :(
@@sonytekkno ok
*storylines who went nowhere for x minutes
Cersei's pregnancy, Arya going to King's Landing to kill Cersei, Lord of Light and Beric's entire storyline
That video would be far too long. Far too many wasted storylines in this show.
That line:
*you're the fastest*
We always used that line when sending the dumbest kid for water when we were on the playground 😂
Sansa testified to save littlefinger when he killed Lysa, and then basically admitted she lied, and house of Arryn and Tully were just: ok cool we still trust you
To be fair on that point, he admitted to it when he said he did it to protect her. He didn’t deny it. Don’t take a piss out of me, that’s how that scene was written.
@@That90sGirl310point being she still lied
I’d imagine house Arynn probably overlooked it cos it was Baelish.. they probably assumed she was either forced into lying or didn’t care cos nobody like Baelish.
characters d&d Kinda forgot about for x minutes
There was literally no reason to not attack kings landing in the beginning of season 7. Dany with drogon destroyed the golden company and Euron's fleet with almost no help. Why not use all the armies and dragons she had at that time?? Tyrion used the excuse that innocents would die but that makes no sense. Dany and the unsullied could have taken KL with basically no innocents dying. That's why seasons 7&8 are so frustrating to watch, D&D forced characters like Dany, Jon, Tyrion, Varys, LF etc to act like idiots and out of character so that GRRM's ending could be adapted into the show.
then aso proceeds to brun thousands of soldiers who are in the end also innocent men. No fucking reason not to siege King's Landing right away
omg thank you finally someone with brain
And if she had taken King's Landing right away she could mobilize the whole continent to go fight against the Night King.
And even it was not difficult for Daenerys to destroyed King's Landing it would be also much easier at that time because no golden company and no scorpions on walls and iron Fleet.
Yes... princess made slave becomes queen of a continent just to sail out and stale at her empty throne room for a year. Fuck off!
"oh the last 2 season made perfect sense, you are just complaining because it didnt have the happy ending you were expecting"
-Lame Argument of every GOT apologist
Somebody really hasn’t been paying attention
"The last 2 seasons are so bad because they are rushed, and didnt have any source material! Plot armor! *proceeds to copy and paste the poorly backed reasonings they hear online*"- every game of thrones bandwagon hater
@@13_faces not really a copy and paste opinion, just a lot of people that saw the same Train wreck and just share their opinion as a way of coping, i wish D&D had copied and pasted the last 4 seasons of GOT from competent writers.
@@13_facesdelusional, but okay
Gendry running halfway across the map like super freakin Mario is literally the most hilarious thing ever. Ironically it was the bet part of the season in my opinion, cause it literally made me laugh my ass off! I mean at this point, GoT was no longer an epic fantasy series, it was a comedy drama. So I think it accomplished it's goals pretty damn well right?
Shame of Thrones
Shame... *ding* *ding* shame
Shame on the sinners
more like game of unsatisfiable fan base
I agree with everything in this video except for Benjen...Benjen couldn't go south of the wall because of the spell/incantation, whatever you wanna call it, that stops the dead from going south of the Wall until the Night King destroys it.
Yeah, I caught that too.
Rest of the video was good though lol
Still tho, Benjen deserved better
Yet they managed to take a wight south so...
@@cerealkiller5599 Oh yeah, he deserved much better cause I really liked Benjen
@@tongtong4077 That's where things stop making sense, but i'm not surprised since that plot was written by Dumb & Dumber, apparently they forgot what Benjen said to Bran and Meera when he found them.
You didn't even mention how Euron hit the dragon like 2-3 times in a row, then in the same sequence like 10 bolts miss the other one Dany sits on, also in the last season like 50 bolts do not even get close to the dragon.
Not only that but Drogon is bigger than Rhaegal, therefore making the former the easier target and for some reason they ALL miss him ….
Maybe because he was weakened
@@two869 It doesn’t change the fact that when Rhaegal was killed they were further away from the Iron Fleet than when the latter targeted Drogon. Also as stated before Drogon is a larger target because he is bigger than both Rhaegal and Viserion and the fact that they managed to take down the smaller dragon from far away while missing the large one from a closer distance ….
@@VhamonDaGoat there’s a speed difference because his weakened and obviously he wasn’t on guard lol
@@two869 You still don‘t get my point:
Distance plays a huge part in this. Rhaegal was much further away, again, then Drogon when Dany charged at the Iron Fleet. Yes he was slower but he still did get hit by three Scorpions in a ROW, with perfect AIM!
You can‘t tell me that in a medieval-inspired age there is people with that good of aim to be able to shoot at a dragons neck from kilometers away and then missing the bigger dragon multiple times when he was closer because plot needed Drogon to survive.
I mean, tbh if you don‘t mind that I respect that because you have your opinion but I‘m personally very bothered by it
The comfort of just laying on your sofa and taking quality tv knowing there wont be any bad writing for an hour is something that made this show special. Great characters, dozens of plotlines, excellent dialogues, twists. It was so consistent and every epiaode felt like it was a part of a puzzle of making something big. From s5 to s7 parts of puzzle were becoming uncolorful and wrong. It wasnt good but they finished it and the big thing had to happen. All the time we spent building up the story should have culminated. And then, Season 8 happened.
You're describing sticking to the books initially and then when they ended their own ideas took over and turned the show into rings of power.
Characters saying "the king" For X hours straight
Geoffrey has entered the chat
Or "your grace".
...but every time it gets followed by the shot of Tyrion slapping Goffrey!
(id watch the shit out of that!)
*_oh no he's got airpods in he can't hear us_*
Good job pointing out that particular Wight conveniently not shattering like the rest 🤣🤣
The night king not killing drogon just sitting there is hilarious
Where was Gondor when they were messing up season 7?
Well, they come back to you now, at the turn of the tide.
your bloody dp made me think that something was wrong with my screen
In Gondor...
Their moral was completely crushed when they realized the show was fucked after Selmy died.
Where was Gondor when the strong dialogue structures fell?! Where was Gond..... No my lord Aragorn, game of thrones is alone
My biggest gripe with the Littlefinger arc is that at the beginning Sansa says she knows he isn't trustworthy but she needs him for his army (vale knights). At the end he still controls the Vale and Sansa hasn't done anything to change that because she's been too busy getting mad at Arya. Littlefinger's death in this case should have been a disaster for the Starks, splitting their forces the same way Robb's execution of Lord Karstark did. But no, there's no time, we have Star Wars to write.
Well to be fair, I doubt any lords of the Vale respected Littlefinger so they were probably content with seeing him dead.
@@brandonr45 Then why didn't she kill him right away. The show presents the situation as being one thing, but then at the end it just decides it's another. Either way there's something wrong here.
@@SoCalSon395 Because she was busy dealing with Arya. Sansa needed Baelish and the Vale to take out Bolton's army. As soon as they did, Baelish turned the sisters against each other.
I might be a bit late but I still don't understand why a white walker was just casually walking with a group of wights... It's like he was just going for a walk with his new recruits
he was on a business meeting with giant chain salesman
To be fair, benjen was supposed to be cold hands from the books. And in the books it has been said that he cannot pass the wall because of the spells weaved into the wall.
Finally someone recognises how bad was season 7 too.
I was so disappointed by season 7, that season 8 didn't even feel >that< bad, because my expectations were already much lower.
The gradient of quaility decline was bigger between season 6 and 7 than between season 7 and 8.
Thank you!
Before s8 started my thoughts weren't "I wonder whats's gonna happen" but rather "Ok, lets see what they wrote.."
Didn't have any expectations for s8, although I was eventually shocked at the level of ridiculousness it reached.
I don't even think S8 was that bad. It had a few bad parts, but most of its failings were due to how terrible Season 7 was in building things up.
@@StratOCE now i gotta say, i completely agree
It was bad in season 5
@@wisdommanari6701 no, it was only not as good as 1-4. But it was still good.
Season 8 made season 7 look like a masterpiece
So true. The quality just plunged, and it's not an exageration.
Strongly disagree. Season 7 was the worst by far IMO. Season 7 was when the show crash and burned. Season 8 was where they salvaged things a tiny bit but couldn't fix what was already broken.
@@StratOCE What did it salvage exactly?
@@StratOCE Nah, in s7 we for instance have Cersei still plotting, still playing the game. At this point Arya has not forgotten about her abilities and everyone except for Sansa has not had a 20% iQ drop.
3 bad guys in 6 episodes? Stupid at record speed.
@@Hirnlego999 yeah we just had supersonic dragons who can cross a distance in a time requiring you to fly 3 times the speed of sound, white walkers throwing spears at flying dragons when there's one on the ground with the main characters on it, Cersei not taking laughably easy chances to remove her competition, Dany riding personally with her dragons and officers up to the giant ballista things to have a chat, and more. Nah season 7 was totally fine, it definitely wasn't as stupid or stupider than season 8.
the funny thing abt " then bring the dead to cersei" is sir alliser does that in literally book 1
I remember watching that episode of them beyond the wall in complete disgust. My arms were crossed & I was shaking my head occasionally. However when Tormund got swarmed I screamed, and started to panic. After his plot armor saved him I got even more disgusted & returned to my original position.
The Flash bit got me 😂😂😂
"Varys knows what you had for breakfast three days ago; there are no surprises here".
I miss that show.
The scorpion killing the dragon was RIDICULOUS. Vermithor, caraxes & Vhagar are all at some point hit by arrows and scorpions. The only one to die from it was Meraxes- and that’s made VERY clear how fluke-y of a shot that was as it directly went through the eye. Their scales are “stronger than steel” it is written in fire & blood. But apparently D&D just forgot about that.
How many times have I watched these videos? Dunno, I forgot because they are hilarious.
When Jon tells Gendry to go back to Eastwatch and send a raven to Daenerys why didn’t they all go back with him? They already captured the wight, they got what they wanted, they literally just went beyond as if they were begging to get killed.
this. THIS COMMENT RIGHT HERE
Iris Solorzano I thought it was because the wights would chase the group but if one split off he could get help for the rest of the group
@@williamlewis2383 They are thousands of wights. I think they can send enough numbers of wight after Gendry. Also white walkers has death horses, wolves, dogs which catch a human easily.
Doesn’t matter. They shouldn’t have been there anyways for like a million reasons.
What made no sense was when Daenerys landed on the island and Snow kept fighting the walkers.
There was literally like 2-3 walkers around them and tons of time to jump on the dragon, but he kept pushing out for some reason.
When he fell in the water, I wanted him to die for his stupidity, but of course that doesn’t favor the plot.
To be fair, at 2:39-- Cersei didn't care that he acknowledged it but it was after they just did it that he asked if he was better than her brother. The fact that Jaime is her true love and she basically just did it with Euron since she felt lonely and betrayed but still had feelings for Jaime was the reason I think she got a little ticked. Either way, great videos man--I agreed with almost everything. After the 6th season the show started going downhill :-/
jaime being her true love??? she never loved anyone but herself and even then it was superficial LOL
Also, Littlefinger gave some peasant girl what appeared to be a coin and whispered something to her while making sure Arya saw it.
At the time, I thought it was a Braavosi coin and what he said was "Valar morghulis", suggesting that the dead Littlefinger was actually an imposer and the real one was alive. Littlefinger also mentioned in a previous season that his great-grandfather lived in Braavos, which tells us he might have connections there.
But alas, it summed up to nothing. The two-sisters-arguing-because-Littlefinger-made-them-to plotline was rushed and too short imo.
I always get pissed that Sansa isn't the one to kill littefinger. They legit never listened to ned when he said whoever passes the sentence should swing the sword
The Barry Allen part made me laugh so hard
"We kind of 'forgot' about the term known as logic."
I didn't even think about Arya using Littlefinger's face. That would have been INCREDIBLE in the final season.
5:22 My name is Barry Allen.....Laughed My Ass Off😂😂😂
We will never get tired of these. Make them until you are old and dying. I'm sure there's enough BS in the later seasons of GoT to keep you busy until you're 90 years old lmao.
Crazy glazing
@@two869On god fr fr no cap shi be bussin fr
And you know the silly point about the Night King having a Dragon? It did fucking nothing. Yes it made the wall fall but at this point it felt like nothing.
It didn’t kill anybody important in the battle of Winterfell. It didn’t fight another dragon. It was there for like three scenes. So why give the night king a dragon at all?
Love the GoT seasons being devoid of logic :D
Did you miss the two scenes in which Viserion fought the other dragons in the Long Night? You’d be right in saying the ice zombie dragon wasn’t used to the full potential, and that last scene with him was very poor, but you can’t say something didn’t happen when it happened. Twice
@@zoeyanonschild6891How did he miss the dragons fighting! Lol actually that episode was pretty dark and all over the place. I didnt know what was going on in the air. It was horrible. But it was clear jon was trying to kill the night king.
Zoey Anonschild possibly forgot or didn’t see. I still feel like it had no impact.
Of course you are right on the fact that it did do something. It destroyed parts of Winterfell as well but in terms of undead dragon controlled by the night king it did basically nothing. Like half the characters if not more should have died because of that thing.
Or Dany and Jon should have taken it out. They had two dragons after all.
After all disappointing and if Viserion had lived nothing much would have changed.
What do you mean? The ice dragon clearly has a purpose: be screamed at by Jon!
@@shuyuwang6122 lol
season 8 was just about the friends we made along the way.
Gendry running back to Eastwatch to send a Raven to Daenerys at Dragonstone so she can fly back out and rescue them in short order was really convoluted. My headcanon is that she was already well on her way before Gendry even started running. Why? Because Westeros is really big and the showrunners lost all sense of scale. Also, Gendry must the best runner ever because scale. Arya should have accepted his proposal, he's going places, literally.
Nobody knew Benjen was alive. How could their plan be to get into contact with someone who literally everyone thought was dead at the time?
I think Bran knew because Benjen saved him and Meera Reed at some point ; or am i mistaken ?
Kim GS they weren’t a part of the planning phase though. John’s surprise at his uncle being alive confirmed none of them were told by Bran at the very least.
@@AesirUnlimited true that
He also can't pass the wall
@@AesirUnlimited so bran could have told sansa or Jon at the least when he arrived especially since he knows how dangerous the walkers are
I was watching the season 8 logic right now, and then you come with this? Love this channel 🤣❤️🔥
I love the logic and the editing! Well done!
I assumed that the reason why one wight survived when the walker died is actually a hint of strategy from the ice king; leave one wight not tied to the walker there so if the walker does die, he can call for help.
Someone here pointed out GoT came out in April, and I think we might see this as the biggest and most extended April Fools of all time.
Do Star Wars 7-8-9 but it's devoid of logic please
just watch the movies, there are already make no sense xD
he can't upload entire movies on youtube
@@sonoftheway3528 fair enough :D
Dude, you can do the same with the original trilogy also..,if anything, prequel trilogy flowed the best
Great video, Paddy! Vietnam is definitely on the Bucket List after watching this!
Benjen tells Bran he can't go south of the wall because the wall has ancient magic preventing the dead from crossing.
Jon and everyone else don't know about this, so by sheer lucky coincidence maybe they decided to fly it over the wall on Drogon?
But then surely the Night's Watch could have like lowered a rope or something for Benjen to go over it instead of through it.
Everything they didn't do with Benjen pisses me off honestly xD
They could have kept baelish till season 8 as he could create some chaos among dany, varys,tyrion, jon, sansa ultimately leading political instability and leads to Daenerys madness and then could killed him in some other way,,
Stannis being the mannis for x minutes straight (one day it will happen)
All in good time my friend.
Benjen tells Bran when he is out past the wall, that he cannot pass through the wall since it has magic carved into it, which also would make the wight they captured another plot hole.
tHe WiGhT pAsSeD tHrOuGh WiThOuT cOnSeNt ThAtS wHy It WoRkEd
This popped up on my suggested and I can't thank CZcams enough! New subscriber here!
I thought it was kinda clear why Cersei got mad at Euron for mentioning Jaime at 2:46. She’s still pissed that Jaime abandoned her, so him talking about him was probably salt in the wound
Also “Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe”
Proceeds to not kill any of the Frey women
the "being devoid of logic" videos are the best, by far!
Jeez the way you eviscerate GOT in these videos is my everything rn. God I love it XDDDD
4:44 Lmao I never even noticed Drogon sitting there in the foreground. Like seriously, why wouldn't he take the easy shot?
It really is Christmas.
I love these videos! Thanks for making them :D
Maybe you could make some about how good the first seasons were (since I think they were going directly off the books)
Don't forget that the wall was said to have rune carved into its foundation so no wights can go through it, yet they tried so hard to bring a wight back for Cercei and somehow succeeded without the wight falling apart the moment it reached the wall? Also, Danny must've felt bad for the wight not being able to cross that wall due to the magic seal, so she brought them a dragon so they can destroy the wall.
The part about little finger confuses me because they kill him off at the end but before that he gives a complete stranger a coin signifying something, like maybe using it to bribe a faceless man to swap places with him for his death, but later nothing happens with it and they kill him off anyways lol There were so many theories for little finger but running around, but the end result was such shite compared to the theories. It's like D&D realized people were predicting future episodes so they threw a curveball, and that curveball was Season 7 and 8 XD
How’d the bring the zombie past the wall anyways. Thought the magic kept them out. Cause Benjen said since he was part the magic blocked him and that’s why he didn’t return
Magic of the wall is quite inconsistant in the show and is still a mistery in the books. The off puting part about it all is that back in season 1/book one both pregnant direwolf and wights got past the wall... what you could argue however is that wights got past the wall as corpses and then they were reanimated.
Similar thing happens in book 5/season 5 where Wan Wan is able to get past the wall. However, in Fire and Blood it is stated that as queen Alysanne was trying to fly over the wall on Silverwing her dragon refused her for the first and only time in her life and she completely lost controll of her. So either she sensed white walkers and was too scared to fly over or the magic actually prevented her fron flying past it. It is also heavilly hinted at that whights and white walkers cannot get past the wall.
So in conclusion I think the way the wall works is that it lets through basically every creature from age of the first man like humans, giants, direwolfs children of the forest etc but nothing else.
The show however stayed true to this only around season 5 and they kinda forgot... Danny being able to get all of her dragons past the wall even though its most likely against Martins lore, John being able to sneak wight past of the wall and not to mention getting past the wall himself since hes technically a wight too. And then there is that infamous NK burning down the wall even though given all the magic it shouldnt have been that easy to destroy.
FINs_empire so how’d you look pst everything. Just it is what it is I guess is the best approach. I didn’t really let that stuff bother me much honestly. Lookin back there was a lot of stuff pointing to how bad D&D truly are I just didn’t care. The final season felt like a slap in the face to me. F subverting expectations. How about you just stick with the story that’s going. Now soooo many things don’t mean jack when you rewatch the series. Which I haven’t done and I used to rewatch a couple times a year
@@FIN791998 Yeah, the wights being brought back to Castle Black does kind of contradict the whole "wall is magic" thing but the direwolves aren't dead or wights so I see no problem with them being able to get past the wall because of the magic. (That still leaves the question of how the direwolf actually managed to cross it, but that's neither here nor there.)
@@every116 No its not just dead things. Dragons wont cross the wall either and it is very likely that they, wights nor wight walkers arent the only creatures that cant get past the wall
@@FIN791998 You're making two giant assumptions in your analysis:
1) That dragons cannot cross the wall, which you base on just one dragon being unwilling to fly over the wall. There are a lot of problems with this, the least of which is that you don't know exactly why that dragon didn't want to fly over the wall. But what if a dragonrider takes off from Braavos, flies north past the wall, and turns west and tries to then fly over land that's north of the wall? Does the magic still repel the dragon or does the dragon make it to land?
2) That the wall works by only letting certain kinds of creatures through instead of just keeping a certain kind of creature out. The people who built the wall didn't care about giants, they didn't care about direwolves, they didn't care about dragons. They cared about White Walkers and wights, so why would they create a magical wall that ONLY lets humans, children, and wolves through and nothing else, and not simply create a wall that repels White walkers and their minions? Now, they COULD have made it so the wall only lets certain things through, but we don't know that, all we know is that it doesn't let White Walkers through, and to assume it also doesn't let anything else through is an unfounded assumption.
Another GOT devoid of logic?! Merry Christmas!
5:37 it annoys me so much that The Hound out of all people throws the rock. One of the most no-nonsense character in the show behaving like a boring kid at the supermarket.
That whole capture a wight episode was so stupid I thought I was watching a parody. I literally laughed out loud at Benjen claiming he had no time to get on the horse. Thank you for pointing out all the plot holes/ridiculousness
5:20 I have always dreamed of one day seeing a "My name is Barry Allen" intro audio being edited into some video and now I can die happy XD
I first sensed problems ahead with Game of Thrones when Tywin was murdered and they suddenly forgot Tysha existed (in their continuity). We then got the shameful way they ended Stannis, and oh Dorne (I'm gonna vomit). Series 8 was inevitable people!
Glad you're covering series 7 now!
I love these videos. I come back to these kinds of content to dissuade myself from watching HOTD.
4:37 hahah thank you. Even tho i suffer from heavy depressions right now it made me LOL.
I love how you point out D&D's BS very much.