Taking the Gas Gas Contact ES 250 Trials Bike up Satan's Crack!
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On today’s video, we are taking the trials bikes up a trail called "Satan’s Crack". Both Tyler and I are riding 2017 GasGas Contact ES 250 trials bikes. I copied Tyler earlier this year and got the same beginners trials bike. This was shot on May 4th of 2017. It was the same day and the same bike that I tore my ACL and MCL, requiring surgery. That sucked, but the riding you are about to see did not suck.
It’s true that Tyler and I are beginning trials riders and we are not very good at the “trials” aspect of this. Some things are easier to do on a trials bike, while others are easier to do on a dirt bike. One thing we noticed is that we use forward momentum on our enduro dirt bikes to “mask” our deficiencies. With the trials bikes, you slow things down and use actual technique, which is in short supply sometimes for me! Tyler has been practicing all summer/fall and he’s much better than I am at this point (he always was far better than me anyway). I can’t wait to get back to practicing very soon.
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This makes you appreciate the skills of the accomplished trials riders. They make it look effortless but it takes years of practice. I can only imagine that skill.
First, drop the pressure in your tires. 5.5psi max in the rear. Then, run those tires off the bike as fast as you can justify replacing them. The OEM tires on the Contact are less than junk. Replace with Dunlop 803GP, or Michelin Trials tire if the budget allows. Someone before me mentioned the videos from Ryan Young - very good recommendation. As you learn proper weight/deweight technique, as well as the other techniques, you will find those little climbs (at the start of the vid) to be great fun, and very little work.
Anyway, great video. Hope to see more of you on the trials machines!
Kyle, trials bike are all about technique and control inputs not about momentum. Notice in pro trials they rarely have a run up but they use clutch and throttle to provide a pop that gets you up and over.
they seem to generate a fair amount of momentum when they launch up big obstacles but they always seem to do it starting from almost a dead standstill.
Store momentum on flywheel and release it with clutch when needed.
They do use the clutch to store up power and then release it while using various technicques to get the run up/jump they need. Kyle seems to ride them more like dirtbikes which is ok but the point of trials is mastering technique and using the body and bike more than brute force.
Trial bike is about equilibrium not speed not fast, you just need to learn an practice step by step, a trail like the one you have it should be done mostly on 3 to 4 gear, I learned trial in Italy at 14 years old, today I ride big adventure bike but the technic I learned still today help me to do things with my heavy bike that no other in my group is capable.
I love your bikes to bad is not available in Canada, cheers!
I recommend you guys look up some Ryan Young videos. He'll show you how you can get that first big climb without any run up or momentum.
Nice vídeo ! Nothing beats trial bikes in price / risk / enjoyement ratio. And it clearly masters your riding skills what ever The bike you ride afterwards. Love ti soooo much ! Cheers from Spain
Next time you stuck on loose stuff with the bike, push down on the pegs and blip the throttle, you'll find there will be much less panting on your end and less scratches on the bike
Add a trials tire to your dirt bike and do this same loop, lots of our guys riding Rocky nasty Missouri/Arkansas rocks use them and it’s amazing what you can climb!
I got the same bike used a month or so ago..I love it. Its crazy how they go right up stuff.
Trials bikes have a shorter wheelbase than an enduro bike.....combined with the higher horsepower to weight ratio, they are pretty easy to loop out if you aren’t careful.
Nice video, the trials bike will help improve the enduro skill so much
Nice! First mastering going slow..to go fast💨 👍🏻
Wish my gas gas 300 txt pro racer had electric start
Kyle, set the carb so the bike won’t idle , it will make downhills so much easier and chop the throttle just before the top when climbing a steep spot like the one you were having trouble with. Just a couple of hints from an old trials rider. Thanks for the video and have fun !
Really? Set set the carb so that I won't idle on its own?
Dirt Bike Channel yes, set it so the only way it will run is if you give it a little throttle. Try it you will like it , especially on steep down hills and tricky sections where you need to drop the front end and then raise it quickly. 😉
I disagree, I have been riding trials as my primary dirt bike for over 6 years and would not recommend this. A low but steady idle with properly jetted carb is my recommendation.
Jonathon Carey , “ different strokes for different folks “ ! Use what ever works for you, but next time you are at a national event pay close attention to the riders on the two strokes when they get to a new section and park their bikes.
Never seen Pat’s bike being set like that and he is the raining national champ... unless I missed something...
You guys need a trials boot. Hard mx boots avoid you having good body english
LeoCascao hey do you know what the price range for these things are
Where is this place? Congratulations on the video, always great!
Where did you guys get the seats?
Long rides on the trials bike are so exhausting when you have to stand the entire time.
The 2017 Gas Gas Contact comes with the seat.
I remember seeing an after market set that fit the Gas Gas before the contact but not sure if they are still available or not.
That trials bike looks fun!
Would be great to see a collaboration with Barry from the Cross Training Enduro channel. Think youd pick up a lot of technique from what he does (i know i have)
I've watched a few trials videos. It looks like they rev the snot out of them before hitting the hill. I take it their breathing is better at the bottom.
Are you ever going to test the GasGas EC300?
Any plans to do some trials practice vids? I'd love to see what a decent dirt rider like yourself looks like when new to true trials.
Nice video. Please keep mixing in some trials. I think it really improves your skills on the big bike.
What is your tire pressure?
When we ride our trials on the trail we find we can run much lower tire pressure then on our enduro bikes. 6-7 lbs in front and 5 or even less if it’s muddy for the rear.
3 at rear with no problem
True, I run 3.5 to 4 rear and around 5 to 6 front unless it’s super sharp rocks and then I still only need to add between 1 to 1.5 lbs to both tires max on a trail ride on my trials bike. Never had a flat other than a puncture weed in the sidewall once.
Just mentioned because in the scenes where you can see the tire weighted they look very firm.
Correction psi not lbs
Yes, psi... thanks.
Curious if your happy with the Contact purchase.. Or do you wish you choose another trials bike??
Nice vid
those bikes don't seem to have a power band and those front forks look way soft
Are you back on 2 wheels or is this old video before injury?
Hi Kyle, give is a review of this trial and why you felt you need one and do you think it help you. My comment is that you seem to overtake obstacles easier when you are on a fill size bike, so why this trial's bike now?
Hey Kyle. I have the same problem with my Sony POV/mic setup. Sounds great when riding and running comentary but when I stop, heavy panting spoils it. Let me know what you come up with. I'm wondering if a wind sock or something like it would help?
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First comment!
Are you ever going to test the GasGas EC300?
Man i love your videos so much, im 15 i ride my dads ktm but i want my own bike ride safe
Later on in the vid I may or may not have seen it properly but it looks like his handle bars are skew, anyone else?
Are you getting the GoPro 7?
No
You should learn all your techniques in a lower gear.
And when you know you cant make it over the obstacle back off the throttle and look for somewhere to jump off and land safely.
I was cringing the entire time expecting the knee to go out any minute... please don't show us!
Clearly nune of you guys are trials riders but good video
Pretty sure we even say this in the video :)
This was the first real ride on these bikes for both of us. Ya gotta start somewhere!
@@tythuey its true everyone has to start somewhere good video keep it up
Derrick, clearly, you need to start paying attention in school.