Getting my new CNC DIALED! // Vacuum Table Workholding & T-Track Fixture Table

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  • Learn how to add a DIY vacuum workholding table and a t-track fixture table to an Avid 4x8 CNC router! These two spoilboard options give me tons of flexibility for clamping material to my CNC and should make clamping and cutting parts on the CNC a breeze.
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Komentáře • 235

  • @TrailFeatures
    @TrailFeatures Před 3 lety +33

    It's always funny how machines like this turn into projects. The first two months of owning a 3D printer I spent printing more parts for the 3D printer. XD

  • @mattbowers5342
    @mattbowers5342 Před 3 lety +3

    I sooo want to add one of these to my shop! Thanks for letting us enjoy yours.

  • @IceGene
    @IceGene Před 3 lety +2

    7:52 that slide was sooooo satisfying.

  • @AquaFreak
    @AquaFreak Před 8 měsíci +1

    TIP! close the edges of the MDF with white wood glue. that way your spoilboard is going to have 40% more suction power.

  • @stu-po
    @stu-po Před 3 lety +7

    I really enjoyed seeing this go together and the mystery of the vacuum pump through the mdf!

  • @jimmyz1686
    @jimmyz1686 Před 3 lety

    I think you just sold me on getting an avid cnc. The vacuum hold down is a game changer.

  • @tmasopust
    @tmasopust Před 3 lety +8

    It's amazing the everyone with a CNC seems to go through the same evolutionary process of trying to come up with the perfect clamping/spoil board solution. We are on iteration 4 or 5 at this point having initially tried the same things you are doing :)

  • @johnross9369
    @johnross9369 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic build Johnny. That machine is a beast.

  • @akquicksilver
    @akquicksilver Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome set up brother! Time to see some killer CNC projects.

  • @matsler89
    @matsler89 Před 3 lety +4

    You can put some t nuts into your melamine vacuum zone piece and then create a file for your CNC to cut out recessed mounting holes that match the t nuts. This allows for repeatable mounting for your spoil board and it saves your melamine piece from multiple screw holes in it over time.

  • @A2ZGeek
    @A2ZGeek Před 3 lety

    Glad you got a CNC, I love my AvidCNC.

  • @shakejones
    @shakejones Před 2 lety +1

    great video + presentation + explanation! well done mate! thanks for sharing!

  • @mavigogun
    @mavigogun Před 5 měsíci

    "Rockler", "Rockler", "Rockler"- relentless product placement.

  • @boko3155
    @boko3155 Před 3 lety +1

    First of all. F%$K YES. first video I have seen that is quick - doesn't bull%&T and focuses on sharing knowledge - secondly thank you! I hope we can someday make vids that share like this too - we've modded our avid and really happy with the result. Need to make a video too!

  • @jeffcalvert6502
    @jeffcalvert6502 Před 3 lety +3

    Use nylon screws to hold down the spoil board. Never ruin a bit by hitting a screw. When you have to change the spoil board (and you will) they can just be cut out.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 3 lety

    Pretty interesting process, dude! Great work! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @hawkeire2414
    @hawkeire2414 Před 3 lety

    Daaaaaammmmn Son... Nice setup... The possibilities with the CNC are endless..

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 3 lety

      Yes they are! Can't wait to really get some use out of it once it comes time to build all of the cabinetry for the house I'm building at the moment.

  • @Dragonrockstar88
    @Dragonrockstar88 Před 3 lety

    One thing we do at our shop to help suction through the MDF is seal the sides with some spray paint.

  • @Stevethatiam
    @Stevethatiam Před 2 lety

    Great job on the vacuum setup! This video helped me a bunch! Would you mind sharing your feed and speeds that you used for the vacuum table?

  • @lomoDaniel
    @lomoDaniel Před 3 lety

    Buying a couple tables, soon. Thanks for providing useful information. Any regrets or things you'd configure differently, now that you've used it for a while? I'll be running both router and plasma. Starting a new shop in Westchester, NY.

  • @RonMarshallrone
    @RonMarshallrone Před 3 lety

    Thats incredible. Nice job.

  • @jake196.21
    @jake196.21 Před 3 lety +4

    How loud is the vacuum. I know you'll have dust collection/CNC running at the same time, I was just curious on its own as well as with everything running altogether.

  • @dairybarnwoodworking215
    @dairybarnwoodworking215 Před 3 lety +33

    It sucks through the MDF? 🤯. That’s sick!

    • @djrobstarrcom
      @djrobstarrcom Před 3 lety +6

      wouldn´t believe it if someone tell me that this is working

    • @michaelporter9940
      @michaelporter9940 Před 3 lety +4

      "Brady Vac". Been using it for years. It IS sick!

    • @PjotrStroganov
      @PjotrStroganov Před 3 lety +1

      Been working with a Homag Vantage 12L for a few years now and it uses the same principle. Low quality mdf is best to use as it lets through more air. Nice about this industrial machine is the work area. About 3600x1700mm.;)

    • @markharro8900
      @markharro8900 Před 2 lety

      Is this simply relying on the porosity of the MDF? I was wondering the same question.

  • @jimhinkle7245
    @jimhinkle7245 Před 3 lety +1

    Just found this. DANG BUBBA!!!! Very Very nice setup!!!!

  • @JDDupuy
    @JDDupuy Před 3 lety

    Okay now I'm thinking about this model over the Axiom.

  • @weberwoodshop
    @weberwoodshop Před 3 lety +1

    Damn that’s cool. Congrats on an awesome setup!

  • @makethepart
    @makethepart Před 3 lety

    Fantastic Video! Thanks for sharing

  • @alexcampbell492
    @alexcampbell492 Před 3 lety +2

    I have a large CNC router with a vacuum system. I didn’t see if you used gasketing in the plenum. It makes a big difference. I split my spoilboard so I can slide the front section onto the back and then use gaskets right on the plenum for huge holding power when doing surface work or engraving.

    • @roeschdan
      @roeschdan Před 3 lety +1

      Do you have a diagram that can explain this more. I don't quite understand

  • @ZediZero
    @ZediZero Před 3 lety

    Oh man what a machine ! :D I want it soooo bad !
    I got an x-carve. But its... limited i should say.
    Good work man !

  • @daviddavis1322
    @daviddavis1322 Před 3 lety +1

    Bind the edges of the mdf spoil board, too. It'll really help focus the vacuum to a quadrant

    • @bcer960interurban
      @bcer960interurban Před 3 lety

      it's faster and easier to put 2 coats of shellac on the edges of the MDF

  • @Jeff_369
    @Jeff_369 Před 3 lety

    Very cool and thanks for the video!!!

  • @TOP-SOUND-CHANNEL
    @TOP-SOUND-CHANNEL Před 3 lety

    Hi. Any idea of the minimum negative vacuum pressure, needed for a simular vac-system?

  • @shawnzavoda2050
    @shawnzavoda2050 Před 3 lety

    Can you put t-track directly into the flow through MDF piece if you sealed the track groove? I realize the area where the track is would not have suction, but any other issues doing that?

  • @nolancraw
    @nolancraw Před 3 lety +1

    For the drawer slide issue, couldn't you have routed out some material off each side of the drawer on the router table? or was it too much material?

  • @derekjarman1638
    @derekjarman1638 Před 3 lety

    Cool setup!

  • @TxStang
    @TxStang Před 3 lety

    Nice setup !

  • @gregweber802
    @gregweber802 Před 3 lety

    awesome video... informative and well done.

  • @toddm9957
    @toddm9957 Před 3 lety

    I would like to know what size spindle are you using I have the same cnc table from cnc router parts.

  • @elanman608
    @elanman608 Před 3 lety +2

    to improve holding just lay clingfilm over the part and surrounding area.

  • @sallybryan3754
    @sallybryan3754 Před 3 lety

    Great project

  • @ronhampe
    @ronhampe Před 3 lety +1

    Curious did you glue all of the pvc fittings for the Hurricane?

  • @peterkroeker753
    @peterkroeker753 Před 3 lety

    I will own one of these when my shop is built I promise

  • @iraydiaz5888
    @iraydiaz5888 Před 3 lety

    Do you have a video or a site with what software you use for your CNC Workflow? CAD > CAM > Machining [I saw mach4 or mach3] [Does Aspire function as a CAD and CAM?]

  • @sebastiangerstein637
    @sebastiangerstein637 Před 3 lety

    love your videos man

  • @RageGuitars
    @RageGuitars Před 3 lety +4

    For a tad better vacuum, seal the side of your spoil board with the fast edge. There is a little bit if leakage thru the edge. Great video

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 3 lety +1

      Good tip, thanks!

    • @joshm4519
      @joshm4519 Před 3 lety

      @@craftedworkshop wood glue works too.

    • @nathwald
      @nathwald Před 3 lety +1

      Also add a gasket between your vacuum grid and your spoilboard

    • @r2db
      @r2db Před 4 měsíci

      @@nathwald That was what I had thought the square pattern was going to be used for. It is pretty much standard with metalworking machine vacuum fixture plates.

  • @davidthompson9359
    @davidthompson9359 Před 3 lety

    For small or garage CNC setups would a Hurricane vacuum system cost too much in electricity to be worth the install?

  • @l.rod2827
    @l.rod2827 Před 2 lety

    Dude, Thats badass...

  • @tuscanland
    @tuscanland Před 2 lety

    May I ask if you have the 4HP or the 8HP spindle mounted to the router?

  • @davidurdahl6656
    @davidurdahl6656 Před 3 lety +7

    When Jonny calls it bitsbits so many times, the company eventually just drops the & from their name. lol

  • @Utaheyelid
    @Utaheyelid Před 3 lety +1

    I have the same 4x8 router and vacuum system. I think you're gonna find you don't want all those screws and inserts in your spoilboard. If you are using this table as often I would expect, you'll quickly tear up your spoilboard and lose vacuum power. You'll want to resurface it fairly regularly and all those screws will just become a pain in the butt. Just glue the lightweight MDF to the plenum board and when you want the t-track board, attach it with wood screws in the corners. I go 98% through my spoilboard and then just glue another one on top. Works great.

    • @ricardoramirez3084
      @ricardoramirez3084 Před 3 lety

      I was wondering if both of you plumbed with schedule 20 or 40?

    • @nitrousair
      @nitrousair Před 2 lety

      does the glue hinder the suction from the vacuum when you glue the spoilboard to the plenum?

    • @Utaheyelid
      @Utaheyelid Před 2 lety

      @@nitrousair No. Just glue completely around the edges and then in small spots scattered around the board. The air will pull right around it. Be sure and take a millimeter off the bottom side of the MDF that will attach to the plenum, then flip it, glue it and surface the other side completely.

  • @Bale747
    @Bale747 Před 3 lety

    Curious, what did the full setup set you back ? CNC DC VAC ? Cheers

  • @yaobuckman5006
    @yaobuckman5006 Před 3 lety

    beast of CNC??

  • @johncarr123
    @johncarr123 Před 2 lety

    Do you have the Cut2d files or CAD files for the board for download? What are the size of the squares and spacing between the squares?

  • @beanxlj
    @beanxlj Před 3 lety

    What software did you use for the cabinet? Thanks

  • @PSModernKitchens
    @PSModernKitchens Před 2 lety

    this was great!

  • @simonkinnbjrny6550
    @simonkinnbjrny6550 Před 3 lety

    I love it!

  • @scottschneider4596
    @scottschneider4596 Před 3 lety

    Seems like that dust collector isn’t powerful enough? Have you seen the double sided dust boot?

  • @mattthrogmorton
    @mattthrogmorton Před 2 lety

    Is there any way you would share your finished file for the routing on the plenum?

  • @drich6816
    @drich6816 Před rokem

    Hello, I'm getting ready to order a Avid machine. How do you like it? Do you feel the leg kit is stable enough? Thanks

  • @luwk
    @luwk Před 3 lety

    Why don't you use the powermatic cyclone dust extractor on the cnc machine

  • @jamshidkhasanbayev1587

    Bro, I have a question, which type of Stepper motor did you use for X and Y? Nema 34? I am also planning to make my own CNC. The size of the CNC will be aproximately the same with your CNC's. can I use Nema 23 (the strongest one with 112 length and 3 N.m). can this stepper motor handle it? please give your suggestion, thanks!

  • @dennisvancoolwijk6147
    @dennisvancoolwijk6147 Před měsícem

    Do you not have to use rubber in your grid under your spoilboard?

  • @murali1068
    @murali1068 Před 2 lety

    Very cool.. what is the total approximate cost to setup like this?

  • @jasonathr
    @jasonathr Před 10 měsíci

    Could you tell me what software you use to design the cabinets?

  • @erik_natzke
    @erik_natzke Před 3 lety

    Q: Did you make or buy that Dust Shoe? Looks solid! Polycorbonate perhaps. Mine has a bit of give (made out of HDPE from the Avid Instructions). It works, but I like the appearance of yours... thus the query. Thanks for taking the time to reply (AND make these videos. MUCH APPRECIATED & Learned)

  • @allaboutthecorvettes
    @allaboutthecorvettes Před 3 lety

    Hey Johnny! What type of headphones have you been using in your videos?

  • @noahcharbo5949
    @noahcharbo5949 Před 3 lety

    Love the videos

  • @danielglr
    @danielglr Před rokem

    Can you tell me wich vacuum did you use ??

  • @scottbuehler7511
    @scottbuehler7511 Před 3 lety

    I love your videos, I am awaiting my Avid 4*9 cnc with ATC in about 4 weeks and want to do the vacuum table like you just did! Is there a reason you didn't just glue the MDF onto the plenum instead of screws? Just easier to replace when needed? Thanks for the videos

    • @roeschdan
      @roeschdan Před 3 lety

      What atc spindle and system did you go with?

    • @scottbuehler7511
      @scottbuehler7511 Před 3 lety

      @@roeschdan I went with CNC Depot's S30. I should finally have it all up and running by end of the week

  • @jacobguilbert5312
    @jacobguilbert5312 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video! I’m currently planning out my Cnc purchase. Are you running off of 3 phase or single phase? And if single phase, does the drop ~2hp drop in power still machine like a boss? I.e single pass cuts on 3/4” plywood with decent feed rates? Thanks!

    • @GothicCucumber
      @GothicCucumber Před 2 lety

      Single pass cuts on 3/4 ply would be rough on any hobbyist/consumer grade CNC. I normally make 2 or 3 passes. Also helps make sure you have time to stop the machine if it looses a step and eats into a good part

  • @jorgevillalpando4269
    @jorgevillalpando4269 Před 3 lety

    How much will this machine run full assembly.

  • @fredericgiraud5663
    @fredericgiraud5663 Před 3 lety

    salut quel est la puissante de ta pompe a vide ? je voudrai faire une table a vide aussi ma table fais 1.5mx1.4m merci

  • @gerrysantora1706
    @gerrysantora1706 Před 2 lety

    Are you drilling your holes with the router bit, or changing out the router bit for a drill bit, and then running a separate drill program?

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 2 lety +1

      For the t-track table, I just used a standard router bit.

  • @TheUserid82
    @TheUserid82 Před 3 lety

    is it strong enough to double as a vacuum former? Would just need a heat box to mount above the table then to heat the plastic.

    • @joshm4519
      @joshm4519 Před 3 lety

      I did this with mine, I vacuum formed plastazote foam. I'm using two dust extractors for vacuum.

  • @stingrayguy8294
    @stingrayguy8294 Před rokem

    what was the cost of the hurricane vacuum ?

  • @PSModernKitchens
    @PSModernKitchens Před 2 lety

    Q: what was you reasons to pick this brand CNC over the others? Thank you...

  • @christiansnyder2633
    @christiansnyder2633 Před 3 měsíci

    Hey man do you have the file for the plenum board with the grid!

  • @godin8262
    @godin8262 Před 2 lety

    Something I don't get it. You made on a melamine board plenty of groove for the air of the vacuum to pass after that you had a Prestwood board over that vacuum board and I saw you plane that board on both side after that you put and small board over that Prestwood and put the vacuum ON, the vacuum pump vacuum that board down across that Prestwood. If there is a Prestwood over the groove how the air pass for vacuuming down that small board? I never saw you drill hold on that Prestwood. At 6:30 on the video. Sorry, I missing something here. By the way that very nice work.

  • @jacobpayne2680
    @jacobpayne2680 Před 3 lety

    Could you do a dean ml style guitar build sometime?

  • @duncangiel9564
    @duncangiel9564 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome! You mentioned you selected the Blum under mount slides in the software. Which cabinet software are you using? Or is that part of Aspire?

    • @maximazur4854
      @maximazur4854 Před 3 lety

      You can download Dynaplan that is a Blum software for building cabinets

    • @johnramminger
      @johnramminger Před 3 lety

      Looks like he is using mozaik. Awesome software

  • @reforzar
    @reforzar Před 3 lety

    How do you predrill holes with a router? 🤯

  • @dvn711
    @dvn711 Před 3 lety

    Which cabinet design software were you using that allowed you to choose the drawer slides? And would you be willing to do a small video about it?

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 3 lety +1

      I’ll be going into it in my next video! I used Mozaik.

  • @paulbergman8228
    @paulbergman8228 Před 2 lety

    Where do you get the canister filter? It is not on the supply list provided. 🙂

  • @shwoard386
    @shwoard386 Před 2 lety

    how much did this entire setup cost? Avids website only has a price for the mechanical portion, everything else is broken out be separate parts

  • @sethbrettell5952
    @sethbrettell5952 Před 3 lety +1

    great to see woodworkers trusting computer aided machines

  • @aripratama333
    @aripratama333 Před 3 lety

    How big is that vacuum pump you use?

  • @miguelarevalo4986
    @miguelarevalo4986 Před rokem

    What's the software you use?..cheers

  • @Kcustom216
    @Kcustom216 Před 2 lety

    How much did that machine set you back?

  • @lenshelton2810
    @lenshelton2810 Před rokem

    What cabinet CAD software is that?

  • @squidskunk
    @squidskunk Před 3 lety

    im waiting on final delivery of my 60"x60" pro from avid.

  • @taklah
    @taklah Před 2 lety

    We are installing our Hurricane right now as I am writing this and I noticed that your filter can is connected backwards. Blue sticker on the side of the can says (from CNC). Did that cause any problems so far?

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, good looking out! Hasn't caused issues but I'll definitely fix that before using it again.

  • @jasonflt
    @jasonflt Před 3 lety

    i so want one !!!!!!!!

  • @MrFreeway99
    @MrFreeway99 Před 3 lety

    Would you mine sharing your post for mozaik? Its taking a long time to get mine.

  • @claudeloomes7985
    @claudeloomes7985 Před 3 lety

    what CNC software do you use?

  • @intelligenceservices
    @intelligenceservices Před 3 lety

    need to see inside the vacuum pump please.

  • @cityguyusa
    @cityguyusa Před 3 lety

    That's some impressive suction but I would think that type usage would be hard on the vacuum sucking against MDF which isn't solid but it's adhesive or wood particulate it's not exactly hollow.
    Is there a way to run a test on your programming until you get more experience so you don't destroy expensive wood?

  • @criticalbill
    @criticalbill Před 2 lety

    Can you link to the auto z mounting bracket 3d print code please :-)

  • @robllewellyn
    @robllewellyn Před 2 lety

    Immense work...

  • @morrow275
    @morrow275 Před 3 lety +1

    Where do I find the glue you use to glue in the T-track?

    • @pistolpete9978
      @pistolpete9978 Před 3 lety

      I think he said, "CA Glue," which is cyanoacrilate, or "Super Glue." For even faster setting, use CA on one side, and CA accelerator on the other.

  • @unclebob8746
    @unclebob8746 Před 3 lety

    You mentioned Legacy Woodworking for one of the designs (can't remember if it was the vacuum table or the t-track table) but both of these designs are from Legacy. You may have modified the hole pattern to fit your machine, but the designs are Legacy's.
    Also, as commented below, the fine dust from milling MDF acts more like a gas than dust and will stay in the air for hours. Check out Shop Hacks for an air filtration system. I built one and it works great to clear the air of really fine dust particles, as well as circulating the heat and air conditioning.
    I have a Legacy Maverick 3x5 with ATC. More money, but much beefier machine than the Avid.

    • @craftedworkshop
      @craftedworkshop  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I mentioned that the design was based on Legacy's and would have linked to their video but it appears they removed it from their channel for some reason. I'll check out that filtration system!