I weighed my titanium bike Lynskey R500 Part 3
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2022
- Hi,
in this video I went over all of the specs on my Lynskey R500 as well as the size of the bike.
For reference, I'm 5.4 barefoot with ~28.5 inseam. The bike fits me well.
In terms of sizing, I highly recommend talking to Lynskey to confirm.
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Love how people complain about how heavy it is. Compare it to a moot. The moot is half a pound less than the lynskey and like 3 times the cost. Im willing to bet every one commenting on weight (a half pound to less than a pound off all the high end ti frames) could stand to LOOSE A FEW POUNDS OF BODY WEIGHT. I went from a giant revolt (carbon gravel bike) to a lynskey gr300. Sure the ti bike is heavier but if you have the fitness bike weight doesnt matter much been getting pr's on climbs (because fitness). Love how the ti bike absolutely slays on descents (more confidence to just send it, same wheels and tire set up btw). So stable and fast.
Kudos to you on your PR. More people own carbon frames than ti. Somehow weight is everything with carbon bikes, therefore people seem to carry that over to ti frames and forget about its benefits.
@@organicbikepacking7312 ive been thinking about selling my emonda for a ti frame for the road. Those carbon bike just dont have the soul of a ti bike. Also weight wise my sl6 pro emonda is already heavy for a carbon bike. Ive been looking at no 22 (30 mins away from me) and litespeeds newest roaf bike (claimed to be the loghtest production ti frame road bike i guess) i thi k i could build either of those frames up to easily be within a pound of my current emonda.
That R500 frame is more than half a pound heavier than my lynskey cooper road frame.
My 2016 Lynskey R240 is 16lbs 9oz. with a full DA 9100 package and Hunt UD36 carbon wheels. That's ready to ride. I don't call that heavy at all.
The weight of the bike is far more important than bodyweight assuming you are already in cycling shape especially when climbing. The steeper and longer the climb is.. the more it matters. Each kg/lb you lose on your bodyweight, it also means less power to the pedal. 1kg is more than 1% of your weight or power. This means your FTP just went from i.e 300 to 297-295 by losing 1kg/2.2lb. Downhill descent also plays a big role.
Awesome build there 👏
you have a good taste of style. it look so good, neat and silvery
Beautiful bike. I’ve got a GR300 and love it. Yes, it’s heavier than the carbon frame it replaced, but the ride and durability are so refreshing. If you ride your bike a lot, it’s so nice not worry about scratches.
Thank you. Gr300 looks really comfortable. I agree with all you’ve mentioned about T.I bikes.
What’s your current set up with your gr300. I also have one but I considering switching it to a road set up. I just couldn’t find any videos about doing that set up
Yeah I went with the GR300 also for my gravel rig. Love it so far. A few choice upgrades make it super comfy and fun to ride.
Beautiful build! I have a Helix Pro and a GR Race. They are great rides.
Thanks for sharing you rides. Both are awesome bikes.
Aesthetically speaking this is truly a beautifully balanced bicycle. Normally small sized bikes are overwhelmed by 700c wheels but this one is not. Just a few things I find that might accentuate the lines. First, the stem is a bit chunky on the steer tube clamp side. Although it flows nicely with the bars on the other end it makes the steer tube appear visibly weak where the spacers are. Across on the other end of the top tube the opposite is happening. The seat post clamp being both black and block shaped, interrupts the frame to post transition. I think a less conspicuous, form fitting clamp, maybe in the same titanium color would be nice. I like a touch of red in the pedals but once again the square shape seems off for a pure road bike. It might also be nice to see small amounts of red elsewhere like valves maybe. The last area is the crank but more specifically the chain rings. Visually they add a lot of weight and tangled complexity that seems unnecessary. Overall its industrial simplicity, weapon like angularity and underlying strength are very desirable. 9 out of 10.
Thanks for the details
You're welcome.
What a beauty!
Thank you MrEric.
Cool bike, very classic..
Thank you.
My Ti bike weighs 8.515 kg which is 18.772 lbs it’s a rim brake bike
Light and durable. The biggest draw back regarding weight is usually yourself. Weight weenies part with their money far too easily, paying ridiculous prices for a few grams off. It’s insane, but the bike manufacturers welcome the profits. My bike is a Mark Reilly model
I have a Litespeed that's anything but light, it's 20.5lbs 🤣🤣 I tell myself I only went titanium because my sweat corroded my last two alloy frames 🥲 They are striking bikes though, I get a lot of compliments on mine
Lol man I have similar reasons for the ti bike also.
Thanks for sharing. Same here, I went for the durability but later fall for the unique, exotic and raw frame material. My Litespeed weighs about the same by the way, which I never wish it'd weigh any less. Cheers.
I think this bike looks amazing. I have a GR300.
Thank you. I do like the “all around” advantage the GR300 has.
Titanium is pure class and durability, i remember the old Litespeed. I had 2 carbon trail bike frames with cracking issues and weren't warrantied so i if i decide to swap out my top end XO parts i will be getting the PRO 29
I just noticed you mentioned "trail bike". Lynskey also makes "Live Wire" which has a slacker head tube angle (a little more suitable for tech stuff) then the Pro 29 just saying. I like to climb, so the pro 29 is perfect for my intention.
@@organicbikepacking7312 I probably should have said hardtail and that is what i prefer now and my previous and damaged 2021 Niner is. I have an offer on it from the bike shop so not sure if i want another bike yes or not? I am 68 and in shape for my age however hiking is a great form of exercise as well, i think safer and certainly cheaper, you have a great assortment of bikes there with top end parts
People are complaining about an 18 and a half pound bike with parts that don't break every weekend? Just take a big dump before riding.
My lauf seigla is 20lbs with tubes. Now of course after I bought my lauf these damn gr300 goes on sale. Ugh. 200 for shipping on their end is high though. Nice looking bikes.
Really nice bike. I have aluminum 51cm 2013 CAAD 10 SRAM Force and it weighs 18.5lbs with pedals on, non-disc brake. I was surprised by how light it was for a stock build. It is super responsive and stiff. Not exactly a comfortable bike for long miles.
Thank you. I appreciate you sharing your ride with us; happy riding and be safe.
My litespeed is 17.5 lbs carbon seat post and I went with a 1x system. Carbon seat posts ride better and lighter. It’s only a pound heavier than a high end carbon bike at 57 cm.
Organic, Nice review, Thanks for sharing. Considering purchasing the R500, already have an older rim brake Pro300?. How tall are you? is your a S size??
Thanks, I'm 5.4. when standing over, I clear the tope tube with about 2 inches extra room left. This bike is size Small.
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thank you bro
I’m usually a 54cm and I’m 5’10. My gr300 is M/L.
I’m planning to get one r500, you think I should down size to M? 😊
It's like those zipps where made for that frame.
Sweet. Need to swap out my Lynskey stock skewers for those. How much was that beautiful masterpiece?
Thanks for the kind words. Robert's are great so far. Cheers.
WOW beautiful bike.
What is the cost of the frame?
I bet it costs more than my 2011. Astra Turbo
Thank you. The frame is ok, but if I could only choose one, I'd choose a car over any bikes.
Cleanest bikes ever! Do they ever get ridden?
I can confirm that they do have new thru axles for new orders.
Thank you for the input.
the weight is fine
jeeezus
I'm trying to decide between this and Litespeed Ultimate. I like the look of this better but it is almost 400g heavier. What are you thoughts? Did you weigh the frame?
Hi Quantum,
based on both websites, the Ultimate weighs about 350 grams less which can be significant. I didn't have a chance to weigh the R500 frame before the build.
Aside from the weight, geometry, aesthetic, frame finish, tire clearance, ride feel etc... are worth looking into as well.
- Aerodynamic setup, deeper wheelset, racier look I'd still go with the R500.
- All day with a little more upright geo, more compliant 3.25 AI tubes I'd probably go with Ultimate.
Some of these are marginal difference of course; both frames are awesome, but at the end I'd say choose what you like aesthetically. That goes along way.
my TI is my every day bike and thats what they are best for IMO. your bike is sexy but set up in a racer style seems pointless on paper but this is also what makes bikes fun.
Yes, I'm mostly going for the fun here.
I totally concur! I learned this after about 15 years of riding and owning bikes made of various materials. Ti for everyday riding, steel for solo and long distance, and maybe carbon for performance and/or fast group rides.
How do you like the industrial mill finish?
They are awesome so far.
My aethos is probably a better bike… but oh my is this a 🎉beatiful bike! The lowered chainstays and the frame finish with polished letters… exquisite! It super good looking. Stylish… it makes a point>. I may come at any point now… lol 🎉😂 the bike isnstunning
18lbs is light for that bike. I have the helix pro just cuz I like the looks of the twisted down tube.
I've compared other ti bikes to lynksey frames and majority of them fall within 0.5-0.75lbs such as moots an seven. Not much difference.
I'm wondering if the R500 has a stiffer ride than the Helix Pro or is it marginal?
Thanks for sharing the ride. Helix is another tube I could never get tired of looking at let alone riding on; they are stiffer than the rounded tubes but more compliant than the diamond shaped on the R500. It's hard to tell how much stiffer. However, I've ridden both the R500 and my Litespeed Cherohala with the same wheelset, R500 is noticeably faster of course aerodynamic and many factors involved.
@@organicbikepacking7312 thanks for the reply.
Currently have 4 ti bikes and the helix pro is my favorite. It's so well balanced of compliance and stiffness. I do like that drop seat stay and the diamond shape down tube looks to be like a aero shape from a certain distance.
Spoke with the sales rep at Lynskey and they are currently testing out different paint and etching colors. The guy also said they've invested in new equipment to create more color options in the next coming year/s
I will wait to see what they offer in color schemes
@@bonbonflippers4298 Great, I'm excited to see more color variation from Lynskey as well.
my TI is 18.5lb and at 1/4 of the cost of this build. Could get down to 17lb with carbon bits and then add muds and rack for nice backpapcking/touring rig.
@@howlinhauler Sure, had I gone for the weight, it'd be a different frame/build.
The focus on weight that everybody has doesn’t make much sense. As long as the bike’s weight is in the ballpark of comparable bikes, your wheels and tires are going to make a much bigger difference to handling. Your body weight is also a much bigger factor in the system, so you’d be better off focusing on dropping fat. Worrying about 1-2 pounds on a bike that has otherwise excellent characterizes is foolish
I’m in the market for a new road bike previously only had carbon bikes but someone recommended Linsky and from a long term ownership I don’t mind moving to titanium. Overall are you satisfied? Never ridden or even seen a titanium bike in person
Titanium bikes in general are such a pleasant to own. The uniqueness of the material alone will set you apart from most others (in a good way). On top of that, getting the bike to dial in your preference/customizations etc.. will set you apart from Ti owners.
Overall this bike here is great for what it's intended; will talk more in my next video.
As for the company/quality/customer service, I'd say they are not the worse or best either in terms of educating me what I don't know which I might address on in my next video if I see fit.
@@organicbikepacking7312 Thanks so much! Is there any other brands I should consider? How did you figure out sizing etc? I wish they had a physical location etc. Any tips and tricks when it comes to ordering!
Sure,
Sizing, I recommend measuring your inseam then talk to the rep; they are pretty good about it.
Litespeed is also another awesome US Brand. I’ve had a good experience with the bike I got from them 4 years ago. The finish is rather complicated but on their frame is a little glossier compared to Lynskey which is more matte. As for the aesthetic, people like the etched finish better than the standard black decal. I plan to talk in detail about the finish soon. Hope that helps.
@@organicbikepacking7312 Thanks so much. What made you chose Lynskey over litespeed? is there any other brands I should consider. Is litespeed lighter?
I want road specific, aero, modern geo, and darker/matte finish. I’m not concerned too much on weight. Litespeed is a little glossy for me, but their T1SL frame is one of the lightest compared to others by ~1 pound or 500 grams. I generally try to stick with US base with US materials manufacturers just for warranty purpose if need be.
How much did you spend? I would have gone with litespeed.
LS doesn't have the geo and finish that I wanted.
FYI, the Ti alloy is 3al/2.5v or 6al/4v (not 3.25 or 6.4 as you say in the video
Thank you.
what was the hardest part of the build?
Apart form hours of researching; I'd say sourcing out the components and not knowing if they'd work properly, and what the end result would look like, that was intimidating.
For me. I’d take the durability, looks, and ride quality of Ti and just forget about the two or three pounds.
Get some 30-40mm wheels on 25mm conti GP5000 tires.
That will get your weight down. You dont need deep dish. At the speed you are riding...they are anchors!
That's always an option. Maybe I'll put my 303 Firecrest on one of those bigger climbing days.
What's the weight of the frame do you know? Cheers!
Hi James, I didn't have a chance to weigh the frame before the build, but Lynskey suggests 3.6lbs for this frame.
change your iner tube, sadlle, Look pedal and you're going to loose 300-350grammes. If you need a small cassette you may change for a red one you will increase 120 grammes too ;-)
Im 5'8, would you recomend having Small size on this R500?
@Organic Bikepacking your bike have small size frame if you don't mind, what is your height?
S will be too small for your height. I'd go with size M and try fitting on a 20mm to 25mm offset seatpost first.
Lovely! A Titanium bike made in America! Excellent choice. 👍🏻
However, Too heavy, (even by titanium standards) too expensive (just guessing because no price given) better/smarter components for less money are available and I don’t find this frame “pretty” looks like a 1980s Litespeed.
But hay, it’s not my money and not my bike. So if you love it that’s all that matters! 👍🏻
All the best and safe riding!
Hi Reginald, thank you for your input.
This frame/build is totally a personal choice. However, I do agree with you "if you love it that's all that matters".
Have a safe ride, and happy riding as well.
You might be able to slide your cleats inboard a few mm and eliminate the crankarm rub
I'm trying out a new saddle; I'll keep that in mind when bike fitting. Thank you.
@@organicbikepacking7312 there are also pedal extenders that can be fitted or some pedals actually come with an extended spindle variant (Like the Shimano SPD L). I much prefer to try making adjustments at the cleat first because extended pedal spindles put an extra lateral load on the crank arms and bottom bracket. If you adjust one cleat try to adjust the opposite one equally as well (or at least make sure they are close to the same)
tolerate overtighting well. I have several Lynskeys and I've
People most of your bike is dead weight and does not matter. A pound or two on the bike is basically the same as a pound or two on the rider. The only thing that matters is rotational weight as that has to actually spin so lighter wheels, tires, cranks, pedals, cassette and chain are the only difference that matter. Your body weight constantly fluctuates daily by pounds so quite worrying about a couple pounds on your bike.
I would worry much more about the feel, comfort, stiffness, and handling of a bike before I would worry about a couple pounds on the bike. There is little difference between a 17 pound and 20 pound bike unless it is in the wheels.....
Heavy? My road bike is 12kg
I respect that 🫡
So you spend around 15k well done 👍
My giant TCR SL 7.200 kg
My soloist weighs that much, wholly crap
To many Carbon for a Titan LOLp
Please, clamp you bikes on the seat post, not the frame in a bike stand!
Thanks, I should start doing that.
Sorry but my lynskey is prettier 😊