Should veto power of permanent members of the UNSC be revoked? | Inside Story
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- Despite more than 9 weeks of Israeli massacres in Gaza, the UN Security Council has been unable to agree on a ceasefire.
The Secretary General invoked a rarely used power to urge the Security Council to act.
But the US blocked it, using its veto power.
Critics say this absolute power of the five permanent members renders the world body helpless.
So, is it time for the veto power to be removed?
Presenter: Cyril Vannier
Guests:
Carne Ross, Former UK diplomat
Maleeha Lodhi, Former Pakistani envoy to UN
Vyacheslav Matuzov, Former Russian diplomat
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The resolution should be adopted based on majority members vote, and the veto power must be revoked in order to let UN perform and take actions towards peace with more freedom
The USA, Israel and allies will simply ignore the resolution. Then what? We remain in the same situation.
Will those in favor enforce it with their militaries?
And what if a great power refuses to follow
@@anshuraj4277 That's why the UN also needs to grow some teeth. There won't be peace until the most powerful force on the planet is commanded by the UN and not any individual country. You cant be the policeman if you don't have the means to enforce the law....
@@BobyourUncle never gonna happen.. No nation state will give up its sovereignty
Yes, the veto power of permanent members of the UN should be revoked. When one country such as the USA or Israel can prevent a much-needed ceasefire from happening, something is very wrong with how the UN functions. There should be no permanent members of the UN Council, they should have to earn their place according to their record of human rights and humanitarian endeavors. Voting should be passed by the standard of majority rules.
How would a ceasefire be enacted even if a majority is the rule? The USA and Israel would simply ignore the resolution and carry on doing what they do.
Pissrael*
@@MisoAntro you could potentially start sanctioning those countries and business related to their economy as they did with Ukraine
Yes that is how it should be. Super powers like USA should not be allowed to use their veto powers and put the whole world in danger. Like now when Israel is committing a huge genocide on Palestinian civilians by Israel and USA is is supporting Israel and gave them a blank check. USA for the third time used its very powers. This is absolutely ridiculous and stupid.
Israel doesn't have veto power. US does though. Veto power should be removed.
Veto should be revoked. We just witnessed the misuse of it by a party that is complicit. Absolute conflict of interest.
Yes let's change the rules because it does not benefit the side I am currently on. And keep doing so till I always win. It's the only way obviously to bring peace to the world and couldn't possibly go wrong because I know what's best for you.
@@davidhamilton7969 i like your style
This has happened, when Syria was killing innocent civilians, and Russia used the veto several times. This isn't new, it's just the only one you're aware of.
There cannot be UN without veto of major powers. Its as simple as that. If you pass a resolution against the will of a major power you essentially start WW3
It's also been a big reason for making peace agreements fall through. It's insane.
YES, the whole world is seeing the TRUTH. There is no turning back. The world is now knowing what Palestinians have been going through for 75+ years. Blessings, Everyone.🧡
Again the truth was viewed on Oct 7th
The real truth is that the Jewish people are the victims. 75 years of oppression is a result of Arabic expulsions and pogroms against the Jewish people before even even Israel existed.
Explain jaffa 1936 jaffa 1929 jaffa 1921 canakkale 1934 yemen 1922 Tehran 1910 and so on. Explain why the majority of Israel's population are mizrachi Jews expelled from these countries and not european
The Arab world put the situation into place by pushing the Jews there. Not the Israelis. Go solve the original roots of this problem....
You post this everywhere. What’s behind your profile? Who are you people? I don’t even disagree but it’s unsettling seeing mass propaganda in any form
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The permanent members of the UNSC already have an excessive power just by having that permanent seat, this in addition to their economic power and influence. The power of veto is absurdly OP. It must be limited, as we see how this veto renders UNSC a totally useless and counter-productive entity in certain cases.
There should be more permanent members: India is not represented (being the most populous country in the world), Africa is not represented, Latin America is not represented, the Arab and Muslim countries are not represented. Not only are not represented, they are Ignored.
USA veto makes world population sick and anger.
Haven’t you see Russia use it to veto Putin war against the Ukraine?
Yes so we have to change the rules now, in order for our side to win and protect our own interests and bring world peace because we know better and it won't go wrong because we know better.
USA is biggest threat to peace
So sickening
You on drugs
Yes veto should go
Yes, Veto power of countries must be revoked ASAP as it's outrageous that just one or few countries can overturn a major decision which will be beneficial for the entire world. Also what's the point in conducting a voting session if ultimately the final decision/plan cannot be implemented just because one or few countries didn't accept it or voted against it, it's a clear time waste for the whole world. 😒😏😏
Exactly !!! The powers have to be shifted ,this way it seems that usa ,great britain and israel are in charge of everyone and everything ...and it's malicious ,enough is enough!
Thats nonsense. The fact that no major power vetos a resolution is what makes it effectively binding. You cannot impose a resolution against the will of a major power without starting world war 3.
Reason is there was this war where over 60 nations fought across the globe and it changed the world completely, the winners created and funded the institution therefore they make the rules. No nation has to be apart of it, they could even make there own version of it. However the 5 will never give up all there power and redistribute it to all other countries because in the real world we are not all equal and no one cares about your feelings, winning wars and power is what matters.
YES IT SHOULD BE REVOKED. BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE UNSC WORK PROPERLY IN THE INTEREST OF THE VICTIM.
It's a residue of colonial power dominance.
Yes let's change the rules right now because it does not benefit the side I am currently on and keep doing so till I always win.
Everyone should be treated equally. UN must be reorganized.
Let's bribe Uganda or the likes to veto anything for a couple of years. 😀
Yes winning wars and world wars shouldn't mean one side has more power then another. The world has never worked that way since the beginning of human kind. When one side wins they should gain nothing am I right?
@@davidhamilton7969 Well it shouldn't because a couple of nations fought a war that ended 80 years ago, shouldn't mean that they be given authority to do as they please today, especially when a good chunk of the nations today weren't even the same as they area today.
@@thetruth3454 You are tremendously underscoring the implications of WW2, it wasn't "a couple nations fought a war" it was OVER 60 nations fought global wars throughout Asia, Africa, Europe and the seas. And it didn't change "a good chunk of the nations" it changed every nation and the outcome defined the future of the world defined by the winners. Thats how the world works it is how it has always worked. You might not like it based on your feelings but in reality the world doesn't care about your feelings. Beat the global powers and take over then and Goodluck lol
The answer is yes, the veto needs to be revoked permanently after this, and never reinstated.
Im afraid the Us will veto their removal from the committee as well
LOL.... so that is why they call it a permanent member?
😁😁😁
I love your foresight 😅😅😅
This time they going to loose because will be by majority vote
They shouldn't even get to vote on their removal from the committee. Just remove all veto power from all the 5 countries.
Absolutely! There should be no way for 1 to veto all others. Absurdity
Yes world wars shouldn't have consequences and give power to the winning side that's stupid.
@@davidhamilton7969 The US isn't in a war..... right? Because Isreal does not have a veto. Unless of course you're saying the the US is just a puppet on a string to Zionism.... then you're probably correct. But actually you're still wrong because Isreal is certainly not "winning " anything especially this "war"
That is a very good idea - no right of veto for any country, just a majority vote. This refusal to back a ceasefire has been despicable. Thousands of lives could have been saved if it wasn’t for the American government. Personally I think the UN should be given more powers, so that they could actually take action, not just use words that are not binding and enforceable.
This is nonsense. You essentially ask for the UN to get the power to start WW3. You simply cannot pass a resolution against a major power without endangering international peace.
leve palestina🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
even the world has an Apartheid Syndrome
we will support a free palestine
If every country was treated the same, small or powerful... we'd have a better world.
Vetos should be revoked and so should be compulsory contributions
The vote needs to be the majority rules. As an American, I am so upset with how the USA voted. Biden has lost my vote......
just wait until smart countries start revoking israeli and american visas and visitor permits.
and closing israeli and american embassies.
and refusing israeli and american imports.
then netanyahu and biden/trump will have to declare themselves dictators.
Yes yes yes!!! Im in the uk and I believe the veto should go, it should be a majority based decision. Isn't that what we strive for in democracy. Having the veto power just means you make all final decisions and if you're involved in the situation financially etc you shouldn't be able to make that final decision. FREE PALESTINE ❤🇵🇸
Yes it should be permanently revoked. And if possible UN should entirely be disbanded
A country actively involved in aggressions should not and by the UN Charter cannot vote at all let alone veto...so they were not following the rules anyway
US and Russia are literally involved in every conflict, Cold War never ended mate, some people just dont want to admit it, proxies have been ongoing since WW2, both countries support opposed parties in each part of the world, they both fight for their interests, their allies, UK, France and China wish to be more involved as well
Absolutely - just a throwback to colonial powers. All nations should be equal
Yes winning wars and world wars shouldn't give power that doesn't make any sense. It's never been a thing in human history what absurdity! Rofl
Thank you to the countries who are in favor of the cease fire in Gaza
Yes, immediately, and be based upon a majority vote.
I was ashamed that the UK abstained but there again they are not a democratically elected government
Yes. Wars and world wars shouldn't have consequences! The current rules should be changed because it doesn't work for us right now and it will bring peace to the world because we know better and nothing could go wrong from that.
Deganwy said very deep things and 100% correct it is we are seeing that. There is no justice for small or poor countries. UN is not more than oppression for the world. Everyone must have same right of Vote in UN otherwise, UN must be Boycott allover the world.
What he said was correct but that wasn't what interviewer asked.
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Without a question. Same is true for the permanent member status.
But one must also recognize that without these powers the UN likely would never have been established because no major power wanted to yield to a single organization.
Getting them to relinquish this power is incredibly hard, just like the EU getting rid of the unanimous vote requirement for many topics.
But realistically, it's all theater anyway: Neither the US nor Russia care about what the UN, or the ICJ, say if it doesn't align with their interests.
These 5 members are no longer representative. India , brazil, s. Arabia, japan all kept out. More representative should be there
While calling itself human right defender, US has always oppose basic human right such as freedom and self determination of Palestinians in UN since 1948 because of the lobby
remove the veto power
Yes, it needs to be revoked.
I don't think it should be revoked, but there should be limits on it. For example, in order to utilize the veto power, you need to have at least 50% of the members on your side. Or veto can be over turn if 60% of the other members vote against it.
Are you a kid or what? Your proposition will in practice abolish a veto vote. And lets be honest here. Veto powers should remain in place. Maybe add another 1 or 2 countries. But under no circumstance should Mauretania's vote be worth as much as Chinas or US. UN is not functioning properly but it has 1 good thing going for it. It allows an open channel between world powers.
when the security council member is supply bombs to the conflict, that member should not be allowed to veto a cease fire peace resolution.
Cyril Vannier is an Excellent Journalist. My Eternal Thanks! Blessings, Palestinians, Israelis, all peoples, everyone. 💙
More than 40 times the US has vetoed resolutions - it is obvious that the United Nations is being treated by the US as an extension of the United States government. They treat the UN with utter contempt. The UN should be moved to a neutral country like Switzerland.
Yes totally agree!
You know that AJ is being intentional in misleading the viewers to support their current conversations? They conveniently do not mention who is the second highest user of the UN veto? Do some research, Russia has used it 35 times and the Soviet Union has used it more than any permanent member. So dont take things at face value, research should aid your judgment.
Yes just because they won world wars shouldn't mean they have power, that doesn't make any sense! Lol
If majority votes don't matter, why do they vote in the first place?
Bureaucracy
To show what each country stands for
Revoking Vito power must louder!
The VITO power in UN is the root cause of Palestinian suffering
as it allows certain countries to block actions or decisions that may have otherwise been agreed upon by the majority of the members.
This has been a major obstacle to finding a peaceful resolution to the Israeli occupation of Palestine.
Additionally, the UN could impose economic sanctions on Israel to pressure them into ending the occupation. These sanctions could include restrictions on trade, financial transactions, and investments in Israel. By putting economic pressure on Israel, the UN may be able to compel them to negotiate in good faith and find a resolution to the conflict.
Absolutely !
One veto is probably as unworkable as the EU’s unanimous vote on so many things
There should be no veto power if the vote is 10 and over. Or there has to be 2 vetos if the vote is 10 and above.
You think the usa and uk wont veto together😂
@@SolutionsWithin They abstained because they knew the US would be enough
Do u really think the UK would defy the USA if it really mattered
@@SolutionsWithin Its cute that you think that
Yes, it should. And then US, Russia, and China leave the UN. Just look which states put themselves under the authority of the ICC.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
it should be revoked but none of them will agree to lose their veto right
I'd say yes, but they'd put it to a vote and they'd veto it lmao.
back in those days , the interest of the permanent 5 members were aligned, nowadays it's used as their ace card
Security council decisions should be on majority not veto
That would be democracy.
Veto powers should be abolished, because this is No more useful at present Time, General assembly given more Powers instead of veto Power, necessary Change's should be done, without delay, the matter's like Palestine and Kashmir Unnessarily Prolonged United Nations fails to implement it's resolutions.
For any member to have permanent veto power is just inherently unjust. There should always have been a phase-out period.
I like Ambassador Lohdi’s points. It’s a shame so many of our really good and principled states persons are retired.
YES and in bold letters too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS HAS NO USE AND ITS HAS TO BE REFORM WITHOUT INJUSTICES OR SALFISHINESS INTERESTS .
It is very shocking how Biden addressed the world that they will be counting to supply military assistance to Israel. All your gusts expressed their views on the Gaza situation very well. Especially Maliah. I am strongly agree with the Russian diplomat. 🇵🇰 ❤🇵🇸
No Vito end this Vito bs.
Definitely the veto power should be revoked yesterday. The injustice we see on the grounds and in UN is deplorable. The world should stand against the power of the veto countries and remove it. If this can't be done then members of the body should stop going to UN as this body has no value anymore. Shame to all leaders who don't insist of removing veto power.
VETO POWER NEED TO GO
Good people's we need in this world,not evils
Reform UN NOW !!!
It's Hitler's masterpiss.
Yes
Short answer, yes.
Yes absolutely!
There should be no permanent Security Council members at all, let alone a veto power.
Yes please, pls make UN a powerfull body to maintain peace and security in the world
Maleeha Lodhi succint and on point!
Clearly yes!
Yes, it should not be any vetopower at all !
Well the international condemnation of genocide should not be subjective and hostage to veto power by states complicit in genocide.
I don't think the Russian guy even listened to the questions.
One can talk about reforming the Security Council as much as one likes . The permanent members will never agree to have their vetos removed . It is a way for the permanent members to give the middle finger to the rest of the world .
Sad innit.
What a brilliant and intelligent response by Maleeha Lodhi!! She is truly an asset to her nation Pakistan and humanity as a whole! Keep up the good work honorable Muslim lady! 😊👍🏼
the general assembly should be able to overrule the veto
Yes.
Should be abolished.
Yes. They can't be trusted, obviously. And I apologize for my country's vote.
What's the point of international laws. Or democracy when a single country can dissmiss all others from voting, making their votes no matter 😂😂😂😂😂
I have been saying that for years. Why 5 countries out of 145 or more countries must Decide for everybody else future. USA pays more to un so they can have more power over others and this VETO Idea is was ridiculous idea since the beginning and only served those 5 members Benefits.
It served the whole world because it prevented a Big new war.
Yes !
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yesss.
Veto power should introduce a vote where a 2 thirds majority must override the veto.
Revoke!!!
Yes ..
Veto doesn't make any kind of democratic sense.
This is actually an upgrade for both Arab and the West. Stop the aggression in Gaza AND stop Russian invasion of Ukraine
yes
Veto power must be revoked 😢
Yea
I cant wait to see the freedom of palestinians 🇵🇸.
Yes ofcourse it should. Humanity should prevail above anything
Revoke the veto. Otherwise, what's the point in voting.
This guy is great. I'm going to use his phrase " If you don't mind, I'm going to have to jump in". Brilliant. I need that when a debate in sues and I'm being talked over, my opinion dismissed and I haven't known how to speak up in that situation. Being a quiet person, raised with good manners. What normally happens is that I'm not heard until things get heated and then the person only hears the tone of the discussion and not what is being said. "If you don't mind, I'm going to have to jump in here". Is the perfect way to keep things civil, yet have my voice, information, point and stand on the topic before us heard.
Thank you! God bless!
What if the other person minds? What then?
Yes veto only if at least 3 of 13 countries oppose!
If it was, we could have stopped the war in Ukraine. We need a new UN strategy
You mean the one in the Crimea since 2014.
@@eleanorcoughlan5543 yes
Crimea is Ukraine.
Wow!! Have you asked this question before??
ABSOLUTELY ⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰
Yes it should
YES
Reforms are necessary in UNSC. Their power on economical sanctioned and war crimes should revoke.
YES. YES. YES. VETO BY ONE COUNTRY SHOULD BE DUMPED.
That’s right
If you are going to leep the srupid permanent members set it up so it takes a majority of the permanent members to carry or establish a veto.
The important vote that carries anything should be the general assembly.
all countries should be treated equal with an equal vote no veto