WILL IT RUN? The Cheapest Land Rover LR4
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Today we see what is up with the cheap LR4 we just traveled 1500 miles to pick up. After that whirlwind trip are we able to get it started?
Video on the 1500 mile trip towing an LR4 with a LR4: • Land Rover Rescue! Can...
We also do some rearranging in the yard using that $300 amazon winch on from of the budget LR4.
Link to the budget winch that just keeps putting in work: amzn.to/3OUgRCP
Huge thanks to William and his family, their links are down below. As you saw with the Lost Cause piece, they do some really neat work!
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id love to see a complete engine rebuild and install on that aj133
I think it would be fun to get it out on a stand and really tear into and get a good look at one.
Second this!!
Christian and Vera at LR TIME have done several videos of body off repairs and are super helpful. I'd like to see the engine pulled and the timing chain replacement/engine refub done. Then put back. Go through every issue and get it to 100%(ish). This is the next "Disco 2" in the Land Rover line-up. Those videos would help a lot of people get their LR4 in the best operating condition.
Agreed, they have some good videos on that.
I’m sure we will have some decent videos documenting the chain stuff on this one. Get that out of the way and these are much less scary to own.
I'd love to see the chains/tensioners replaced and the whole rig fixed. 👌
Thanks for the input! I think it is worth saving. I need to find a more roached out one to tear all the way down I think.
i agree as a timing chain job looms in the distance for my 2012
Yeah. Me too.
Damn, I never thought i could possibly get to love the LRs as i do now.
I love this channel.......
This is your number 1 fan in Southern Africa region, in Mozambique!
I would like to own one of these.... i will keep watching your videos... informative, fun and addictive...
Glad to have you here! Thanks for following along the Land Rover journeys. We should have some more interesting coming up as well.
All the options are great here Joe. If you are looking at charities, since we work with salvaged wood in our wood business, any tree planting or conservation efforts would be cool. Your choice though.
It is cool to see you got Merlin started. We parked him before the timing chain broke completely.
I like that idea, aligns with the type of stuff I’m passionate about as well.
You guys definitely did it right and made it so Merlin was still saveable. Bending the valves would have put it past the point of no return.
Amazing work getting the old boy back up and running and driving under her own power, even if he’s currently down on power. Merlin looks just too good to break for parts, surely he’s worth replacing the knocked timing chains in order to give him a second chance? Once sorted then look to find him another owner so he can live another day. Great job as always. 👍😎
I think you are right, it is far too nice to just tear apart. Chains will be done.
Retail the LR4 would love to watch the videos of the progress!
Would be a fun little series to do.
Love the video as I used to own a Toyota and every time I used to work on a land rover I said to my self I would love to own an lr3 or lr4 finally sold my toyota and bought my first lr3 I had for 2 years and it needs a timing chain on it I dont regret getting my lr3 I still love this vehicle is by far the best vehicle ever owned I'm just glad to see more people love this vehicle all though they have a bad reputation..
That’s awesome to hear. They are just such a cool vehicle, they have some quirks but they are worth it.
I like the three way split. Recover your cost, pay the family, and give to charity.
Thanks for the input. I think that is the most responsible thing to do with it.
I'm craving for educational content on the LR4 inners and outers. There is so little out there! Then if you put it back together, the 3 way thing sounds like the thing to do. The next best thing is to use all the profits to buy other LR4s for fixing (after all, you're a business). Thanks!
Something else that would be super nice is to do mods that make the LR4 more reliable in a long trip. Things like being able to bypass the air suspension module if it breaks; Being able to turn the infotainment system off when camping so it doesn't drain the battery for 5 mins every time you open a door; being able to reprogram the Engine ECU to use lower octane fuel when premium is not available. I think there needs to be more redundancy with manual workaround to avoid being stranded somewhere... I have a ton of ideas because I would like to drive an LR4 from Canada to Argentina and the way it is now will not work really good. However, all those mods could be done on the silver budget LR4. Cheers!
I like the ideas. It would be nice to have the ability to simplify much of those things to get out of some situations.
That trip sounds like it would be a blast!
Detailed videos putting it back together, please!!! Great video!
I think that may happen! Thanks
Joe's Towing and Recovery! I vote repair the issues and then either split proceeds from sale or pay it forward in some way, especially if you could 'bulletproof' some of the common issues so it wouldn't be a maintenance burden on the recipient.
Too bad I would lose my shorts with my incredible recovery speed haha.
I think that is the most sensible route.
Nice to see one more LR4 not in a salvage yard , But I hope you will do A lexus V8 swap anytime soon I'v seen them done in Ukrain and Russia and they seems to work phenomenal.
That would be kind of fun to tackle.
Would love to see you sort out the timing chain issue and then put it up for sail and split the process three ways, you the original owners and a local charity, that way Everyone is happy and we the great youtube watching public get a great video or two or three of you sorting out the issues before selling.
Joe
Appreciate the input, I think that is a good compromise with the whole thing.
This channel has actually made me want an LR4, is there a preferred year to get? maybe you could walk through all the weak points and the strong points of the LR4. 180k is pretty good run for a suv in my opinion especially a European one that never had the ts timing chains done.
I bought my 2010 land rover hse with 109,000 miles on it 4 yrs ago and I've had very little issue with it and I love it .There fun to drive and so comfortable but it's just been my daily driver no off roading and before me it was garage kept and was in excellent shape for a 9 yr old land rover inside and out.
Did have to have the upper A arms replaced when I got it. It had little jitter in the front end and that's what it was.
Has 130,000 on it now and the engine is still very strong transmission is as smooth as new.
I paid $15,900 for it so there not expensive if you are lucky to find one in as good a shape as I did and you don't mind the higher mileage.
I cant see me selling it for along time I really enjoy it and if you find one I know you will enjoy yours to for whatever reason you get it.
get a 2010 2.7 or a 2011 3.0 biturbo. Cranks on those were better quality and the 2.7 is simpler to work on and maintain albeit a bit low on horsepower. The biturbo has ALL the grunt (really, that thing PULLS). Get the HSE with the secondary aircon unit because depending on the heat (like if you live in Phoenix or something), the aircon will work overtime to keep a cabin that big cool.
If you go for one with air suspension, check the compressor drying filter lid for cracks, they tend to crack there, easy repair, most people just apply JBWeld to it, but it's a cheap fix.
ALWAYS check the suspension airbags for leaks, no need to replace the entire strut since the shocks on those last FOREVER, so just replace the rubber bags for new ones.
I own one in Brazil, with horrible roads and fuel quality, it just tipped over 140 thousand miles and it's a BEAST. I can't find ANYTHING with that level of ride comfort and offroad capability. And I am genuinely surprised with how reliable it has been.
What part of the world are you in? That makes a bit of a difference on what is the best option as the engines and options are different throughout. For instance in the US we only got the gas engines.
@@LostCauseRanch I'm in north America. Currently in the Pacific Northwest but planning a move to the north east. I've never looked into a LR4 till I started watching your budget build. And I know nothing about them.
Ok, if you want the 5.0. 2013 is the year to get. Supposed to have the updated chain guides (Although we have still seen some needing replacement, at a lower rate though).
I would also look for one with the HD package.
Maybe I’ll sit down and do a more in depth video on options and what not on these.
I'd look for a LOCAL charity organization or wildlife-oriented group that could use a big beast like that and donate it and maybe let them know that if something happens, you'd fix it no problem.
Giving it away to a family in need might be a problem because it's a potential maintenance burden as you said.
One thing I never seen any youtube channel do is use one of these as a modification platform (suspension lift or mods, locker diffs and whatnot) to make it even better at offroading even if you sacrifice some on-road driveability. I don't see people showing how to build a steel bumper or rear tire carrier for those and I would LOVE to see some LR4 modification content.
Thanks for the input!
Some of those modifications may be in store for the silver one in the near future. So I should have some videos there.
I bought a lr4 because of your Chanel and unfortunately it had a terrible smoke smell. I had to remove every single panel and do ozone treatment. It’s still gutted in my driveway! I can send you some pictures and videos if you really want to see one torn apart. I would love to see the engine out and timing chains video bc I will have to do that at some point. Btw they come apart amazingly easy compared to others.
Love that you dug right into it. Glad to hear it went well. Enjoy that thing!
You are more than welcome to send some pictures over. Thanks!
Make it like new then make it the largest disco 4 ever made 😎 take on those defenders with 35’s and 37’s out in Colorado 🇺🇸
37s would be neat to see on an LR4.
@@LostCauseRanch doooooo it 😎haha
Given that you rescued the wonderful Sasha from a bad life, maybe you donate a share of any profits with a local dog rescue charity and help other great dogs like Sasha find a better life 😊
That’s a good idea! There is a couple around here that could use the money in a good way.
Document the Repair... make it Run! Then Auction it! Then Donate the Proceds after expenses to a Charity!
I kind of think that is the route. Toss some to the family that had it before as well. It won’t be anything huge but better than nothing for everyone.
Of course that timing chain.. then The issues with the LR3/LR4s.. show rebuilding the air suspension.. the water entry issues, sunroof leaking, the rear tailgate rebuild with Land Rover Passions’ tailgate tool…. Then the trans kit rebuild from Atlantic British..
This would get it to stable.. then tackle the tweaks and quirks, get a GAP IID tool and either give it to a handy family (that can do a lot of maintenance themselves, or like some of the folks said here, auction it and give the proceeds to charity. I will be glad to donate toward getting parts for the cause.
I just wish I had the tools and knowledge too work on one!!
It’s just nuts and bolts haha. But no, it’s all mindset on working in these, I’d rather work in these than a Chevy.
You sometimes try to sell us on your mishaps; I believe you are a brilliant LR tech!
I have my days haha. I really do enjoy playing with these things.
Create another low-cost Overland build and invite a fan to do a large overland trip!
That’s a unique idea. Nice thoughts!
Strip it down to an off-road racer. Prep it for Baja or say Dakar Rally. Or maybe something a little less ambitious but worthwhile. The LR's, supposedly legendary off roaders, are woefully under-represented in off road competitions of all kinds (best I can tell). That's just wrong! Joe, you gotta do something about that.
Now that would be fun. I think I need to find one of these in a little worse shape to have some fun with. Or maybe someday we can replace the Silver one with a new Defender for a daily and go to town on that one.
all the way from jamaica fix it fix it fix it and sell it do a video on step by step doing the timming and whatever else need fixing step by step kooooool
That is a good possibility! Definitely could do a more in depth timing chain video.
kooooool@@LostCauseRanch
This one is too nice to part out... I'm saying pull the motor and show us a detailed video of how to replace the timing chains in it's entirety for those of us that would rather do the work ourselves.
I agree with you that it is too nice to tear apart. That means I need to find a rough one haha.
I need an LR4 in my life :)
They are pretty nice to have around.
@@LostCauseRanch I’ve been watching your videos and now I want one. There are few being sold near me but sellers have not been able to tell me if timing chains were done or need to be redone. I don’t have the tools nor the time to do it myself so I’m at a loss of getting one of these rigs
I would try to find one with the chains done for sure. Otherwise make sure you budget the additional money for it just in case it ever needs them. If you have that budgeted it is not that big of an emergency if/when it happens.
Whatever everyone says, you will not regret buying an LR3 or LR4. Just keep an ear out for the timing chain and get used to an OBD2 scanning tool. But besides that, there is something happening behind the wheel the owners just can't really describe it. You will simply understand when it happens to you! Cheers!
@@LostCauseRanchwhen I bought my 2010 lr4 hse 4 yrs ago the dealer got it from an auction and there's no history of it having timing chains replaced so I took a risk because I'm not in a position to spend that kind of money on having that done but I fell In love with it and couldn't walk away.
It is as solid an engine and transmission as I could ask for in a 2010 with 109,000 miles now 130,000 .
I'm thinking it may have had timing chains replaced but have no clue.maybe they traded it before they had to do which most wpuld do I suppose .
But I couldn't be happier with it for now.
With the prices of vehicles today I hope it's stays strong we will see.
Oh yes you should always take in more land rovers or range rovers.Even if there not drivable they make the nicest colorful yard art for all the local birds to rest and poop all over and great cover for any ground critters looking to find a dry place to raise a family 😅😂.
And yes you bought a real winner in that Amazon winch. Seems it can get you out of some pretty tricky situations with some clever tree rigging.
Nice work
And you got it running wow your a genius.😊
What to do with Merlan huh.
That's a toughy because your right about giving it to a family in need.With 183,000 miles we land rover owners all know things are going to happen and it's not cheap to fix so not the way to go if it was my decision. Other than someone using it for a grocery getter that has the means or the ability like you to do all repairs and maintenance I guess the only other thing is what you said giving it or selling it to an offroad adventure place but the timing chains would need to be replaced before it would last very long doing that with it.
I just think it's still to nice to strip it down and piece it out but it would make for a cool bunch of videos of you doing that.
Or you could start a weekend RENT A ROVER for an off roading weekend and make some money to put towards rebuilding the other rovers you have in the shop.
But I ha e no idea how that would work with insurance .I guess you would have to carry liability on whoever rents it for a weekend and all that but it may never make it back from the weekend because it's at the bottom of rocky hill it slid off and tumbled for days 😅😂.
Never enough Rovers laying in the yard haha.
Maybe we could finish up the off road trail loop at the ranch and make this one to ride on there. $10 for a go at a loop.
I don’t think giving it to a person/family in need is a good idea. Too many jiggly bits to break, and none are generally cheap to repair or easy to trace. We are not talking about an easy American domestic vehicle or a reliable Japanese vehicle.
I bought my LR3 knowing there can be expensive issues, and I have had three expensive issues so far, and I am mechanically, electrically, electronically & diagnostically knowledgeable. I ended up paying someone because I can. My son who is half way through his mechanics apprenticeship does the repairs now. Fortunately he has access to his boss’s full workshop after hours/weekends. He does work on it now - he does not like working on it, but hey; I am his Dad lol. Plus for the last two years it has been trouble free with only servicing, brake rotors/pads and one CV boot.
I reckon you should repair it, sell it and divide any proceeds as you described. Money might be a better option for an organisation or a genuine person in need (not someone who will waste it in booze, cigarettes & drugs).
That is awesome with your son! Even if he doesn’t always like it. That career can be a nice path.
I think you are right that money would go further. It won’t be anything huge when it’s all said and done since a high mileage Rover only has so much value, but everything ends up making a difference.
HAHAHA well you can entertain for sure, so what is leaking from it lol. 180k no problem it would look nice in my driveway for the Kiddo to use :-)
I sure have a way of complicating things don’t I?
Fix it up, do a few drive review and sell it. It’s too good and it’s a survivor to be dismantled and as a responsible Land Rover mechanic/owner we do not wish to bestow this beast of financial burden on to a family in need!
I agree there. I wouldn’t ever want to put that burden on someone not willing or in the position or have the want to maintain a higher mileage one.
When you get it fixed up, How about raffling it! $10 a ticket proceeds go to your chosen charity or good cause.
I am over here in England so wouldn’t expect you to ship it back across the pond if I won 😂but £10 to a good cause is pretty cool. Imagine if all your viewers bought a ticket!!!
That would be kind of neat to do. Then no matter the condition or future work it needs it was only $10 so you can’t complain haha.
@@LostCauseRanch you’ve got it in one! And anyone buying a ticket knows what they are getting into. Everyone is a winner!
There’s only one way. The roof. Needs to be removed ❤
That’s the type of direction my head goes with cheap ones haha. We are on the same wavelength there.
Strange finally adding one to the pile, haven’t been keeping up at that like you.
Fix it up, and sell it to an enthusiast. Don't think it is wise to sell to someone that can't fix it themself. Faults will occur, and it is expensive to fix in a shop.
I think you are on track. It would be borderline cruel to give it to someone not enthusiastic and wanting to put up with the quirks.
Give it away to a family in need but make sure u will be there to fix it just in case of something major
That would be the only way I would be comfortable with that route.
Would love your advice on my 2010 lr4.
Restricted performance
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Does your Autel work on the Disco 2’s as well? For instance key programming and ABS bleeding?
I’ll have to check. I think I can do the abs bleed but no keys.
Show us how to fix chains and donated. ❤
Appreciate the input!
Have you done any videos on the LR3 4.4 v8 thinking of importing one from Japan I l am in the Uk don’t want a diesel,any feed back would be helpful thx bro 🤘🇬🇧
Not as many videos, but the 4.4 is a pretty stout motor we ran a ton of those for a lot of miles. The LR3’s are great, used to daily those before I switched to the LR4. If the LR3 had a touch more power I would probably still be in one.
@@LostCauseRanch thx for the feed back appreciate it🍺👍
Maybe build an LR4 / Disco 4 that makes the New Defender look overpriced and silly? 😉
Not a terrible idea (though I do want a new Defender too haha).
I'm sure some charity would appreciate it in your area , even if it was to sell for money .
Appreciate the input. I think we may try to get it in nice order and try to maximize the money out of it for some good.
soccer player widebody lr4
That would be fun!
bro is it true that landrover always breaks down?
See if you have any veteran non profits in your area and reach out to them?
There is one that some of the local Jeep guys work with. That’s not a terrible idea to see.
@@LostCauseRanch , that would be great if it worked out. I’m used to work with a veteran non profit here in the northeast. A lot of them are into outdoor therapy and overlanding. 🇺🇸
Is it feasible to do a LS swap on one of these LR4
I think there is a possibility on it. The interface with all the terrain modes is what I’m curious on. I’d like to figure that out some day.
Ok thank you for the response. I would like to build something like that with my brother. It’s the only 7 seater off-roading vehicle I like but I always read things about the motor and it so issues. Plus my brother keeps on saying that we need to do a LS swap :D.
Someone could use a low cost LR4
This one may be the perfect opportunity for someone.
Detailed engine swap for something more reliable. There are videos from russia where these have Toyota/lexus engines in it. World needs the howto for swapping these engines. Discos are fantastic cars but those engines are bit scary.
Once the timing chain situation is sorted I don’t mind the 5.0.
But it would be neat to put something else in there for fun too.
@@LostCauseRanch Yea, i guess the 5l is better than the 3l tdv6 we in Europe have.
PLEASE PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME
Haha. It’s always worth a shot asking.