Future to be Determined, Maturana and von Foerster
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- The second of a series of three 30 minute videos produced by the American Society for Cybernetics and Change Management Systems, directed by Pille Bunnell, 1998.
This instalment is about Education.
Love this. Teacher is learner. If we come into the world already with knowledge according to Plato and learning is remembering, it seems to me that the child being fresh (in more ways than one)and not corrupted by the world is the better teacher.
this is a beautiful discourse....filled with much love..
'let actual fresh thinking create reality'... I guess it's a task to be of that age and let the ideas of reality evolve freshly. Still very proper idea, I think this autopietic thinking should be stimulated way more. Thinking of a digital space that asks for the genius minds to speak themselves out there.
This conversation is meta in so many ways
gracias
thanx
But, isn't that a false distinction. That we are all equal participants in a mysterious world. If there is such a thing as knowledge that accumulates, then the older, more experienced person knows more. To pretend that he does not know is disingenuous. I suppose they can be equal on the field of questions. We can always question what we think we know. To examine what justifications we use, what we use collectively, conventionally, so that we can find new ways to agree. And agree with nature..
there is also another knowledge hierarchy where one who knows least knows most.
@@skyler8perkins Could we say: "There is equality in essence and hierarchy in function." However to understand these terms essence, equality or sameness, hierarchy and function, we may have to read something like John G. Bennett's The Dramatic Universe vol.1-4. He endeavors to understand the Whole and within the non-relative Whole that includes the relative wholes. He shows how will, being and function can be reconciled. For a less formal treatment check out JGB's book "Deeper Man" His treatment of will is unparalleled.
Knowledge by not knowing.
Why should you create a game of 'buying potatoes'? I understand this is better than blind obedience, rote learning. But, better than your idea is to go to the shops and buy some real potatoes. Why not use reality as a school? Why separate, when you spoke so fondly of 'participation'..?