See Thru Intercooler In Slow Motion - (Dyno Run High Boost)
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2022
- I'm back with the Supra and the see-through intercooler, this time to do a higher boost test and get the car on the dyno, after I reinforce the intercooler since in the previous video it blew up.
I also feed the intercooler some fog through the air filter and through the turbo and film it with the high-speed camera in slow motion to allow us to see the flow patterns and how the air distributes in the intercooler.
then I go ahead and start cranking up the boost to see how much pressure the intercooler can actually hold.
Definitely a little different than I thought it was going to be, I always thought that the air mostly flowed in the lower half of the intercooler but as you can see in the video due to the static pressure resistance and air taking the easiest path it seems to even out over the entire length of the intercooler.
it was also really cool to see how well the intercooler worked at cooling that air beyond what I ever thought.
here's a link to the first video:
See Thru Intercooler Part 1: • See Thru Intercooler
Thanks to AMS Performance for all there help and being super cool and professional.
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Watch this in 4k when possible, it looks incredibly awesome !
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How are 15PSI a 1000 pounds of force? You one of the guys that believe you need bigger brakes when you mount bigger wheels on a car?
15 PSI = 15 Pounds per Square Inch. 5 in wide x 16 in High = 80 square Inches. 15 Pounds x 80 Square inches = 1200 Pounds of static force or load pushing on each one of those walls. If you put larger wheels yes you should have larger brakes, if you put a larger rim and a shorter tire to equal the same circumference as the original wheel then you don't. But most cars need bigger brakes anyway.
@@WarpedPerception Yeah I figured. Btw: have you heard about the "gas doubler"? A small compressor that you can put in between the fuel nozzle and the tank. It compresses the fuel and increases the volume and the distance you can travel that way. Awesome device. Everyone should have one, especially people that use turbochargers. Can optionally be ordered with an integrated fuel pump.
@@fugelkusch3722 wtf?
Could you help me how to learn and put a turbocharger in a car from zero, please
@@Khaled.N.Omar01 Buy car, buy turbo, put in car. Done
No but seriously, tonnes of research before even buy a kit
Google is your friend
Enjoyed every minute of it!! Great intercooler build and great idea on using the fog!
I agree!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah cause you watched a 30 minutes vid within 18mina
@@justsean6199 ???
@@MrWip3out I think @projectfarm was referring to WP also @JustSean was also referring to WP for the same reason no-nonsense straight to the point and heavy editing to cut out all the bull. correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I took it.
@@BendingPhysics Most likely as well yeah!
And for the people who said in the last video an intercooler doesn’t Do anything. You can clearly see how the temp differs on each side.
intercoolers can make a massive difference
Intercoolers definitely make a difference. This intercooler core is massive and will bring the temps down to ambient or below.
Using an intercooler optimizer (external sprayer with alcohol & water), it will get well below ambient temps.
Turbochargers with intercooling systems were proven tech in WW2. People are dumb. Especially in light of the fact that virtually unlimited information is keystrokes away.
Good job comment section warrior 🫡
@@jesvans derr ya think
TOO MUCH FUN!! 👍
Knowing how an intercooler works is one thing. Visualizing it with the see-through tanks and seeing the temperature reduction quantifies it. Not to mention stress testing via different boost loads. Confirms there's much more to it than just meets the eye.
It'd be COOL to obtain temperature variances and differentiations in daily driving conditions.
Even so, really cool couple of vlogs about intercoolers.
Your creative thinking is fantastic! Then to transfer it to practical material form is icing on the cake!
KUDOS!!
The temp drop was way more than I expected!! Very cool idea, and a solid test all around!!
I get more impressed with this channel everytime you make a see thru video, please don't stop making such amazing content we really love watching them.
Thank you for uploading this video. I always wondered how an intercooler worked. I had a Volvo S70 TDI as that'd an intercooler the size of the radiator itself and a massive turbo from stock so no wonder it pulled the way it did. Also explains why cars runs better in winter than summer. 👍
170hp craziness lol
@@Sebbe40 1998 S70 TDI only had 145 hp. At least in Scotland but had plenty Low down torque already at 1200 rpm hahaha
as a guy who lives near the equator, a shitbox runs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better at cold nights
it also explains why i see more tuner cars run at midnight, colder air and less traffic
That’s all cars or anything internal combustion will run better when it’s cooler and with more dense air
Used AMS parts in the past whilst working as a powertrain engineer developing motorsport engines in the UK, they are a stunning company with superb knowledge and products. Thanks for the video
What a great idea and a great way to test what is happening inside the intercooler. Loved watching this crazyness!!! Nice work!
that's really cool! I love how it comes in and fills up the top because heat rises, and then comes pouring out the cool side like a waterfall!
@sourand jaded Thank you. I was going to say the same thing.
Very interesting to see the flow pattern in the cold side tank, shows you exactly why manufacturers taper the tank. Awesome test!
thank you for showing the temp difference between air going in the intercooler to going out.
it shows how intercooler doing great job and that without air blowing directly into it.
just imagine when running on track or street the difference would be much significant.
Love your videos, been watching for 3 years ❤️
Hahaha, I knew you'd blow it up!
With so much air flowing through an intercooler so quickly it's surprising how well it can cool the air down.
from 90c to 23c, man that's a LOT of heat being rejected!
i always woundered what kind of tempertures was going through to thing. kinda crazy to me
17.6 kW if my calculations are right. Almost 25 horsepower.
You can get the same effect using meth injection without any cooler
@@MaNNeRz91 Yeah but who wants to deal with that
@@savage101. Anyone who doesn't want an intercooler and wants more hp because they can't cool down the air enough ... 🤔🤔
You're awesome man, always thinking way outside the box of ordinary life. Love love love your content brother your brilliant.
This is the only youtuber who actually listens to his fans ideas. I love it 👍
really cool to see!
regarding the temperature delta: it would be really interesting to have measurements over a longer timespan. the intercooler is a heatsink itself after all, so the massive delta could be due to the intercooler not being at "working temperature".
also: _is that a supra?_
Interesting how even the flow is in the tanks.
An intercooler will indeed heatsoak over time
we endurancce race a Subaru WRX. Yeah, heat soak is real and there are ways to minimize it, but the IC has to get a delta T across it to transfer heat, so it's somewhat unavoidable. Subaru uses a water sprayer like for winshield squirters and a timer that sprays the IC for about 10 seconds. That evaporative cooling is good for 20-30 hp for about 30 seconds. Nuce push-to-pass button, though!
@@webb4252 Boost is rarely constant. The IC will cool down between hard boost runs.
It will reach somewhat of an average but is constantly shedding heat.
As Josh said, an IC optimizer with water and alcohol will significantly lower temps of a "heat-soaked" core.
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The dynamics of the ‘fog’ also shows why more developed end tanks are beneficial in directing airflow across the entire core as well as directing it from the core, thru the tank, and into the subsequent piping.
Absolutely! I would also be curious to see if keeping the same end tanks (or even smaller ones to allow for a larger heat exchanging area), but changing the cross section of each vane so they are smaller at the inlet and increase at a proportionate amount the further you get away from it. Or even easier (for visualization) would be to have the inlet and outlet at opposing heights (i.e, top and bottom). It's all moot, as the temps alone showed massive improvements as is... any better gains would be miniscule in comparison.
I like how you can see that stagnant air up in the top corners makes exactly the shape of a regular intercooler. They know what they are doing when they make those.
That's the coolest visual concept ever..I really enjoyed viewing this..!!
I think that the smoke pattern shows perfectly the problem with having the inlet and outlet directly across from each other and not offset. You can see that the top of the radiator does get some airflow, but it only gets any airflow because the shortest path is making too much resistance, and you can watch as the smoke pulls through the top half a lot more slowly. A simple radiator design such as that commonly has the inlets and outlets offset in order to alleviate this, and make more efficient use of the whole radiator. Some of the more advanced designs I've seen also section out the airflow into three or four segments before it gets to the fin stacks, which I imagine also works pretty well for flow distribution.
But at the end of the day, the tempurature tests certainly show that optimizing the flow pattern within a radiator isn't necessary to have a *functional* radiator, and that radiator certainly pulled some weight when it came to cooling. To be expected, given how thick it is.
That is literally the only and the exact reason why I went through all of the trouble of building it and filming the video, I have been wondering this forever. Every front mount intercooler that I can remember that I have installed had the inlet and outlet right across from one another, and the rest of the inner cooler would stretch out in One direction, I always thought how much air is actually going through that top portion especially under higher boost and higher velocities. My goal in this video was to do a higher pressure test like 15 20 psi with the fog, but it failed prematurely and that's okay, I may come back with a bigger better intercooler to run some big boost but I'm not 100% sure it's worth it... Thanks for the awesome comment insight and information!
@@WarpedPerception Is it really that common in automotive? My background is in IT, and a lot of my knowledge here comes from interpreting off a mix of that and a basic understanding of thermal and flow physics. Most PC watercooling radiators are split units so that the inlets and outlets are on the same side, but the few radiators with a straight through design I've seen are all offset as I mentioned. I suppose, in the PC world, a radiator design like that doesn't introduce enough resistance to the flow rate to force flow in what would otherwise be a dead zone, and the performance impact is a lot more noticeable.
Well designed ICs have a number of techniques to balance the airflow across each channel of the IC core.
The most notable is curving the end tanks in towards the core the further it is away from the inlet/outlet. This speeds up the flow and should get rid of the still / turbulent flow in those areas.
Corky Bell wrote a great book on turbocharging. Explains much of this and more in the Intercooler section.
I'm doing aeronautical engineering and I'm developing potential sidepods for a Formula Student car and I've been messing around with cfd, trying to optimise the airflow and what you just said was the first thing I thought of when I saw the intercooler.
Cool video as always. You had a pretty big boost leak on the lower part of the inlet tank made visible by the smoke
Great show, loved the fusion 360 and the waterjet. Very talented
Use UV dye in the fluid,and UV lights,you could get more visual intensity/contrast on the flow i think.
The camber on your front end is no good,like the rebound,the car seems bumpy.
tHe cAmBeR oN yOur fRoNt End......dude shut up lmao
@sourand jaded it's very hard to kill that 2j
I owned this car. Bought it brand new in 1997 ... and had a Front Mount IC ... I would never have believed it dropped the temp that much dynamically (in motion) ... let alone, static.
Love seeing this and how the fog illustrated the flow (in slo mo) especially as the boost dropped off. I wonder if it would even be worth running the hot air in at the top part of the cooler but leave the exit at the bottom where it currently is. Not sure that would make a difference in cooling but be interesting to see/measure.
Cool stuff. Love your builds and experiments!
So intriguing. Glad you were able to get everything to work
Next test should be with different end tank designs, to see if you can achieve a better distribution of air through the intercooler core. you could try different designs, some with diverter plates inside, or even vertical flow intercooler would be interesting to see. Overall great content!
The end tank design on intercooler is split, so it uses the whole intercooler not just the path of least resistance. This test didn't prove anything.
@@russiancommy this definitely showed the path of least resistance by a heavy fog straight through and a lighter fog along the top
@@russiancommy just what are you wanting proved?
It was an observation not some new design proving ground design for the new and improved cooler. Y'all weird always the same with your generation ( prove this, validate from Google please, or internet says different. I'm going to think about it. Y'all really weird
@@jasonmorris2813 says "y'all" and talks about generational difference, stick with it bud.
@@russiancommy best comeback ever! damn, you sure told him!
That was amazing! What else would be cool to see is how fast the fog moves thru the pipes at idle veruses boost? Does air flow moved slower under boost?
Just the engine RPM will affect airflow velocity I'd think. Like 2000cc engine will move 2L of gas per cycle. Boost will affect air density but not velocity.
‘We’re gonna test that’; ‘very impressive’. I believe @Project Farm approves. It’s great when one engineer applauds the work of another. Thanks guys. 👊
Dude... you are simply amazing! Thanks for your great content!
Very interesting stuff.
I always worried that inlet/outlet location might make intercoolers basically only use part of the surface area. But the fog really shows it uses the whole area nicely.
Fun build and test!
Thanks, that is the one and only reason I even did this test in the first place, I was curious about the exact same thing
i suggest make a temperature reading before and after the intercooler.
Brilliant! Glad you did this for science and motorheads
I always get hype when I see you on my recommendation
What a poor design these intercoolers are.. you can see the poor distribution of airflow between entrance and exit quite clearly with smoke
What brand do you recommend then ?.
@MDEV-86x86 I don't recommend any. I'm just saying from an outsider standpoint that the airflow is poor.
If your forcing an answer from me then I'd say something along tesla.'s design with laminar flow characteristics. Tesla turbine
You have no idea what you're talking about. Garrett intercooler cores are amongst the best in the industry. I'm sure you know better than a multi-billion dollar company.
This is why engineers do the MATH FIRST....
To keep people from dying...
Makes perfect sense, I did the math, and nobody died!
@@WarpedPerception yet it still broke
That was fricken cool! Seeing the temperature difference was outstanding.
Man I love your videos! You can see the boost lag with how long that smoke takes to cross. Freaking awesome!
Great content! You always find a way to create something that's both informative and entertaining.
Way to go Matt. Another great exploration in video science.
Amazing job. I was always curious about the performance of intercoolers . it is amazing work your hve done. Thanks
One of the best presentations
This is one of the best videos I've seen on intercooler flow! Great job!
enjoyed the video i was thinking thermodynamics and fluidmechanics all the way from the start till the very last second
great content
The smoke really shows the leeks in the intercooler that you might not ever know about. Really cool 👍
OMG it must be sooooo Much fun having all these toys (tools) and do this stuff , u got the life bud , great video!
The Best experiment in the whole world. It's Amazing!!!
Thank you for showing the temps. Awesome 👏
Wonderful hands you’ve got there, Sir.
Wow I was very surprised how slow the air velocity was on low boost. Also cool to see the air flow. Matches the curves on a lot of intercooler end tanks. Sheesh that intercooler does work. 130F difference without even a fan on it! Really cool video.
Had to edit this one for some bizarre spelling and grammar so I lost my heart, haha.
This is amazing ❤️, especially when i requested this video in the previous video
Literally my dream car and you're just fucking around with it.
Thanks for doing this Gentleman. This is awesome.
That music makes it feel like a fusion reaction engine cooler and not just a mere intercooler.
Lol...
That was awesome! There is a huge difference
Really cool! Facinating to see the air restriction and how the smoke stays in the upper part of the outlet a little while before it clears up!
Very cool 👍 The see through experiments are the best in my opinion.
That is a great visual on why the ports need to be on opposite corners. You can really see the lag in the dead zones. Nice vid :o)
Cool test and it shows the importance of an intercooler
I am surprised it held together as long as it did. very informative.
Dude, your skills and knowledge are amazing. Well done.!
Thank you.. it was a painful painful learning process.
I love seeing how things work, nice video :)
Another interesting video! Love the content you post for us to see.
Thanks for doing that video. Pretty cool to see the temperature gradient betwixt hot/cold sides of the IC. Brings back many memories from the 1990's. Didn't realize just how profound an era that was, until compared to some of this stuff that's rolling off of today's production lines. Some current production setups are interesting - particularly the 2022 Toyota Tundra (V6 twin-turbo). That's damn near guaranteed to be a tuner's wet-dream in a few short years.
It's pretty cool to be able to see the density difference between the hot and cold side
This is the R&D that the community NEEDS!!!
1st, your street car is on a other level. ( appreciate you being humble about it )
2nd, thanks for sacrificing your daily for our entertainment.
3rd, I know there was a lot more going on than a Dyno run @4,000 and safe fake smoke. Tons of work went into this video, thank you.
Good job solving pressure issue, then you went kill mode!!
Thanks! Well it's not my daily anymore, I have a Tesla now that's continuously broken down, it's a project car for this channel which is why it's my daily now. Oh yeah it was a bit of a challenge to get this to fit up perfectly. I definitely wanted to push it further and I might come back in the future with something a little different where I can run some serious boost.. and top out at about 32 to 33 PSI. Thanks!!
Love this video and the time you took to make everything fit and working....consider me now educated.
This Video is great, it shows how an intercooler works. Very nice Supra!
Nice! I fabricated for AMS from 04' to 07'. Had a lot of fun working for Martin and Arne
Keep doing crazy stuff and I keep my thumps up👍
awesome content, always like seeing new posts!
Very cool experiment!!! Keep up the good work homie...btw beautiful car!!!
Great way to find leaks. Thanks.
Absolutely fascinating!!! Good idea for helping to design a better intercooler end tank design!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Also great to see how the air (fog) seems to spread evenly throughout the volumes as the hoses are at equal height. Nice experiment and thanks for sharing!
Amazing engineering sir, always like watching you build unreal things
really cool to see air moving left to right in slow motion
I well enjoyed the video bro keep it up ❤😅
Grate intercooler build 😉
Great experiment in intercooling see through.
Enjoying your video on my couch with popcorn. Love from India.
interesting slow mo shots you can see some of the blowby going on on the Left side (our left) of the intercooler. pretty awesome.
Appreciate the effort.
Worth a watch.
Great test and demo. Thanks bro!
This was really dope to see
This is what i always wanted to know. Thank you very much ❤️❤️
you are the man. good video as allways!
Awesome video! Neat seeing the end tanks function. For the temp split you need to run sustained power. I've seen 150°F split, with the Greddy 3 row STILL achieving ambient outlet temps at the top end of a 5th gear Dyno pull at 25psi - of course with a fan on the turbo filters and intercooler, like it would be on the road. Pretty impressive! At that point: you can begin to see where you are laying on the turbos efficiency chart. As the boost and power go up: the temp spike begins to really spike. That's where the intercooler comes in and does it's job to combat that high IAT.
Thank you 4 the video !!! ! !!! 😀Greettings from old Eu 🙂
Crazy!!! Love your energy!!
Damn. I would love to have all that time to do all kinds of crazy stuff. Best wishes for you brother.
Man another awesome video!!! I dream of having a Toyota Supra one day!!!!
Hell yeah thats awesome!
I've been thinking of making a see through shaker hood scoop for the intercooler on my wrx 🤣
Good illustration of why a cross flow intercooler is a better idea. The top portion is the last to get the vapor and the last to clear the vapor because there is little flow up there since the inlet/outlet are on the bottom.
I didn't realize how much I needed to see this until I saw this.
Man that’s cool to see. Solid video.
It was great to see how air comes in and out the tanks. Now the taper tanks makes so much sense. Also you showed what Garret cores are capable of
That's the same thing I was thinking, you can see how the air takes like a tapered form. That's one of the reasons I made the tanks square, I wanted to see what shape the air flow took on.
Yeah the intercooler core really chilled that air... I was very impressed by that.
@@WarpedPerception what was the ambient temp in that room?
@@gpgt89 great question, I should have said that in the video, it was around 68° f. I forgot that, I forgot the thermal camera, and I forgot to show all of the damage that was done to the tank...lol
.. oops
Cool to see stuff work!