Appreciate the instructional video. Just installed a PBR400X4D on a 2015 Road Glide Special and, other than not needing the remote wire, your instructions were perfect! Have not done the flash yet and not sure I need too. Sounds great.
Great! Thanks for the feedback. YOu'll definitely want to flash the factory radio because with anything more than 50 watts, we have seen fanatics blow their speakers. Keep the radio 3 bars from max output to prevent sending down a clipped signal.
My 2017 SGS had a great stereo, not sure if it was the fairing but my 2020 RGS radio blows. I bought a 9” Windshield but I doubt that does much. I heard a 14” windshield helps a lot with hearing the stereo.
I got a used 2018 road glide special, it has Rockford front speakers and soundigital 4ch amp.. I am having issues with the Treble being just obnoxious and ear piercing even with Treble down all the way on the GT6.5. It's annoying and I thought it'd sound way better than it does
These are our 1st generation video tutorials. We've improved the instructions on our 3rd generation kits. The equivalent for this video is available here: czcams.com/video/ver-2yx7PV0/video.html
Which harness are you referring to, the amplifier outputs? If the wire popped out of the socket, you can slightly tweak the tiny catch prongs on either side and reinsert it into the molex connector. If you're having issues with an intermittent connector that can't be fixed, give our customer support a call on Monday at 1-800-669-9899.
Hi Mathew, if by initial adjustments, you mean "out of the box," definitely no! If the amplifier was never setup, yes, it will need to come out to be adjusted. The good news is 2015 and newer fairings are very easy to remove and re-install versus pre-2014 models. The amplifier slides out easy after removing those 2 nuts/bolts. You can download the FREE Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355 FYI ... I just realized we're discussing the HD14-TKIT which has been retired. Our newer versions feature an easier to install T-harness that supports fader control and are available here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/motorcycle-kits/
Great question Bob, we do recommend keeping the Bass & Treble controls to MIN, especially if you're on the highway running full output. However, if you're just milling around town or in the garage with the volume at a low to medium level, you can safely use them up a little without harm.
Great question David, these are the install times we suggest dealers target these times: > HD14-TKIT (Street Glide) 3 hours > HD14-TKIT (Road Glide) 2 hours > TMS69BL14 (Bag Lids) 1-1/2 hours
I have the Sony XAV-AX100 headunit and your front speaker & amp kit. Will I need to do anything differently and if I had rear lid speakers later should the channel be switch to 4?
Yes, if you use all four outputs of the source unit, keep the amplifier input switch in 4-channel. We would recommend using the speaker line outputs versus any RCA outputs from the radio for the input of the amplifier due to better signal integrity. We would also recommend using the CLEAN setup on the amplifier for determining the input level from the radio and setting the gain for the amplifier outputs. You can read more about CLEAN and download the 1kHz track here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1126
@@dirtym4702, You're welcome. If you run into any issues with the gain setup, feel free to contact our technical support at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8-5 MST.
Nice Abraham! If you need to clarify anything on the installation, our support staff is here to help at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8-5pm PST. The brand of seat is a Perowitz.
Update, Got my system installed and it rocks. The funny thing is I’ve been a kicker dealer for over 12 years and have always ran kicker on my bikes. A customer came in with a full Rockford Harley sound system, @ that point I knew I had to have it. Best out of the box system money can buy. I’ll have to call the your customer help line in the morning due to a turn on pop I have every time. Once again great system.
Hi Abraham, thank you for trusting Rockford Fosgate with the audio on your bike. The turn-on pop is caused by the radio flash since the radio is "looking" for the factory amplifier. We can provide you with a delay that will fix it. When you contact our technical support (1-800-669-9899) ask for Brian, as he can run down the newer amp settings we have and the turn-on delay option.
Hi Eric, this kit has been replaced with several variations available below. However, if you just have a pair of speakers in the upper fairing, there's actually no need to add a 2nd amplifier because the TM400X4ad is a monster amp with plenty of power. You can simply bridge the rear output to a 4-ohm load and it will run a subwoofer no problem. Here's the link to our current Motorcycle Audio Kits: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/motorcycle-kits/
I"m confused. Three months ago you said no need to flash the '19 but now say it is needed. The closest shop to me is over two hours away. How imperative is it to flash? What are the benefits to flashing mine and what are the drawbacks? Is this something I can do later when I have time to take to the shop?
Yes, we apologize for that miscommunication as we were relaying the latest info from our New Product Development group. They did change their position based on long term testing of the GTS radio (we actually got into a heated discussion about the change.) The reason for flashing is covered in our Product Advisory (rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215). The Factory EQ used is over +28 dB at 100Hz. That's an insane amount of gain for anything, especially considering doubling your output requires +10 dB of gain, so in reality you're trying to quadruple your output, but we're also adding much more power to the system. We literally just did a dealer training with a new 2019 Road Glide and a GTS radio. There was a clear sound quality difference between flashing and not flashing the radio, especially using our new "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash. We have nothing but positive feedback on the new flash, as it provides much better low-end response than the previous flash.
Installed this kit, both front and rear kits. Sounds great. I did have the radio flashed before reading the comments here as I was following the instructions included and in this video. I have a 2019 Road Glide Special, which includes the Boom GTS radio. I see in some comments now that I did not need a flash. Do I need to get this thing flashed back to stock? I'm not sure what settings they used when they flashed at the dealer. May want to update the instructions and this video with this info, as well as the input level settings outlined below for Front / Rear on the GTS Radio
Thank you Art for your purchase and feedback. Preliminary feedback was no because the software was faster, but after doing much research, we released our official data sheet with YES, it DOES need to be flashed. Here is the official Tuning Guide I created: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
No, these feature our Gen-1 product line. Our current Gen-2 product line for 2014 and newer Road Glide models are available here: Harley 2014+ Playlist: czcams.com/video/zZu2hxsdces/video.html
I’m looking at ordering this kit for one of my winter projects I just want to confirm that for my 2020 RGS running the new BOOM GTS radio that I don’t have to have my radio flashed with this system?
Hi Swintnation, The HD14-TKIT was replaced by the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 and STAGE3 systems (links below). The new 2020 Boom! GTS radio needs to be flashed because it has the same Excessive Bass EQ issue that needs to be flattened. Don't worry, our "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ Bikes" flash fixes the EQ and gives it a better response for the lower end. HD14RGSG-STAGE2 (fronts & amplifier) www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage2/ HD14RGSG-STAGE3 (fronts, saddlebag & amplifier) www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage3/
Hi @@mathewshackelford8037, YES, the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 & STAGE3 above are compatible with BOOM AUDIO GTS radios (GTS radio MUST be use our "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash) and fits the following models: 2015-current Harley-Davidson® FLTRX Road Glide® 2015-current Harley-Davidson® FLTRXS Road Glide® Special 2014-current Harley-Davidson® FLHX Street Glide® 2014-current Harley-Davidson® FLHXS Street Glide® Special
For a 17 Milwaukee 8, does the radio still need flashed, and also, can I use the supplied rear wires to connect lower fairing speakers since I have no rear ones?
Hi Dwayne, all radios 2004 and newer need to be flashed. Yes, if the lowers do not have the intercooler, you can use those TourPak speaker wires to power lowers. We tap into the radio's output at the TourPak location. We run it back to the input of the amplifier, then back out.
I'm installing the speakers but not the amp, guessing I need to disconnect the neg battery terminal before anything else... Doesn't show that you guys did that in the video, or is it really nessesary when just replacing the speakers??
These are our 1st generation video tutorials. We've improved the instructions on our 3rd generation kits. The equivalent for this video is available here: czcams.com/video/ver-2yx7PV0/video.html
I have a 2016 Road Glide, I just ordered this kit and your kit for the bag lid speakers as well. Do you know the proper amplifier settings for both kits installed on the bike?
Yes, we just revised them so I need to publish them to the website. If you email me at ce@rockfordcorp.com I'll email you the new settings. Since it's a 16 model, do you have the factory radio? If so, you'll need to get the radio flashed.
Hello I have the Fosgate front kit with amp and bag speakers with drs1 16 road glide. My question is should I get the radio flash at the dealer or let it ride how it is? Thanks
You're going to get different answers to this question, especially on forums which that take a different stance on this. However, our official take is YES, Rockford Fosgate recommends to have the radio flashed to the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes Flash" to flatten the EQ, then use the DSR1 to enhance the sonic profile. The reason is because it requires so much EQ work to simply "flatten" the curve from the Harley-Davidson profile. Most people don't have that amount of time, patience, and equipment to measure the frequency response in between tunings. We feel it's much more attainable to flatten the curve using the flash, then using the DSR1 to tweak everything into place.
Thanks for the response. Is there a recommendation setting for the amp gains? I also read the Fosgate amp recognize the fade from front to rear after the flash. Is this true?
@@ChevyBuz2 Yes, there are very specific settings for the amplifier that can be downloaded below. Yes, the Rockford Fosgate flash enables the front/rear fader and the speed sense volume control. On your 2016 Road Glide I would definitely suggest getting the radio flash. It has +28 dB of gain at 100 Hz, which is 5x more than what is possible with the DSR1, so your speakers will be hanging on for dear life if it's turned up at all. Here's that Amp Tuning Guide : rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
Yes, there is a new flash update for 2019 models that will be released in the coming weeks from our partner Techno-Research (producer of the flashing hardware.)
I had this install done by local Rockford Fosgate Authorized Dealer, I see you mention the remote wire connection which tells the Amplifier when power is on to the motorcycle. My issue is that when the amplifier is on and I crank over the bike I get a significant noise that sounds like it could possibly blow a speaker or even an amp it is not a dot dot dot which many shops claim is normal on a Harley, I look at many other installs and I do not hear such a noise can you advise please. I had the saddle bag kit installed also and repeated the 6.5 speakers on a set of lowers.
I get the same sound when I turn the bike on. I had my Harley Dealership flash the radio and the went to a 4 speaker no amp setting. Is that correct? I thought an 8 speaker and 2 amp setting was the way to go?! It sounded better without the flash. Any suggestions? I live in Windsor, On Canada. By Detroit.
phil giordano, We recommended "2-Speakers Upper Fairing - 1 Amp". If all you do is listen to the radio in the parking lot, then the flash isn't for you. However, if you're adding anything over a 50 watt amp and listening to it medium-to-loud on the road or highway, this will save your speakers. Here is a graph of the factory EQ that we're suggesting to remove: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215 The turn-on noise is the radio looking for the amplifier, which isn't used. If you feel the pop is too excessive, you can contact our technical support and they can help you with a turn-on delay at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri. 8 am - 5 pm MST.
So 2 speakers upper fairing-1Amp. I am using the entire RF front (Upper Fairing and saddle bag speakers) with the AMP supplied by RF. I will see if they can reconfigure the settings to 2 speakers upper fairing and 1AMP. Thanks
Hi Kevin, Yes, we do make speakers specific for 2008 Street Glide models. You can find info on those models below as they are custom frequency response tailored to overcome wind, road, and exhaust noise on a factory equipped H-D: > TMS6SG - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms6sg/ If you're looking to amplify the system so you can hear your music on the highway, we would recommend the speaker & amp kit: > HD9813SG-TKIT - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms6sg/ You can see how the HD9813SG-TKIT kit gets installed here: > 1998-2013 Street Glide® Front Speaker & Amp Install czcams.com/video/qnUaUCqBai0/video.html
Thank you for the instructions. I just had a Tour Pack with rear speakers installed on my road glide and this included flashing the radio so that 4 channels are available. Do you know if that flash is the same as the one you're recommending?
Hi Alex, thanks for upgrading with Rockford Fosgate. There are about a dozen flash settings available. Check with your installer, because we recommend "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" which is sometimes referred to as "The Rockford Flash".
@@rockfordfosgate So, this guide is a bit outdated for 2020. The Amp kit RFK-HD14 doesn't have the wires that plug into the speakers. Instead, it comes with a large harness that plugs into the Head unit, it extends to the previous plug that connected the Head unit, and has wires for amp input and output. Essentially the new harness allows being a passthrough of the signal that gets amplified but reuses the original wires for the speakers. Also, to note, the box has the bracket all the way at the bottom behind a carton and I almost thought it was not included in the box.
@@DveGitari This is our 1st Generation instruction video. I'm not sure what kit you actually have, but all our 2nd Generation videos are available here that use the RFK-HD14 amp wiring kit: czcams.com/video/41Hedt2VL18/video.html
@@rockfordfosgate Thanks. I think I skimmed through the video and didn't find it as good as the previous one. Didn't know there was a difference. Thanks for clarifying.
So I have this kit, can I hook up two amps to the stock head unit cause I added lowers and the lids so I am trying to run 6 speakers off that amp. Should it be able to push them all?
Hey Studio Ward! Yes, the 1st generation HD14-TKIT comes with the TM00X4ad amplifier, which is powerful enough for a full 8-speaker system. We did several 6 and 8 speaker installs using that 1 amp at Sturgis and it easily ran all speakers. I typically see around 580W total power output on those birth sheets, so don't let the 400W "rating" fool you. If you have any questions, you can reply to this thread. Also, be sure to download the latest Amp Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
@@rockfordfosgate yeah. Mine is at 614. You don't use the EQ according to that download, is that right? I had it flashed but but it doesn't seem as loud now. So I have two channels running the front 4 speakers and 2 channels running the rear lids. Should both rears and front be set to High Pass? I guess it does say HP. Car Toys set it to All pass before I added the lowers and the bags, and it is still set to all pass.
@@studioward9416 That is correct, the EQ is not used on the amplifier for this type of installation since the amount of power this amplifier generates will damage the speakers at high volumes using EQ. Yes, both front/rear should be set to HP and the crossover set to 80 Hz as shown in the setup sheet. I'm hoping Car Toys used the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash, because that provides the best overall performance -to- loudness ratio. In fact it should be screaming loud!
@@rockfordfosgate car toys didn't have the ability to flash. There's only one car toys in the area that even does bikes. I think he bypassed it somehow. There is a clear plastic, like triangle wire box with wires in it that he velcro to the under side of the amp with 2 RCA's on it. I had it flashed later by an independent company, but seemed to lose more sound after that.
@@studioward9416 Wondering if they installed the famous "line leveler" in lieu of flashing. This is a DIY trick for many that don't/can't flash ... it works to some degree but has some issues with frequency response. If it was flashed later by an independent dealer (and the box is still installed) that could be the problem of your low output. When the radio is properly flashed, there is no reason for any additional components. If you can determine that box is some sort of hi-low adaptor or "line leveler", then take it off and run the signal straight into the amplifier inputs.
That's great Ricky! The bars are 14" by Factory 47. Just a reminder to get the radio flashed if it's 2014 or newer so you don't blow out those new speakers. Here's the info on the Radio Flash: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215
Yes Wayne, the kit includes the amp along with these items: (2) TMS65 Speakers (2) 2014+ Street Glide Grilles (2) 2015+ Road Glide Grilles (2) 2014+ Tour-Pak Grilles (1) TM400X4ad Amplifier (1) RFKHD Amp Wiring Kit w/ Brackets (1) Hardware Pack The full details are available at: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14-tkit/
Hi Ryan, the TMS6 speakers are specially designed and have very different frequency response goals over the T3 models. The TMS6 have a higher sensitivity and are frequency response tailored for "open air" motorcycle audio use. Drew, our loudspeaker engineer that designed the T3 speakers, specifically designed the TMS speakers to accommodate exhaust, tire, and wind noise. He did this by measuring the frequency response of a factory equipped Street Glide on Arizona Highways up to 75 MPH. He then custom tailored the frequency response so you could actually hear the music in these conditions. If you are listening to music in a parking lot, use the T3 models, but if you're listening to music while riding the motorcycle, use the TMS speakers.
Just so I am clear, do I contact my local Harley dealer or a Rockford Fosgate dealer for the flash? Also an estimate for price of flash if you have one. I have speakers but buying amp soon. 2015 RG Ultra. Thanks
Hi Faiz, you need to find a dealer that has a Techno Research flasher, which can be an independent RF dealer or your local H-D dealer. We have a list of dealers that have this type of flasher here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
@@rockfordfosgate Could you also recommend which amp and install kit? My setup is tms65 fairing speakers and tms69bl14 in saddlebags and I will not be adding any more speakers. Thanks again
@@crawl994 Normally, we would recommend the HD14U-STAGE2 (rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14u-stage2/) although it comes with a pair of speakers for the front fairing and TourPak. If you just wanted the amplifier and wiring, I would suggest purchasing the RFK-HD14 and TM400X4ad separately. The amplifier is designed to run a full 8-speaker system, so the saddlebag speakers and front fairing speakers will be powered easily. Forgot to mention, nearly all dealers include the flash free if you purchase the product from them. Otherwise I've heard dealers charging $100-$300 if the customer brings the product to them.
Just ordered the RF kid for my 2019 Road Glide Special. Ordered the amp/front speakers kit and also the bag lid kit. Since there aren’t any Rockford dealers near me which flash from Harley is recommended for the Boom GTS radio?
Hi Tailgunner, if you have the Boom GTS radio (not the GT) then you don't need to flash the radio. The software and DSP processing is much, much faster and accurate.
Rockford Fosgate Well that’s Great News! So now, just waiting on my “ROCK”ford Fosgate system to arrive and do the install. I assume the same RF Amp settings remain as per video instruction as well?
@@tailgunnerdenis3331 Good point... the gains need to be tweaked as indicated below: - FRONT INPUT LEVEL: 09:00 - 09:45 o'clock position - REAR INPUT LEVEL: 09:15 - 09:45 o'clock position The remaining controls follow the video.
Rockford Fosgate Thx guys. So I just received both RF kits. Top quality I must say... won’t be able to install for about a month (out of country travel) but excited to get it done. Quick question...would the 2019 GTS Boom head unit benefit from a line level prior to amp signal to deliver a closer to flat signal? Or does the GTS not require such. Thx again for all your great support.
@@tailgunnerdenis3331 The GTS radio does not need a line leveler, but it sounds like someone on a forum is trying to convince you otherwise. After analyzing the GTS radio, it appears the DSP compressor is functioning as it should due to the faster radio software. Therefore, we don't feel adding line levelers are needed on the GTS. Safe travels.
Yes, actually they are amazing. We understand most fanatics don't purchase audio systems by what they sound like over the internet, since imaging and clarity cannot be conveyed on a mobile device. We encourage you to stop by a Rockford Fosgate Motorcycle Audio dealer and hear for yourself.
Here are a couple dealers, 1 in Atlanta and 2 in Marietta. Call for product availability in case they need to special order: CARTUNES OF ATLANTA 8601 Roswell Rd. Atlanta, Georgia 30350 404.256.5600 MONSTER CUSTOMS LLC 483 Commerce Park Dr. Suite-C Marietta, Georgia 30060 770.420.0002 www.monstercustomsatlanta.com SOUND SENSATIONS 337 Cobb Parkway South Marietta, Georgia 30060 770.429.1600 soundsensationsauto.com/
You can tell the younger guy is trained by the older guy because he copies his same cadence in his speech and just mannerisms and everything. Its funny.
Hello I have the Fosgate front kit with amp and bag speakers with drs1 16 road glide. My question is should I get the radio flash at the dealer or let it ride how it is? Thanks
Hi Jimmy, sorry we didn't see this comment earlier. Yes, Rockford Fosgate recommends to flash the radio because the built-in EQ has a massive boost at 100 Hz (+28 dB) which is extremely difficult to flatten with a DSP.
You guys forgot to play it to show how much better it sounded!
Appreciate the instructional video. Just installed a PBR400X4D on a 2015 Road Glide Special and, other than not needing the remote wire, your instructions were perfect! Have not done the flash yet and not sure I need too. Sounds great.
Great! Thanks for the feedback. YOu'll definitely want to flash the factory radio because with anything more than 50 watts, we have seen fanatics blow their speakers. Keep the radio 3 bars from max output to prevent sending down a clipped signal.
AWSOME video
Getting mine installed as we speak 19rgs im so excited
Keith Sweat how do you like it brother? And what did it run you installed?
My 2017 SGS had a great stereo, not sure if it was the fairing but my 2020 RGS radio blows. I bought a 9” Windshield but I doubt that does much. I heard a 14” windshield helps a lot with hearing the stereo.
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I got a used 2018 road glide special, it has Rockford front speakers and soundigital 4ch amp.. I am having issues with the Treble being just obnoxious and ear piercing even with Treble down all the way on the GT6.5. It's annoying and I thought it'd sound way better than it does
Hopefully your radio is flashed, because otherwise the frequency response is not optimized. Also, check the setting on the SD amplifier.
Good video
Thanks for your feedback Fawzi!
The kit work great for 2022 road glide special.
This is our Gen-1 kit, the newer Gen-2 kit works great on a 2022 Road Glide Special: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage2/
Should tell people to make sure fuse is pulled when installing power wire
Great feedback! Thank you.
Thank you for all the help
Glad we were able to help!
The camera doesn't help you actually see where your making connections and disconnections. Especially disassembling the gas tank.
These are our 1st generation video tutorials. We've improved the instructions on our 3rd generation kits. The equivalent for this video is available here: czcams.com/video/ver-2yx7PV0/video.html
Well done video guys. This and the rear kit video helped me out tremendously.
Great! Thank you for the feedback Britt!
What wind splitter is on that bike.? I noticed there is two.
For this particular video, the stock one is used. Other videos have a Klock Werks windshield.
Hey Guys, is it ok to fit the speakers without doing the amplifier?
Yes, absolutely, these are great OEM replacements that will work with the factory radio.
Has anybody had any issues with the existing wire connectors (-) not seating properly?
Which harness are you referring to, the amplifier outputs? If the wire popped out of the socket, you can slightly tweak the tiny catch prongs on either side and reinsert it into the molex connector. If you're having issues with an intermittent connector that can't be fixed, give our customer support a call on Monday at 1-800-669-9899.
Had the same issue. Set the - wire connected over the speaker and squeezed with needle nose pliers to get it to grab
So the initial adjustments are the starting point but the amp has to come completely back out in order to fine tune?
Hi Mathew, if by initial adjustments, you mean "out of the box," definitely no! If the amplifier was never setup, yes, it will need to come out to be adjusted. The good news is 2015 and newer fairings are very easy to remove and re-install versus pre-2014 models. The amplifier slides out easy after removing those 2 nuts/bolts. You can download the FREE Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
FYI ... I just realized we're discussing the HD14-TKIT which has been retired. Our newer versions feature an easier to install T-harness that supports fader control and are available here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/motorcycle-kits/
After the flash has been performed is it safe to use the boom! Bass and treble controls?
Great question Bob, we do recommend keeping the Bass & Treble controls to MIN, especially if you're on the highway running full output. However, if you're just milling around town or in the garage with the volume at a low to medium level, you can safely use them up a little without harm.
What's the install time if professionally installed
Great question David, these are the install times we suggest dealers target these times:
> HD14-TKIT (Street Glide) 3 hours
> HD14-TKIT (Road Glide) 2 hours
> TMS69BL14 (Bag Lids) 1-1/2 hours
I have the Sony XAV-AX100 headunit and your front speaker & amp kit. Will I need to do anything differently and if I had rear lid speakers later should the channel be switch to 4?
Yes, if you use all four outputs of the source unit, keep the amplifier input switch in 4-channel. We would recommend using the speaker line outputs versus any RCA outputs from the radio for the input of the amplifier due to better signal integrity.
We would also recommend using the CLEAN setup on the amplifier for determining the input level from the radio and setting the gain for the amplifier outputs. You can read more about CLEAN and download the 1kHz track here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1126
Awesome thanks !
@@dirtym4702, You're welcome. If you run into any issues with the gain setup, feel free to contact our technical support at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8-5 MST.
Great looking system, I just started the install on my street glide today. Can’t wait till it’s done. Also can u find out what seat is on that bike.
Nice Abraham! If you need to clarify anything on the installation, our support staff is here to help at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri 8-5pm PST. The brand of seat is a Perowitz.
Update, Got my system installed and it rocks. The funny thing is I’ve been a kicker dealer for over 12 years and have always ran kicker on my bikes. A customer came in with a full Rockford Harley sound system, @ that point I knew I had to have it. Best out of the box system money can buy. I’ll have to call the your customer help line in the morning due to a turn on pop I have every time. Once again great system.
Hi Abraham, thank you for trusting Rockford Fosgate with the audio on your bike. The turn-on pop is caused by the radio flash since the radio is "looking" for the factory amplifier. We can provide you with a delay that will fix it. When you contact our technical support (1-800-669-9899) ask for Brian, as he can run down the newer amp settings we have and the turn-on delay option.
With this system can you add a second amp and subwoofer to put in the bags
Hi Eric, this kit has been replaced with several variations available below. However, if you just have a pair of speakers in the upper fairing, there's actually no need to add a 2nd amplifier because the TM400X4ad is a monster amp with plenty of power. You can simply bridge the rear output to a 4-ohm load and it will run a subwoofer no problem. Here's the link to our current Motorcycle Audio Kits: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/selector/motorcycle-kits/
I"m confused. Three months ago you said no need to flash the '19 but now say it is needed. The closest shop to me is over two hours away. How imperative is it to flash? What are the benefits to flashing mine and what are the drawbacks? Is this something I can do later when I have time to take to the shop?
Yes, we apologize for that miscommunication as we were relaying the latest info from our New Product Development group. They did change their position based on long term testing of the GTS radio (we actually got into a heated discussion about the change.) The reason for flashing is covered in our Product Advisory (rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215). The Factory EQ used is over +28 dB at 100Hz. That's an insane amount of gain for anything, especially considering doubling your output requires +10 dB of gain, so in reality you're trying to quadruple your output, but we're also adding much more power to the system.
We literally just did a dealer training with a new 2019 Road Glide and a GTS radio. There was a clear sound quality difference between flashing and not flashing the radio, especially using our new "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash. We have nothing but positive feedback on the new flash, as it provides much better low-end response than the previous flash.
Installed this kit, both front and rear kits. Sounds great. I did have the radio flashed before reading the comments here as I was following the instructions included and in this video. I have a 2019 Road Glide Special, which includes the Boom GTS radio. I see in some comments now that I did not need a flash. Do I need to get this thing flashed back to stock? I'm not sure what settings they used when they flashed at the dealer.
May want to update the instructions and this video with this info, as well as the input level settings outlined below for Front / Rear on the GTS Radio
Thank you Art for your purchase and feedback. Preliminary feedback was no because the software was faster, but after doing much research, we released our official data sheet with YES, it DOES need to be flashed. Here is the official Tuning Guide I created: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
Great, thanks!
Is this an accurate install vid for current 2021 road glides?
No, these feature our Gen-1 product line. Our current Gen-2 product line for 2014 and newer Road Glide models are available here:
Harley 2014+ Playlist:
czcams.com/video/zZu2hxsdces/video.html
Wish the video had a before and after sound check also
We recommend hearing one at your local Rockford Fosgate Motorcycle Audio dealer since before/after audio online is very difficult to convey.
I’m looking at ordering this kit for one of my winter projects I just want to confirm that for my 2020 RGS running the new BOOM GTS radio that I don’t have to have my radio flashed with this system?
Hi Swintnation, The HD14-TKIT was replaced by the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 and STAGE3 systems (links below). The new 2020 Boom! GTS radio needs to be flashed because it has the same Excessive Bass EQ issue that needs to be flattened. Don't worry, our "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ Bikes" flash fixes the EQ and gives it a better response for the lower end.
HD14RGSG-STAGE2 (fronts & amplifier)
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage2/
HD14RGSG-STAGE3 (fronts, saddlebag & amplifier)
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage3/
@@rockfordfosgate Are those two links and information the same for the 2019 with the BOOM GTS?
Hi @@mathewshackelford8037, YES, the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 & STAGE3 above are compatible with BOOM AUDIO GTS radios (GTS radio MUST be use our "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash) and fits the following models:
2015-current Harley-Davidson® FLTRX Road Glide®
2015-current Harley-Davidson® FLTRXS Road Glide® Special
2014-current Harley-Davidson® FLHX Street Glide®
2014-current Harley-Davidson® FLHXS Street Glide® Special
For a 17 Milwaukee 8, does the radio still need flashed, and also, can I use the supplied rear wires to connect lower fairing speakers since I have no rear ones?
Hi Dwayne, all radios 2004 and newer need to be flashed. Yes, if the lowers do not have the intercooler, you can use those TourPak speaker wires to power lowers. We tap into the radio's output at the TourPak location. We run it back to the input of the amplifier, then back out.
I'm installing the speakers but not the amp, guessing I need to disconnect the neg battery terminal before anything else... Doesn't show that you guys did that in the video, or is it really nessesary when just replacing the speakers??
Great question Ralph, if you're not installing an amplifier, there is no need to disconnect the battery.
There has got to be some zoom in footage or learning becomes difficult.
These are our 1st generation video tutorials. We've improved the instructions on our 3rd generation kits. The equivalent for this video is available here: czcams.com/video/ver-2yx7PV0/video.html
I have a 2016 Road Glide, I just ordered this kit and your kit for the bag lid speakers as well. Do you know the proper amplifier settings for both kits installed on the bike?
Yes, we just revised them so I need to publish them to the website. If you email me at ce@rockfordcorp.com I'll email you the new settings. Since it's a 16 model, do you have the factory radio? If so, you'll need to get the radio flashed.
Rockford Fosgate which flash is suggested for the 4 speaker system. Two fairing 2 saddle bag lids and amp.
Hello I have the Fosgate front kit with amp and bag speakers with drs1 16 road glide. My question is should I get the radio flash at the dealer or let it ride how it is? Thanks
You're going to get different answers to this question, especially on forums which that take a different stance on this. However, our official take is YES, Rockford Fosgate recommends to have the radio flashed to the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes Flash" to flatten the EQ, then use the DSR1 to enhance the sonic profile. The reason is because it requires so much EQ work to simply "flatten" the curve from the Harley-Davidson profile. Most people don't have that amount of time, patience, and equipment to measure the frequency response in between tunings. We feel it's much more attainable to flatten the curve using the flash, then using the DSR1 to tweak everything into place.
Thanks for the response. Is there a recommendation setting for the amp gains? I also read the Fosgate amp recognize the fade from front to rear after the flash. Is this true?
@@ChevyBuz2 Yes, there are very specific settings for the amplifier that can be downloaded below. Yes, the Rockford Fosgate flash enables the front/rear fader and the speed sense volume control. On your 2016 Road Glide I would definitely suggest getting the radio flash. It has +28 dB of gain at 100 Hz, which is 5x more than what is possible with the DSR1, so your speakers will be hanging on for dear life if it's turned up at all. Here's that Amp Tuning Guide : rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
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Has any software updates been needed to flash the 2019 boom 6.5 GTS
Yes, there is a new flash update for 2019 models that will be released in the coming weeks from our partner Techno-Research (producer of the flashing hardware.)
I had this install done by local Rockford Fosgate Authorized Dealer, I see you mention the remote wire connection which tells the Amplifier when power is on to the motorcycle. My issue is that when the amplifier is on and I crank over the bike I get a significant noise that sounds like it could possibly blow a speaker or even an amp it is not a dot dot dot which many shops claim is normal on a Harley, I look at many other installs and I do not hear such a noise can you advise please. I had the saddle bag kit installed also and repeated the 6.5 speakers on a set of lowers.
What radio flash setting did the installer use? Does the amplifier have the remote turn-on wire connected?
I get the same sound when I turn the bike on. I had my Harley Dealership flash the radio and the went to a 4 speaker no amp setting. Is that correct? I thought an 8 speaker and 2 amp setting was the way to go?! It sounded better without the flash. Any suggestions? I live in Windsor, On Canada. By Detroit.
phil giordano, We recommended "2-Speakers Upper Fairing - 1 Amp". If all you do is listen to the radio in the parking lot, then the flash isn't for you. However, if you're adding anything over a 50 watt amp and listening to it medium-to-loud on the road or highway, this will save your speakers. Here is a graph of the factory EQ that we're suggesting to remove: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215
The turn-on noise is the radio looking for the amplifier, which isn't used. If you feel the pop is too excessive, you can contact our technical support and they can help you with a turn-on delay at 1-800-669-9899 Mon-Fri. 8 am - 5 pm MST.
So 2 speakers upper fairing-1Amp. I am using the entire RF front (Upper Fairing and saddle bag speakers) with the AMP supplied by RF. I will see if they can reconfigure the settings to 2 speakers upper fairing and 1AMP. Thanks
phil giordano Did that set up help your sound? I just bought this system and was trying to find the right flash set up.
Looking for good speaker setup for my 08 Street Glide
Hi Kevin,
Yes, we do make speakers specific for 2008 Street Glide models. You can find info on those models below as they are custom frequency response tailored to overcome wind, road, and exhaust noise on a factory equipped H-D:
> TMS6SG - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms6sg/
If you're looking to amplify the system so you can hear your music on the highway, we would recommend the speaker & amp kit:
> HD9813SG-TKIT - www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/tms6sg/
You can see how the HD9813SG-TKIT kit gets installed here:
> 1998-2013 Street Glide® Front Speaker & Amp Install
czcams.com/video/qnUaUCqBai0/video.html
What brand seat is that
Hi Dustin 1720, the brand of seat is a Perowitz.
Thank you for the instructions. I just had a Tour Pack with rear speakers installed on my road glide and this included flashing the radio so that 4 channels are available. Do you know if that flash is the same as the one you're recommending?
Hi Alex, thanks for upgrading with Rockford Fosgate. There are about a dozen flash settings available. Check with your installer, because we recommend "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" which is sometimes referred to as "The Rockford Flash".
@@rockfordfosgate Thank you. Stopped at the dealer and got the flash done. Ready to wrench :).
@@rockfordfosgate So, this guide is a bit outdated for 2020. The Amp kit RFK-HD14 doesn't have the wires that plug into the speakers. Instead, it comes with a large harness that plugs into the Head unit, it extends to the previous plug that connected the Head unit, and has wires for amp input and output. Essentially the new harness allows being a passthrough of the signal that gets amplified but reuses the original wires for the speakers. Also, to note, the box has the bracket all the way at the bottom behind a carton and I almost thought it was not included in the box.
@@DveGitari This is our 1st Generation instruction video. I'm not sure what kit you actually have, but all our 2nd Generation videos are available here that use the RFK-HD14 amp wiring kit: czcams.com/video/41Hedt2VL18/video.html
@@rockfordfosgate Thanks. I think I skimmed through the video and didn't find it as good as the previous one. Didn't know there was a difference. Thanks for clarifying.
So I have this kit, can I hook up two amps to the stock head unit cause I added lowers and the lids so I am trying to run 6 speakers off that amp. Should it be able to push them all?
Hey Studio Ward! Yes, the 1st generation HD14-TKIT comes with the TM00X4ad amplifier, which is powerful enough for a full 8-speaker system. We did several 6 and 8 speaker installs using that 1 amp at Sturgis and it easily ran all speakers. I typically see around 580W total power output on those birth sheets, so don't let the 400W "rating" fool you. If you have any questions, you can reply to this thread. Also, be sure to download the latest Amp Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
@@rockfordfosgate yeah. Mine is at 614. You don't use the EQ according to that download, is that right? I had it flashed but but it doesn't seem as loud now. So I have two channels running the front 4 speakers and 2 channels running the rear lids. Should both rears and front be set to High Pass? I guess it does say HP. Car Toys set it to
All pass before I added the lowers and the bags, and it is still set to all pass.
@@studioward9416 That is correct, the EQ is not used on the amplifier for this type of installation since the amount of power this amplifier generates will damage the speakers at high volumes using EQ. Yes, both front/rear should be set to HP and the crossover set to 80 Hz as shown in the setup sheet. I'm hoping Car Toys used the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash, because that provides the best overall performance -to- loudness ratio. In fact it should be screaming loud!
@@rockfordfosgate car toys didn't have the ability to flash. There's only one car toys in the area that even does bikes. I think he bypassed it somehow. There is a clear plastic, like triangle wire box with wires in it that he velcro to the under side of the amp with 2 RCA's on it. I had it flashed later by an independent company, but seemed to lose more sound after that.
@@studioward9416 Wondering if they installed the famous "line leveler" in lieu of flashing. This is a DIY trick for many that don't/can't flash ... it works to some degree but has some issues with frequency response. If it was flashed later by an independent dealer (and the box is still installed) that could be the problem of your low output. When the radio is properly flashed, there is no reason for any additional components. If you can determine that box is some sort of hi-low adaptor or "line leveler", then take it off and run the signal straight into the amplifier inputs.
Do you flash it before the instal or after?
It doesn't matter. We just recommend flashing the radio before playing the system.
Just ordered this kit today for a bike I’m picking up in two days lol. Which bars are on that bike?
They are Factory 47 - 14"
That's great Ricky! The bars are 14" by Factory 47. Just a reminder to get the radio flashed if it's 2014 or newer so you don't blow out those new speakers. Here's the info on the Radio Flash: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215
Do the kit come with the amp
Yes Wayne, the kit includes the amp along with these items:
(2) TMS65 Speakers
(2) 2014+ Street Glide Grilles
(2) 2015+ Road Glide Grilles
(2) 2014+ Tour-Pak Grilles
(1) TM400X4ad Amplifier
(1) RFKHD Amp Wiring Kit w/ Brackets
(1) Hardware Pack
The full details are available at: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14-tkit/
Anyone who installed this kit have any feedback on the system?
How do they compare to the T3
Hi Ryan, the TMS6 speakers are specially designed and have very different frequency response goals over the T3 models. The TMS6 have a higher sensitivity and are frequency response tailored for "open air" motorcycle audio use. Drew, our loudspeaker engineer that designed the T3 speakers, specifically designed the TMS speakers to accommodate exhaust, tire, and wind noise. He did this by measuring the frequency response of a factory equipped Street Glide on Arizona Highways up to 75 MPH. He then custom tailored the frequency response so you could actually hear the music in these conditions. If you are listening to music in a parking lot, use the T3 models, but if you're listening to music while riding the motorcycle, use the TMS speakers.
Does the harness comes with the amp and speakers kit?
Yes, everything is included for a complete installation, including the wiring harnesses.
@@rockfordfosgate thank you! I just received the items and it does come with all the harnesses.
Just so I am clear, do I contact my local Harley dealer or a Rockford Fosgate dealer for the flash? Also an estimate for price of flash if you have one. I have speakers but buying amp soon. 2015 RG Ultra. Thanks
Hi Faiz, you need to find a dealer that has a Techno Research flasher, which can be an independent RF dealer or your local H-D dealer. We have a list of dealers that have this type of flasher here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
@@rockfordfosgate wow...quickest reply ever. Thanks guys
@@crawl994 You're welcome! Good luck on your install!
@@rockfordfosgate Could you also recommend which amp and install kit? My setup is tms65 fairing speakers and tms69bl14 in saddlebags and I will not be adding any more speakers. Thanks again
@@crawl994 Normally, we would recommend the HD14U-STAGE2 (rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14u-stage2/) although it comes with a pair of speakers for the front fairing and TourPak. If you just wanted the amplifier and wiring, I would suggest purchasing the RFK-HD14 and TM400X4ad separately. The amplifier is designed to run a full 8-speaker system, so the saddlebag speakers and front fairing speakers will be powered easily. Forgot to mention, nearly all dealers include the flash free if you purchase the product from them. Otherwise I've heard dealers charging $100-$300 if the customer brings the product to them.
Just ordered the RF kid for my 2019 Road Glide Special. Ordered the amp/front speakers kit and also the bag lid kit. Since there aren’t any Rockford dealers near me which flash from Harley is recommended for the Boom GTS radio?
Hi Tailgunner, if you have the Boom GTS radio (not the GT) then you don't need to flash the radio. The software and DSP processing is much, much faster and accurate.
Rockford Fosgate
Well that’s Great News! So now, just waiting on my “ROCK”ford Fosgate system to arrive and do the install. I assume the same RF Amp settings remain as per video instruction as well?
@@tailgunnerdenis3331 Good point... the gains need to be tweaked as indicated below:
- FRONT INPUT LEVEL: 09:00 - 09:45 o'clock position
- REAR INPUT LEVEL: 09:15 - 09:45 o'clock position
The remaining controls follow the video.
Rockford Fosgate Thx guys. So I just received both RF kits. Top quality I must say... won’t be able to install for about a month (out of country travel) but excited to get it done. Quick question...would the 2019 GTS Boom head unit benefit from a line level prior to amp signal to deliver a closer to flat signal? Or does the GTS not require such. Thx again for all your great support.
@@tailgunnerdenis3331 The GTS radio does not need a line leveler, but it sounds like someone on a forum is trying to convince you otherwise. After analyzing the GTS radio, it appears the DSP compressor is functioning as it should due to the faster radio software. Therefore, we don't feel adding line levelers are needed on the GTS. Safe travels.
can the sound be that good if they dont even play music after the install?
Yes, actually they are amazing. We understand most fanatics don't purchase audio systems by what they sound like over the internet, since imaging and clarity cannot be conveyed on a mobile device. We encourage you to stop by a Rockford Fosgate Motorcycle Audio dealer and hear for yourself.
Do you all have any dealers in Atlanta Ga. area?
Here are a couple dealers, 1 in Atlanta and 2 in Marietta. Call for product availability in case they need to special order:
CARTUNES OF ATLANTA
8601 Roswell Rd.
Atlanta, Georgia
30350
404.256.5600
MONSTER CUSTOMS LLC
483 Commerce Park Dr.
Suite-C
Marietta, Georgia
30060
770.420.0002
www.monstercustomsatlanta.com
SOUND SENSATIONS
337 Cobb Parkway South
Marietta, Georgia
30060
770.429.1600
soundsensationsauto.com/
Rockford Fosgate thank you
You can tell the younger guy is trained by the older guy because he copies his same cadence in his speech and just mannerisms and everything. Its funny.
Hello I have the Fosgate front kit with amp and bag speakers with drs1 16 road glide. My question is should I get the radio flash at the dealer or let it ride how it is? Thanks
Hi Jimmy, sorry we didn't see this comment earlier. Yes, Rockford Fosgate recommends to flash the radio because the built-in EQ has a massive boost at 100 Hz (+28 dB) which is extremely difficult to flatten with a DSP.
@@rockfordfosgate I'm getting my my radio flashed today. What's the best flash to get? I have both the front and rear kits and drs1
@@ChevyBuz2 "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes"
@@rockfordfosgate Awesome... They are flashing and retuning right now. Thanks again!
@@ChevyBuz2 Great! Our support can help with setup on the DSR1 is you run into any issues at 1-800-669-9899, Mon-Fri 8am-5pm PST.