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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2023
  • The UK’s Cornwall county is seeing a mining revival that could play a key role in Britain’s shift to clean energy.
    Alan Crawford digs in on how US-China tensions are increasing demand for the minerals, which can be found in EV batteries and other electronics.
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Komentáře • 801

  • @tonyg2554
    @tonyg2554 Před 11 měsíci +211

    It's sometimes said the main reason the Roman Empire came to Britain was Cornish tin and silver. Crazy that 2000 years later it's still at the centre of huge geopolitical events.

    • @bernhardzunk7402
      @bernhardzunk7402 Před 11 měsíci +20

      Strabo, the Greek Geographer, states that there was a highly lucrative Phoenician trade with Britain for tin via the Cassiterides, whose location is unknown but may have been off the northwest coast of the Iberian Peninsula. The Phoenicians brought their alphabet to Europe, and Latin alphabet is derived from this.

    • @simonmasters3295
      @simonmasters3295 Před 11 měsíci

      ...But it is Sn: not that precious and not that globally significant surely?

    • @brybish
      @brybish Před 11 měsíci +8

      Que demands for cornish independence 😂.

    • @flyerh
      @flyerh Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@brybish You are way behind that curve 👍

    • @hilarymiseroy
      @hilarymiseroy Před 11 měsíci +4

      The Romans also wanted the Great Orme Copper mine in Wales but it was pretty much played out by the time they got it.

  • @martinsaunders2942
    @martinsaunders2942 Před 11 měsíci +311

    The problem is always the same..Getting whichever lacklustre government that is hanging on to power at the time, to actually make a decision, and invest in the country it’s supposed to be governing.

    • @davidliston5002
      @davidliston5002 Před 11 měsíci

      Don't let the corrupt tories get there hands on it as they will sell it off to a foreign goverment.

    • @boombla693
      @boombla693 Před 11 měsíci +19

      Couldn’t agree more. Recent government’s lack of political will and planning for the future has messed the UK up on many fronts

    • @peterharrington8709
      @peterharrington8709 Před 11 měsíci +11

      TBF rather than simply subsidising these businesses maybe it would be best to take a share in them? Not the market economy way of course but rather than lining the pockets of rich investors.

    • @brendanpells912
      @brendanpells912 Před 11 měsíci +15

      Why don't these private companies raise their own funds for investment instead of expecting the government to pay for it? Any money from the government should be in return for a share in the business, including the power to limit dividends and salaries to senior management.

    • @Nieldyboy
      @Nieldyboy Před 11 měsíci

      Hear hear. Our gutless government is nothing more than caretakers. Can drive a ship but have no care or clue of its destination as long as they can jump off with pockets filled with cash before it crashes

  • @mikeobermaier4265
    @mikeobermaier4265 Před 11 měsíci +318

    Expecting this incompetent government to act swiftly and effectively is the stumbling block here.

    • @thatguy363
      @thatguy363 Před 11 měsíci +5

      they need time to set up the companies that will make the profits

    • @chubeye1187
      @chubeye1187 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@thatguy363 too difficult they only do that with industries reliant on the taxpayer

    • @andrewm8703
      @andrewm8703 Před 11 měsíci +4

      We've got the same problems here in Canada. Vast mineral resources but we cannot seem to get any initiative going because of various government roadblocks. They are getting in their own way.

    • @mohamedhussein4124
      @mohamedhussein4124 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@chubeye1187 tax 😂 peasant war of words

    • @togowack
      @togowack Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@andrewm8703No it is being reserved for a later time when we are not being gorged out taxes. Why would you want the government to mine that if the money just goes to them? Is this a 'problem'?

  • @fredwood1490
    @fredwood1490 Před 11 měsíci +168

    They might start, before the mine de-waters, by reprocessing those old tailings piles! Remember, tin was what the old Miners were looking for and so anything else was tossed aside. Now is the time to look again at what the old Miners thought of as waste.

    • @villiersman951
      @villiersman951 Před 11 měsíci +6

      👍

    • @davel4708
      @davel4708 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @dikl2689
      @dikl2689 Před 11 měsíci +24

      The 'tailings' piles they showed were the waste from the china clay industry not tin mining. However they are considering the extraction of lithium which is found in these tailings.

    • @mynameisjoejeans
      @mynameisjoejeans Před 11 měsíci +9

      I was thinking this. Although depending how long they've been there, significant portions of the lithium may have leached into the surround area, making extraction quite difficult and disruptive.

    • @bernhardzunk7402
      @bernhardzunk7402 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Modern minerals processing techniques would likely get tin out of those tailings.

  • @rorywhittaker4485
    @rorywhittaker4485 Před 11 měsíci +23

    This makes me so happy. I’d love England to have industry again

    • @yammyharrone
      @yammyharrone Před 11 měsíci +2

      I think many would, but the mining industry didn't disappear of it own doing. If the government does get involved, I'd start dialing those hopes back to something more acheivable.. like just simply not embarrassing the entire nation (achievable, but far from an easy job for our politicians)

  • @ronblack7870
    @ronblack7870 Před 11 měsíci +53

    Cornwall was where the very first steam engines were used in the mines to pump out water.

    • @aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS
      @aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS Před 11 měsíci +22

      Along with the steam engine, the world owes Britain for all it has given. The industrial revolution, electricity, end of institutional slavery worldwide, and ultimately the Magna Carta with English Common Law, just to name a few.

    • @Jake_5693
      @Jake_5693 Před 11 měsíci

      @@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUSPenicillin and antibiotics, vaccines… all have saved hundreds of millions of lives

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification Před 11 měsíci

      ​​@@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS"end of institutional slavery" thing.
      Hmmm, doesn't it count if you enslave the local population in place after colonisation?

    • @TheAwillz
      @TheAwillz Před 11 měsíci

      @@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUSactually mate it was the welsh

    • @joshwenn989
      @joshwenn989 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@TheAwillz You realise Wales is part of Britain?

  • @boarbot7829
    @boarbot7829 Před 11 měsíci +7

    At 4:00 you say “no production in Europe”, but a place in Belgium is at the bottom of the screen.

  • @andrewrussack8647
    @andrewrussack8647 Před 11 měsíci +26

    As an Australian with Cornish mining heritage, it’s interesting to see the potential for mining to recommence in Cornwall!

    • @Q_QQ_Q
      @Q_QQ_Q Před 11 měsíci +1

      Lease will be given to some suspicious foreign companies likely.

    • @oneshothunter9877
      @oneshothunter9877 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Q_QQ_Q
      Chinese be like 🙃

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 Před 7 měsíci

      Cornish miners often formed a large number of miners in the US as well historically.

  • @FallenPhoenix86
    @FallenPhoenix86 Před 11 měsíci +28

    "For the UK it's a test of the governments ability to come up with the money and the vision...."
    "We need a coherent plan by the UK government"
    "We need action"
    ^ This should be making us all nervous.

    • @camoTiaras
      @camoTiaras Před 8 měsíci +2

      Government and ability ?.
      They will sell the the mines to themselves for nothing then sell them to the next despot with a wedge of cash.

  • @geofflewis8599
    @geofflewis8599 Před 11 měsíci +18

    ..''A coherent plan by the UK Govt...'' Aha..

  • @rickjames18
    @rickjames18 Před 11 měsíci +38

    The biggest issue will be China increased subsidizing of Chinese mining or resource gathering around the world. They control the majority of the industry and continue adding funds to that true. Except they do not care about eco friendly mining and have the cheapest labor. If the west can make it a point to only source from western industries it could work. Also what about the processing? things are even worse there. I think if be band together we can fill western/allies needs without risking national security. We cannot allow the CCP to control rare earth minerals.

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci +3

      China labour isn't that cheap anymore. But they are becoming way advanced on processing technologies as well as full upstream/downstream chain integration. It's not hundreds of thousands workers with picks and shovels anymore.

    • @eden5260
      @eden5260 Před 7 měsíci

      Belgium is the only country in the list of top producers that has a more expensive labour than China
      Peru, Bolivia, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia all have cheaper labour.
      Although the differences aren't as big as they are in the manufacturing industry they still exist

    • @marczhu7473
      @marczhu7473 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@abdiganiadengood joke 😂 us refining rare earth tech is 1970's based.

    • @marczhu7473
      @marczhu7473 Před 6 měsíci

      @@abdiganiaden how far? The gap is less than 10 years tech and China has 6 month ahead in Ai tech a bit more for 5g. 😂

  • @1966babysnakes
    @1966babysnakes Před 11 měsíci +20

    Coherent plan & UK Government? Well, that's an oxymoron!

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Cornwall has a stunningly beautiful coastline but the interior is badly scarred by mining. Morwellham (actually in Devon) is in the Tamar Valley. When the copper and manganese mines were operating the whole area was defoliated by arsenic. It is now green and beautiful but it’s not a crop growing area.

  • @NigelBurn
    @NigelBurn Před 11 měsíci +25

    Really good documentary, couldn’t agree more it’s about time we started making stuff again 😊

  • @gregreynolds5686
    @gregreynolds5686 Před 11 měsíci +28

    All the calls for government support don't give me much hope. When these mines were first mined, I bet there wasn't any government support at all... Private industry really needs to stand on its own feet without the support of politically motivated money and all the strings that come with it.

    • @Litany_of_Fury
      @Litany_of_Fury Před 11 měsíci +1

      Maybe natural resources should be nationalised for use in the UK.

    • @MrToradragon
      @MrToradragon Před 11 měsíci

      Then perhaps government should remove much of the red tape. I bet that back then it was, at best, sending letter to parliament, with something like "I want to open tin mine on land that is in my possession and thus I ask you for decree" and then they would send him given decree and operation would commence. Not to mention that mining back then was quite different and often it would be nothing more than drift mining of vein of given metal. Fairly inexpensive endeavour.
      Today mining in Europe, disregarding whether it is outside or inside fo the EU, is strained by plenty of environmental regulations, red tape and is much more expensive as mines are deeper and metals are extracted from crushed rocks in form of dust particle rather than from veins. For example opening of one of the largest lithium mines in Europe (in Ore mountains), that will most likely produce tin and other metals as well, will take several more years due to all red tape. Immense gold deposits in Slovakia are not mined due to all the red tape and it would be perhaps open pit mining, so it is little bit problematic.
      That is the main issue I would say, regulations are preventing mining operations from starting without loans and subsidies.

    • @MrToradragon
      @MrToradragon Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Litany_of_Fury Isn't there any way how to declare that all minerals belongs to the crown as is common in continental Europe? (Wit the small difference that the crown was replaced by state in republics)

    • @Litany_of_Fury
      @Litany_of_Fury Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@MrToradragon Ultimate landownership and resource ownership is with the State. The State gives out licenses to mine specific resources.

    • @Mmjk_12
      @Mmjk_12 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yeah mate, because leaving key industries to die without subsidies has worked out great hasn't it.

  • @Emailmesoicanignoreu
    @Emailmesoicanignoreu Před rokem +30

    At 3:58 you state there is no production in the EU yet number 10 is in Belgium…

    • @grahamcook9289
      @grahamcook9289 Před rokem +5

      Very poorly researched piece. Lazy journalism that really said nothing of any significance.

    • @Emailmesoicanignoreu
      @Emailmesoicanignoreu Před rokem +3

      @@grahamcook9289 agreed. Also the EU legalisation requiring tin for solder on circuit boards had a far bigger impact. But it’s only a footnote because of …. The B word.

    • @RRaymer
      @RRaymer Před 11 měsíci

      Well its a recycling station for Tin. Aurubis Beerse has no economies of scale, very unreliable supplier as you can imagine you cannot forecast future recycling output/reserves. In essence, there is no production.

    • @Emailmesoicanignoreu
      @Emailmesoicanignoreu Před 11 měsíci

      @@RRaymer okay, but why is it on the list in the first place?

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci

      That's not mining, just some recycling.

  • @coolhand66
    @coolhand66 Před 11 měsíci +18

    Wow congratulations I hope it takes off to my friends and the UK the more is that you pole lithium and t i n from British soil is a wonderful thing especially for the people around there for Great Britain high-paying jobsglad to hear it

  • @alundurbridge3880
    @alundurbridge3880 Před 11 měsíci +2

    What consideration has been made for Radon gas to safe extraction and waste disposal.

  • @Unknown-ti3um
    @Unknown-ti3um Před 11 měsíci +16

    Hope there are plenty of minerals in those mines to last many decades, even a hundred years

  • @flyerh
    @flyerh Před 11 měsíci +24

    Love the shot down the mine with a Jock presenter and a Taffy engineer/geologist. As a Cornishman I hope history does not repeat itself where the money leaves our county and the workers are left relatively poor.

    • @margin606
      @margin606 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Isn't that a parochial point-of-view?

    • @armac8158
      @armac8158 Před 11 měsíci

      Welsh and Scots were proud miners too. I come from a family of Coal Miners in West Lothian, Scotland.
      This is great news for Cornwall, and the economy.

    • @SuperStandin
      @SuperStandin Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@armac8158 So many old mining communities all over the UK mine used to be coal miners in Lancashire. shows how these old industries where once widespread

    • @armac8158
      @armac8158 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@SuperStandin used to be the length and breadth of Britain mate👍🏻🇬🇧

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci

      Most of the money investing in re-opening the mine is going to be coming outside of Cornwall since Cornwall is not going to be able to invest in the equipment and other paraphanalia from its own resources. I am sure most of the miners will be living in Cornwall spending their wages there though, and the level of skill required in modern mining is going to mean they are very well paid.

  • @kitatit
    @kitatit Před 11 měsíci +21

    Exciting stuff! Best wishes from Australia. Looks like you guys have some smart people on the job. I hope the UK government support this!

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 Před 11 měsíci

      Only if it benefits them in some way.

    • @williambuchanan8607
      @williambuchanan8607 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Let's hope our resources are mined by the Brits and not sold of to some foreign company, as so many of our resources have by successive Governments !!

    • @capri4682
      @capri4682 Před 11 měsíci

      Wait until our Government starts selling off the mines to some private corporation like that Maggie Thatcher did

    • @gudmundursteinar
      @gudmundursteinar Před 11 měsíci

      If they are smart those people are probably aussies.

    • @MantisShrimp80
      @MantisShrimp80 Před 7 měsíci

      Too corrupt. So corrupts that it's 3rd world level.

  • @Joe-ij6of
    @Joe-ij6of Před rokem +19

    Jaguar being owned by Tata is the most hilariously ridiculous thing I can possibly imagine... but hey, that's thatcher-nomics for you

    • @qwill8254
      @qwill8254 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Well atleast we bought , from your dearest friends the Americans 😅😅....

    • @jimbodimbo981
      @jimbodimbo981 Před 11 měsíci +1

      What’s wrong with that..tiny bit racist perhaps?

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 Před 11 měsíci +5

      all the UK automobile production companies went bankrupt except perhaps specialty companies like morgan.

    • @Joe-ij6of
      @Joe-ij6of Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ronblack7870 …and was rescued by gov’t, then sold off after getting back to profitability.

    • @mynameisjoejeans
      @mynameisjoejeans Před 11 měsíci +7

      Not as funny as the Greater London authority getting kicked out of their purpose-built city hall because they couldn’t afford the rent to the Saudi owners. They had only moved into that one because they’d already sold off the grand old hall too. PFI what a bargain

  • @warrenjohnknight.9831
    @warrenjohnknight.9831 Před 11 měsíci +18

    Here in New Zealand the geothermal power is 30% of our electricity, plus lithium and other minerals, 😊

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan Před 11 měsíci +3

      Geothermal is about the only renewable that full proof (even hydropower is dependent on the weather)
      I'd be surprised if NZ doesn't tap into geo thermal more with a declared nuclear policy

    • @roman648
      @roman648 Před 11 měsíci +4

      The Earths core will cool down eventually in billions of years, so it’s technically renewable for now.

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo Před 11 měsíci

      @@roman648 The Sun will turn into a Red Giant and destroy itself in billions of years, all of our energy ultimately comes from the Sun, so technically all energy is only renewable 'for now'. However, I think we won't be worrying about how renewable geothermal is in a few billion years, we'll either be extinct or multiplanetary by then.
      If we're still on Earth at that point, then the the renewability of life will be our bigger issue.

    • @warrenjohnknight.9831
      @warrenjohnknight.9831 Před 11 měsíci

      @roman648 actually all of the water is reinjected down too the sorce, that's definitely why we do this because of taking too much water was becoming a problem, because it's the steam only no the water, thats separated. At first it was definitely a problem, strangely enough originally it was only for production of heavy water for the British nuclear power and bomb. Go figure right.

    • @warrenjohnknight.9831
      @warrenjohnknight.9831 Před 11 měsíci

      @vinniechan sadly our government just signed up to Blackrock, for 2 billion dollars for ocean wind farms, now that's definitely a extremely worrying place, the lasted new Geothermal station starts very soon,

  • @Tochinoki
    @Tochinoki Před rokem +44

    Strict environmental standards in the UK? lol. Our rivers are full of sewage.

    • @ralph7349
      @ralph7349 Před rokem +11

      go figure how bad the rivers are in countries with less environmental standards

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 Před rokem +4

      That's because your legacy sewer system doesn't segregate sewage from rainwater.

    • @Emailmesoicanignoreu
      @Emailmesoicanignoreu Před rokem

      @@ralph7349 which nearby country has lower standards?

    • @adamdanilowicz4252
      @adamdanilowicz4252 Před rokem +6

      ​@@gregorymalchuk272According to a recent FT article, 80% of sewage overflows are caused by underinvestment and not Victorian era infrastructure as water companies and Tory politicians try to tell us. Less than 12 per cent of the sewage network in England and Wales was built in the 19th century

    • @Cartoonman154
      @Cartoonman154 Před rokem +3

      Check a report called 'Task 3 Occurrence of storm water overflows in the EU.' It breaks down sewers and storm drains in countries in Europe that have combined sewers and separate sewers.

  • @PhukYougoogle-vx2qm
    @PhukYougoogle-vx2qm Před rokem +33

    We have the resources to be self sufficient and always will, it’s about time we stopped relying on other countries that have us over a barrel‼️

    • @Firebreak420
      @Firebreak420 Před rokem +5

      All the processing is still done in China for the most part no matter where the minerals are mined.

    • @cameronjohnston5748
      @cameronjohnston5748 Před rokem

      @@Firebreak420 This is why all other countries are meeting the fictious levels and now they are saying China produces more than anyone else. It's always China's fault nowadays, or Russia's. Diversion Tactics

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 Před 11 měsíci +2

      "Always will" is obviously wrong since we live in a finite world. Now if we start off-world resource extraction or gain enough energy abundance to synthesize new materials that could be something.

    • @cameronjohnston5748
      @cameronjohnston5748 Před 11 měsíci

      This sounds like a view point of the WEF, or is this a forecast from the Dr Who series.@@CausticLemons7

    • @scoby41
      @scoby41 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Firebreak420 the onshoring is real. I believe covid was a wakeup call to many to shorten the supply lines and work closer with partners.

  • @CartoType
    @CartoType Před 11 měsíci +7

    I’m not confident in this industry because it seems to rely too much on government action, either from across the sea or via homegrown subsidies.

    • @eden5260
      @eden5260 Před 7 měsíci

      Government subsidies are just the opening step in the re construction of globalisation as we know it
      Open trade that is based on fairness and trust
      When both of these disappear /
      Don't exist any longer the world is changing
      naturally more trade is consolidated inward and among country blocks who still support the same fundamental idea.
      That means two things for our economy
      A) inflation
      Things can be as cheap as before when we source them from more expensive places
      B) a revivement of some industries we've exported abroad decades ago
      And the domestic changes that come with it
      Higher salaries (for some !)
      Changes in areas that didn't have the same opportunities before this change

  • @geraldabeyawardena5606
    @geraldabeyawardena5606 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Sad that we need to be driven by external threats to do what we should be anyway, maximising the natural resources of the UK. Wish them all success . May this be the first in harnessing our natural resources for Briitain's economic recovery.

    • @michaelimbesi2314
      @michaelimbesi2314 Před 7 měsíci

      As an American who voted for Biden, you’re welcome. Consider this an apology for not helping you in the Falklands ;)

  • @ravenfeeder1892
    @ravenfeeder1892 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Hopefully South Crofty are extracting all the metals from that water. There's loads of Lithium and other minerals suspended in that water.

  • @Lew-m97
    @Lew-m97 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Hope a big chunk of the profits stay in the South West they’ve been done over since de-industrialisation.

    • @etherealbolweevil6268
      @etherealbolweevil6268 Před 11 měsíci

      Half of london was built on west country mine profits and will continue to be so.

    • @jaydowg1914
      @jaydowg1914 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Fully agree, beautiful region cornwall and devon is! would be quite funny to see an "its cornwall's tin" movement similar to scotland's "its scotland's oil"😅

    • @davidharris4062
      @davidharris4062 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Well said, the profits taken from mining areas are not reinvested in the area, if they are it’s just a token gesture, same with the mining areas in South Wales, apparently £4 trillion was taken out in profits, this does not include the profits made from the steel/tin/copper industries of the past, we have wind, water and geothermal energy in spades, we export more energy the we use here, but what’s reinvested, not a great deal, I live in one of the South Wales Valley’s, very similar to the Camborne/Redruth area

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci +2

      Those who invested the money into the mine restart will get the largest chunk of the profits, that's how capitalism works.

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci

      And I hope stupid parchocialism doesn't blind people to the fact that Britain's regions are co-dependent and nation states should support their poorer regions when they require it. Britain is a small enough island as it is and we don't need wee nationalists breaking it into even tinier fragments and tell their compatriots in less well off regions to fk themselves because they in a period of being less prosperous. Its not like Cornwall hasn't needed support from tax generated in wealthier regions in recent years. @@jaydowg1914

  • @markrowland1366
    @markrowland1366 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Recovering Lithium from solution is now a thousand times more profitable due to an Australian process that works, not in five years but in 50 minutes and costs similarly, without pollution.

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci

      The process is still not proven commercially, it's just pilot scale. Australian lithium production does not come from brines, but from hard rock.

  • @boxingfan2281
    @boxingfan2281 Před rokem +39

    Not exactly sure it’s any test of the government’s commitment towards Cornwall. Most governments use Cornwall as a summer holiday home destination and for generations left it to struggle in the off season.

    • @effexon
      @effexon Před rokem

      so you talk of this indecisive thing they shout and campaign to get thousands of people move almost middle of nowhere, have and build a family and life and house and then at any whim(joy of green things) all mines and life can end overnight and all was for nothing... probably cant get much selling house either, so loans are left.
      Did people die when thatcher was pressuring mine workers, ie army was sent to disband riots? back in 70s and 80s when they were harsh.

    • @WorldIsWierd
      @WorldIsWierd Před rokem

      Doesnt matter there wont be any other choice

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent Před 11 měsíci +1

      why can't cornwall function economically without getting special treatment from the national govt? this sounds like typical rural whining, and it goes on all over the world.

    • @daffyduck780
      @daffyduck780 Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@perfectallycromulentCornwall's geography works against it. It's a peninsula that leads nowhere. Locating a business there will typically add additional transportation costs. Tourism brings in money but also comes with second home ownership being an issue, making it hard for the locals. Basically a high cost of living paired with low wages. It's worse than the north of England that always seems to be getting special treatment.

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@perfectallycromulent
      City people get more spent on them per head

  • @grahamcook9289
    @grahamcook9289 Před rokem +11

    Why should the UK government provide money to revive mining in Cornwall? If mineral exploitation is not commercially financially viable, then it should not happen. Leave it to the market.

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci

      UK government just providing a very small piece. Vast majority is privately funded

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci

      Free marketism is why Britain is now almost entirely a service economy based in the south east of England and reliant on foreign suppliers for manufactured products and raw materials. This is a strategic liability that forces us to depend on hostile foreign powers like Russia, China and sketchy theocracies like the Middle East for oil. Fk the free market and lassaize faire capitalism. It is why Britain has been comprehensively de-industrialised and overdependent on foreign resources.

  • @leeebbrell9
    @leeebbrell9 Před 11 měsíci +16

    I would love to see UK towns revived with mines. Most of them where created in first place to mine

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L Před 7 měsíci

      That was when there were resources to mine. Those resources have now either been exhausted or not worth the expense to mine them anymore.

  • @grahamcook9289
    @grahamcook9289 Před rokem +3

    With no production of tin at all in Europe, and then your graphic shows Aurubis Beerse, Belgium at 8,200 tonnes.

  • @peteregan3862
    @peteregan3862 Před rokem +4

    Sounds like some company buyouts are necessary to assemble a project of sufficient scale and bring it to the Mining mining market for capital investment

  • @donwright3427
    @donwright3427 Před 11 měsíci +2

    There is copper too in Parys Mountain,Anglesey .

  • @reubencarter3004
    @reubencarter3004 Před rokem +40

    The UK needs to team up with the US and Canada in mining investment to get this Cornish mines at full production. Once the lithium is mine, the west needs to build Lithium refining facilities instead of shipping the raw materials to China.

    • @xXAbdulBaqiXx
      @xXAbdulBaqiXx Před 11 měsíci

      yea yea.... UK will never allow dirty industry to refine those raw materials. It is a dirty job which no western country is willing to allow

    • @rjones6219
      @rjones6219 Před 11 měsíci +4

      To process 1 tonne of lithium requires 2200 tonnes of fresh water, where do you propose they get it from?

    • @korma9732
      @korma9732 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@rjones6219clouds.....

    • @tomsmith2209
      @tomsmith2209 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@rjones6219 In England? It falls out of the sky quite often.

    • @tttuu3309
      @tttuu3309 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Your life will be so expensive you think they shipping to China because they love China? Funny

  • @jamienoonan1186
    @jamienoonan1186 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Mineral rush!?! There has always been an need for minerals, our government closed most industries in Britain through the 70s and 80s until we are now a shadow of our former self.

  • @XNY_Music
    @XNY_Music Před 11 měsíci +4

    We need a Brunel for the modern era.

  • @darrencorrigan8505
    @darrencorrigan8505 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks, Bloomberg.

  • @megapixies
    @megapixies Před 11 měsíci +1

    Definition of a mine is a hole in the ground with a Cornishman at the bottom.

  • @brucemackinnon6707
    @brucemackinnon6707 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Tin has been mined in Cornwall for 4,000 years. There might still be a fair bit of tin in those waste heaps. Reprocessing can be profitable.

    • @the5elements566
      @the5elements566 Před 7 měsíci

      Silly question, but just how did the people of that time A. Know what was in the mine and what it could do with its bounty. B. Just how did a primitive people mine?

  • @philipmcdonagh1094
    @philipmcdonagh1094 Před 11 měsíci

    Went to Camborne School of mining back in the 90's.

  • @maxasaurus3008
    @maxasaurus3008 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I’d be very happy indeed to see “Made in England” on more things I buy.

  • @dalel3608
    @dalel3608 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Is all that water permating from the ocean, or was that just condensation raining down on you in the mine?
    Also Alan, Cornish Lithium should get in touch with E3 Metals in Alberta Canada, we're doing the same thing, collecting Lithium from the brine in the Great Sedimentary Basin, the same places that we used to get oil is now getting us minerals.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat Před 11 měsíci

      It's before the water table, half the time they're under the ocean in these mines

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 Před 7 měsíci

      Cornwall is very wet. And is on the ocean.

  • @EvenWaysMusic
    @EvenWaysMusic Před 11 měsíci +3

    The Government cannot fail these companies and industries. They need and must be given all the help and support they can get from the Gov or the UK will be left behind again.

    • @leighrobinson
      @leighrobinson Před 11 měsíci +1

      If the government was serious about a strategic resource they should nationalise any restart efforts. Why should Cornish Tin and their ilk get all that help now suddenly Tin et al are booming and are now potentially economically viable in Cornwall again.
      No, get investment on the back of returns given the mineral price predictions or appeal to the government for investment/nationalisation. I’m sick of privatising the profits and nationalising the losses.

  • @mikepembo8297
    @mikepembo8297 Před 11 měsíci

    4:01 says no production in Europe or North America. But Belgium is 10th on the list. Has that since closed down

  • @user-dm84
    @user-dm84 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I'm skeptical about any "action" from the UK government. The red sea will be parted before we see any investment coming from them.

  • @geofflewis8599
    @geofflewis8599 Před 11 měsíci +1

    ..how can an extractive industry be 'sustainable'?..

  • @LuisDiuk
    @LuisDiuk Před 11 měsíci +1

    Well done UK

  • @Cartoonman154
    @Cartoonman154 Před rokem +1

    There's going to be a potash mine outside of Whitby.

  • @factcheckedbythebbc3100
    @factcheckedbythebbc3100 Před 7 měsíci

    18 months to pump the water out of South Crofty! I did exploration drilling at the bottom of Wheel Jane mine, and the water pressure was so great it pushed the drill pipe back up the hole.

  • @valenrn8657
    @valenrn8657 Před 11 měsíci +17

    List of countries by tin production in 2019 based on Mineral Commodity Summary 2020
    1. China , 85,000
    2. Indonesia , 80,000
    3. Myanmar, 54,000
    4. Peru (CPTPP), 18,500
    5. Bolivia, 17,000
    6. Brazil, 17,000
    7. Congo , 10,000
    8. Nigeria , 7,500
    9. Australia (CPTPP), 7,000
    10. Vietnam (CPTPP), 4,500

    • @nigelleyland166
      @nigelleyland166 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ...and your point is?

    • @kbtze
      @kbtze Před 11 měsíci +14

      ​@@nigelleyland166point is, let's get back on the charts

    • @tweedy4sg
      @tweedy4sg Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@nigelleyland166 the point is is to prompt the question where will this Cornwall mine put UK on the chart ???

    • @canzukcommonwealth7309
      @canzukcommonwealth7309 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@tweedy4sgthe U.K. has 10% of known world reserves

    • @stephenjohnson2800
      @stephenjohnson2800 Před 11 měsíci

      @@canzukcommonwealth7309who says?

  • @aaronr.9644
    @aaronr.9644 Před rokem

    4:27 I guess they will have to drive back on reverse in order to get out of there haha :D

  • @sunnysuryani5674
    @sunnysuryani5674 Před 11 měsíci

    @4:00 "..with no production in Europe.."
    Meanwhile Belgium is clearly listed at #10

  • @ThorsMartell
    @ThorsMartell Před 11 měsíci +1

    AFAIK the first steam machines were built for tin mines in tin mines in Cornwall.
    This is literally the place where the industrial revolution started 200 years ago.

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer Před 11 měsíci

    oh cool first time i see a youtube video with multiple audio tracks. nice.

  • @ldnwholesale8552
    @ldnwholesale8552 Před 7 měsíci

    I cannot remember the name of the mine but it is right on the coast and goes out under the sea. But by and large dormant though fairly close to being ready. As a tourist I did a walk underground there in 17. The story was when prices go back up they will continue to mine it.

  • @jgdooley2003
    @jgdooley2003 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Look west to what is happening to Tara Mines in Navan, Co Meath. ROI. A lead and zinc mine that is letting go 600 direct employees and stopping extraction due to depressed demand and price for these metals.
    Mining was once a large industry in Ireland with mines in Wicklow, Kilkenny and Leitrim now all closed down and no longer working.
    Mining is a very volatile and non sustainable industry which leaves a lot of environmental damage when the paydirt is extracted.

    • @1MrAngel1
      @1MrAngel1 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes. Mining for lithium, cobalt, aluminum and Uranium are DEFINITELY GOING TO STOP GLOBAL BOILING and are ABSOLUTELY SAFE AND ECO FRIENDLY

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Před 7 měsíci

      Those mines in Ireland can easily be opened when need be. It is a horrible idea for the likes of Ireland to be supply the global markets. When the world order is reorganised Ireland will be supplying its own industries partnered with the UK. The UK is not opening those mines to supply global demand but ding it for security economic reasons.

  • @paligap7502
    @paligap7502 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Since Britain is named after tin you would have thought it was a no brainer. Lithium usually sits nearby as well.

    • @wc8246
      @wc8246 Před 11 měsíci

      Where did you get that from? I've heard a few origins of the word Britain, not one of them relates to tin.

    • @paligap7502
      @paligap7502 Před 11 měsíci

      @@wc8246 The name “Britain” comes from the Phoenician name “Baratanac”, meaning “Land of Tin”

  • @bertiewooster3326
    @bertiewooster3326 Před 6 měsíci +2

    In the scale of things there is little there to put big money into it.I know.

  • @Oi999Pa
    @Oi999Pa Před 6 měsíci

    Brilliant news for the country 🇬🇧⚒️

  • @cavendish009
    @cavendish009 Před 11 měsíci +3

    COAL- COAL - AND MORE COAL !!! THAT IS WHAT WE NEED NOW. The idea that coal is dangerous is LUDICROUS. Cheap plentiful ENERGY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kernow62
      @kernow62 Před měsícem

      well you won't find any in Cornwall.

  • @MrCMDTE
    @MrCMDTE Před 11 měsíci +2

    Its also the old gripe that the goverment needs to dump money at a problem that the market should cover.

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci

      The 'free market' would abandon high-wage Britain and focus almost exclusively on mining raw materials in poor countries where labour and regulations are cheaper. If we want to be more self-suffient and less reliant on sketchy countries for our essential raw materials that supply our industries then we need government intervention.
      Free Marketism is why we are now a predominantly service economy and not a manufacturing one.

  • @SirZanZa
    @SirZanZa Před 11 měsíci

    Devon & Cornwall is littered with Stannery (tin) towns, the southwest has the potential to be a massive producer of Tin

  • @alanhindmarch4483
    @alanhindmarch4483 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I believe mining for various products will be restarted or new mines for new products. There is permission given for a new coal mine in Cumbria and the Woodsmith Mine a deep potash and polyhalite mine in North Yorkshire, England.

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci

      The polyhalite mine will never get off the ground, there isn't enough market out there for the product which they want to produce. South Crofty and the coal mine in Cumbria are real projects though

    • @alanhindmarch4483
      @alanhindmarch4483 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@AK-74K the polyhalite mine in North Yorkshire is well on the way to starting production, so how can you say it will never get off the ground. Polyhalite is a more environmentally substitute for potash and there is already a world market for it. You need to do your research better, before making comments.

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci

      It has to be commercially viable though. If its cheaper to extract in foreign countries and import then it won't get off the ground.@@alanhindmarch4483

  • @RagingDong
    @RagingDong Před 11 měsíci

    Those iconic buildinds are engine houses for pumps

  • @CCRoselle
    @CCRoselle Před 11 měsíci +4

    Come, all ye jolly Tinner boys, and listen to me;
    I'll tell ее of a storie shall make ye for to see,
    Consarning Boney Peartie, the schaames which he had maade
    To stop our tin and copper mines, and all our pilchard traade.
    Chorus- Hurea for tin and copper, boys, and fisheries likewise!
    Hurea for Cornish maadens-Oh, bless their pretty eyes!
    Hurea for our ould gentrie, and may they never faale!
    Hurea, hurea for Cornwall! Hurea, boys, "one and ale!"

  • @dubcheck2943
    @dubcheck2943 Před 11 měsíci +1

    i was about to post, does that mean Morewellham Quay is re-opening, then remembered that was copper not tin :)

  • @daviecrocket9160
    @daviecrocket9160 Před rokem +1

    The re opening has been on the cards for decades

  • @BangkokZed
    @BangkokZed Před 11 měsíci +5

    The video highlights the presence of minerals in the Cornwall region. However, the profitability of mining remains uncertain due to the lack of information about refining processes and potential markets for the minerals. It's clear that further in-depth research is necessary before considering a revival of this industry.

    • @saviorvx1883
      @saviorvx1883 Před 11 měsíci

      research will be a waste of time , time that seems to be really short if tensions erupt and the money to know what they already know. i dont think it will china never was a global power in terms of force, they always got massacred even tiny japan ripped a new hole

    • @benhodkinson6467
      @benhodkinson6467 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It would appear that now is the time to act not procrastinate!

    • @AK-74K
      @AK-74K Před 11 měsíci +1

      Tin processing at South Crofty is conventional, nothing risky there. The market for tin also is relatively transparent. Tin is a well understood metal

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Před 7 měsíci

      The Uk is not opening its mines for international markets. It is doing so because cheap globalism products are not going to be there and the UK needs to start making stuff again to survive.

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 Před rokem +2

    Is that a Glasgow accent he is sporting?

  • @anywhereroam9698
    @anywhereroam9698 Před rokem +16

    When he’s saying “Lidium” / “Livium” he’s saying “Lithium”. It took me a while to understand.

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Před rokem +11

      Mate, we all have different accents. If you went to a different English speaking country, the locals would think that YOU speak weirdly. If you traveled a bit, you would learn do understand different accents and dialects much more easily. 🙂

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Před rokem +10

      @@user-be1jx7ty7n Yeah, that was probably an over reaction. Recently I've come across too many Americans who were annoyed that the rest of the western world isn't exactly like 'Murica. But my post was unfair, because I have no idea where the first poster even comes from.

    • @Crabman_87
      @Crabman_87 Před rokem +8

      ​@@Dave_Sissonnah you were totally right in your reaction. There were even multiple signs shown that read "Lithium"

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, that was definitely a weird accent pronunciation there of lithium. I’m British living in Cornwall and I haven’t heard anyone else in the UK pronounce it like that. Is that how some Cornish people pronounce it?

    • @techtinkerin
      @techtinkerin Před rokem +2

      Здравствуйте!😂

  • @aanchaallllllll
    @aanchaallllllll Před 11 měsíci +10

    0:01: ⚡ The South Crofty tin mine in Cornwall is set to restart, offering jobs and a chance at a secure future for the region, while also testing the UK government's ability to revive the mining industry and keep up with the global demand for clean energy resources.
    3:08: 💼 Cornwall's South Crofty mine has the potential to become Europe's first primary tin producer, benefiting from high tin prices and strict environmental standards in the UK.
    5:28: 🔋 Cornish Tin has discovered reserves of lithium, a metal essential for electric vehicle batteries, and calls for more action from the UK Government to support the industry.
    7:55: ⛏ Cornish Lithium aims to mine lithium in a sustainable and environmentally friendly way, with potential for creating a responsible supply chain of critical minerals.
    Recap by Tammy AI

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 Před rokem +1

    I wonder what the companies are going to do with the arsenic that is mined along with the tin?.

    • @1MrAngel1
      @1MrAngel1 Před 11 měsíci

      Dump it on some Black and Brown people.

    • @billedifier8584
      @billedifier8584 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@1MrAngel1 No, they have to pay for it.

    • @mikeboate208
      @mikeboate208 Před 11 měsíci

      @@billedifier8584 Oh , they will ! You know they will .

  • @kernowjago1999
    @kernowjago1999 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Please take note Cornwall is not a county of England it is a Duchy and is one of the Celtic Nations. I would of hoped a reporter from Scotland would know this

    • @a11osaurus
      @a11osaurus Před 11 měsíci +4

      Nope you are wrong. Cornwall is a county, like any other in England. The "Duchy of Cornwall" does exist, but it is a collection of lands owned by the monarch, most of which is not even in Cornwall. Only 2% of Cornwall is in the duchy of Cornwall.

    • @kernowjago1999
      @kernowjago1999 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@a11osaurus lol how the lies get spread around. Educate yourself then you see just how wrong you are.

    • @TheThundertaker
      @TheThundertaker Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cornwall has been incorporated within the Kingdom of England since Anglo-Saxon times. I know its fashionable these days to pretend what you wish for reality is reality but its really silly. Cornwall was in fact part of the Kingdom of England before the North of England was when it was ruled by the Danelaw.

  • @Domdeone1
    @Domdeone1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Injecting DOLLARS into the mine. Did l hear this right? But as soon as anything is viable in this country-it is sold off to foreign investors/shareholding majorities. Eg: every other industry

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique2927 Před 11 měsíci

    How much of these metals are in the tailings of these old mines. Has any one looked?

  • @simonmcowan6874
    @simonmcowan6874 Před 8 měsíci

    Tin from Cornwall was traded with the Phoenesians in Spain during the bronze age.

  • @langdalepaul
    @langdalepaul Před 11 měsíci

    I bought some jewellery from South Crofty just before it closed. But what’s going to be the impact, on one our most beautiful landscapes, of extracting tin and lithium on a modern industrial scale?

  • @benji-pj4dp
    @benji-pj4dp Před 11 měsíci

    I left the uk to work in west Australian mining maybe i should go back.

  • @arjovenzia
    @arjovenzia Před 6 měsíci

    I would have thought they would start by reprocessing the tailings. There is a Tin mining district not far from where I live, but the tin ran out decades ago. as well as new exploration for lithium and other "modern" metals, they are just running the tailings through new and different processes, and getting quite a trove of minerals that the old timers considered waste. getting the low-hanging fruit, and using that cash to further develop exploration and research. some government help for sure, but its essentially already turning a profit.

  • @chriswharton
    @chriswharton Před 7 měsíci

    Just amazing.

  • @bozoproductions6096
    @bozoproductions6096 Před 11 měsíci

    Would have been nice to see those rich mineral deposits in the stone he picked up

  • @Veeger
    @Veeger Před 11 měsíci

    They're waiting for a "coherent plan" from the government? We've all been waiting for that FOR A LONG TIME!

  • @sjb3460
    @sjb3460 Před 7 měsíci

    What kinds of minerals are in the waste piles?

  • @ike637
    @ike637 Před 7 měsíci

    Great news. This will help in the battle against climate change

  • @williamcadman6333
    @williamcadman6333 Před 11 měsíci

    3:56- no production at all in Europe…” you have the top 10 refined tin producers rank board on at the same time and it literally says Belgium at the bottom

  • @ferguswalker7345
    @ferguswalker7345 Před 11 měsíci

    Belgium wondering why they're apparently not in Europe anymore...

  • @aryaman05
    @aryaman05 Před rokem

    Does this quality as blessing ?😊

  • @speedmachine69
    @speedmachine69 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Getting a coherent plan out of the uk government is a bit of a stretch.....

  • @lablackzed
    @lablackzed Před 11 měsíci

    And were are they going to get the skilled miners to mine it answer me that ?

  • @matthewhunty
    @matthewhunty Před 11 měsíci

    What’s the water like. Is it sea water or clean. Does it have high minerals. Can we grow thing with it.?

  • @westyk52sparky
    @westyk52sparky Před 11 měsíci

    1998 £45000 should be like £80000 to match that value now ?. so £30000 is about 17000 then. how many tons can you move in a hour.

  • @urbanspaceman7183
    @urbanspaceman7183 Před 11 měsíci

    No production in Europe. When did Belgium stop being in Europe?

  • @takemeup69
    @takemeup69 Před rokem +6

    "a coherent plan from the goverment" hahahahahahahahahah.. that will probably be phased in eventually at some point.!

    • @grahamcook9289
      @grahamcook9289 Před rokem

      If mineral exploitation today is commercially viable in Cornwall, then no government action at all is needed.

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 Před 11 měsíci

    Go the UK, go Cornwall

  • @rashequddinahmed9511
    @rashequddinahmed9511 Před 11 měsíci

    As you said they are several types of heavy construction machinery. What's the average training time and cost involved in learning to operate them?
    Do you need specialize training for every different types of machinery or there are general training that once obtained can be applicable or used for a variety of machinery?
    Will really appreciate responses please. Thanks

    • @yammyharrone
      @yammyharrone Před 11 měsíci

      For an experienced op that only needs testing, no training, CPCS costs are around £500 per test/licence, but adding training onto that would be too great a variable to give an exact figure on, but would add £300-2500 depending on the amount of training days and the type of machine (there is no such thing as 'general' training). Initial 'trained' licence lasts for 2yrs, competent licence lasts for 5yrs, after both you must be retested. 'Average training time' is not a thing. Some people never get it, some people were born capable, and all ability levels between.
      Every machine requires an individual 'trained' licence, however similar machine competent licences can be obtained together with 1 test, for example, a wheeled excavator and tracked excavator require separate training tests, however, to achieve full competency on both, I was only assessed on the tracked.
      In addition to machine licences, you also need licences for slung loads, working in confined spaces, working with hand tools, being a supervisor, etc, etc. Basically you can't do anything, operate anything or even enter some sites without one.

  • @bhawanisinghindia2287
    @bhawanisinghindia2287 Před 11 měsíci +1

    amazing work by TATA....4 BILLIONE battery plant....

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 11 měsíci

    7:30 300,000 tons of lithium carbonate, which really is just around 100,000 tons of lithium, at high cost compared to Thatcher Pass, Nevada 40,000,000 ton cheap open pit mine.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Před 7 měsíci

      Those Nevada resources will only be used for US industry. Britain needs its own supply that can be supplemented by foreign marginal supply.