A Taiwan Professor has a grim prediction of the island's future.
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- How will the US Taiwan China mess playout? Listen to two Taiwanese speak their mind.
00:00 - Introduction
00:52 - Taiwan Survey regarding independence
02:03 - Guest Introduction
04:13 - Lady Fan Opinion
09:49 - Professor Opinion - Very Important👍
14:00 - Professor Most important Statement 👍
16:55 - Special Ending
Lady Fan is unbelievably foolish in her belief that the US could possibly protect Taiwan or that the US even has any intention of protecting Taiwan. They are sitting Taiwan up for a proxy war in the same way they set Ukraine up.
The US wants to fight its war with China far from their own shores. In the same way they have been fighting their proxy war with Russia in Ukraine far from their own territory.
China has done nothing to suggest that they want to accelerate reunification. And if she knew the least thing about the military situation, she would understand that China can reunify anytime it wishes, but that reunification by invasion would not be costless for China or costless for Taiwan. And China would be totally unwilling to pay that cost unless they thought it was an absolute necessity.
So the only thing that will accelerate China's desire to reunify and might trigger an invasion is American belligerence and consequently her belief that getting weapons and assistance from the US makes Taiwan safer is just ridiculous.
Any assistance from the US makes Taiwan more of a target for invasion. The last thing that China is going to allow is for the US to turn Taiwan into a weapons platform to attack the mainland. And the moment China concludes that that is what the US is trying to do is the moment that invasion will become an absolute certainty.
And the US is quite determined to trigger a military conflict over Taiwan within the next few years because the US is losing its global hegemony and unless it can defeat China and Russia, that hegemony will soon be gone for good.
@@boyblue3270 True. Others might quickly be dragged in. The risk is that it would likely rapidly escalate into a wholesale nuclear exchange. And that would be the end of most of us.
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100% correct, this is the truth of the matter at heart. A well written response.
She's a good window to see into the regular Taiwanese mindset, which is under heavy western influence... Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
@@Peter.F.CThat is a great analysis on the matter and a very accurate one too.
I had to skip Lady Fan when she said "U.S is here to protect the status quo" This is extraordinarily naive, it's baffling and dangerous.
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I think that Ms. Fan is a typical intellectual who has been influenced by Western propaganda and demonize China
Well... it's true
Their status quo as the bullies of the world playground
Commendable sincerity
Let me wish peace and prosperity to Chinese people on both coasts of the Taiwan Strait
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Henry Kissinger once said, "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal".
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When did Kissinger make that statement, and what was the context under which it was made ? Thanks.
@@russianwolfhound1 Vietnam... Full quote: The full quote: "Nixon should be told that it is probably an objective of Clifford to depose Thieu (South Vietnamese president Nguyen Van Thieu ed.) before Nixon is inaugurated. Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."
The USA, historically, always threw their "allies" under the bus, when it suited them.
Kissinger era grotesco. Saludos desde Mexico.
@@XE1GXG He was indeed, absolutely grotesque. Nevertheless, his words were true.
What happens when today's US democracy and hegemony no longer exist and its financial hegemony collapses? This is something that is not totally inconceivable.
I'm sure those that supports Western hegemony will whine and cry over the loss of their masters. The world will move on anyway towards the multipolarity.
What do you think all those weapons are for? If the Liberal monetary order fails I have no doubt that will turn to old style imperialism if they can get away with it politically at home.
thing is, oldschool arms race, be it hot war of WW2 or cold war, puts US economy on steroids. you could argue whole boom from 1945 to 1990 was just living on fumes from that + 1960s Moon race.
@@jordansoviet23 im on the fence with chinese scientist findings.... if those continue to keep up, we might have that china is leader in sciences (maybe fusion power) and west is better in some other things/aspects. so if multipolarity could include that eg US is financial leader but china would be scientific lead, engineering lead in various products can be in different places as modern products are very complex. as US had outsource huge majority of manufacturing, sort of multipolarity has already happened in this way.
@@effexon China and the BRICS will not allow further exploitation by US finance. That is a ridiculous notion. It would lead to thousands of years of humiliation as US capital sucked everything out of the global system.
The Taiwanese people would be wise to tell the USA to go home and take care of its own house, which is in overwhelming debt, public, consumer, student, corporate, debt everywhere but the MIC.
Tricky situation, lots of one way demonization of China in Taiwan Media today. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward.
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@@WindSpiritZ You should study the Philippine-American War in 1899. The US went to war to control the Philippine islands for the sole purpose of eventually invading and taking over mainland China. These were the exact same people who had just run across the North American continent decimate over 6 million native inhabitants to secure their resources. The invasion of China culminated in 1900 when thousands of Marines were garrisoned within the Forbidden City, going so far as beheading local children and staking their heads atop poles to warn any upstarts to beware. How serious to you think the US is about world domination? It is now 2024. The US just passed $8 billion to fund the construction of an underground nuclear submarine base on the eastern side of Taiwan to dock the US nuclear sub currently stationed in Seoul. There is now no peaceful way forward, the US Congress and MIC have just forced the mainland's hand. It is now just a matter of how and when.
The US has troops on the Kinmen Islands. By comparison, it's like China having troops on Staten Island. The US is again, as usual, provoking.
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The second author you referenced is absolutely correct, in my opinion. Whilst most people in Taiwan would like to retain independence, it is not possible whilst the US has so much control. Taiwan will always present a danger to China. At the same time as the Sunflower movement appeared in Taiwan, Occupy Central occured in Hong Kong, a run up to the more violent protests later on.
People in Taiwan must realize that they do not " retain independence" but are in a pause in a Civil War.
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Both those riots were orchestrated and financed by various US funded NGO's with the CIA meddling around as well.
Taiwan is not really considered a danger to the mainland but it's more of a homework or responsibility or can even call it a burden or a todo list. It's more of a pass down burden from history in a sense. Because if u don't complete this task the ruling regime will be flag as incomplete or even incompetent regime aka dynasty. Sure they can try to downplay it or steer the public perception for the whole country that we don't need Unification since Taiwan is small and irrelevant but the history element of "Unification" runs deep into the bone of the culture so it would be difficult to change the narrative and if u dare to try change it might even backfire and beings viewed as the regime is weak and finding excuses for not completing unification.
@@JC.72 True, there are all those historical reasons, but if there was an ‘independent' US vassal state called Taiwan, it would probably become like Ukraine, armed to the teeth and threatening mainland China.
The professor is correct, thanks for the update.
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The one reason why PROC should take back Taiwan, is because US is using it in its geopolitical interest to encircle the PROC and suppress it's development. But it's too late and US can only dream about holding on as number one economically and militarily.
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CHINA should takes back Taiwan 10 yrs ago. The longer tbe delay, the raks is more difficult.
The US could still return Taiwan to Japan or help create a new country as it allowed Cuba to form. They want the PRC and Taiwan to come to some kind of agreement since they had intended to give Taiwan to the ROC but has never officially done so mostly to keep the PRC from claiming it but also because the ROC committed numerous human rights violations as an occupying power. If Taiwan was Japanese or a new, independent Taiwanese country, the PRC would have the same problem with missiles on Taiwan that the USA had in the early 1960's. The USA planned to invade Cuba if defensive nuclear missiles in Cuba were not removed. The Russian Federation has the same problem with Ukraine joining NATO and not being neutral
@@BlueGiant69202 No it can't, the US has already acknowledged that Taiwan is a part of China.
The Americans believe in their own exceptionalism and are nobody's friend, not even with the European countries, their so-called allies--look what they did to the Nordstream pipeline. The Professor is right in noting that Taiwan is nothing more than a tool for the US to further her geopolitical interests and maintain hegemony over the entire world. The stats show that the younger Taiwanese are more pro-independence, having been goaded on by America under the guise of democracy, freedom of speech and other western values. This direction is very dangerous for Taiwan. Kishore Mahbubani, a Singaporean diplomat and geopolitical consultant, said that Taiwan, not being re-unified with mainland China, is the last vestige of China's "century of humiliation". As such, patient as she is, China will never allow Taiwan to become the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the US, even at disproportionate cost and damage to herself.
In their zero-sum world view, the US' only agenda is to dominate at all costs, with strategies that include the ruination of whole countries of other peoples. More needs to be done to educate and turn those naive pro-independence young Taiwanese around.
"... it's 10 years too late; the train has already left the station." This last sentence was chilling... It hit hard.
a bit late for Ukraine, I hope it is not too late for Taiwan. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
There is only one viable path towards lasting independence for Taiwan, which is to exist as a friendly brotherly nation alongside the mainland, similar to the relationship between Canada and the US, New Zealand and Australia, Belarus and Russia, and so on. Taiwan independence movement can only succeed if it convinces the mainland, through actions over a long period of time, that an independent Taiwan will forge a close relationship with the PRC. This will not be easy, but it is plausible.
The reason the current form of Taiwanese independence cannot succeed is that it is fundamentally anti-China and pro-US. It is less about independence and more about opposition to the PRC. Geographically, any sane person can see such an ideology is doomed to fail.
Even China-friendly independent Taiwan would still carry the risk of separatism in the future, just look at Ukraine. Unification is inevitable.
Love your channel for Naval insights, I was especially intrigued by the video where you demonstrated the entire ROC navy brought to heel by a single PRC ship IIRC.
Taiwan cannot fall into US or Japanese hands in my mind for one reason only, it is the unsinkable aircraft carrier that will break the first island chain.
@@Twopeetfeet Thanks - I don't think it was me who made that video you talked about. I actually don't believe the entire RoC Navy can technically be brought down by one PRC ship. A small number of ships perhaps, but one ship only is a bit fantatstical, even if you consider nothing else but the limited ammunition in the VLS.
The best option is still one country with two systems, but allowing Taiwan to have its fair-sized military capabilities which are financially supported by the Mainland like Hawaii and the mainland US.
How does one convince the PRC to stop being a deaf dumb Dad like in the Thai insurance commercial, claiming sovereignty over Taiwan (just as Russia illegally claims sovereignty over Crimea) and accept Taiwan as an independent eldest daughter? The war crimes committed by the ROC against the people of Taiwan (including promulgation of a foreign constitution in occupied territory that it illegally annexed in 1945 when it did not, and still does not, have title to, even in 2024) makes any declaration of independence by renouncing the ROC constitution, anti-chinese against both the PRC and ROC. The ROC is a non-sovereign entity and government in exile that does not hold title to Taiwan under international law and is not a nation-state or country. There is no such thing as a permanent occupation as one contemporary statesman recently said. The USA wants to pick a fight so it can retaliate and effect regime change from Beijing to Nanking.The status quo can't be continued but I did like the former President of Taiwan's speech that assured the PRC that her government would not provoke violence and was open to dialogue. How can one maintain a peaceful relationship and remove fear in the PRC of a revived ROC seeking to usurp power?
In June 2023, Daniel Ellsberg revealed that the US government had detailed plans in place to nuke China in 1958, starting with the nuclear bombing of southern coastal cities and implacably moving north towards Shanghai.The plan not only showed target areas and the precise type of nuclear bombs to be deployed, but also included cold blooded estimates of the eventual nuclear casualties amongst the population of China and the surrounding nations. Can any of the intended victims, their descendants & compatriots today, accept such a bombshell of a revelation with numb equanimity, chatting all the while about Democracy and Status Quo etc. as if such a horrendous existential threat conceived by such unbelievably warped, diabolical minds are of no greater concern than a bowl of white rice???
Daniel Ellsberg, on the other hand, considered his final whistle-blowing his final contribution to stop madness in its track. Let's hope it's not all to no avail.
***Ellsberg's full report remains available on Google and CZcams.
Excellent point. That's also the reason why Taiwan is considered US' "unsinkable aircraft carrier" against China.
Taiwan should pursue their majority wish without getting US involved. That is fatal, as you can see around the world.
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If a country is caught between a power struggle between two superpowers, this said country is the one on the lose end. Just look at Ukraine to see the result. God, look at Afeghanistan in the 80s to see the results.
Afghanistan in the 70s were quite a nice place according to historical footage.... very sad. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
They are the same people but an outside country is trying to divide and rule them. The Taiwanese should look at what is happening to the outside countries latest Proxy in Eastern Europe.
The media manipulation is very crazy these days in Taiwan. Neutral is consider Chinese puppet and all those slogans..... especially younger generation, very vulnerable to media influence. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward.
Even the Ukrainians and Russians are the same people but right now they are killing each for the anglo Saxons entertainment
@@WindSpiritZ It is the same western media bias messaging in America over the current situation in Gaza. America is full of hate and divisive campaigns. DEMOCRAP-CY or DEMOCRAZY.
Peaceful Unification is The Only Way ..
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I respectfully disagree since the ROC does not have title to the territory of Taiwan and is guilty of the same violations of international law regarding occupied territory as the Russian Federation in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. The UN does not recognize illegal annexation of occupied territory, movement of Homeland citizens into occupied territory, promulgation of a foreign constitution and elections in occupied territory, and violation of the human rights including conscription of the inhabitants of occupied territory.
The PRC claim to Taiwan is not valid because it is the USA as principal occupier of Japan that has the legal right to dispose of title to Formosa/Taiwan. Unification requires a formal treaty with the USA that transfers title or an illegal invasion and occupation such as was done by the Russian Federation in parts of Ukraine. Other options ARE possible but require creative genius to be agreeable to the PRC. The USA STILL has embargoes against Cuba so it is going to be tough to figure out but the status quo must end.
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that will kind of play into the hands of the US. let's see. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
So Taiwan will be the Asian version of Ukraine?
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no, taiwan definitely not, but japan could be manipulated as Ukraine
@@quentinz6291Taiwan is a possibility. all Taiwan s.korea. Philippines is within the so call 1st island chain strategy. In big brother minds they are all front line chess pieces.
Taiwan, Philippines, South Korea, and Japan. Though I get the feeling if Japan was to take part, Chinese would be very glad to settle past blood debts.
@@lordumas hope there won't be a war
Coming from a Singaporean, a country with a pretty good relationship with Taiwan and have collaborated with on numerous military drills in the past. I sympathise with Taiwan and can understand the fear of young people there of being under the umbrella of Mainland China, losing their freedom and losing their identity.
But all I can advise is for them to stop consuming western media and visit Mainland China or perhaps work there for a short stint and broaden their horizon. Yes China is a surveillance state but generally the authority really don't care about you unless you are determine to create unrest then only they will use all their power to come down hard on you. But if you take note based on the last few decades on China's governance, they truly work for their people and want to improve the lives of its citizen, so I really don't see why would you be against the CCP. It may change in the future but based on their records I can say China is in very good hands.
Also if I may add, stop consuming the rubbish about democracy. Everyone in the west and Taiwan's mainstream media is harping non stop about the topic of "democracy". But please understand democracy is never the end goal of the people, democracy is merely a process to elect a good government. Although China may lack true democracy(although they have it at a provincial level), the CCP have now achieved a good government without it. Whereas although America claim to have true democracy which I think is up for debate, their government doesn't work for their people and is very incompetent.
It only make sense to reunify with China since Taiwan is in its backyard and your economy and security will benefit greatly from it. Also I doubt America really care for the well being of the people in Taiwan and you really don't want to be the next Ukraine.
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thank you so much for your feedback. Some wise words you gave there. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
Very true.
Absolutely, Taiwan under China would thrive and people would have far more practical freedom rather than just notions of it. I mean, if the prison guard tells a prisoner he is free, does that make him in fact, free?
@@lordumas I like your analogy, I would like to go even further and add that the prison guard (the west) is not free either as he is trap in the prison with him. While they mock those out of the prison (global south) for having to follow strict rules and claim they are not free. They might have strict rules to govern their lives but so does everyone else around them, so they in a environment that is almost crime and corruption free and are free to explore and develop their life in any way they want. Are they really as suppressed as the prison guard claimed then? Just some food for thought.
Yea mate. Am Chinese decent from Malaysia. Great to see someone with much same situation. I was away during younger time too and meet Chinese from around the world. We need to defuse the war the western nation wanted so much.
I would that there were hundreds of like buttons to press. I am deeply moved by sincerity and acumen. You are constantly giving me new preception , clarity and insight. A force for peace, Understanding, and reason.
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Funny things about all human regardless their race, we never can sense danger from far away until we feel it. I can’t imagine small island like taiwan will become battlefield like Ukraine. As far i know rich taiwanese most of them already migrated only young and poor that stuck and cannot leave
Like the Chinese saying that you never sense fear until you you see your own coffin in front of you
@@Tampin111 or the person is too poor to push their coffin to another location
The points you've made are spot-on and definitely not politically-correct in Taiwan. I'm glad that you've also pointed out all that so-called "liberal" views being indoctrinated to the people of Taiwan from various American NGOs. Let's be quite frank here; that whole "LGBT-inclusiveness" things you see in Taiwan these days are more about scoring brownie points with the West (especially the United States) rather than genuine support, and I'm sure you're aware of it as much as I do.
many things we can talk about in my channel. And I also need to be careful and not get into trouble with YT. Let's see how far this channel can go. Thanks for watching and your support
I cannot guess who the professor is but there're a number of Taiwanese scholars and experts with rational minds and in-depth understanding of the world. Some of them are very popular and influential on media. I hope maybe in next episode or in future, you can bring up Prof. Kuo Jeng-Liang, now one of the most influential figures I suppose. His content is always extremely well-prepared and insightful.
watch his show alot but hmm... i guess I can. I might even be able to invite him, he speak english right? From Yale.
@@WindSpiritZ I think so. But his schedule is pretty full.
I do not believe it is too late for reunification with Taiwan.
China’s leadership at each switch, becomes more right, at some point it will initiate its special military operation.
let's hope for peace.
Has used to say someone maybe Henry Kinsinger. To be US enemy is hard but to be ally is deadly...
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The train has already left the station
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I have to agree with what the Professor said. I also see exactly no benefits of an independent Taiwan. An independent Taiwan will make Taiwanese people loose out geopolitically, economically and financially too.
On top of that an independent Taiwan will be a disaster to the Overseas diaspora around the world. Therefore I would also urge any overseas Chinese to think if they would really want to support an independent Taiwan. Unfortunately the majority of the Chinese diaspora overseas are politically ignorant and geopolitically blind.
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Great stuff.
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It's easy for an outsider to stand with one side or the other. I sympathise with the mainland Chinese and I feel for the Taiwanese.
Disregarding the US for a minute, the history between the two sides is contested, complicated. We cannot wish that away; for that to happen, both sides need to empathise with the other, and that requires good faith.
With the involvement of the United States, that is not going to happen. After all, they have an existential stake in debilitating China; it is the US' ambition to stay on top of the world. There is simply no way they will allow negotiations in good faith to happen.
People of good will in both China and Taiwan know this. They have to work within the framework as it is.
I wish for peace and prosperity to all.
thank you for your kind word. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
Hi. thank you very much for your amazing videos. Keep it up. Greetings from Russia.
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Peaceful reunification is progressive and will be a net positive for Taiwan, ROC
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Truly tragic. But I hope the Taiwanese will spend some time reading European history. Because to read European history is to understand how much time the Europeans spent in the last 1,000 years killing each other before they went around killing others around the world. The only times they stopped were ever only temporary, and that was when they got tired and there weren't enough young people to die for them. The fate of Ukraine now. And the fate of Taiwan if it embraces Western values.
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The Taiwanese are very well versed in China's history and China's is very similar to Europe's. The difference is that Chinese in China has been killing each other, in hundreds of thousands, for the past 2770 years in their recorded history. This and military operations beyond ancient China's borders were wars with the ancient Korea and Japan. If Mongolia is considered as a part of China, then Genghis Khan's Europe expedition can be included too. On top of all that, due to ancient Chinese govt have officials in charge of recording history, they even know how ancient Chinese govt functions and what led to their rise and downfall. And wars in ancient China can be so tragic that families and troops would resort to cannibalism.
Edited: Yet, despite all that knowledge, the mainstream Taiwanese are still blindly worshipping Americanization at this very moment.
Yeah totally. Evil Europeans. All others were peace loving hippies. It's only Europeans. Not that this shit was standard on the whole planet and the Europeans were just the first who have become so successful at war they conquered the whole globe. But this doesn't change the fact that the history of every single country on this planet is closely related to war. With and without Europeans.
Also notice how whenever they chose another region to terrorize they will go together. The crusades, the genocides and colonization of the Americas and Africa, the looting and undevelopment of Asia. These were all group projects, just as what NATO is today.
Watching from 🇨🇦, I get emotional and time outs to recharge keeps me sane. I enjoyed your video, i feel regular media is biased, I'll be back.
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A Taiwan province of China Professor has a grim prediction of the PROVINCE island's future.
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@@WindSpiritZ you're welcome, cheers
You are. So informative. Thank you for that. I'm so happy I found you. I am learning about your side of the world. I've learnt such a lot about the middle east. You also talk in laymen language which makes understanding easier.
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This is a very insightful video. And yes, the parallels with Ukraine are clear. Will the result be the same, or will Taiwan have smarter leadership?
Current leadership is already US controlled... Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
I'm loving your videos, Keep up the great work. Just a quick technical note...turn your cameras auto-focus off. It's very hard to watch when you go out of focus.
got it. I'm a tech idiot. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
A tiny country is aiding and abetting the enemy invaders of its powerful neighbor. The invaders are far from home and may have second thoughts. Is this an auspicious position for the tiny country?
respect your pov
The only plausible invaders in Taiwan would be mainland Chinese as far as I can see
Taiwan should decide their future!
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On youtube watched a video when Vivek Ramaswamy, chatted with Piers Morgan, discussed his standpoint on Taiwan and China during that segment.
Basically said Taiwan provides an important role to USA with regards to Semi Conductors.
And the USA will fully support Taiwan because of this and the eye opener for me.
He said, we would support Taiwan at least until we get semi conductors independence in the US, from 23:30 onwards in that interview.
I believe when that happens USA would not have such a staunch approach when it comes to defending Taiwan, since they have outlived their use.
Possible. Hope Taiwanese have a bright future. Thanks for watching! May we find peace moving forward.
I don't think the professor is controversial at all. If people are paying attention, they should see that what happened to Ukraine is an example. It's should be sobering.
Unfortunately it's clear that Taiwanese people have been subjected to a lot of propaganda.
I grew up in Taiwan in the 70s and 80s though I'm not Taiwanese or Chinese. I would appreciate some content that is in Chinese so I can practice 😊 I was bilingual for many years but it's slacking.
Keep at it, I'm glad the mysterious algorithm suggested your channel. I'm sure we don't agree on everything but on this... I think we are very similar.
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4:08 "A bit confusing", well, thanks to Kissinger's brilliance on his strategic ambiguity strategy that the US took. It solved the problem at that time (how to move forward without giving any side what they really want) but in the long term, it creates trust issue. They did know about this potential problem but still went ahead with it. Guess they hoped that in the future this problem would solve itself somehow, but we're in that future and there's no end to it.
well said. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward.
thank you for taking the time to make the chinese / taiwanese perspective accessible to western audiences.
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But who is able to take the US/Taiwanese view to China’s audience.
Something happened in Hong Kong in 2014 too, it didn't do much because the youth at the time was pretty chilled.
noted. that will kind of play into the hands of the US. let's see. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
Taiwan is more independent after unification as a one country with two system solution, like Hongkong.
The moment Taiwan becomes independent by name, it will become a fully fledged colony, a vassal of the United States. Like Germany for example.
The reserve currency will lose its status, after it has leeched empty all its vassals currency value.
Taiwan if united 20 years ago, it would have been the richest group of Chinese by now.
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wow. I like your last clip showing what Nixon said.
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You‘re so smart and I got so many connections and context and now I’m surprised that you couldn’t see the parallels between Ukraine and Taiwan.
Must be the involvement!?
It’s so important for me to check if I also have such bias when it comes to facts that I’m very engaged in. In the end knowledge is so important and to keep the eyes wide open. The USA takes for a tool whoever it can get and just now when not all goes according plan, always be aware that they have no friends only vassals, tools and enemies
Tough situation, just met my Taiwan friends today, hope the island stay away from war.
This has less to do with Taiwan sovereignty and more to do with US hegemony and suppression of Chinese economic development that is now challenging Western dominance. Taiwan should look at the example of what has happened to US/NATO’s proxy Ukraine. Country flattened, 25%+ territory lost, economy wrecked, 500k dead. The military buildup by both sides is a chicken and the egg scenario. From the Chinese perspective their military buildup is in response to the US/NATO encroachment and encirclement of China and the arming Taiwan. While the US/Taiwan response to the Chinese military expansion is to arm Taiwan and encircle/contain China. This how the US operates in the many proxy wars it has fomented over the last 70 years. The proxy always comes out the loser in these profit wars.
You know what, I'm surprised. I have yet to see a single one, especially Taiwanese speak out against the Professor etc. hmm.. maybe YT alg being too smart. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
I lived in Beijing and Taiwan for long periods of time previously. One way I saw it was that the status quo is the most intense form of “One Country, Two Systems”. While the status quo de jure fails to be OCTS in foreign policy and national defense, de facto Taiwan is not independent in these two OCTS categories because so many countries around the world have limited formal relations with Taiwan. (The bulk of most countries relationships with Taiwan is economic).
Meanwhile, on the other aspects of OCTS, the status quo satisfies the conditions fully. Lots of economic integration, one million Taiwan residents who live and work in the mainland. Still many many ways in which the mainland has influence in Taiwan.
I’m not arguing one way or another on the issue; I’m just saying one viewpoint could be that the status quo is an intense form of OCTS.
Currently however, there's a chain of economic disintergration, launch from the Taiwan side, which force a trade inbalance, and Taiwan use those trade surplus to buy US weaponary. So what China is doing is also pushing out Taiwan products, to reduce Taiwan trade surplus and force Taiwan governnment to choose lower standard living of Taiwanese to buy weapon, or reduce weapon buying, making it less useful to US. complicated situation.
Just for clarification, the "status quo" is 一国两制right?
more like like keep things blurry and figure out later. kick the can down the road. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward.
@@WindSpiritZ Keep up the good work! your channel is like a palate cleanser after all the propaganda that's forced down your throat
there are many youtubers online which help amplify the speech of the professors' some of these channels have well over million of subscribers -- its no secret anymore. just people who may be reluctant to come to terms with it and choose to remain ignorant to protect their egos. it's their choice.
he also exposed lots of corporate greed and insider trade etc.... those can get you into trouble...
@@WindSpiritZ yea, and most of it is evident today within the US. take the Palestinian struggle for example and those who seek to silence or bribe officials to turn the blind eye. how corporate greed (meta, amazon) have begun to stifle Chinese competition (ex: tiktok and temu) under the guise of national security. the usa is in decline and i don't think anyone should try to emulate or follow it... let alone, put it on a pedestal
Unfortunately, it's even bleaker than that. Taiwan's semiconductor supremacy makes them an indispensable nation. But US sanctions forced China to become independent in that arena. Huawei's Pura has 7-nm chips--something that was unthinkable even a year (six months?) ago. If China doesn't need Taiwan, then what good is Taiwan to the US? How can the US use Taiwan if they are no longer a technological lynchpin? I think we see the answer to that question unfolding in real time in Ukraine--Taiwan becomes a bulwark for Western expansion on China's coast.
too true..... I want to just close my eyes and pray. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
I agree with the second part professor. There is no morale in geopolitics, only interests. I am very concerned about Taiwan, a country I have lived in and have many friends and family. I fear, they are sacrificed, like the ukrainians, for the crusade of democracy...
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Not democracy. Global elite oligarchy masquerading as democracy
The problem with China is the country is at the mercy of its all powerful leader, which now with its rise is secure, but to much power in the wrong persons hands is dangerous and history has shown catastrophic especially when a country struggles. So is there really a government in China that can check this power?
Good point, but it is relatively speaking peaceful over last 45 years. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward.
I agree with the Taiwan Professor, the USA is not a responsible partner. We extol freedom and democracy, but in a qualified manner when we export it. We talk a good talk. You must open your society to us so we can worm our way next to the throats of your captains of industry, your military, and your government. Taiwan shouldn't want that, shouldn't want to be a pawn of the USA such as NATO and Ukraine are.
We just don't have your interests in mind. If they coincide then you are good. That is rare.
The USA is not run by benevolent leaders. I thoroughly object to what we have for leadership and I consider myself a loyal American. I didn't sign up for repression, robbery of the lower classes, broken government, an obsolete Constitution, and control by Neocons that engineered the Kennedy assassinations and 9-11. What progressivism we have achieved has been destroyed by wave after wave of warmongers. Our Presidents are shoved in an open-ended box that is a little too small. When they come out the other side they have been convinced to sublimate their campaign rhetoric for the set of principles that must be obeyed under pain of impeachment. Both Parties have the same Neocon warmongering foreign policy.
The West is sinking. Taiwan, don't make this mistake!
Do you give value to the lives and the clearly, freely expressed, choice of the people of Taiwan?
simple answer yes. philosophical answer = complicated. Thanks for watching! May we find peace forward.
Bro thanks for videos.
Please take flower away from foreground. It will help with focus.
yup thanks for reminding me. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
It's simple - everyone pursues THEIR goals. And even when everyone talks about the world - still everyone thinks first of all about themselves. And this needs to change.
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To me, this is more or less a family feud. It is very hurtful when one family member whom is incapable of remembering the important of family value as a whole and be satisfied with a short term gain, and sided with a stranger to goes against the whole family. But not matter what, the family would always wants that family members to turn around and return to the family as one. Because to us Chinese, we are one big family. The western world does not have this value in them culturally speaking. The western world population always wanted to be liberated and independence individually, and self sacrifices is hard but still can be done. Whereas for the chinese, it has always been self sacrifices to be practice for the better good of everybody. If you look at what is happening in Ukraine, This would be the same result that be be behold to Taiwan if she so choose to go that path. But my biggest concern is that the population on both side would be devasted as a result, and the stranger will be able to control them all. It is always the politician that does not have any foresight of the future, and acted irrationally. But I hope the population as a whole would not be blinded by these politician or so-called leader. A good leader will always have it's population at heart and not see a total collapse of it's society. To find that leader, would be an impossible task but eventually one will rise up. My hope is that is Taiwan is given a absolute full autonomy to govern and that the security of Taiwan is in the hand of Mainland China. This would be a win-win solution. China will feel that the family member has return home and stay loyal to the family value and progress the family objective. And Taiwan does not worried about its security and thus, could spend its wealth on the population welfare instead of military expenses. To me to achieve this is to start with the youth. We have to educate them of the value and culture of the chinese society that have flourish for this thousand of years that we come into existence. This is my 2-cents opinion.
great writing, I agree with you. Let's try to avoid war. Thanks for watching. May we find peace forward.
The professor's opinion on American style of democracy reminds me of Wang Huning's 'America against America".
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as Noam Chomsky said fabricting conscent...to serve capitaslism (la piasse a faire) like we say here in Quebec,oh yhea of course Canada...
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Further, Taiwan has a rapidly aging population (nearly 20% reached 65 years old and above, and a birth rate of 8.3 per 1000), healthcare funding shortfall (spending at nearly 7% GDP and increasing faster than the GDP growth rate of about 3%), and water shortage dilemma (as of 28 March 2024, its reservoirs down to three months water supply according to Taiwan Water Resource Agency). “Democracy” can’t help resolve these serious problems, and it’s also losing TSMC (the crown jewel) in America’s chip war against China…
yea, Taiwan fastest declining economy, I hope it can remain peaceful at least. Thanks for watching. May we find peace forward.
@@WindSpiritZ Americans and local vested interests are emptying Taiwan's coffers and moving its best industrial assets elsewhere, while locals pour their hard-earned savings into U.S.-managed funds and pay hfyt fees. The Taiwan issue has a “three body problem”, its fate is dictated by the relationship between America and China, and the reunification timeline is dependent on China’s assessment of the extent of the US financial sanctions, and the economic and political costs to govern the island afterwards …
Ironically, the military matters seem easier than those ..
The professor's opinions are correct in my opinion only I would say that the time Taiwan could have been independent was after the Nationalists retreated there only they proclaimed the Republic Of China.
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I am a Malaysia Huaren and I quite agree with the professor's comments BUT I do not agree with his statement that the " train left the station 10 years ago." Sure, the KMT could have come to an amicable settlement with the Mainland 10 years ago but did nothing about that. On the other hand, could they have done anything to improve relations with the Mainland at all ? I would think that we would need to study the spirit of the Treaty Of San Francisco 1952 which could lead us to a very different conclusion.
Train has already left because the main problem isnt Taiwan govt. It is Taiwan media and NGO. And probably Uncle NED is active in Taiwan.
once textbooks are change, NGO in place, media ban...... It is difficult to pull a country out. Control of the mind is highest form of power projection. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
@@WindSpiritZ I absolutely agree with you ... and @CattleFarmer667 is largely correct too. But, my point is that the US never had the intention to return or to allow the Mainland to reclaim the island in the first place. The absence of the PRC and the ROC at the San Francisco Conference in 1951 loudly hinted that the US wanted to do as they please ..... such as with the Diaoyutai, Ryukyu Islands, Micronesia, Puerto Rico etc etc. Because the ROC on Taiwan did not submit to US desires to abandon the SCS islands and reefs, the ROC was punished for decades being prohibited from buying latest arms for her defence. Remember the ROC was only allowed to purchase only 2nd-hand arms from the US ? And so, back to my objection of the Professor's assertion .... the train left the station in 1952 ! ..... not, 10 years ago.
@@user-zk8fw9rl8l I think we are discussing 2 different thing. San Fancisco Conference in 1951 is US intention. NGO, textbook, media is US method or playbook. I'm pretty sure US wanna kacau ASEAN. Only place successful is Philippines. Failed in Thailand with the stupid demo stir by Lawyer for Democracy NGO. Malaysia and SG will slap ISA to any shit-stirrer.
You can see the late LKY interview in 1970s; CIA tried to bribe LKY's minister and the minister report back to LKY.
@@user-zk8fw9rl8l the RoC airforce did have access to cutting edge technology in the early years to include the cutting edge side winder missile which through no fault of the ROC fell into the PRC’s and USSR’s hands.
The Taiwanese citizens still have a chance to change this. They can write petitions to their governments to join the mainland.
I think 60-70% Taiwanese never visited China. And there's alot of media demonization of China at the moment, so tricky. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
Taiwan is a product of Japanese and Western influence, both with millennia of aristocratic feudal history. It is important to understand that democracy is a graduated form of aristocratic freedom from social conventions and the favor of a monarch. The masses aspired to these freedoms. China ended aristocratic freedoms 2,200 years ago. So, I think China needs to be more sensitive to Taiwan's history
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We talked a lot about American exceptionlism. Many people in TW (to a certain extend in HK) possess similar type of exceptionalism mentality when dealing with mainland Chinese affairs. The votes, wealth and acknowledgement from the US somehow made them feel superior to mainland Chinese. The destruction of TW will be due to its own making.
It is tricky to reverse the situation, I can only pray.
What happened in 2018 in Taiwan to make opinions shift? Looks like there was a big change in number of people pro independence
Hong Kong incident. Thanks for watching! May we find peace
Here's the key issue: If Taiwan becomes independent, because it is Americanized, it will pose a national security threat to China. The island can be used as a massive US military base less than 100 miles from the Chinese coast.
Imagine if China had a massive military base in Cuba. Would the USA tolerate this?
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Without doubt.
Very illuminating economic analysis, which so far I have not encountered with such clarity anywhere else, even though I am paying attention to all the intellectuals you mention.
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I don't really understand why the train has already left and where the rush is coming from. China's policy has a horizon of centuries. It is US that needs to hurry up and try to maintain its hegemony. Now China outproducing US in naval building, I can imagine that for one American cruiser, China will respond by 3 or 5 in the foreseeable future.
Why not develop ultimate mutually assured "deterrence". Adversary will think 1000 times before invading. Then it will easier to say no to becoming a nail.
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8:15 Lu zhengxiang, a great diplomat of the qing dynasty, he once famously concluded that "strong countries do not respect morality, weak countries do not have diplomacy."
Guess Ms. Fan coulda learned a lot from that quote.😂
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Nixon at the end complaining about people lying and being dishonest is hilarious...pot calling the kettle black!
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The professor is correct, the US is just like previous empires. The Mediterranean world hellenized by Alexander the Great or Roman law imposed on its empire by Imperial Rome etc...
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In my opinion, mainland China could try to reach an agreement with the Taiwanese leadership that the "big brother" will ensure that Taiwan does not fall into the trap of foreign dependence. But I know that it is difficult because the US strongly supports Taiwan's independence from China and the Taiwanese people's agitation against big brother China. And more and more US weapons will be sent to Taiwan for provocation purposes.
Taiwan government today feels like already in US's pocket, a bit tricky. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
Hong Kong has shown that there is absolutely zero reason to trust CCP whatsoever. I'm sure Taiwan remembers 2019 events very well
Whew.
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The world needs a powerful dog to be peace . If you like the current situation, embrace the current dog, if not 😂not. Every superpower that will come , will be through war and will have the same effect like the last time. People don’t change and people make the country where they live good or bad .
China does not seek to be an empire like the British/American. In that sense, they are sensible and different. You need to study real history of empires and relate it to current geopolitics, but be honest and not biased.
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Well said 💯💯
How China can become a superpower without war , if is using war to become , it will fall into the same Category like US.
With that poll showing 25% for formal independence, 7% for reunification and the remaining 67% for status quo it is important to consider that the majority of that 67% perceives the current status quo as already having de facto independence
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Had Chiang Kai-shek not been so ambitious in taking back the mainland and declaring independence while The ROC was still the representative of China in the UN. Taiwan would've been an independent state. Chiang thought he had a chance to pull it off with American help.
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Indeed. It is often pointed out to me that it was Chiang Kai-shek and his followers who were kicked out of the UN and not “Taiwan” per se.
A bit off topic, but I find the UN is a strange entity. For example, after the USSR’s dissolution, why did Russia get to keep a veto? Shouldn’t it have sought and obtained membership just like the other countries such as Ukraine? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to have India be given the veto? 🤷
I think we also need some analysis on China's own economy and it's future. For example - about rapidly rising Chinese national debt, about BRI, which is not just necessary for post US globalization, but also to ensure China's own security, as US has very large control over the meritime routes, about the slow down of China's growth (which is normal), the current leadership's effort to qualitativly change China's economy etc. Just talking about US or Europe or Taiwan without side-by-side comparison from China leave no frame of reference to compare.
It is tricky to look at the full picture of China since its "official" numbers can be distorted. It is still running a huge surplus, means that it has a large buffer to keep standard of living reasonable and avoid internal instability. I might give it a try in future video. Thank for watching! May we find peace forward.
One thing not discussed here is Chinese strategic interest in the South China sea. Taiwan would give China a great big foothold on projecting naval power far out into the sea and well into the territorial waters of their neighbors.
We can see already the level of harassment many of China's neighbors have had to deal with so it's understandable why many non Chinese might feel very worried about what a mainland controlled Taiwan would be like
your worry is not without base, maybe my future video can soften some of those worries. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
The key to solving the Taiwan question is to accelerate China's semiconductor technology. Once China surpasses Taiwan in that area, the US would have less incentive to back them.
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No single person or country can be trusted with power. The best we can do is to form a stable status quo and create and enforce strong deterrence.
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China has abandoned its mission of doing revolution on other countries, but why is it not interfering within its own territory? With its own province of Taiwan.
Why is there no national security agenda for Taiwan?
Is it considering Taiwan as an independent country?
US ideology projection is too powerful, and China really don't want to risk conflict. Thank you for watching! May we find a peaceful way forward
@@WindSpiritZ I’m sure there’s no risk in doing the same what the US is doing in Taiwan. Meddling inside Taiwan is an internal matter. China still respect sovereignty of other nations. Taiwan is recognised as a Chinese province by the UN and that is also the official US stance.
I'm especially grateful for the knowledge that China is not seeking to replace the USD, and the cogent reasons for this. Not because I favor US dollar hegemony, I don't. But because I currently trust Chinese planners more, since China is not warmongering and imperialistic like Europe/US over the past 500 years (cf, Chomsky).
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BRIC is all about self-preservation. Trading between countries in their local currencies will reduce inflation.
It doesn’t depend on who said or what is said.
Taiwan’s status quo is dependent on how its politicians behave and what China determines is its fate.
All these talks are irrelevant.
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很遗憾我很难用英文进行书面表达。
片尾引用的视频应该是尼克松的讲话吧？而且应该发生在他因水门事件被弹劾之后。一个政治失败者在痛定思痛之后，又在没有机会扳本的情况下所讲的话应当是比较真诚的。他谈到媒体的双标，self-righteous ，而且权力没有限制……
发人深省
媒體的力量很强大，不用戰爭就可以控制一個國家。
Sad to say but it's way past being about the people living on the island, it's only become about China refusing to allow the island be used as a threat to the mainland. Ala Ukraine to Russia. Good thing all those on the island can travel visa free to the USA. Like the professor said, how long will this nail hold up until it breaks..
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At the very end, Nixon omits to mention the links between the media-elitist and the military-industrial-lobbying-corporative complexes. That net is sometimes called (by McGovern) the mikimat or something like that
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@@WindSpiritZ ... except maybe for the impulse he gave to the VietNam war and later, for the Watergate episode?
I honestly don't know how much power a president in US has anymore, if you pay deep attention to US politics.
I've heard an interesting opinion that the military escalation is more likely to be initiated by China but on the Philippines rather than Taiwan. It might be more likely that the US public opinion is far less prepared to defending Philippines, and such a conflict would also put taiwanese in a complex moral dilemma.
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@@WindSpiritZ God bless 🙏🏽
Well that's freaking depressing.
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America acts in Americas interests.
true. Thank you for watching! May we find peace forward together.
I hope Tai.wan is watching what's going on in Ukr'n. When our gov't 🇺🇸 calls and offers to "help you"... RUN!!!!!
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I guess, I dont understand. If the people of Taiwan have free speech, just like America has free speech. Then why were you hesitant to disclose "The Professor" ? There should be no fear.
The fact is, No one is as free as they think they are. America is not as free as we would like to think. And my personal opinion is, I dont think American culture and values are a net positive to teh people of Taiwan. (Though my opinion matters not in this regard)
So the real question comes down to what is best for the future of Taiwan. And only the Chinese people, on both sides of the strait, can answer this.
IF only, they could be left in "quiet" to ponder their future together. Without outside interference.
Taiwan free speech is at the level of Ukrainian free speech, plus US free speech is not exactly that high. In addition, there's a lot of thought* policing in Taiwan, just like Ukrainian. The society is extremely tense, you say anything neutral* good about China, you are a Chinese puppet. Almost like culture revolution.
Well if the majority of Taiwanese view themselves other than Chinese and seek independence then all the better for the mainland Chinese, make it easier to militarily deal with an opponent you deem different from yourself, on an emotional basis this makes fighting easier, countries do this deliberately before going to combat but if your opponent does this for you then that saves time and effort and attacking will go smoothly. Now if the Taiwanese complain about the views of independent media about their stupidity then that means it's already too late to save them from their stupidity and people should not feel sorry for them, treat them with respect as a combatant and get the fighting started. China should also learn that diplomacy will only take you so far, in the end you will have to take military action, too much diplomacy is just as bad as too much militarism/jingoism.
hmm... respect your pov. Thanks for watching! May we find peace forward.
This lady is a Japanese descendant like the chai and the lai so you know where is their loyalty!
she has a japanese haircut though for sure. Thanks for watching! May we find peace