2023 KTM 300XC First Ride | Best Dirt Bike Ever | Highland Cycles | Peach Valley | Montrose
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- Here is our first ride impression of the 2023 KTM 300XC!
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“I’m Morgan, a huge dirt biker “…. Classic
Once again, love watching this channel makes me feel like I’m at home watching good people talk about bikes and working on them lots of things learned from you Morgan thank you .
Lovely bike Morgan. Thanks for sharing another awesome video. 👌
Can't wait to see the rest of your journey on this thing! I'd love to see some of the maintenance you do on this thing and when. Thanks!
That is coming!
Thank you so much for posting a video about the 300 xc, I’m looking forward to getting one of these this month😁
It is sick
Gorgeous bike Morgan congrats brother can’t wait to see you ride it more. Will be tuned in..😊
Thanks 👍
Awesome seeing you on your new bike I’m gonna be getting a 2023 Ktm 125 xc In the spring I’m so excited!!!
Good choice!
Man that is a beautiful bike!!! I need me one of those.
Dude....just became a new fan of your videos and content! Took mine out for a first ride the other day and all I can say is "they brought the fun back"! Best out of the box bike I've ridden to date! Keep up the good work and providing us "peaked early in life" riders with great content! 🙌🏼
Hahaha. You bet. Thanks for watching
Great work Morgan. Congrats.
Thanks
Thanks Morgan, great to see it in action. Green map top end sounds incredible. Soft map sounds exactly like my keihin with jd kit, red spring flush with case.
Yeah. It really feels like a perfectly jetted carbed bike. The TPI never did in my opinion
@@highlandcycles That system IMO was too complex for me anyway. That's why I went carbed when I was shopping. TBI has my attention for sure.
Congrats, I bet a day didn't go by when you thought about taking delivery of your new 300.
Can't wait to see the differences between the model year change, and your impressions(I bet it ROCKs).
It is NUTS how good this thing is.
Wow you are an amazing rider. Good to know your liking your new bike thus far.
Yeah thanks
I went and looked at one of these today. After sitting on it and watching your video, the store can’t open fast enough Monday morning. Great video.
YES
Thanks for the badass review bike is looking good
No problem 👍
Great review and you like too 👍👍
Great job on the vid!
Thanks
I want one. My homie is supposed to get one in November and I can’t wait to try it out
back for the Ride review ! Great video... It's been on my bucket list for 10-15 years to come out West and ride someday.... If I don't do it soon... It just won't happen at all...
Come on out
Awesome!
My “fortune cookie” tonight said “ KTM XC 300 - 😊IS coming your way, friend” 😁
Nice!!
Great feedback. Very curious about fuel mileage. Can’t wait to see more!
Me too. Hope it’s not too bad.
The long awaited ride review! Thanks for the effort to bring it to us!
When you adjusted the clickers did it make noticeably more compliant in the rocks? Did the front ever want to push through turns? I remember having that issue with my 2017 AER forks on the 350. Clickers helped but struggled to get rid of the problem completely.
It helped a bunch and I have clicked the stiffer again. They are getting really good. Will be brilliant with our re valve
huge fan. I was not excited about the tpi bikes. but like where these are going. tbi sounds right up my alley. thanks for sharing
It’s good so far
A new KTM 300 is in my future. Thanks for the review!!
You’ll love it
The motor sounds like a monster on the hills. Very impressive. You're an awesome rider also. Damn you KTM! Just take all my money...
Hahahah. It’s worth it
Awesome
Don't know how you dig on those rocks so much. You're a Real Rock'NRoller!
Hahahha
Like the ride and feed back on what you experience on the ride👍 I do have a TX 300 on order which be here any day can’t wait. I plan on doing some GPS and enduros and I’m looking foreword to your mods in the future. What class and what races do you plan on doing. Thanks for the good work
I race the 40+ A class and I’ll be Racing Harescrambles and enduros on it.
Morgan, thanks for the review and great video! Once you get dialed in, I’d like to see how it compares to your timed training runs you did. I think they where on your other 300?
Yeah. I have one run filmed already. And spoiler alert, it’s fast already
Would love to see the fuel range or mpg in this type of riding. Seriously considering this bike but often have rides of 50 to 60 mile days and are questioning if it will work for that.
Thank you. Great vids. 👍
🤘1st! Awesome been waiting on this drop!
Thanks for being here! Hope you like the vid.
@@highlandcycles Great review!! Thanks!
Thanks for the review Morgan. Nice riding paired with some sick trails.
What are your thoughts on the mapping differences? Does this bike come with the 3 different auxiliary springs for the pv?
- Buffalo N.Y.
No springs in PV anymore. It’s electronic. The map switch is amazing
KTM/etc is consistently good, for the most part. I do have a 2022 GasGas EX300 and it's very tepid compared to my old 18 300xcw. I'm currently converting to TBI and adding a RKTek head as well - so it should be a fire-breather in no time! Also going to try out the race tech spring conversion. The air forks aren't bad - they seem better for high speed action - but for all the slow rocky Colorado gnar I am hoping the spring will be better.. we will see.. next new bike I hope to get a 24 300xcw with all those improvements.. !
You’ll be happy. This thing fixed everything wrong with TPI (at least if it doesn’t break). These air forks are much better than previous ones but they aren’t as good in the rocks as my setup XPlor forks.
Race Tech has some really good stuff. I bought the gold valve kit for my AER 48 forks on my 18 300 XC and it made then night and day better. Shortly after, I found a guy selling his KYB SSS converted forks and I convinced him to trade for my air forks and a bit of cash. TBH, I would rate them just a hair below my revalved air forks, which surprises me because I fought the stock fork for so long. I'm a believer in revalves now.
I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever you decide.
Morgan, I picked mine up in December. Just love it. First ride was around lake Havasu, second ride Toquerville, third ride around west mountain utah county. Love this bike. Question, did you put an exhaust flange guard on it? Ones that are out there don’t designate 2023 300 XC. Like to get one ordered but don’t want to take a chance on fitment.
Yes and the old ones fit. Got mine from bulletproof
Wow!! Sicko-that faster map switch seems almost scary lol!! Fuel mileage would have me concerned. I'm sure you'll let us know, thx for the quick turn around on vid!
The mileage is concerning for sure. I’m sure I’ll be getting a big tank as soon as I can
Awesome! 2 questions for ya...1) why don't you like TPI bikes? 2) what camera mount do you use? My "I suck at dirt biking" hat just showed up...rad!
Seen too many problems with TPI and stock they are weak. Dango Designs chin mount. Thanks
nothing like smoking the tire in that rocky section in the first 5 mins of its life 😂😂
Heck yeah!
Smoking... breaking in....
awesome vid, I don't mind chucking my '17 EXC round the rocks but i think I'd be scared to scratch the '23.
Hahaha that’s how I feel until I crash it once.
Me too
I saw on your previous vid you have a new set of pro taper evo’s for her, what bend do you go with? Killer bike by the way.
Woods High
This bike looks Awesome!! I did see the fuel mileage doesn’t seem to be that great but do you think a bigger tank will become available??
I think it will and it will need it.
Curious about chainsaw mount clearance with the shrouds being tucked in so far.
I’m leaving that on my older bike. But I kinda doubt it would work on this. Maybe I’ll try it just for you guys.
sounded good. Hope that you dont have any problems like the TPI do. Curious to see if problems develops like TPI did. 🤘🤘
You all will be the first to know. I will
Have the head off to look at and measure stuff after my race this weekend. RK Tek and I are going to develop a head for it.
@@highlandcycles will these heads fit '22 XCWs and require an upgraded ECU? If so is there an ECU you recommend?
@@jkruhlik they already have a head for the 22
It even sounds more powerful than the TPI.; the lean , hollow sound of the TPI is gone.
God damnit - now I have to buy one.
It’s worth it!!
Good video. Did you reach down to shut off the cold start. Supposed to shut off when you rotate throttle forward according to that review I saw. Then again he mentioned TC and was wrong. Does that place get hikers? Maybe they tossed the rocks in the spot?
Hahaha, It does shut off when you roll forward. Not sure what I was doing.
Do you know anyone that has had the recent map update (July I think I've read) done? Did it have much of an impact? Great to hear your bike has done great to 160 hours, especially for a first year model redesign.
I had the most recent one before I went with TSP. It cleaned up the bottom end
To put a spark arrestor on from the factory, any factory means that it went thru the EPA and got certified to be a trail bike not an off road bike..KDX comes to mind.
Exactly
Great review, Do you know what the differences are on the XC vs the SX? As far as I have seen so far, it is just a gas tank/kickstand/6th gear. At a 2k lower price, I'm thinking about ordering an sx and adding everything myself. Currently own a 21 xcw. What say you?
I think you’re right about the differences. Might be easier to get an SX too. All of the XC’s coming in around here are spoken for. I’m sure the suspension valving is different too. I’d you like to go fast I would say go for it. These things are rocket ships. I think it will take some doing to make them into a trail bike but man on man what a machine.
I have a 300sx on order. I made. 250sx with the 300 kit and it was my favorite bike. I’m curious how it would go up against a 450 at the dunes. Currently on a Yamaha 450fx . I want to do some vids comparing the two. I did the sx for the price tag. I’ll get a gas tank and kickstand. Tranny doesn’t bother me . They lug well enough.
Awesome! Can’t wait for mine to come in! Does it have a thermostat? What’s in the list for performance mods?!
No thermostat and check out our last vid
@@highlandcycles Thanks! I have! Was hoping for some engine mods, injectors, pipe etc. looking forward to more updates! Also how did you manage to get one soo soon?!
@@zacharyschwantes838 oh, yeah we are already working with RK Tek on a head. As far as pipes, I’m not sure any exist yet but I’ll be testing (read bending) lots of those. On the fueling, that will be if it seems to need it once we get a head on it.
@@highlandcycles Can’t wait! Mine will be primarily used as my snowbike. So looking forward to the head mod. I know the BRC guys will have something for it as soon as they get there hands on one.
Orange dreamsicle
The limited amount of orange on the bike is a nice upgrade. Glad they ditched the orange frames!
Me too.
Nothing better than popping a 2 smoke cherry for the first time
Heck yeah
Are you going to race it with the stock suspension?, I'm sure with a little fine tuning it will probably be pretty good, gas mileage doesn't seem that bad with such a small tank, it's on average probably good for 50 to 55 miles per tank which is better than my older carbed 300 with a bigger tank.
Yes I will be racing it with stock suspension. I have clicked it a little more and it is pretty darn good.
Would you say this bike could be used by a weekend rider as a do it all bike? Is the power manageable - does it flatter or would it get you into trouble? Thanks for the great review, you are an impressive rider
Yes. This would be fine for an intermediate rider. The motor is easily manageable. The mellow map is really good for that and the hot map is only crazy when you twist it hard. The biggest thing a slower rider will “struggle” with will be the suspension. In stock form it is pretty harsh going slow.
Can you try it with a 14 tooth front sprocket? Made all the difference on my XCW.
This has a 14 already. 14/49 is stock
TBI TBI TBI TBI TBI🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💪🏻👍🏻
Must be nice being able to register a two stroke as a green sticker.
The best part is we don’t have colored stickers here
Do you think it will be possible to retrofit a TBI throttle body to an earlier TPI bike ?
Anything is possible but I doubt it would be worth it. Too much is different. I would look at the TSP relocation kit.
How does the power feel compared to the carb 300? Knowing the TPI bikes are weak on the bottom end curious if TBI runs stronger.
It’s is much stronger. It’s been a while since I’ve ridden a stock motor carb bike but this thing has tons of grunt and the response is amazing
Bike and trails look amazing! Might have to sell my 350 and 300 TPI and get one lol
Nice to see other Carolina fold enjoying some CO content, we are in central NC
@@AboutaMileAdventures same. Was up in the western part of the state this weekend riding.
@@ncguy6518 Nice, I had some friends visit Brown mountain OHV this weekend, I went to Uwharrie in the sxs, still getting some kinks worked out of the yz250 atm. This is Mr. Prater btw
I was at brown Friday and Saturday. My favorite place to ride single track in NC.
@@ncguy6518 I've never been, ive been itching to go, there and brushy
I would like to know the bike handles deep water, in Canada sometimes we are riding through water that is well over the front tire deep and I hope it doesn't get all wonky.
I don’t have any deep water here right now but stay tuned
Off topic but what bag is that you have around your waist. Look like it goes over the shoulder too?
Wlf enduro pack vest
Sounds like you got it jetted right😂 sounds almost as crisp as a Yamaha🤪💙💪😂😇👨🦳🔥🤩
Are you staying with Motorex brand for premix and the case? Or switching out? Motorex is expensive around my area and limited to the KTM dealer.
I am staying with Motorex for the 2T oil but I used Belray Gearsaver in the trans
What fuel octane is everyone running? Assuming 60:1 oil/fuel ratio.
Uh here in colorado I am running 88 non ethanol
Prepare for the keyboard warriors saying you're ripping too hard for the "break in period "
Nicely done sir proper riding not putting around for the first shred!
Yeah. Screw that. The warranty is only 30 days. If it’s going to break, I want to break it NOW
Glad you like it !!!
I feel like KTM did their homework with the TBI, lets see.
Q: when you turn the bike off and then on again does it stay in the mode you left it in or does it go back to default ?
Yes. It stays in the last mode. Really nice
Is the XC-W going to TBI also or just the XC ?
Maybe the 24’s but the 23’s are still TPI
Isnt that a mx/cross country bike with stand and large tank?
How does it feel on slow technical? Did they put a wider gear ratios on these 2023 xc's?
It’s great in the slow stuff. The gear box is good. 1st is lower than previous XC’s and they are spaced perfectly
@@highlandcycles i can smell the money going to the dealership from my pocket 🔥🔥
Are the AER’s gonna stay on??
For now
Sweet bike. How does she pivot turn?
Good
@@highlandcycles looks clean. Nothing to catch your boots or pants while going for the pivot. Might get one myself. I imagine I’ll will have to budget for some cartridges in the forks. The air fork might not suit hard enduro.
@@ashwillmot2051 no. I think it will need springs for that
🔥pretty sure that 300 has more hp then a 450, it’s a top notch bike 🔥👊🔥⚙️🏍🔨
It is incredible!
@@highlandcycles I hear ya on the coolant cap, nts why went to plastic
@@jeremymullen5378 totally
@@jeremymullen5378 My son's 17 85sx has that and I hate it
Only to the crank. I’d bet a stock 450 would still beat it at the dunes . I have a 300sx on order I’ll be doing that test haha
What’s the plan for the carbed 300?
Actually a lot! Have a new carb coming to test on it and it will be my chainsaw bike/cruiser bike/trail riding bike. It’s street legal and like a couch compared to this one.
@@highlandcycles, new carb? Do tell.
@@siaknijustin wait for it. Should be soon
What is the best set of tires for trail riding? I ride mostly gravel and hard packed clay. You say you don't like the at81s, but I thought they were pretty good. But if you know of something better, I'd love to know
I really like the new Bridgestone X31's
@@highlandcycles Oh really? I currently have the x30s and they're just okay in my opinion. Are the x31s a lot better? Thanks for the reply
@@JacobYoces yes. The 31 front is way better
@@highlandcycles thanks!
So Would this be better than the erzbergrodeo? Is TBI totally better than TPI ?
It is better for pure motor performance in my opinion. The XC is a very different bike from a W model like the erzberg. Not as suited for the gnarly stuff but if you like going fast, it is the best bike I’ve ever ridden
Sounds good bud thanks for the info !
6 gears is ideal. I prefer my 1st gear to be low enough to walk beside the bike without running or burning up the clutch. Technical rocky rides need a low gear, especially when you're pooped at the end of the day.
Yeah. I love 6 speeds. I was just surprised that first is so low on an xc.
It would be interesting to see how your '23 compares to my 2020 300 xc. Never any issues and 175 hrs on stock top end, apparently not everyone had oil pump failures!
It’s not alway an oil pump failure unfortunately. Just shot a video comparing this to a TPI out on the trails.
Thanks, looking forward to seeing that video!
Green Sticker? What State?
Colorado. We don’t have that BS here
Question. Can you roll start the bike ?
Yes.
How does the chassis handling feel? I always had KTM group bikes and recently changed to a Sherco. After making the switch the Sherco feels way more easy to turn and planted on the ground. Curious what this bike handles like compared to a Sherco or even Japanease style chassis dirtbikes.
It feels very planted and turns well. I started on YZ’s and this is very familiar
What spark plug do you use in the 300xc?
BR7EIX
My 300xc is bogging when I give some throttle, no power. The engine idles fine at low rpm but give it gas and it Boggs out. I tried ordering a fuel pump but back ordered until July! Any ideas would be grate Love your videos
@@cazsimon914 Probably the filter/pickup. I have heard of a bunch of them clogging early
🤘👍😁
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Can the map be switched on the move?
Yep, on the fly
Hi, Are you running the KTM recommended oil ratio of 60:1? I know this is a scary topic to bring up. Ha!
Lol. No, 40:1
Could you do, or have done a break in period video for brand New bike?
I didn't really do one. I will do something soon.
@@highlandcycles awesome, I enjoy the channel..
@@brennonrasmussen3526 thanks
5 or 6 speed?
6
Morgan 😂
Yep
да, пиздатый мопед) i like it
The air forks to me on a cross country Enduro bike is a BIG mistake in my book.
I used to agree but we are getting them dialed in and have seen very few failures with the most recent iteration
Have you ridden modern air forks? They are pretty dang good.
I will add that there is a much bigger difference in 2s vs 4s front end feel for the same models.
I ditched the air forks on my 23 I couldn't get them to a place where I felt comfortable. Mostly they felt jittery or became too stiff without any happy medium. Just got them back, hopefully the spring helps 😁
@@highlandcycles Maybe but I have seen air forks come and go for many years. Starting with Yamaha late 70s or early 80s even just a few years ago Kawasaki had them now they don't. Yes have ridden with air forks they are a little harsh. For MX would be ok but off road would say no. A good set of coil spring forks set them and forget them. I mean you don't even like air in your tires! LOL
300 but youride like a 250 guy
Yep. That’s why I wear tires out 🤣😂
I have a friend with a newer fuel injected model....... has to be rebuilt every 60 to 80 hours because it runs so lean......... I have a 2010 carb model....... 300 hrs. Just saying.
I feel the same way but this is very different from his TPI
@@highlandcycles oh really? So they don't lean it out to 100/1? It is a California bike maybe that's why......
@@willrector9716 kinda. The new XC models are closed course only and are back to premix.
@@highlandcycles my 2010 is closed course too......... red sticker. So they changed the fuel injection? What did they do differently? I dunno I will stick with my old bike I suppose
@@willrector9716 yours is from before a bunch of stuff especially in the EU. The big thing they changed was where they were injecting the fuel. Before it was raw fuel into the transfer port and dribbling oil in and hoping it mixed well. Mine is like your bike. Just just no carb. It injects pre mixed fuel and oil in the same place that a carb sends it into the motor.
So do you like it or not? LOL
🤣😂
😂4000$foryamaha
Dang! That bike sounds throaty! NOT like any tpi bike.
So much better
Not helpful at all. This is going to cost me for my own new bike Saturday lol
Hahaha
@@highlandcycles Really interested in the suspension. I have a '19 XCW 300 and have added an XP-One kit to it which helped but it still isn't where I want it. New chassis, AER forks and linkage might be more to my liking and style of riding. Alternatively I won't buy a new bike but will add WP 6500 inserts to the old bike. As a comparison I did have a '20 te250 and really liked the suspension on that bike, seemed more plush and responsive to small low speed hits and better at dealing with higher speeds as well.
No amount of valving fixes those forks lol, cheap design is the problem and ktm gets away with it because what's another 1500 for inserts when your spending 13k on a dirtbike.
I don’t know. These ones are pretty good
@TantoPoint nah lol
So KTM finally got the 2 stroke ok. Finally as the 2019 to 2022's where junk. I know as I own one. Worst peice of crap I ever owned.
I see the expansion chamber no longer has the ribbing on the bend.
Air fork requires air pressure adjusted to your needs as you know, and ....
Agree. Yes, the new one is really good so far
He'll be putting 10,000 more into it
Hahahah. Not in performance. Guards and stuff Yes. Lol