2023 KTM 300XC TBI First Impressions Review
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- čas přidán 28. 11. 2022
- First ride on the all new 2023 KTM 300XC TBI. More to come but for now I'll say this is the best running and most fun KTM bike I've been on. The TBI coupled with the electronic power valve is a big improvement over TPI.
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You may have seen a certain review on this bike saying how bad the suspension is "almost unridable". Keep in mind they are trying to sell you thousands of dollars worth of aftermarket suspension parts.
Anyone who complains about ANY modern suspension definitely did not start riding on bikes from the ‘70s and ‘80s. Ride a ‘78 Suzuki for a year and you’ll know just how rideable everything is nowadays.
@@gpaull2 Yep ,kids today.😁
Many of the same people say the same thing about Xplor suspension on the XCW/FE’s, KYBs on Beta…etc. I think it does depend on the terrain a lot, but most modern bikes are really good for the average rider. The A/Pro racer guys, or those really picky about their setup will change the suspension anyway, on any bike.
That “certain reviewer” also thinks you need 10k in mods to make a bike rideable on single track… 😂
Screw JS. I have bought a lot of stuff from him over the last decade but honestly he is just a grumpy old man now. Oh? There XC race bike isn't set up out of the box for slow speed Colorado choss? Shocking!!
Excellent vid as always. I was super impressed as well. The suspension is excellent after just a few clicker adjustments. I also noticed the more time on the bike, the suspension kept impressing me and got better and better. Totally agree, it's the best 'out of the box' suspension to date of any bike. Great show, PNW Enduro.
Greg, you look good on a KTM! Actually I appreciate you enthusiasm for any sound machine, no matter the color! And as for suspension, glad to hear your thoughts resonate with mine!
This bike is just so much fun to ride, and that's the most important thing imo.
Ill wait until the bugs are out but they look good for the most part. Went back a step to me with the plastic subframe and kickstart delete. Was downer of the E-power valve as well but maybe uts a postitive
The 2024 300 XC is going back to spring forks 👍
How is it compared to Sherco?
I discovered your channel because of your TM 300 review... I hoped you’d talk about the differences between the two. Or was it too long ago?
I came off 2 seasons riding a 350XCF and switched to the 23 250xc. I noticed the frame had much less flex. Much more rigid for sure, I think a lot of guys could be blaming this on the suspension. If you are always sitting down it will feel harsh at times but if you are standing a lot it feels great. I only have 5 hours on mine, curious with some more hours of the frame will gain a bit more flex. Either way I’m really enjoying the bike. It’s an absolute weapon in the woods !
Appreciate the honest review put out here! With the 2024 enduro bikes set to get all the upgrades that the xc and mx bikes got it makes me wonder if it's better to just wait for the XCW/TE to get the spring explorer forks?? I do like the versatility of the air fork for any kind of gp style tracks for jumps. I plan on buying a 2t trail/woods bike to compliment my '21 450sxf mx bike. At first I wanted the 2023 350xcf but felt that it would be too similar to my 450 to justify buying. I'm old so 4t always seemed the easiest way to go, but i hear a lot of good on these new 2t.
Personally I prefer the spring forks. The trip computer and lights are a bonus as well. I do much prefer the new XC transmission over the XCW wide ratio though.
@@PNWEnduro I guess it depends on what you value more...the XC trans or the springs + acc. I havent tried an xcw. I imagine the trans could be annoying in some slower situations.
Hello Greg
Nice to see that you like the TBI. Since you already tried the smooth Smartcarb, I take your comments very seriously. Time for me to start saving money, to get next year a 300 XC-W with a TBI. Currently have a 2014 TE 250 with a Smartcarb and works very well.
The 24 300 XC-W is supposed to have TBI with oil injection like the TPI’s 👎
It boggles myind that we're only just now coming back to electronic power valves, given Yamaha were doing it in the 90s.
It's so much better than the spring loaded system.
What fan kit/part number are you running?
Thanks in advance
Sweet review
Have a look at noahr on CZcams. It’s his bike and he’s got a video detailing the parts a while back.
Curious, have you ridden a tpi bike with a tsp power kit or coober ecu? Wondering if the power and smoothness would be similar to this bike?
I have not.
If anyone has experience on the 2023 250XC for this terrain I would love to know. My 2012 250xc left me wanting in the low end for the steeper trashier climbs out west where the 250 usually needs the higher revs which makes it much more difficult. I do love the 250 for its nimbleness and not sure I want to give it up.
@Infidel Mat I'll hopefully be trying the new 250xc out soon as well. Need some snow to melt first!
Bike is nuts. Where is this trail? Looks super fun!
I believe this is mcnutt/blue mountain in BC.
hi there, hey could you give your pros and cons compared to sherco 300se? i'm looking at either a husky tx300 or sherco. thanks for any info
Both great bikes but very different. TX300 is fuel injected so no need to tune for elevation and temperature, the new TBI motor has tons of power. Air forks are not the best IMO, I prefer spring forks The stator on the Husky is not very powerful so it may be an issue if you want to run lights and you will likely need to add a fan. The Sherco has better suspension and comes with a fan, trip computer and lights. It's still carbureted (for now) so you will either have to jet it or spend the money on a Smartcarb. It's best to try both first if you can. Sherco's feel quite a bit different, lots of people love them right away but some can't seem to get comfortable on them.
@@PNWEnduro thanks for the info
Just out of curiosity, I noticed you swapped maps when at a full stop. Can you flip between the two while moving like on the previous models? Or does it not want to change?
Yes you can, I just find it awkward to use the new switch.
@@PNWEnduro okay good to know. Thanks for the quick response!
How is the low and mid range vs sherco 300?
The low range is better than older ktm models?
Thanks
The TBI hits way harder than the Sherco. Low range is a lot better than the TPI bikes.
I saw a guy last fFiday on the trails he was on a 2023 TX 300 TBI.He was not happy with how it was getting fuel said he was having fueling problems
I've seen a 250 locally that has issues. This 300 runs amazing though.
8 hours on mine. no issues.
As with anything you hear more from the bad experiences than the good. The people having issues are letting everyone know. The people not having issues are out riding.
14 hours on my 300. Having owned 7 different 300xc, I can tell you out of the box it is a MONSTER and better than any model that has come before it. Full stop.
no issues whatsoever - wonder who these people are that have "fueling issues" like what are they up to?
Holy cow its soooooooooo Green! Is this from last week? You may need to let some of us fly up there to get out of the snow bunker hahahahha!
Yes, last weekend but it snowed this week so we probably won’t be able to ride here for at least a few weeks now.
Still the XC,s are focused on "racing" , are the air forks still given the nod over the explorer for us trail hacks ??
Personally I prefer the spring forks. The air forks are just not as plush.
I agree with the author that the air forks are better than any fork I have ridden. That said.. I am taking the lucky spring conversion forks off my 2020 and putting them on this bike. An air fork will never ever never be as compliant on the slow speed square hits. The stock fork isn't horrible but it could be better
Did they fix the ccps on tbi bikes?
Yes.
I want one bad but they lost me at premix
I don't get it. Mixing fuel is not that hard to do and it's one less failure point on the bike.
@@PNWEnduro I agree!
Good, who wants to hang with someone who thinks mixing gas is a chore. Just ride your recumbent bike on the weekend then.
What's with all the smoking out of the sherco?!
Hot exhaust + cold water = smoke.
What happened to your GoPro?
It just randomly shuts off all the time now. Had to buy an 11.
Ima stick with tpi for now… more trustex
Does the Husqvarna have TBI
The 2023 TC and TX bikes are TBI and all new chassis. The TE (enduro) is still TPI and same chassis as 2022.
@@DmitriyAdv thanks
Next year all KTM’s will be running carburetors.
We can only hope!
No, and within a few years carb owners (believe it or not) will be jonesing to get a new TBI bike, wait until you ride one of these and see how reliable everything is! ...and how GREAT it runs and handles.
I hope the GasGas gets the TBI!
It will, on the 2025 models.
Why? I’d like to see GasGas go back to carbs and backup kickstart. I love KTM but won’t be buying any new bikes. Too much electronics.
Ktm cannot sell carb bikes due to emissions regulations and the number of bikes they sell. Sherco and Beta will be the same soon.
@@dougfalstad5227 You still have a flip phone bro?
@@onthethrottle7104 don’t use a cell phone….
Have you ever been on the yz 250x? I wonder which one I should get?
Yes, I have a few times. Without a doubt the KTM. They are not even in the same category IMO.
@@PNWEnduro Awesome. Should I get the 2023 xc 300 now or wait for the 2024 model?
The 2024 will likely have very little changes on the XC so grab a 23. Unless you want the XC-W model which will be TBI on the 2024's.
@@PNWEnduro ok that’s a another question. Coming from yz 250 . I will be racing amateur b class 40 plus in Alabama. So it’s east coast woods. Seems the first gear is actually pretty low on the new xc 300.
Should I get the xc 300 or wait for the 24 xcw 300?
@@PNWEnduro Thank you