Ma Long is kryptonite for Felix. ML slows down the pace of the game. It is more convenient for Felix to play with Fen since they have the same rhythm of play.
Advantages of side angle: 1. Speed can be judged better 2. The ball and table can be seen at all times, not sometimes blocked by the near player. 3. Distance can be judged better. 4. Both players body language as they strike the ball can be seen far better. 5. Camera is usually much closer you can see the game up close. Advantages of top angle. 1. You can see the back of the bat better. To me top angle is like watching a 2D computer game. I know many think the exact opposite, but I cannot fathom why.
@@mryan4452 Yes, you can "enjoy" the show better and feel the speed of the rival with the side angle as it is closer and clearer. But, if you truly know the sport, you will realize the importance of the placement of the ball and to recognize different strategies the players are using. It's not as intuitive to feel what the player is facing and what the player is trying to pull out when you watch from the sides. You simply lose a the sense of the "path of the ball" (and spin) from the side view since you are closer to one side than the other side. Watching Table Tennis isn't just about feeling the speed and watching the players' face expressions clearly.
@@randomfish9451 I've heard that before, but I can see the spin and trajectory well on side view. Is there anything else claimed that is better about the camera behind the player? No offence meant but the 5 points I made are objective factors, what you described is a subjective factor. And on that subjective factor, I believe side view is better. But that's v much open to interpretation, others will say the opposite as it's subjective. But the objective factors I described are more difficult to dispute.
Table tennis is becoming more interesting, more attractive for beginners, and more entertaining with longer rallies, more techniques visualization, more athletic techniques visualization in 2024, thanks to that many professional tournaments choose lightweight balls. Even the new 2024 year Nittaku balls are more lightweight than old Nittaku balls. But these balls need to become more lightweight, for example 2.5grams balls instead of 2.7 gram balls. Lightweight balls are great for table tennis sport. It makes table tennis become more attractive and easier to begin for beginners in our busy world. It is very important to make table tennis become easier for beginners, because nobody will pay few years to train just for capably beginning play amateur social table tennis games in our busy world. Today in our busy world, people require that the minimal beginners training time of table tennis to be just FEW WEEKS, BUT NOT FEW YEARS AS IN THE CURRENT VERSION OF TABLE TENNIS WITH HEAVYWEIGHT BALLS 2.7GRAMS. It can be achieved by apply lightweight balls, for example 2.5grams balls, then it exactly will require beginners to train only few weeks in table tennis with lightweight balls to get skills to begin play serious amateur table tennis games for funs/healths/communications. It will attract billions new beginners come and remain playing the version of lightweight ball table tennis as social sport. Thus of course it will put table tennis sport in new leap high level of popularity in entertaining television and in worldwide social playing sport too. Of course it will put business of table tennis equipment manufacturers in new leap prospect and profits WHEN BILLIONS NEW BEGINNERS CAN EAYSY PLAY REAL SERIOUS AMATEUR GAMES OF THE VERSION OF 2.5GRAMS LIGHTWEIGHT BALL TABLE TENNIS AFTER JUST FEW WEEKS OF TRAINING. (In the current heavyweight ball table tennis, new beginners need minimal few years of training to play amatuer games, so most of them leave table tennis or simply not begin to play table tennis). Thus it is common motivation for all, for ITTF, for table tennis equipment manufacturers, for table tennis tournament administrators, for table tennis sponsors, for new beginners, for professional players ... TO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLY REACH TO CONCENSUS OF APPLYING NEW LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS IN TABLE TENIS, FOR EXAMPLE APPLY THE 2.5GRAMS LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT 2.7GRAMS BALLS. Do you want to attract billions new beginners playing and remaining playing table tennis ? Do you want that your amateur relatives sisters/brothers/sons/daughters/husban/wife ... can easily begin playing serious amateur table tennis games with you for healths/funs/communications after few weeks of training, but not after required few years of beginners training as today ? Do professional players want to have higher salary and higher costs of prizes ? Do tournament administrations and sponsors want more audiance ? Do table tennis equipment manufacturerers want to have billions clients, but not very few clients as today ? All parties will be satisfied by just SIMPLY GLOBALLY SWITCHING TO LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS 2.5GRAMS INSTEAD OF TODAY HEAVYWEIGHT BALLS 2.7GR. Thanks to lightweight balls, it is now possible to exist many equal competitive playing styles in table tennis sport. It makes table tennis to become more wealthy various, more entertaining. If use heavyweight balls, then other playing styles can not be competitive in table tennis sport, but just smashsing - countering style can exist only. It is advised that you boycott all heavyweight balls in table tennis, because heavyweight balls steal your playing time. Heavyweight balls lead to shorter rallies, less ongame time, and more offgame time for picking balls. Thus, the ITTF must as soon as possible apply lightweight balls of 2.5gram to replace the current 2.7 gram balls.
At this point it looks more and more like the Harimoto scenario. Prodigy comes up to the Chinese players with a load of talent and energy and puts up great fights. Everyone thinks at the speed they are growing they will be taking some trophies away from China. Then you realize no matter how much better they get, they are always a little short of their Chinese counterparts. The old king (in this case Ma Long) is too refined and has too many counters to any trick the young challenger has. You can get on almost the same level but not at his consistency. Before the king eventually ages, the young king (Fan Zhengdong, and before you realize it's Wang Chuqin) comes and Timo Boll still have to be the guy when it comes to standing up against the Chinese...
Félix..tu es le meilleur joueur français de tous les temps..avec le revers le plus fatal que je connaisse.. L' avenir est devant toi..tu es déjà sur le toit du monde...les chinois ne dorment plus tranquille....leur hégémonie est en danger .. Je suis convaincu qu' ils ont créé un comité ad-hoc avec prélèvement d' un impôt exceptionnel pour contrer la menace Lebrun.. ❤&👏
N°1/N°2/N°3/N°4 mondiaux avec Lin Shidong qui va très vite monter très haut .... si les chinois ne dorment pas tranquille, que doit on dire des autres !
Ma Long was better but it felt like Felix was so unlucky. If some of the edges and the fault went differently, it could have felt much tighter. He also made some errors though.
Deliberate imitation cannot become stronger. Felix's advantage lies in speed and agility, while Wang Hao's advantage lies in strength and rotation. Felix's physical fitness cannot support him to imitate Wang Hao's playing style😂
sometimes I think people don't understand that only 0.00000001% of the ball needs to be over edge of the table for it to be on the table, and boy that was at least 2%.
You could simply say that if any part of the ball touches the edge, it's good. That is, if the angle of the trajectory of the ball against the side of the table increases after the impact, it's good.
The Top Edge of the table - aka - the playingsurface, which is the painted blue/white part. In this case, this is hitting the side of wooden top, so it is out
@@jackhamilton7906 if you watch it frame by frame, it's actually not that hard to say. Angle of the incoming ball trajectory against the table is much smaller (Felix played the topspin only about 10 cm besides the table) than the angle of the ball trajectory after the bounce off the edge (it hit the floor about 40-50cm besides the table).
ITTF DISGUSTING atleast show to everyone the full last set so everyone can see how felix was robbed and how it was not deserved at all and how brave felix was after the robbery
@@sara.cbc92 he was , if this service is wrong all the carrer serve of otcharov is wrong like a lot of player , he never hidding service, its disgusting they make him lose free point everymatch during this event
@@dongiovanni8899 yes and the last point everybody say its side you can watch in x0 .25 click pause right moment you see the ball ON the edge not the side
So nice to see Felix vs Ma Long in this angle !
🙏🙏
6:02 got Felix screamin 😂😂😭
Yeeees... crazy 😮
lmfao
Ma Long is kryptonite for Felix. ML slows down the pace of the game. It is more convenient for Felix to play with Fen since they have the same rhythm of play.
6:01 when you hit your little toe on the edge of the bed
W comment
lmao
wilhelm type scream
Alexis is that you?
@@darwansebastian9286 Hahaha not quite, but I respect the reference.
I wish they played against each other more frequently because their match are really interesting
indeed
Probably my favourite matchup right now
Ông chú 36 tuổi cứ đánh thế thì thần đồng tài năng trẻ chắc giải nghệ quá
Finally back to the normal camera angle! Please stick with this, DO NOT use that stupid side camera angle again! Thanks!
This is ittf and wtt does that side camera thingy
Advantages of side angle:
1. Speed can be judged better
2. The ball and table can be seen at all times, not sometimes blocked by the near player.
3. Distance can be judged better.
4. Both players body language as they strike the ball can be seen far better.
5. Camera is usually much closer you can see the game up close.
Advantages of top angle.
1. You can see the back of the bat better.
To me top angle is like watching a 2D computer game. I know many think the exact opposite, but I cannot fathom why.
@@mryan4452 Yes, you can "enjoy" the show better and feel the speed of the rival with the side angle as it is closer and clearer. But, if you truly know the sport, you will realize the importance of the placement of the ball and to recognize different strategies the players are using. It's not as intuitive to feel what the player is facing and what the player is trying to pull out when you watch from the sides. You simply lose a the sense of the "path of the ball" (and spin) from the side view since you are closer to one side than the other side. Watching Table Tennis isn't just about feeling the speed and watching the players' face expressions clearly.
@@randomfish9451 I've heard that before, but I can see the spin and trajectory well on side view. Is there anything else claimed that is better about the camera behind the player? No offence meant but the 5 points I made are objective factors, what you described is a subjective factor. And on that subjective factor, I believe side view is better. But that's v much open to interpretation, others will say the opposite as it's subjective. But the objective factors I described are more difficult to dispute.
@@mryan4452 i am with you, side angle is better i want to see the strokes each player takes and not watch the back of one all the time
This is the best camera angle
Fr
Absolutely yes 😂
god yes, I absolutely hate the wtt camera angle that I stopped watching it
Was ein weltklasse Match!
Ма Лонг - философ тенниса!
great game both players, I think Felix needs to work a bit more on staying calm in crucial moments
Will come with experience, hes still only 17
some of these rallies are really insane! Felix gave a good fight, but I think he lost a little bit consistency tho.
Ma Long is old enough to be Felix's father, age-wise.
omg
not crazy tho when thinking lbj is gonna play in the same league wth his son
Yeah, if he got Felix at the age of 18, but thats quite young :D
Bad Highlight once again. Stop skipping points, especially the controversial end.
stop hating
He is giving his opinion, in his own right to do it. And what he is saying is true. They are skipping the best points@@Youngbloodsatwork-kf1vb
@@Youngbloodsatwork-kf1vb yeah when they finally get the camera angle right again, we still got people hatin
Table tennis is becoming more interesting, more attractive for beginners, and more entertaining with longer rallies, more techniques visualization, more athletic techniques visualization in 2024, thanks to that many professional tournaments choose lightweight balls. Even the new 2024 year Nittaku balls are more lightweight than old Nittaku balls. But these balls need to become more lightweight, for example 2.5grams balls instead of 2.7 gram balls.
Lightweight balls are great for table tennis sport. It makes table tennis become more attractive and easier to begin for beginners in our busy world. It is very important to make table tennis become easier for beginners, because nobody will pay few years to train just for capably beginning play amateur social table tennis games in our busy world. Today in our busy world, people require that the minimal beginners training time of table tennis to be just FEW WEEKS, BUT NOT FEW YEARS AS IN THE CURRENT VERSION OF TABLE TENNIS WITH HEAVYWEIGHT BALLS 2.7GRAMS. It can be achieved by apply lightweight balls, for example 2.5grams balls, then it exactly will require beginners to train only few weeks in table tennis with lightweight balls to get skills to begin play serious amateur table tennis games for funs/healths/communications. It will attract billions new beginners come and remain playing the version of lightweight ball table tennis as social sport. Thus of course it will put table tennis sport in new leap high level of popularity in entertaining television and in worldwide social playing sport too. Of course it will put business of table tennis equipment manufacturers in new leap prospect and profits WHEN BILLIONS NEW BEGINNERS CAN EAYSY PLAY REAL SERIOUS AMATEUR GAMES OF THE VERSION OF 2.5GRAMS LIGHTWEIGHT BALL TABLE TENNIS AFTER JUST FEW WEEKS OF TRAINING. (In the current heavyweight ball table tennis, new beginners need minimal few years of training to play amatuer games, so most of them leave table tennis or simply not begin to play table tennis).
Thus it is common motivation for all, for ITTF, for table tennis equipment manufacturers, for table tennis tournament administrators, for table tennis sponsors, for new beginners, for professional players ... TO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLY REACH TO CONCENSUS OF APPLYING NEW LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS IN TABLE TENIS, FOR EXAMPLE APPLY THE 2.5GRAMS LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT 2.7GRAMS BALLS.
Do you want to attract billions new beginners playing and remaining playing table tennis ? Do you want that your amateur relatives sisters/brothers/sons/daughters/husban/wife ... can easily begin playing serious amateur table tennis games with you for healths/funs/communications after few weeks of training, but not after required few years of beginners training as today ? Do professional players want to have higher salary and higher costs of prizes ? Do tournament administrations and sponsors want more audiance ? Do table tennis equipment manufacturerers want to have billions clients, but not very few clients as today ? All parties will be satisfied by just SIMPLY GLOBALLY SWITCHING TO LIGHTWEIGHT BALLS 2.5GRAMS INSTEAD OF TODAY HEAVYWEIGHT BALLS 2.7GR.
Thanks to lightweight balls, it is now possible to exist many equal competitive playing styles in table tennis sport. It makes table tennis to become more wealthy various, more entertaining. If use heavyweight balls, then other playing styles can not be competitive in table tennis sport, but just smashsing - countering style can exist only.
It is advised that you boycott all heavyweight balls in table tennis, because heavyweight balls steal your playing time. Heavyweight balls lead to shorter rallies, less ongame time, and more offgame time for picking balls.
Thus, the ITTF must as soon as possible apply lightweight balls of 2.5gram to replace the current 2.7 gram balls.
Stop skipping points? It is not football that scored 3-1
Finally some best of 7 games
Bravo Félix ! Super joueur !👏👏👏
0:32 referee was about to give point to Felix but then he saw Ma Long and gave him the point
At this point it looks more and more like the Harimoto scenario. Prodigy comes up to the Chinese players with a load of talent and energy and puts up great fights. Everyone thinks at the speed they are growing they will be taking some trophies away from China. Then you realize no matter how much better they get, they are always a little short of their Chinese counterparts. The old king (in this case Ma Long) is too refined and has too many counters to any trick the young challenger has. You can get on almost the same level but not at his consistency. Before the king eventually ages, the young king (Fan Zhengdong, and before you realize it's Wang Chuqin) comes and Timo Boll still have to be the guy when it comes to standing up against the Chinese...
Wow, Felix is trolling the dragon. 😂 that edge point was so on point even dragon got frustrated. 😂
Феликс,красавчик,немного не хватает опыта(молодой),но очень быстро растёт,а последний мяч,ну очень спорный,могло быть всё по другому для Малонга😢
Старый Ма Лонг рвал Филю, рвёт и будет рвать!!!! Скоро Филя выйдет в тираж.
Félix..tu es le meilleur joueur français de tous les temps..avec le revers le plus fatal que je connaisse..
L' avenir est devant toi..tu es déjà sur le toit du monde...les chinois ne dorment plus tranquille....leur hégémonie est en danger ..
Je suis convaincu qu' ils ont créé un comité ad-hoc avec prélèvement d' un impôt exceptionnel pour contrer la menace Lebrun..
❤&👏
N°1/N°2/N°3/N°4 mondiaux avec Lin Shidong qui va très vite monter très haut .... si les chinois ne dorment pas tranquille, que doit on dire des autres !
@stephane arrete tes chinoiseries
throat must hurt after a match like this ,
shout without hurting is also part of routine training
Game top💯🔥⚡️
Ma Long was better but it felt like Felix was so unlucky.
If some of the edges and the fault went differently, it could have felt much tighter.
He also made some errors though.
마롱은 대체... 플레이에서 단단함이 느껴짐
Felix is goning be a beast, Ma is still the man.
Good win
Паренёк всё ближе подходит к Малонгу
the angle is good now but they then fuck up the tournament scoring lmfao
Kosmos level👏🏓👏🏓👍
felix should study wang hao's gameplay. Ma long's weakness is wang hao's style.
Deliberate imitation cannot become stronger. Felix's advantage lies in speed and agility, while Wang Hao's advantage lies in strength and rotation. Felix's physical fitness cannot support him to imitate Wang Hao's playing style😂
sometimes I think people don't understand that only 0.00000001% of the ball needs to be over edge of the table for it to be on the table, and boy that was at least 2%.
You could simply say that if any part of the ball touches the edge, it's good. That is, if the angle of the trajectory of the ball against the side of the table increases after the impact, it's good.
The Top Edge of the table - aka - the playingsurface, which is the painted blue/white part. In this case, this is hitting the side of wooden top, so it is out
Backhand at 4:24 wow
Keep this angle please
I'm not sure, but I think Lebrun was a little bit mad here 6:00
Ma long 👍
6.02 Arrrrgghhhhhhhh ouchhhh
В прошлом году мне сказали что молодой проиграл Лонгу в один из последних раз лол
La fessée ...😂😂😂
Imagine a 17 year old Felix against a 17 old Ma Long....... Who would win?
Im french and i still have no idea wtf is Felix saying when he gets a point
😂
Citol😘
The clock is ticking.....
Is the French guy shouting things in Chinese?
anders lind hasn't comment yet?
A blitz match and you skip some points on the last game ?? ......
Ma Long always beats Felix Lebrun 😅😂
Had it gone to the decider, Ma Long would have lost. You see that Ma Long started tiring after game 4, and his performance was suffering.
But it did not, so better luck to felix nxt time
馬龍
bla bla bla
Ma Long getting old now..look to slow now compare him long time ago..whatever he is the Legend..the best TT player ever...but he still the best..
to think felix is half his age and is so close to beating him. amazing
2:35 , 9:14
I saw a french video on CZcams saying the Chineses fear the Lebrun’s brother, well.. not Ma Long
That kid nearly beated Ma Long. Maybe Felix will beat Ma Long. Experience helped Ma Long.
Last point should be Felix's point
hard to say
@@jackhamilton7906 if you watch it frame by frame, it's actually not that hard to say. Angle of the incoming ball trajectory against the table is much smaller (Felix played the topspin only about 10 cm besides the table) than the angle of the ball trajectory after the bounce off the edge (it hit the floor about 40-50cm besides the table).
@@xTTfreakx damn youre right... where is the hawkeye...
According to the highlights, we saw a devastating victory for Lebrum.
Not really
according to the highlights, Ma Long won lol
No. Ma Long was leading 10-8, and there was an controversial point, which went to Ma
Bring ADAM BOBROW. It seems commentators have died
this angle is completely not interesting to watch, one cannot see the real speed/ is that difficult to understand?
you could not be more wrong, go kick rocks kid😊
Hopeless kid, but don't give up, try again when ML 53. maybe 63.
kid is so unsimphatic person
ITTF DISGUSTING atleast show to everyone the full last set so everyone can see how felix was robbed and how it was not deserved at all and how brave felix was after the robbery
He wasn't robbed.
watch the video in the live section
@@sara.cbc92 he was , if this service is wrong all the carrer serve of otcharov is wrong like a lot of player , he never hidding service, its disgusting they make him lose free point everymatch during this event
@@JesseWhite10 the ball is hit over the table during serves
@@dongiovanni8899 yes and the last point everybody say its side you can watch in x0 .25 click pause right moment you see the ball ON the edge not the side
В конце,явно было сбоку стола.
bad frenchie
The kid is 17 years old and ranked 5th in the world! Amazing achievement for European table tennis. Not bad at all!