The Bizarre Case of Nathan Carman
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2022
- Nathan Carman and his mother, Linda, set out for a fishing trip in 2016. They disappeared, with Nathan miraculously being found a week later aboard a life raft, his mother nowhere to be seen. What could have been a tragic accident, takes a turn when, 3 years previous, someone else close to Nathan Carman was the victim of an unsolved murder.
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On June 15, 2023, Nathan Carman was found dead in his cell awaiting trial which was due to go ahead in October. His cause of death is not known but it's believed to have been self-inflicted. He was 29 years old.
Somehow this brings me relief. He gave me very bad vibes just watching him and his piercing, yet vacant stare. He was cold and clinical.
I literally came back to this video to tell you this. It's crazy how on top of things you are. Good on you. 😀
@@raymac5235 lol same 😅
oh i was just about to comment that he died... beat me to it
Wow, this case was strange, I'm not sure how it would go, even tho I think he was a lot more understanding to what's going on the some give him credit for
Dude, I’ve told you this before. I’m the retired coroner of Little Rock, Ar and you and the Coffeehouse Crime guy are my go to true crime creative geniuses. I had a tendency to ignore most crime stuff since I was on the death job for so long. But, you make it enjoyable and I occasionally spit my coffee across the room when you deliver a zinger as only you can do. Thanks.
I love Coffee House Crime, also, along with Mike of course! They have the best channels!
Ha me too I love the unexpected giggles that he throws our way🙈😁😅
i'm with you, mike has the best such channel on youtube. fantastic host...
Aaah here,Mike and coffee house crime ♥️ ❤
Mike makes murder as lighthearted as possible lol
Moral of the story:
"Don't name your boat something stupid because it could show up on the news."
So I should sell 'The Overcompensator'? Dammit.
@@jedross2136 just rename it the Tastefully Discreet.
@@jedross2136 I'll trade you my "I
I'm gonna name my imaginary boat "Gotta laugh to keep from Crying!"
Same thing I'm putting on my cremains urn! Now I'll have one of those for sure! 😂
Monkey Pox!
22:16 I was getting ready to say that he looked pretty damn good for being out to sea for 8 days and really freaking calm as hell!
Even his facial hair was perfectly groomed
Tbf people with ASD tend to seem ‘robotic’ or monotone in general. I do think this case is very suspicious though.
When I heard you said "insurance", I expected the dance but nothing happened
then I realized, oh, it's not life insurance... And yes, I strongly agree you need an INHERITANCE dance or an "it's not about the money" dance (when it obviously is)~ LOL.
Awesome content as always, Mike~
Yes! A "mama's money" dance. 🤣
"The dance".... love it! ❤❤❤💯💯👍
He can't just dance every time. It'd take the fun away. Although unique dances for each kind of murder motive would be fun.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yessss!!!... less true crime more Soul Train.
I’ve seen every That Chapter video as a long time subscriber, never thought I’d see myself in one! Shout out to Coast Guard Boston! This was a wild case for us.
cool. where? timestamp?
@@phoenixdavida8987 weirdo
@@keridesireeGerBaldi Why is he wierd for asking that?
Did you interact directly with Nathan?
@@keridesireeGerBaldi have you seen your name? Who's the weirdo... maybe the guy had a personal experience with Nathan and the commenter was intrigued. Have you ever been in one of these videos? Especially one this strange. Fix up, nobody likes a negative clown like you
The similarities between him & Martin Bryant are uncanny. A relief to know he has died- he absolutely would forever be a risk to others.
As always, thank you for watching, ‘cause I love ya! If you wanna see two true crime videos every week please subscribe!
plot twist: he was never autistic...he pulled a kaiser soze and faked it... brilliant sociopath!
*already subscribed. Listen, we were in Boston and nyc at the same time. It hurt so bad that I couldn’t meet you. I found out you were arriving in Boston and literally spontaneously right after I picked up a job that would take me through my birthplace (Boston) the same night. After I finished work I hung out in nyc waiting for my train back to Connecticut and you were in nyc. Drove me batty that we were both in the same fricken place, twice, but couldn’t connect. Sigh. Next time, alright? Alright!*
Love ya back, Mike! From Michigan, the Great Lakes State, USA.
Mike you are in a class of your own, been subscribed since your very early days (Captain!) Love ya back! Hugs from Worcester, England x
Already a subscriber and have been for awhile. I love ya too! Watching from Canada 🇨🇦💞💞💞
“That went down about as well as chickenpox did”
Mike, you make me burst out laughing 🤣
Always a good ol one!
I never think of how much work Mike is actually doing. I would never be able to find such an amiable mix of seriousness, quality editing, and story telling on like an old school tv channel. 29 minutes no commercials and another great video. Mike is a machine.
He definitely has someone who does his editing/post-production on his videos
The day he doesn't say: Let's give it a G...🏃I am calling the cops. No shame No games
the best kind of machine!! sexy.. quirky.. smart as a whip.. quick witted.. funny AF and dedicated to his craft..
check out some of his vids from 3 years ago.. same quirky style.. just a lil stiff and less sure.. now his timing is impeccable!! I could watch and listen to him all day..
oh wait.. sometimes I do!! thanks to youtube binging!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@puffdaddy69 think so? I guess I like the idea of a self produced thing so much I forgot he can def afford to pay a lackey now. But in the beginning, same stuff.
@@sabbymw 100% he definitely has a team that helps him at this point. No discredit to him but he definitely has an editor and maybe people to find topics/write scripts. That’s just how these bigger channels operate. Either way love his content
This is so crazy ! Years ago. My boss than and I cleaned there house Linda’s house . I remember seeing Nathan in his RV . She was always on edge because of Nathan . This is so sad !
Fake news
@@electricaf365 troll.
You’re only saying that because he’s autistic. You have know idea if she was on edge . And remember being Autistic has nothing to do with him killing them .
@nancywright2680 You're the one that's assuming that it had to do with his autism. He'd already proven to be a danger, he held a knife to another kid's neck as a child and had a history psychotic breaks, why is it such a stretch to think she'd be afraid of him especially especially now that he was older and bigger.
His greed got him arrested
My fiancé and I have been watching you every week for two years, since our first date 😌 Thanks for the great content!
I sense Miles is single 🤣
EVERYWEEK DAT DEDICATION WOW!!
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@@IHateGuysFullofShit something tells me you know all about that
Sad.
His mother was a neighbor of mine in Middletown CT. She had the most beautiful yard and dogs. And, she was always very nice to me whenever I would see her. Such a tragedy.
What kind of dogs did they have?
I would be in shock if I knew a family and something like this happened
She drained one of his trust funds though.
@@Bill365ill She also knew there was more where that came from. So, essentially, no, she didn't drain it (since there was more).
@@lisahinton9682 lol
I'm in Connecticut and I remember when the boating "accident" happened. This was all over the news..i remember thinking there's more to this once I saw the kid yapping on the news. May his mom rest in peace.
I miss CT...just moved to TN. He doesn't explain how it went from finding the boat bringing on water to his mother just vanishing. Ridiculous story. Here's an UPDATE: Nathan Carman has died in federal custody, according to a new court filing from federal prosecutors. “The United States received information from the U.S. Marshal that Carman died on or about June 15, 2023.
Super weird to see this on a channel I regularly watch. My friend went in a couple of dates with him way back around right before this went down. He was a huge creep. After not talking for a bit dude even tried to meet up with her again clearly low-key trying to guilt her into another date because "his mom just died and needed someone to talk to". I 100% believe he did it.
What were they thinking, letting a special-needs person have a gun hobby?! Was he not aware of his emotional limitations? They all sound like they were maximally messed up trust-funders.
@@quickchris10 What limitations? Autism is a gift.
@@flawedplan Psychosis? Less so.
@@flawedplan they said in his case he lacked ability to empathize and they knew this early on, so if they were trying to teach him to work up a little semblance of empathy, he would have known this was a shortcoming. People do know their shortcomings, so they can adapt and grow and focus on their abilities.
@@flawedplan Also what do you mean, ``what limitations;'' that everyone doesn't have limitations?
Wow! To be in a family which has that amount of money and to live the way they did, yet be so entitled and abusive is just perplexing to me.
It's disgusting! Yet u see so many poor ppl who find have happy fulfilling lives.
Yeah that’s what money does
Think about it: a bunch of people who were born into wealth and assured of it throughout their lives, were coddled in some ways and abused in others and had a shitload of idle time and lots of cash...that's a recipe for some bad behavior.
I'm sure the autism didn't help. He doesn't exactly come across as empathetic.
“Live the way they did” not only did he have mental health problems and a dad who divorced his mother
His mom and dad literally had him kidnapped and sent to a behavior place
I had no idea he was charged recently. So glad to hear it. I assumed he got away with murder twice.
"It must have been terrifying!" - "Um, yes." You can tell he had forgotten he was supposed to pretend to have emotions.
LOL... I couldn't help but laugh when Mikey said the Mistress, 62 years YOUNGER than the grandpa, "earned" her the money if she did him in....
I'm always excited when Mike gets a new addition to his wardrobe!
That Polaroid shirt is epic!!! My favorite addition... So far lol 😉
For sure!!
Indeed, this dude is on a roll. He should begin his own Mike collection. Now to watch it, came to check out the shirt comment first.
Lol
Mike, you just get better and better! Channels with big teams behind them have nothing on you big dog! Thanks for your hard work and dedication. It's why we love you across the globe. ❤ 🇨🇦
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Indeed,,🇹🇿
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Totally agree...he's funny and love his vids..he doesn't say like and subscribe every 2 seconds either! Love this guy😜💚🤍🧡
As someone with a kid with autism, it is challenging as the mind of such a kid is just wired differently. Not necessarily malicious like Nathan, just different. from the story of Nathan Carman, it seemed like he had loving people around him, but when his favorite horse died, something broke within him.
I wonder if he's also schizophrenic. Symptoms often don't get bad until someone is in their twenties.
IN actual fact Nathan tried to get his inheritance from his grandfathers estate in 2017 after his mother died but the law firm and executor denied it and so did the courts in 2019 because of the suspicion he did it. He is guilty and I hope they can prove it to a jury.
Mike, I would love to see you do the story of millionaire John Pinder out of Utah. That story has everything, ostriches, an African lion that rides around in a pickup truck , dynamite and criminal stupidity, and so much more.
😯 I must see this.
I’ve been in Utah 20 years and I’ve never heard of this. I’m so ashamed of myself lol
I’m gonna go look it up now thank you !
Sounds rad
@@Anne-uk6zp same!!
@@Anne-uk6zp if it's true I wanna c it also
This definitely is the best true crime channel on CZcams. Hats off to you Mike.
Those “behavioral camps” some people send their kids to are all out, downright torturous and any parent should be ashamed for doing that to their child. I have a close friend who was forced into one and they still have enduring trauma from the entire experience, it is horrific and often penalizes children with mental problems for exhibiting the symptoms of those problems, something they often cannot help
It teaches them discipline, my best friend was sent there for messing up a lot at home and doing drugs, he went away there and came back a better man. Just graduated from college and we couldnt be more proud
Need big brother to crack down on it then.
BUT I DO GET WHAT YOU TRYING TO SAY
Mike, you are a great storyteller. I love your witty sense of humor. You surely make each story interesting and come to life. Thank you for your time and efforts.
Interesting how much more articulate Nathan sounds when he's defending himself in court.
Right.
Yeah but why on earth is he making argument himself?!?
Compared to when?
That’s the first thing I noticed. Was he representing himself in this case?? Because it didn’t look like he was giving evidence from the witness stand.
He’s a moron whose playing the “Dummy” hand whilst thinking he’s too clever for investigators.
I’m going with guilty on both cases of murder. Although it might be possible that his grandfather was a mercy killing or perhaps his grandfather had been in on his own death and Nathan is simply sticking to the scenario that his grandfather had laid out for him to follow?
It’s not a likely scenario but it’s also not an impossible one either.
@@asmodiusjones9563 I was thinking the same thing!
Inheritance Dance you say?
Don’t be silly. You’d pay someone else to dance for you.
Great video as always Mike.
Your ability to describe unique characters in a way that’s interesting and entertaining without ever mocking is beyond admirable.
@@aprilmay1700 lol exactly. The life insurance dance is a dead giveaway of the mocking 😂
@@aprilmay1700 MLE H may have been referring to the victims when saying "not mocking" not the perpetrator. (Who definitely deserves ALL the mocking Mike can come up with!)
Man, he mocks the killers *relentlessly*
To clarify:
Mocking and bullying are aimed at an inherent trait or feature over which one has no control; such as the idiosyncratic social styles along the autism spectrum. Mike does not do that.
Now, ridiculing or pointing out when someone is just being an idiot or an asshole, that’s fine! Join the crowd!!!
@@mleh2512 mocking means to tease someone. It doesn’t have to be over a specific trait. You can be mocked just because you say or do something stupid.
I'm still wondering where he was for the week he was missing. Clearly he wasn't lost at sea because nobody could be in as fine a condition as Nathan.
Good question 🤔
Shan maree Walker ... Those little "life rafts" are well equipped with food and water. Also flares etc.. I'm not sure for how long these materials are meant to last.
Lmao, if he did kill his mom for the money that means he planned this….I’m sure he was well aware of how to stay alive….prob shot his mom fucked the boat up to sink and had a stay-alive-bag that he sunk when he saw someone was coming to get him( binoculars-food-water- sat phone- who knows what else) he didn’t/ doesn’t want to die or be broke
Someone should've checked the remains of food on his teeth, if scientists can figure out what cavemen ate from fossilized remains they surely can figure out what an alive man ate the past week
Ugh i know!! His condition was SO fine🤤
Sounds like Nathan would have gotten away with it (if indeed he's guilty) if he didn't get greedy and go after the boat insurance. I bet he didn't see that can of worms being opened.
$7M is not much - if he can go through $500,000 in a short time. He would need every last $. I am sure he sorely regrets his claim for that boat. Does show though if you go out to sea with someone in a boat and shove them overboard. You can get away with murder. Just claim you turned your back and when you looked again they were gone.
Some of the cases you cover are so insane. I don’t understand how they don’t get more coverage. You’re doing theses people a justice by covering it.
I'm from CT. Tons of coverage to come believe me. Scary eyes on that guy
Couldn't agree more 👏.. He does a bloody great job!
The only cases that ever get coverage ate when a black man regardless of circumstances receives harm at the hands of a white man.
Actually there are multiple episodes on other CZcamsrs… Mike is somewhat always late covering his stories….
If you're in the true crime community you know about this case
This kid us a helluva lot more articulate in court than he ever was in previous interviews
Most likely heavily coached by his legal team.
In the interviews he sounds like an alien that forgot to study for his human personality test until the night before
Also doesn’t speak in that slow, measured way, as he did during his initial media appearances
It's amazing how the prospect of a $7M inheritance can up your game
“And the case went cold” Miller Lite commercial immediately starts playing. Well played CZcams.
Wow the kidnapping part of story. I have a whole new respect for Paris Hilton after hearing how that happened to her. When she confronts her family I was crying.
That place probably brought the evil out.
I saw a couple of documentaries about those schools. They were brutal!
A few months ago I introduced my parents to your channel, and now we all watch your videos together! We love you Mike
Agree❤
As a former part time commercial fisherman from New England, this case has greatly interested me.
So glad to see you cover it! 🌿
So, what's the issue with fishing the underwater canyon? Why is it dangerous?
@@andytyler6252 Nothing inherently dangerous @ Block canyon, aside from sea/weather conditions - seems like the dangerous factor here is Nathan's decision making skills / judgment.
@@houseofsolomon2440 Does the surface swell at Block Canyon increase more than the northern waters due to the depth and aggressive sea wall that appears to be there? Or was it just the distance from land that the mother was probably concerned about with Forrest Gump at the controls?
@@houseofsolomon2440 Besides going to Block Canyon being (perhaps) a poor decision, especially on top of the poor decisions he made with boat repairs, is it possible that he was also just INCORRECT about where the boat was when the alleged crisis occurred? Like have you heard/read anything about what kind of navigational equipment he had, and whether he understood how to use it?
That sounds like a fun job. Makes me think of the perfect storm.
UPDATE to the case (Aug, 2022): VT Judge just ruled that Carman is to be held without bail until his trial as he "is a flight risk and a potential danger due to the seriousness of the charges, lack of strong family, employment or community connections, his involvement with firearms and the ongoing feud with his family over his late grandfather's inheritance"
Thanks for that
Wonder if he'll pick off his relatives one by one to get a bigger and bigger inheritance
I laughed so hard at your pause, your side shrug, your expression: "The Murder Kid". Go, Mike! And omg Dbl crack up that the young lover "earned" any money she was receiving, ouchy LOL.
it's crazy how much your channel has grown since i first started watching you, and your content is consistently respectful to victims and funny without being at their expense. you never fail to tell the details in an interesting way.
He deserves it. Hard work really pays
I saw him first, which means i won.
Agreed. Been watching since the beginning. Knew he would make it big.
People like his content. They are going to subscribe
Ditto. I remember when he was super calm and didn't joke around as much. He's even added more humor these past few months and I love it. NONE of these crimes are funny at all, but sometimes the humor helps to get through these horrific stories.
Where would I be in life with the old “give it a goo” lol love this guy!
His whole persona gives off a cold, calculating and detached person - his eyes especially are blank. He looks as guilty as they come.
That could just be autism. While i DO think he’s guilty, im also autistic and for a good chunk of my childhood, i was very reserved and didn’t communicate my feelings unless it was something i absolutely loved. Im different now and i express myself more “normally”, but if he is autistic, you can’t really use eyes or body language against him.
That certainly in part due to the autism, but yes I would agree given the plethora of other circumstantial evidence
That’s also an affect that’s common in autistic people. Not saying he ain’t guilty, but judging the facial expressions of an autistic person as you would someone who wasn’t autistic is an unreliable area.
Not unusual for autistic people, also sounds like he had other disorders that lead to hallucinations and paranoia.
Mike is better than half the stuff on tv. This young man should have a career in the media. So entertaining.
You’d think he’d be able to afford a better mic with a million subs.
Can we all just appreciate the time and effort mike put's into getting these great storie's and putting them out twice weekly over the last few year's the man's a legend thank's Mike!
Thanks mum.
Everything you said
And he does all the things himself, the script, the editing, it's all him. Mike is great.
@@sumimasenq1 totally agree mate!
agreed!!! mike you are the best!!!!!
Mike really has a way of narrating. With all due respect to the case, I kept wanting to laugh because of how Mike interjects some thoughts like the boat's name as chickenpox, "isn't that a condition?" . I have to admit, I lost it right there.
"Soak in that sea air, virtually, raise the thingy... sail, and we head off."
My kinda story.
Nathan had them all fooled until he showed everyone how intelligent he truly was.
Exactly who questioned his intelligence? Im not even sure why intelligence was mention by you to begin with.
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It's because he was perceived to be _slow_ by his family and others.
Gotta stop you right there, people with autism are very intelligent. You might want to so some research.
@@haidengeary8277 Next time, you might want to be more knowledgeable about a subject before you pop off an unnecessary attitude.
@@crysn315 i have autsim but am not like nathan
"Starring Wilson the volleyball, with a heart of gold." Hilarious
So essentially he killed his grandpa to get inheritance but that money would get gambled away by his mom, so he killed her too.
Ha! Bout sums it up.
Mike must be finally enjoying his well deserved CZcams money, look at all these new fancy shirts he has gotten lately! This one even has a stand up collar and more than 3 buttons! It isn't even navy blue! Good to see him thriving.
That's not a new shirt lol
Bet his wife bought them
Cant wait until he opens a merch store!
Boy he really is living high on the hog.
@@allengilby3054 he has one! i bought his shirt for my husband
Imagine thinking that "I lost it" is EVER an acceptable response to "where's your gun?" It's CRAZY that that is legal. There is no excuse for losing a lethal weapon that you had to effing register to buy.
Nobody loses something on purpose
I could listen to Mike say the word “Putty” ALL DAY!!! Love That Chapter!!!
Is anyone else addicted to these stories? Love the music. And Mike has a million and one great facial expressions while telling the stories 🤣!!!!
Just based on his number of subscribers (fellow addicts 😁🥰), I'd not be surprised to learn of a new DSM-5 code dedicated solely to Mike addiction coming soon! I mean, if I had to guess. 😉 He really is the best, without a doubt!!
Been watching for turd teen months
@@RONPEE-STINGER lololol! 🤣
@@AmyBe573 .. Stop fangirling.
@@rullmourn1142 But how? And, more importantly...why? 😋 If ever there existed someone to bring out the fangirl in me, there is no one better than Mike to do so! 😁
It's almost as if being wealthy with tons of cash almost isolates and puts a huge target on your head making finding anyone who genuinely loves you impossible.
In no way does being wealthy result in that. Why on Earth would it? That doesn't even make sense. Sure, you might have a target on your back, probably not, but, maybe I guess. But, to have it isolate you to the point you can't form relationships? I'm lost on the logic.
Uh huh. Poor rich people, how can they live in happiness with all their millions? We should start a charity for the downtrodden wealthy. 🙄
@@acaldwell64 oh it's a common theme in all mikes videos. People getting murdered for financial gain
I can tell you its a curse, i wish i didnt have 50 million dollars because i cant find that true love…thankfully i can surround myself with whatever i want and do as i please…
@@MagdaleneDivine How does that explain what you said? Most murders are driven by financial means.
When I was 15 my father was a senator and a leader in a church and a wealthy businessman and he wanted me to go to his church and I didn’t like his church so he had me shipped to one of those places in Idaho. They put me in a room very small room with a bed in the middle of that five point restraints the floor walls and ceiling or pink carpet Zane Nelson was my psychologist. And they left me there for days nobody ever was held accountable for the things that went on in that place
That was in the 80s I can only imagine what it was like for this guy because I was mentally healthy and it was hard to get through
Have just come across your channel a couple of days ago and can not stop watching. I love they way you tell a story and the humor you inject is absolutely on par. Keep up the awesome work. Cheers from Auckland New Zealand.
Having the worst day. Chronic illness sucks. My day just got better. Thanks Mike. Love your videos!
@Allison Miller. You have been added to my prayers. God bless you and your family 💘
Same here Allison. A good portion of my life (mostly in bed) is CZcams and most of that is true crime. 😁 Somehow getting into stories like this take me away for a bit. Sorry to hear about your illness. It's definitely not fun.
I feel you - hope the flare up isn’t too terrible and you’re able to cope x
@@VioletJoy hello fellow bedridden disabled buddy! Same, a large portion is spent on CZcams watching crime videos lol
Thank you everyone 💕
There's a lot of true crime stuff everywhere, but Mike comes across as that buddy that always has amazing stories to tell over a couple pints
True 😂
it's our Irish sense of humour, insulting/taking the mick out your friend is seen as a sign that "ya love them" lol.
@@maryirish8382 he definitely 'has the craic', I adore that aspect of Irish culture
@@maryirish8382 There are times when Mike sort of reminds me of Podge and Rodge A Scare at Bedtime, even though he's nothing like them.
Yessss🍺🍺🍺🍺...😎
I only know of about 1 in 20 of your stories Mike, and for someone who hates repeats of anything at all that’s a huge bonus for me. Just one reason I love your channel so much 👍
I CANNOT WAIT to see the inheritance dance!! 🥳🤣🕺🏻🙌💰 lol
Love love looooove Mike and this channel!
We love you more mike thanks for being here for us maintaining this awesome content!!!
Thank you, Mary!
@@ThatChapter Mike 🐐
Not to mention his excellent use of punctuation. Swoon!
“Never gonna give you up” For the New dance.
@@ThatChapter Nice Shirt!
Hi Mike! I just read an article about Nancy Crampton Brophy. She wrote a book on how to kill your husband and is now being convicted or has been convicted of killing her husband. I'd love to hear the details of that one. There's also the Browns Chicken murders in Palatine, IL. I'd like to see you do that story as well. Love what you do. Always looking forward to new episodes.
Yes Mike please do those And the lane Bryant Murder in tinley park Illinois
Yes I read that article too, absolutely crazy 🤪
yes!! So weird! It was actually a news headline here in Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 I don't know if Mike gets to reading comments, but he has a Reddit page where you can suggest stories for him to investigate. I might try that and see what happens
there are tons of videos on it already
He has a link where you can submit a case that you'd like to see him cover. I'll see if I can find it and you can put in the request
Just awful. Killed his grandpa. Was not arrested. Then Killed his Mom. So sad. He looks mighty good to have been in the water for a week. ??? He is extremely intelligent!! He did it for the money and freedom!!
I just wanted you to know ive had a really really bad year, lost some people very close to me, im homeless, got dumped again by the same douche. But thru everything i watch your videos and i swear youve gotten me thru. Your videos are what ill watch to stoo panic attacks. So thank you mike!
Hugs rox I hope life gets better xx
How do you allow the same douche to get back with you and then dump you?
1st time a douche, always a douche.
No matter how bad it gets. Remember it's a moment. Some longer than others. It shall pass..stay blessed
So glad they're finally charging this dude, thanks for covering. Cheers Mike
Hi Mike hope you had an amazing holiday. Good to have you back twice a week. I’m away from home but the most important thing is I’ve got WiFi for Tuesday and Friday. Priorities 😆♥️
Me too
"They'd be like look at that!"
Processed to pull out a gif of Jaws! 😂 You never fail to make me laugh, Mike!! ❤❤
So, so, so many narcissistic humans walking the earth today completely void of any empathy and full of greed.
Seriously Mike, thanks for all the work you do. It’s always a dope upload and everyone looks forwards to Tuesday’s and Fridays more because of it.
Means a lot to read that, thank you!
Facts!
@@ThatChapter I love that you interact with your fans/subscribers and you're so appreciative! You are a breath of fresh air on this platform my friend 💛🙏💛
@@ThatChapter no problem man. It’s crazy how you’re usually able to put out 2 half hour videos a week considering all the research, audio and video references and even additional materials from people’s private lives that are relevant to the case on top of editing and filming. It’s impressive shit.
@@Jeagernotsarah it’s the best thing getting a like & reply from the captain
He’s incredibly guilty, it boggles the mind
You're STILL too good to be true! When you said the boat part at the beginning and then said, "Don't you ever forget", I literally laughed out loud. You are so clever, you make it look easy. Wishing you continued success!
I just love the delivery of his version of the crimes he covers on his channel. For some reason no matter how awful the information is. I don’t leave feeling anxious & scared. It’s almost enjoyable in a weird way if that makes sense. The humour & sarcasm make it easier to listen to & watch. I love true crime & the dark side of life, it intrigues me but almost makes me quite scared so between Bailey Sirien and That Chapter. I’m able to watch this channel fully to the end with out been completely traumatisEd
🥺😱🤯. So Thank you for yr channel it’s the perfect channel, informative light hearted with out been disrespectful ☺️
Being someone who lives in southern Connecticut I remember this story was EVERYWHERE!!! I remember seeing the Coast Guard Blackhawk style helicopters going up & down the coast for days.
@Mark Stewger @John Brennan Local angle for me as well, as Grandpa built nursing homes nearby and had a house in Vermont, also close.
I saw this case on ID about a year ago and remembered thinking that I couldn't believe how they were buying his gimp act. Amber Heard is a better actor than this guy! Glad to see they are finally charging him
Lol From Boston + remember this so well also. I'm loling cuz I believed him when it happened. When I saw he was arrested just recently + reheard the story...I don't know how I believed him. Playing the autistic card maybe got me? The fact I can't understand murdering your mother at sea, stranding yourself while doing this hoping someone finds you for an inheritance you'd receive eventually anyway may play a factor in why I believed him 🤷♀️ I'm glad he was finally arrested + hope the rest of his life is complete misery. He got all my sympathy back when he planned + executed this twisted strange heinous act against the 1 woman on the planet who truly loved him.
Dolphin?
John, I live in RI. This guy launched the boat from a Marina in the town I live in!
12:12 "gave trick-or-treaters chicken guts cause he thought it was funny". LOOOOL. He was 100% right. It's hilarious.
to be fair, the kids did say trick *OR* treat.
I think this is a tricky one. The majority of people don’t understand the complexities of Autism.
I’m not saying he didn’t do it but believing that him “not acting how he should” in traumatic and stressful situations is then proving his guilt is not relative to autistic people
no one has any way of knowing if someone is acting 'the way the should' unless you actually *know* what their baseline is. A close friend might be able to say huh this is unusual behavior for him in this type of situation but literally no person here is going to be capable.
His autism had nothing to do with the case
@@RayRaeTV a person's autism will impact how they react to a situation, and often looks different than a neurotypical or average person. Reading his behavior as that of a sign of guilt would be wrong if his autism is what's making him act that way, and not guilt.
I agree. I also agree that the judge got it right bc his argument was compelling & they obv only had circumstantial evidence. they've convicted ppl w/o a body but imo the solid proof just isn't there. if he IS innocent, good on him for fighting.
I would agree if the grandfather was still alive and, most importantly, if he had been admitted to a hospital after being rescued. No one who has spent 8 days at sea would look the way he did when rescued. 8 days without water or food, 8 days underneath the sun without any protection... now way
Inheritance dance!!!!🤣🤣🤣 I almost missed that!😂
Listening to him in interviews makes me chuckle, his speech patterns are like mine when I was younger.
"It must have been terrifying!"
"yes."
Also, there is a stereotype that people on the spectrum cannot lie/have trouble lying. That definitely isn't true. Because a lot of them rehearse their responses to potential conversations in their head, some get very good at it, and have no trouble with sticking to a story. Having a monotone voice and not making direct eye contact also throws off a lot of people's radars. They'll assume that person is shy/timid and often drop their guard. Having deficiencies in empathy can also lead to pathological lying if it is logical in their head. Just because people with autism are logic-based, does not mean they are infallible or cannot lie.
Those things, like monotone voice and different eye contact (stereotypes, not diagnostic criteria) are usually used against us. If we get away with lying it's because of ableism, because people think we aren't competent or all there
Thank you.
Wow, who knew? I just thought that they were pretty innocent and yes didn't they lied much! It totally makes sense, I wonder about being serial killers? I know I'm so warped but so is Mike! See what I did there😉
This is so true, thanks for mentioning it! I'm autistic myself and am actually a pretty good liar and actor.. I spend so much time watching non autistic people that I'm pretty good at copying. A lot of autistic people also spend so much time hiding their autism (or masking), that we're already very good at and used to lying constantly without even realizing. I lie A LOT lol!
So, odd question. How did you get your speech better?
Dude did it sure as we’re all sitting here watching. Destroys GPS and Hard Drive, goes MIA, “loses” his new gun that was same caliber as murder weapon. Then blames the grandpas gold digging girlfriend who would have nothing to gain and would literally be severing the hand that fed her. Then the mom, umm yeah. Just hope that for their sake and for the sake of justice that the travesty of an NG verdict isn’t rendered. We’ve seen some incredible coincidences where seemingly guilty ppl were in fact innocent but this certainly is not one of those instances.
We just love your technique of telling stories!! Funny, but factual! Thanks!!
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Hearing Mike say Rhode Island, point Judith, and Narragansett bay actually just made my day. I’m a local RI boy, born and raised.
I’m so glad you chose to cover a case from New England, I’m from Rhode Island and absolutely love your content! Let’s give it a geeew !!
Nah it's: Let's give it a goo (;
Hello fellow Rhodes islander, I'm Here from Bristol
I live in CT. This story was definitely headline news. I’m personally convinced that Nathan is guilty of both murders. For financial gains. He’s extremely clever despite his austism spectrum diagnosis. How they couldn’t prove it is beyond me. I’m so happy that he was just arrested and charged with something! He’s without a doubt guilty in my opinion.
Yeah, I've seen convictions with _far_ less. No question.
Without a doubt?
Being autistic doesn't mean you can't be a scheming piece of shit, my co worker at my previous work was just unable to really understand what people are emoting, he could not distinguish between certain emotions. He also never picked up social ques to understand when to shut up or be tactful when a female co worker's family member died and I was consolidating her. He would just ask stupid questions and not pick up that it was inappropriate to ask certain things.
autistic people can be clever. it isn't "despite" our autism, that's not really fair to say
The kid was loaded. The more money you have, the better defense you can afford.
All the kids that got sent to those camps are speaking out now about the horrible Stanford Prison Experiment-esk psychopathy they endured.
Hey you! I can't believe I get to have a giggle when watching true crime, you have made my millennium! No more brutal dramatisations for me! You are such a pleasure to watch/listen to. Job well done! We love ya! (and Charlie)
And again when Mike said "I need an inheritance" I was rolling on the floor, though I don't know why Mike's dry humor gets me all the time. It's his delivery. You're a natural , man. If you get tired of this, go be a comedian- you're already well known anyway.
My grandparents were like parents to me for years. They took me in as a troubled pre-teen and saved my life. I've always suspected I'm somewhere on the spectrum, but my grandmother was old-fashioned and wasn't keen on getting me tested. 😂 Anyway, my heart breaks at stories where grand/parents go through stuff like this...Especially really good, kind guardians...He didn't see how blessed he was. That is, assuming he did it. The evidence stacked against him is astounding.
I hope they screen the jury for this kind of extended family bias that many adoptees in the US can not get a fair trial because of.
@@MonsterMacLLC okay.
@@nilesredfern7989 yeah, you're talking as if the grandfather was a saint and not culpable in enabling John's behaviour. The mother assaulted the grandfather. Those are not good, kind guardians, that's a dysfunctional family.
@@nilesredfern7989 you found yourself a friendly pair, didn't you? Gotta love the comment section.
This reply thread took a fast turn. I'm glad you had loving grandparents and reciprocated the love.I haven't watched the full video yet, but I've seen the actual interviews w Nathan and there seems to be something more amiss than his autism. He knows how to stay alive drifting in rough waters and how stop an interview when questions get tough, but for anything else like police interviews he blames his autism for answers that don't seem to be true or legitimate. When he is confronted w facts and details that don't match his story, he says they misunderstood him bc of his autism.
Mike is so much more animated and funny as time goes on. Love these
bro i live in rhode island and didn’t even know about this kid. it’s an amazing place to live, especially in the summer. there’s nowhere else like narragansett beach. but the tourists it attracts has caused many tragedies throughout the years. this one didn’t surprise me
I used to work for the Aspergers Association of New England. It has since shut since Aspergers is no longer recognized as its own diagnosis, simply a part of the Autism Spectrum.
I have also had friends and lovers who are on the Spectrum.
If we are to acknowledge that folks on the spectrum can love deeply, be kind, careful, and good, is it not only logical that we assume they can be the opposite? We cannot judge Carman by his tone, eye contact, or body language.
We can't assume he is guilty or innocent based on his diagnosis. We need to look at the facts.
Yes- and not forget that he had a history of psychotic episodes, which are completely unrelated to autism.
Deep on the AS spectrum here. About to be 30 and still working on eye contact, not walking into every doorway, kicking table legs and incessantly conversing about one subject to the point of pushing others away...
Shit's not as rough as people make it out to be. Was so cathartic when CT scans confirmed my AS, thank goodness for science. Otherwise I'd be utterly confused for who knows how much longer, as to why I felt so odd
Dramatic comment. No one is basing anything on his level of autism or how he looks. Relax.
Thank you for for sharing this.
@@KeefeL
Replying to this comment to combat misinformation. CT scan is NOT currently a standard tool in autism diagnosis. Some preliminary studies have shown that CT might be a useful tool for diagnosis, but that data is still preliminary and it is not considered standard/diagnostic medical practice at this time.
There's a case of a missing female fire fighter in Brevard County named Brandy Hall that went missing in the city of Malabar. There's rumors of her death being a cover up because of a local fire chief having a marijuana growing operation and she knew too much. Something about a love triangle. It would be cool if you put a spot light on that. There's been so many signs "where's bandy?" in the most random places. For years. Someone knows something. It's really sad. Recently, they attempted a dig up of the lake where they presumed her truck with her body was dumped but a detective said that they believe the local police didn't have the equipment to dig deep enough. In my County, or state rather (Florida go figure) finding accidental deaths in retention ponds is very common. This, however, was not an accident.
There's a lot to cover in this and the family would be more than willing to share what they know. Love ya Mike! Please give it a goo!
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If the family is willing to share, I suggest you bring this case to Kendall Rae too. She does cases with the families involved alot. Think she has a request form you can fill out.
Florida as it’s own “country” lol 🤣💕*freudian slip
Other crime channels have covered Brandy Hall's case. I watched one last weekend.
@@lesflynn4455 Doesn't mean Mike and others can't cover it too. The more exposure the better for these cases.
Your videos are like watching a show on tv. You are very charismatic and definitely are a fit for speaking to public. Love your channel. Subscribed yesterday.
The only update on this guy I found is that he's still sitting in jail awaiting trial for the murder of his mother after his bail was denied.
Based on his demeanor and testimony from other comments, it wouldn't surprise me he indeed did it.
Just imagine after a few more years Mike’s final episode is him admitting to being a serial killer and release’s all his murders/evidence
One day I will be on one of his videos
@@CarlosReyes-ye5ks HUH
@@mazi1597 ?
This is more in depth than any other story I’ve seen on him
Agreed. And also thankful that he’s finally charged. Wonder if he’s gonna represent himself again?
I love the way you tell these stories on this channel. Very entertaining and conversational.
I remember this case. Connecticut resident. He has no real expression.
I think the lack of expression is his autism. A lot of autistic people can be over and/or (in this case) under expressive!
Mike with a different shirt in his video! 😂 Always putting out quality content! Thank you for entertaining us all.
I noticed that too! 😜
Me too! A very nice shirt 😁👍
This case is interesting because it makes me realize how much I look for guilt in body language and facial expressions. With Nathan, that is taken out of the equation because his emotions don't show externally. The law is supposed to be based on facts and evidence anyway, so it's actually helpful. It does make you wonder though: How many cases have been swayed based on how we read a persons facial expressions and body language?
Considering how many convicted individuals have been exonerated from death row in the U.S. since the development of better DNA testing, I'd say too many cases have been incorrectly decided. We frequently over estimate our ability to "read people." But, to be fair, my opinion is biased
Plus stereotypes for what we expect a killer to look like. A female primary school teacher was recently arrested for the murder of her husband, she had buried him in the back garden. However the husband had been missing for over a year at the time of her arrest.
Just heard about how theres been cases of domestic violence. The woman was hit very much and often, there was plenty of evidence but it was a jury trial. They found the man innocent. Not because of lack of evidence, there was plenty. After the trial a juror said "we saw the evidence, but she never cried in her testimony. Nobody believed her because of it"
In short "she didn't seem sad enough to be a victim"
It wasn't a televised case so I have to go off what the lawyer people said. (They talked about it while we watched JD v AH)
Nathan's emotions do not show externally because he doesn't possess any.
@@miatalamasca3723 You must not know many people with autism. What they feel and how they show it often doesn't align with neurotypical people.
*UPDATE: Nathan Carman has died in federal custody, according to a new court filing from federal prosecutors. “The United States received information from the U.S. Marshal that Carman died on or about June 15, 2023.*
Omg. I absolutely love the fact that you quoted my favorite movie, “Jaws”. Your videos are always so great.