Here's Your Fix for New MH3 Death's Shadow Lists!
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0:00 Intro & Jund
9:55 Grixis
14:36 Dimir Scam
19:57 Sultai Invasion
25:20 Dimir Turbo Tamiyo
34:18 Dimir Dress Down Nulldrifter
39:56 Sultai Traverse Six
44:49 Rakdos
51:05 Orzov Shadowblade
58:04 Golgari Saga - Hry
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I agree with Spike how Fatal Push is just the nuts right now and would run the playset over some combo of bolts/heats
It might be, but with a new meta on the horizon (pun intended), we don't know if that will be the case in a week. For instance if eldrazi, tron, and combo decks like buried alive phoenix and necrodominance become the norm, then fatal push is terrible. I like bolt week 1 because it gives us a proactive option in to a variety of decks.
great
Much appreciated!
Mike I was beginning to question how I could live without consistent uploads and streams.
Haha I feel like that's not a question that is too difficult to answer. You'd live just fine! But that doesn't mean they can't happen anyway.
@@thecntrlfreak1347 no actually, I wouldn’t Mike. I have abandonment issues
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Deluge is a sweet card, but what are we bringing it in against? Hate to say that I don't really see what we'd need it for.
I guess we won't know for sure what the meta will look like, but i'm not immediately thinking of something shadow struggles with that we'd want deluge for.
Eldrazi for one, sweeps up spawn tokens and can take out larger threats as well. Probably has utility against affinity decks too, I expect people are going to be trying out affinity now that Kappa Canoneer is in available.
I think the early days of the meta will be a lot of prowess, fish, nadu, spike's RW lists, eldrazi, and other creature decks that having a sweeper against won't hurt.
@@thecntrlfreak1347 if you pay 20 life on deluge do your shadows becomes permanent 13/13s?
Street Wraith wouldn't be nearly as bad if you were going for delirium/traverse to tutor up those shadows.
I agree that wraith is almost mandatory in most traverse builds. If you're talking about Jund, I think our threat density is good enough that we don't need traverse. It was definitely a staple when shadow/goyf were the only realistic threats and you had to find one of them to win. But we've been given some pretty decent options over the years to add to that.
@thecntrlfreak1347 That's also true, but something we didn't really do with traverse in the past that's totally doable today would be to run that core and have a silver bullets package to go with it. Tutoring up a single Six or Grist out of the SB along with a slew of other things is pretty nice. 3 traverse is ideal I think. Want it in hand often enough but don't want to be flooded with 4! Anyway, I do like your list in general so good luck, and happy MH3!
Every deck feels better without Shadow these days and it really hurts my soul and my wallet.
Blasphemy.
no Amped Raptor????
you have to cut fable to play raptor
Haven't found a shell I like it in yet. I think the part about the raptor that gets overlooked is you have to cut for it, so either less threats or interaction. Which means there's going to be a number of games that you see less than you want of the one you need at the time you want to see it. It's a gamble card.
@@herbb10 you don’t HAVE to, but probably would want to
@@thecntrlfreak1347 it’s a gamble I’d be willing to take personally. I’m going to try it in a Timeless build.
@@ReyaadawnMTG I respect it. I've been messing around with a 5c raptor shadow zoo list today, though I'm far from confident in it haha
Jund without shadow is great. I think it's time we let death's shadow rest in peace.
Absolute blasphemy haha. Probably right, but I'll never lose the absolute adrenaline rush of double thoughtseize in to a shadow and a battle rage in for lethal. I'm an addict.
i know it's the default for mtggoldfish but that card art is fucking horrid.
No argument here
Take Shadows out
No, you.
@@thecntrlfreak1347 and Aspiring Spike
These decks are completely outdated now. Game/(power) has moved on. I say this as someone who also made their own jank jund saga delirium list. MH3 is just so much more powerful, we're at the "16x MH3 cards or RIP bozo" stage.
I disagree. I do believe there are some configurations out there for Shadow that can show some promise. I’m currently working on a Mardu Shadow list using Ranger Captain of Eos to tutor Shadow. New Goyf should be another excellent target for Ranger Captain. Chitonian Nightmare and Toxic Deluge should also prove to be solid inclusions. Nightmare as a great value engine to recur cheap and power threats as well and deluge to clear the board and swing in with huge shadows
I play dimir shadow and do pretty well with it regularly.
I believe it's too early to make that distinction. We watched RespectTheCat yesterday go like 9-1 or something ridiculous with Jund Saga, and the only change was adding nethergoyf.
@@thecntrlfreak1347 Yeah, it's a sample size of 1 playing a well configured deck against new decks that need a lot more work. Think DS and jund players are in for a rude awakening. Necrodominance and Toxic Deluge don't seem bad though, ngoyf seems very average tbh, maybe a slight upgrade but not going to save these decks from the new powerlevel/meta. But as you say, we'll see.