The Most Pointless Graphics Card Feature Ever?
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When a viewer reached out offering to send over an ATI HD 5770 with a Network Card built in, I couldn't help but ask: Is this the most pointless feature on a graphics card ever?
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"...if you accidentally press the Windows key in the middle of a gun fight...in a game..."
Thanks for specifying this for you Chicago audience.
Bahahaha
@@AnnaDoes Guessing you wrote that?
If you know, you know. 😂
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I was wondering at which point he said this in the video, then I realized... the advertisement :D
"I nearly played so much Battlefield 4 that Anna almost left me"
"My Anna left me"
*sigh*
I wanted more of that story.
Same here
@@ApofKol he's such a tease with that one isn't he?
same :´(
Did your Anna leave you? I'm sorry :(
Fun fact: if you want Ethernet on your gpu for some odd reason have a 20 series nvidia card or a 6000 series amd card with a virtuallink port, you can use an adapter because the virtuallink port works as a normal USB C port
Oh it’s dapz hey man
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Ayo dapz. I didn't expect you here
Casio watches were pretty slick (especially if they had a calculator).
I bought one when they first came out,they were awesome
yeah, i had one back in the 80s and i was so sad when i cracked the glass on it in the subway in paris
I had the Musical one that had a crazy amount of sounds for the alarm, it played Happy Birthday every hour on your Birthday, Jingle Bells every hour Christmas day & so on
@@shaneeslick thats the one i had too, it played 12 melodies i think and had a calculator. those were the times:}
Found my old Casio watch from over 20 years ago... still had perfect time. It's the telephone book one. XD
Hi! I know the response why Killer chipset was there. It's because at the end of 2000's (early 2010's) many routers had problem with priority management and these killer cards were somewhat capable to bypass it. By example, if on a same network, one person was doing torrents, well the one with the Killer card will actually got the priority so he would feel less slow down. Yes, P2P was a thing back then!
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(Connect tor to reach torrage)
best p2p to pvp card ever
P2P is still alive and well if you know where to look. Just a lot less accessible to the average normie than it was back in the mid to late 2000s.
Nah, AMD themselves officially stated it was for PCoIP - a way of setting up multiple monitor workstations by splitting/sharing GPUs between workstations and the server. It basically let them assign your workstation to the hardware pool to be shared among clients, which would allow super-fast multi-monitor responses on a fast network connection, which was necessary for graphics to keep up. This was particularly useful for stock market day-traders.
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Having a NIC makes PERFECT SENSE if there were software which could output RTMP streams directly encoded via the GPU.
Having a Graphics card with built in Ethernet makes sense, if you have motherboard with limited number of expansion slots.
At the time, the HD5770 was an absolute value monster, coming at something like 95% performance of the HD4870 at 2/3 of the price (MSRP), bringing respectable 1080p performance to well under the $200 mark.
looks like equivalent of GTX 550 Ti
My 5770 died a year ago, was a sad day even though I had passed it onto my little brother a few years back. Could play plenty of modern games like Skyrim or League of Legends with ease, especially @ 720p. Have never found a better valued card since.
It was rivalling the gtx 460.
I'm actually so surprised with the graphics cards performance with games I thought it would end up being poo poo garbage.
Ditto! I was quite impressed
I know! Much better than I thought.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Dawid your moist pc video was awesome dude.lmfao
@@nick-cd5tg Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😁
80 fps in csgo at low settings is garbage
GPUs back then look like the knockoffs of today. Looks like a children's version
The knockoffs are still trying to catch up to current year designs. Ten years in the future they'll make convincing RTX knockoffs.
I wonder how many knockoffs are using surplus shrouds from old GPU.
as opposed to now where they are all plain black blocks
The video card was probably marketed as a drop in upgrade for older systems, which probably didn’t have gig Ethernet.
Ok so help me understand this then…who had gig speed internet 10 years ago?
@@Derek2k I have gig speed for like 5 years. And I don't live in very populated city. Not every country is internet poop as USA
@@Derek2k On the local network?
Tons of people. I've got a Core 2 Duo playing media server with onboard, dual gigabit LAN
@@Derek2k More over local lan... though that was more a 2000s thing. :P
@@Derek2k gigabit LAN is a nicety for transferring files to and fro, especially if you have network storage.
“Now, if your GPU crashes, your internet can go with it!!”
Thumbs up for producing a sponsor spot that was a mini review segment. Feature list and audio samples -- excellent work!
i love the sponsor is a membrane keyboard
he lowkey made me wanna buy it lol
Been using the standard k55 for years now, massively prefer it over a mechanical personally. Feels really great and its relatively quiet
Some membrane keyboards can feel good!
Personally i prefer membrane keyboards its much easier to press the keys
I hate friend mechanical keyboard when im visiting him my fingers hertz from it
@@dan2800 Does your fingers megahertz or gigahertz?
My theory on this card:
Some guy in visiontek: we need a new graphics card with a special future!
Drunk technical: Let's mix a graphics card with Ethernet card.
Other guy: That's brilliant!
Haha!! Yeah, that sounds about right.
Circa 2015 Dawid really did play A LOT of battlefield 4...
impossible, not him!
Maybe he new challenge, like plays battlefield game on casio pocket watch too 😅
Well were happy your still with him :D
@@petaaa5419 me too. Turns out he was worth keeping 🤣
Going on sale in 2009 means a fair number of buyers were upgrading systems based on motherboards made from maybe 2005 to 2009. The older end of that range was still 100mb networking so the 1gb lan was definitely a way to differentiate this card.
"A keyboard that sounds like this"
If only people were allowed to work this passive aggression into Raycon ads...
From what I recall, the marketing with Killer NICs was that it did everything in hardware, to free up your CPU. It was supposed to be ultra low latency. I also recall features like being able to prioritize game traffic and download things in the background, as in the card itself could handle torrent downloads, or something.
I would actually consider this quite useful. Especially if it came out today with a 10G nic but in say Tesla or Quadro cards. Throwing a bunch if them in a server would be super useful for VM stuff. PCIE pass through with a nic has its use as well
You didn't think the end..
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I had a similar idea just a few days ago. Imagine having a graphics card with a half-height expansion slot integrated, that works with a pci-e bifurcation. A bit like the pci to pci-e adapters look but the pcb extends to house a full gpu. i dunno...
All the games I've lost to the Windows Button on the keyboard,so,so many
On my keyboard you can disable the windows key with a button, I literally have that exact keyboard.
Used and old keyboard without win key until I spilled beer on it, after that the win key is the first thing I remove on a keyboard. Although my steelseries keyboard have no win key on the left side, there is a steelseries function key instead.
Have that same keyboard and love it honestly. Plus when you break it in the keys give a little rewarding clack/squeak I cant help but adore. Also if your a streamer those macro and media keys are a god send. Allow you to make changes without putting windows over SLOBS or having to buy a 3rd screen.
I really dig odd hardware videos. If you have access to more of this sort of hardware I'd love to see videos on it. Cheers.
The marketing for this card was that if you have the internet connected with the graphics card your ping and fps would be much better in game since all the processing was done in the same board pretty smart marketing for people who don't know about pc because they would be like good connection + graphics card= good fps in online games which that equation does work problem is it doesn't make a real difference also allot of people didn't have gigabit ethernet was very expensive
The Killer NIC software also allows for QOS. This would allow you to set a higher network priority on your games.
@@betadan yeah and it also did a lot of network processing and thereby offloading the load from the cpu. Usually not that important, but when running torrents in the background it can make a massive difference back then
I first saw these long ago and remember it being kind of a gimmick. From what little I remember, the GPU itself has to devote compute cycles to the network functions, making the card actually perform worse graphically than it would be without the network chip. What it was good for was hosting multiplayer servers without the need for the CPU to have to expend cycles on TCP requests. A good option back in the day for LAN parties if your main server had one of these.
Nope its just another PCI-e device on the bus attached via a PLX bridge chip. The GPU has no clue of the existence of the network controller. But the network controller tends to get worse latency than your mainboard integrated one. And during heavy GPU PCI-e transfers or network transfers the traffic across the PLX chip can sort of get in the way of each other.
@@cybercat1531 Welp, sounds like it was even more useless than I thought it was. The more you know XD
My only question is why there appears to be a Chaos Space Marine on the card. Maybe the card is a heretic?
I looked it up because i swore those were space marines and yup dawn of war 2 promotion on the box
@@wsketchy oh that makes sense!
I have recently played a lot on Geforce Now and I had no issue with frames or quality or anything. The quality does periodically drop when the internet is chugging and its noticeably softer for a few minutes but the frames never drop under 30/60 or whatever I set it to. I never had those horrible drops to 10-15 fps like you did. In fact, I played through the entirety of Just Cause 4 and did not have a single significant freeze or fps drop! So I have absolutely no clue what could have happened in your testing, apart from the "network overload" that you mentioned. (Or just your bad internet Dawid lol)
Yes I’ve also played a lot GeForce now recently and I’ve not experienced so much lag as you have
Maybe it was a video decoding bottleneck, was it even hardware decoding with that card?
i love this content man. also, recently just upgraded from a K55 RGB (had it for about four months) to a K55 PRO (it unfortunately broke in a rage mode) to a Logitech G513. i gotta say that the move from the larger k55 to the smaller g513 was difficult, but, the g513 smokes the k55. no comp. this thing sounds great, feels great and i got it for 70 bucks from work because it had a damaged exterior box. everything was intact though, no damage. i love it, plus the palm rest thats padded feels amazing.
I swear nobody talks about how nice Dawid’s camera is! Lovely, shows how much he cares.
Perhaps the geforce now wasn't working well because video decoding is usually done by the GPU (hardware) and if it wasn't able to keep up then it might have been causing bottlenecks (though the system requirements say minimum HD 3000 series). Or it might have been decoding on the CPU? Task manager can show the load on the GPU decoder, which could be an indication. Hope you figure it out!
I am actually giving a PC to someone I know.
His Garbage Acer Prebuilt with an FM1 A6 and mechanical drive crashed so...
Giving him an Old upgraded Dell I have, Core2Q6700, 6GB DDR3 ram, 120GB Kingston SSD + 750Gig Mechanical drive... and a good old Radeon 5770.
Those old radeon's are really quite decent.
Oh for sure. The Graphics card bit makes perfect sense, I just think the ethernet card is random. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff extremely random. Never knew those existed and i have been a tech since the 486 days. Congrats on your CZcams success! And thanks for making such fun videos.
In the UK, that membrane keyboard is on Amazon for £70-75.
That's getting into decent mechanical keyboard territory (Logitech G413, Razer Black Widow Lite or almost any Red Dragon of Havit), and you can get a Corsair K60 for around the same price.
I wonder what he's typing when he's sponsoring those keyboards. Hmm...
Im almost curious enough to frame x frame that to spell it out. Almost.
"A keyboard that sounds like THIS"
starts typing and it sounds like mushy garbage
6:45 this was actually one of the reasons I switched to pc, going back to play games I played at 30 fps low/medium settings on a PS3/4 but this time on high settings with triple digit frame rates. With newer gen consoles sure u can play the older games at a higher frame rate but they'll still look like crap unless they get "remade" (turning the graphics settings from low to high) for the PS5/Series X
The Ethernet port is for use as a video output at great distances through cat wire I would consider. HDMI, dvi and such degrade and do not work long distances without signel boosters but u can use cat wire to travel as far as you wish in theory. What's crazy is I use to have 2 hd 5770 in crossfire in my homebuild. This was cool to see
I like how Ryan Reynolds was on the thumbnail reminds me of watching that movie years ago. 😂 I love the way dawid says abomination.
I believe this was intended for gamers using older PC's that only had 100Mb/s ethernet on board, or flakey and frankly awful Realtek network adapters from the time period.
Not every gamer had a brand spanking new Core i7 960 and X58 motherboard at the time, many were still using early Core2 Duos or a crappy prebuilt that needed a GPU upgrade, and for those users this would have been enticing.
I agree, I believe it is this + general marketing/testing the waters type stuff.
Another use-case would be if you were running crossfire, wanted another NIC, and had exhausted your slots.
Such gamers would have been better served by sinking $280 (Yes, the standalone Killer NIC cost that much) into a better graphics card, RAM upgrade, or CPU.
There's also the ability to setup etherchannel bonding, if your switch supports that, so you can have a 2GbE connection. Something that will still cost a fair amount (£25) today.
Not to mention that you can have one network for gaming, with an outside connection to the Internet, and an internal connection for your intranet/private servers.
Finally, Killer have a lot of marketing behind them, and this was probably more of collaboration that was decided in the board room, rather than at the design level, to trial future compatibility between 2 companies.
Most of the time when you see something "weird" on a "consumer" product, it's either because it wasn't _meant_ to be a consumer product, and just ended up that way upon release, or there was a potential corporate takeover/merger on the cards, and they wanted to see if their engineers could work together, or if the merger/acquisition would make sense (being folded in to one product line), and provide a noticeable boost to their bottom lines.
Sometimes when you develop something, you don't really know how it will be used in the market. EVE is a classic example of a video game that had this very issue. There's a keynote speech from ~2014 that talks about this. When EVE released, they didn't anticipate that players would work together in quite the way they did, and as a result, the pacing of the in-game economy was completely out of whack compared to where they thought it would be a couple of months after launch.
It's a classic case of, here's some mechano. Make something. Then staring in wonder as someone creates a full sized theme park out of it.
It's a gaming NIC. It has some hardware or drivers that "improve online performance". I remember them as being PCI or PCIe cards. Never knew there was one paired with a graphics card. Maybe it's for motherboards that only have one PCIe slot.
Simple as when this card was released onboard LAN wasn’t good.
What better to market with your GPU to gamers than a good network chip for their LAN parties.
Makes sense to me. Saves space in the build so you don’t take up to PCI slots....
still an interesting product and decent video!
Nah. The budget system I built in high school back in 2002 had onboard LAN and it was fine.
@@IMelkor42 You missed the "decent" part. Also this card was released way later. It's a killer network chip
@@nated4wgy You missed the part where I said it was fine, which implies 'decent'.
How does this card coming out later help your point? Unless you're saying that built in NIC used to be good, but then became worse around 2011? I also built systems up and through that time, all had serviceable motherboard LAN which I used.
@@IMelkor42 Fine doesn't imply decent at all. Fine implies the bare minimum.
"serviceable" Again. If you think that implies GOOD, you need to buy a dictionary.
What? You are literally putting words in my mouth now. I'm done you toxic arse.
"a particularly rowdy absinthe binge" this is the kind of thing i tell my friends so they will check out this channel, Dawid, you sound like good peeps haha
Hey! About the geforce now thing: I've been forced with an old HD4650 or something like that for the past few months because my r9 280 broke, and... Yeah, that does suck. It's not because of geforce now, but because the video card was so weak that it couldn't handle geforce now (you still need acceptable video decoding capabilities, especially with higher framerates and resolutions). Now I managed to get my hands on an r9 270x, which handles that just fine. Nice video!
I remember getting one of those for my old workshop pc back in the day when grinder-dust killed the network and monitor ports on it, and I currently were unable to convince my then wife that the 2 year old system we used upstairs were outdated...
I had the misfortune of having a motherboard at one point that had that Killer chip on it. I actually ended up having to completely disable that network interface once I realized that the driver had a memory leak. Driver memory leaks are especially bad because it takes a reboot to get that memory back and they're tougher to track down because that memory isn't attributed to a process.
Well it might have sense because maybe the network adapter, being included inside the graphics card might reduce latency (?) from the signal arriving from the net to it being interpreted by the GPU and displayed (?). It might also reduce the CPU load because maybe some processing is done onboard the graphics card (?) I don't know, i can only guess this doesn't make a lot of sense to me either...
I could see the NIC being marketed for LAN parties. I'm not sure if this is universally true, but at least where I live around 2008-2009 internet cafes started popping up specifically marketed as being gaming spaces, complete with starcraft 2 and a couple shooters being preloaded on each machine and connected to each other via LAN.
Kinda reminds me of my old hewlett crappard that had a combination soundcard, modem, and game port.
Linus used some sort of HD series of card a while back. That ethernet port is basically for screen projection. Hopefully it can go upto 4K 30 or 4k 60 if you're lucky
I suspect this may have been specifically put together for an integrator (like Alienware pre Dell? - I remember Killer Nics being a huge selling point for some certain gamer focused prebuilds)
So if I recall the reason for the integration of the 2 cards was because it "saved space". Motherboards that did not have a built in Network option and didn't have enough PCI slots to have a network card and graphics card (or they were too close together to be used at the same time).
Back at it again with another great video
It was useful for ITX systems back in the day. Many mainboards had rather bad onboard NICs and in rare cases, they died without any warning. I think it's a funny and possibly useful feature, nowadays such a combo would be interesting with 2,5 or 10Gbit LAN, there is plenty of unused PCIe 4.0 bandwidth.
I can see adding an Ethernet could make sense on some small form factor motherboards, or budget boards lacking Ethernet, or the on board solution fails. There may be some video over Ethernet system.
My best guess is that it was originally part of a pre-built system and they had stock leftover and repackaged it as a stand alone GPU.
Nope. It was used on remote workstations where security was important, hospital scan images for example. That way you showed the image without the reciver being able to download vital/personal info. It was used alot with CAD for example.
You even had cards that ONLY had a ethernet conex like the AMD FirePro R5000.
Dawid doing greatness always
I have an old 5770 vapor x from saphire. Comes with a vapor chamber thermal solution. It was a good gpu back then. Great performance on a low budget.
GN did a video on gaming streaming services not that long ago and it seems like GeForce Now has a number of different hardware configurations you can wind up with for any given session.
3:17 The Elixir chip says 1038, ie, 2010 38th week.
You should be able to right-click the install file and put it in Win7 Compatibility mode, and then just install it.
At the time this was released the Killer NICs were absolutely miles ahead of onboard NICs available at the time, they bypassed the standard network stack and allowed for on-NIC management. It wasn’t a -huge- performance difference in most cases but it could help a lot with latency in competitive online gaming. This card at release was about ~$10 cheaper than buying an hd5770 and a killer NIC separately, so it would have made sense if both were already planned purchases.
Snappy Driver Installer can find slightly newer drivers then the ones used in this btw, the APU's got updates they didnt include the codes, and the NIC drivers even got a couple harder to find updates in my exp.... i know somebody still using a classic Killer card thats now running an open source firmware(updated linux kernal and such) thats still working great....just alot of work...
It exists for High Speed Trading. The folks involved in that want to be able to process network traffic as quickly as possible with as little latency as possible to make buy/sell decisions. They would not have been receiving traffic though this card to the CPU, as there is too much latency involved in that for their use case - instead, the network packets would be processed directly on the GPU with special software. Not the first time I've seen this sort of thing.
I could see a NIC being useful on a GPU as an output, provided that it had an output hooked to it.
Way back in the day, getting display signal over longer distances were a pain, so what most people used was to encode the HDMI signal and run it over Ethernet as it was cheaper and worked for longer distances than HDMI cables ever could.
Having a built in port for it on the graphics card could make you shed one box in the setup... However I doubt that was its purpose though.
I'm not sure.. but I'm getting a vibe that Dawid was really surprised...
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With the ethernet port, it could have been designed for some HPC usage, where the GPU itself would talk to other GPUs to build a supercomputer cluster for scientific calculations.
Maybe it was specially built for such a use case and later also sold to normal customers.
You should do more old graphics card reviews!
That corsair keyboard looks and sounds like a glorified office keyboard with a ton of dirt underneath the keys
The moment you realize that decal on the Graphics card is from Warhammer 40K Dawn of War II Chaos rising... Burn in Holy fire
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I think it was for upgrading motherboards with a high speed ethernet on the high speed PCI-E bus... This would upgrade thin client type hardware, that had very few pci-e slots to use, as used at a gaming setup.. like for a convention centre gaming ... 16 or more thin client setup with each streaming to the control centre, which can choose which gamer to put up on the big displays for the audience. So even if the motherboard had gigabit builtin, it could be poorly implemented, and turned into an NE2000 (remember them ?? ) somehow upgraded to gigabit...
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A new card could do with 4 of ethernet 10GBps rj45 (cat6) ports supporting SR-IOV and VMDq for (VM) game server rotation over global timezones (with bsd, linux driver support and open solaris, like open-indiana). Needs magnetics. The ability to run two simultaneously would help such as for different IP address (and packet security).
thanks for the high pressure sales tactics, just bought that keyboard off amazon, on sale to boot
bro was holding back tears of sadness while typing on that thing
You have a very emotive interesting inflection in your voice, it’s cool
In the earlier part where you said gigabit port was common 11 years ago . It wasn't common it was releasing in all new HW. but at launch this was aimed at 3-4 year old PC's and bring them support for gigabit ethernet . Also ITX PC's can't have extra PCIe 1x cards so it made sense.
It makes sense from a certain point of view, for example if you have had a prebuilt sandy bridge system with very few pcie 2.1 lanes (maybe 20 lanes TOTAL) and wanted a decent gpu + sound card and a "low latency" ethernet card. How do you go about this with a system with only one x16 and one x4? The sound card hogs the x4 (electrically x1), the gpu hogs the x16 (electrically maybe x8), so at least 3 lanes wasted on the sound card and maybe another 8 on the gpu. How cool and efficient it would be to have combo cards. I wish there would be more combo cards, like an 2.5GbE with an nvme ssd holder card, there are such things from qnap and synology but each have their down sides, due to their respective nas system, so can't really use them on standard pc.
I used to use an AMD HD 6770 card, which I have heard is basically just a HD 5770 that they rebranded. Worked great until the plastic fan shroud connectors broke, which messed with the cooling flow and it started to overheat under load. No ethernet port on my card, though.
"Product that was brainstormed during a particularly rowdy absinthe binge" Your comparisons and descriptions are always god-tier, Dawid.
I had 2 5770s in crossfire back in the day. The crossfire scaling for those cards was stupidly good for some reason, so adding a second card netted 75% higher performance.
I think the reason why that card with an ethernet port exist is because it could be integrated into a specific workstation PC in where you can transport a video stream through the evening video boxing ethernet and it'll play through Ethernet to a display like in another part of an area or room or whatever on the same local network and then coming from experience being a former audio visual designer and integrator
Isn't that just an HDMI over HDBaseT? (albeit a really primitive one)
Visiontek used to do this and build some other rare SFF VHDCI Cards, but they're recently switch to MiniDP.
I think they're pretty well known for their 5+ port GPU on a single slot card.
The reason for that port is that so they can use LAN extender for 100+ meters display on live events or wide open public space.
Linus does review something like this B2B card around 2-3 years ago, but with a 6 HDBaseT port if i recall correctly.
"It runs surprisingly well!" Dawid channelling CDPR executives.
Maybe when they were making it onboard networking wasn't as great and someone thought this would give it a leg up selling a combo gpu/network card kinda like if they sold a gpu with a built in sound card I suppose, but then on board ethernet probably got better by the time it came out
What is that screen overlay? Would love to have that much information showing. Can only get basic, no cpu temp or speed
Strangely enough I have a HD5670 with two gigs of VRAM but I can't find anywhere that lists it. No information at all it's like 2 gig cards didn't exist except I have one and I bought it from TigerDirect like 8 years ago.
I think this thing is designed for pass through virtualization purposes. You can configure a virtual machine and run a wire from the RJ45 of this card to a low performance PC far away, and play games or do some other gpu-intensive work there. AMD had a specific lineup for this kind of job, namely Firepro R series. I think Nvidia have something like this too, which looks like a Quadro 4000 but with a RJ45 port, but I can't remember the name for now.
Even my Windows XP midrange desktop had gigabit Ethernet but for some reason I discovered recently when helping my parents remotely debug their slow internet after changing ISPs that the Windows 7 desktop they own does not have gigabit Ethernet for some unknown reason.
It was meant for running screen projectors where the projector it's self is inaccessible. Like on the ceiling of an auditorium. You can install this in a simple standalone computer without having to upgrade the computer.
So about GeForce Now...
I've been using it daily, since my current PC is rocking an FX-6200 with an HD 7570. At $5/month, I'll have spent the equivalent of a 3060 (at MSRP) in five and a half years.
One thing I've noticed about GeForce Now is that by default it auto-chooses your server location, based on network performance. But sometimes you can get a better connection (or at least a more consistent one) by manually picking a server. There's even a tool on the settings page to test bandwidth, packet loss, and latency with different servers.
Most of the time, my best server is US East 2. But some days it suffers from congestion, and I get better results from their US Northeast Server.
This card i theorize was made in the vane of less proceved lag due to closer physical proximity. Possibly even had the conceptual idea of not needing the system bus to communicate with the gpu?
if you look back into the 90's, it was fairly common to see combined cards, OEMs would buy cards with a few things built into them, like sound, game port, and serial or something else. not too out of the ordinary except for when it was released, way too late.
From what I remember, VisionTek kinda angled this as a card for off-lease SFF systems, for use in internet cafes and stuff.
Wow , this really takes me back.
How I miss those roudy absinth binges.
This was from a period when one or two expansion slots on motherboards were legacy PCI slots.
If you had a Micro-ATX board back then, you didn't have much room for expansion. Usually below the main x16 slot was an x1 slot that would be blocked by a graphics card and the remaining two slots would be a PCI slot (effectively useless) and a secondary PCIe slot.
So if you wanted to replace either the garbage onboard sound or network adapter with a discrete solution from a better brand then you would be hard pressed to come up with an ideal solution. Also let's not forget that SLI and Crossfire were a thing back then.
8:18 B: i have used geforce now so much because the chip shortage and it's fine but if the internet connection isn't good than you start to noticed the visual dropping steep
When I seen the thumbnail, I thought the ethernet socket was for one of them long distance monitor cables, since HDMI and DP have limited range before you start getting signal degradation. Obviously not, though.
As for GeForce Now, I can't say for this particular service, but I used the Playstation Now service for a while, and can tell you it's fine if you're playing something turn based, but action games? Not so good.
Wonder if it was used in a server settings where space was cramped but needed both a gpu and Ethernet
Can you benchmark the graphics card with the open source Mesa drivers on Linux since those should be compatible with the card and are continually being updated and then compare that with the Windows performance?
6:42 this right here is exactly why I'm happy with doing a budget build in Nov '22 w/ RX6600 5gb gpu 5600 cpu combo. Not really interested in ray tracing (too much $$ for not enough "wow" factor for my own budget / needs), and YA, that back catalogue to choose from will keep me busy for years n years. Big difference over consoles with every new gen and old titles. Love my couch console gaming, but PC has so many pros