My Thoughts on Piracy
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2021
- In this video I give my thoughts on software and media piracy
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Friendly reminder: pirating adobe software is always morally correct.
exactly, thats why i pirate all my adobe software cause im not paying for their subscription based shit
I've never seen a human using non-pirated Adobe softwares irl. Only politicians and big studios can afford that sh!t.
+their marketing strategy aims to position them as an industry standard
schools teach adobe tools, companies demand skills on adobe tools
if we have to use a tool, at least make it free
@@fishyc43sar the only person i know with non-pirated adobe software is my sister, her college pays for it
The best thing you can do morally, is buy 1 years subscription, and then pirate it.
You're paying what it's worth without any of that subscription shit.
Here in Brazil we don't even consider paying for software as an option. Most of us don't even know the option exists in the first place. Browsing torrent sites is second nature for us. Any third world country where money is short has the same pattern. You only spend money on booze and food.
Sounds comfy
I'm in the balkans and I can confirm this
ja pirateei até jogo gratuito
@@alekzandah360 im in the caribean, and i never ever pay for software
@@laz3664 Any post communist country don't pay for software, people were joking "Bill Gates can't make us pay for Windows, how the fuck he is going to microchip us" lmfao. Btw i live in the balkans too.
First world country: "ewwww piracy"
Third world country: "you guys pay for software?"
Basically sums it up
Might be why software is so expensive in the first world, in the first place. Socialism in the third world brings us all down.
Yep
Welcome to Brazil Fellas :D me may present yo Crack Vegas pro
i agree (half of my library is pirated)
@@nokkaa12 same lol
Piracy has literally saved my life. I've learned so many skills and only landed a job in IT because of piracy.
same. ALot of people pirate for entertainment but I do it for knowledge. I've read dozens of books over the years that I wouldn't have been able to afford.. same for courses.
Giga chad here
Tfw you only learn how to set up a virtual machine for piracy
Google started from piracy.
@@qwerty_artist for fishing 😂
I have no problem with occasionally buying proprietary software, except now I can't even BUY them anymore. I have to subscribe to them. Fuck that shit, open source all the way.
yeah...
That’s what really gets me. It’d be one thing if you could buy a stable release and pay to get updates, but buying a thing and then paying to use it after you’ve bought it is insane.
@@arnox4554 For one year? so it is a subscription
@@dameck9570 Sort of? You still have full and permanent access to all the versions of XF you got access to even after your support period ends. You just won't be able to access any further updates to the software and won't receive any (official) tech support until you pay for another year of support.
TL;DR - You get permanent access to current and past versions and you also get one year of updates and support on top of that.
Yeah the subscription model is basically extortion. It needs to die in a fire. I am okay with companies offering a subscription if they also offer a one-time buy option also.
Piracy: What the consumer wants, what the consumer gets
In the World of Growth everything devalues .
"If you like it, BUY IT!"
@@StiekemeHenk
I hate it, but bossman say I must have it, so YOINK.
open source > closed source
@@prakharmishra3000 so what if they are richer? Idc about that what i care is if it's good or not
Modern copyright law hurts artists more than piracy ever could.
yea lol id rather deal with pirates "Stealing" the stuff then bringign i tto their school or work or whatever and now that entire place where was ZERO fans now has 100s fans alot whom pirate but evne if just one makes a purchase it was still a purchase that i wouldent of got if wasent for the "prirate"
Indeed. I've watched one too many smaller indie content creators get fucked over by CZcams for no reason nor warning, having their livelihood robbed from them by the very platform they're providing content for. Fake copyright policing companies hurt artists more in one day, than piracy has hurt anyone in a decade.
cant believe you can own an idea or whatever for 150 years. its bullshit. i also cant believe you can copyright the playing of something that isnt yours. thats how is classical music still copyrighted. despite being written over centuries ago.
@@ImNotFine44 anything representable digitally cannot be owned (truly speaking, not legally speaking) because nobody can own a number. This means almost everything covered by copyright trademark etc is nonsense. Some dangerous pictures/extreme weapon plans/etc could still be made illegal without contradicting this.
@@jiaan100 I fully agree, however the law doesn't. You can own numbers, just like you can own a string of letters. But again I agree with you, there's a video from a libertarian here on youtube talking about why intellectual property is bullshit. One of his arguments boils down to if I write a poem and tells it to you, and you decide to write it down with your pen and paper from memory then the only way I can claim ownership of that is by claiming ownership of your memory, eg. a part of you. This is immoral thus copyright is immoral.
I think people should watch that video even if they're not libertarian, a lot of it makes a lot of sense and you don't have to agree with anything else the libertarians say 8aK97O15F2w&t=8s
The moment subscription replaced OWNING your copy of the program I no longer even consider piracy as wrong.
Never allow industry to hoodwink you.
@@unusuallyordinary I own Photoshop Cs3. I wanted the latest version all these years later, only to find out they switched to subscription only model.
Was like screw that and kept my older version.
@@theAstarrr The idea of subscribing to software programs is that you keep up to date with the newest versions. Versus a permanent license which is only for 1 version that never gets major updates.
Which is a fine idea imo on paper, but the problem is when the option for a permanent license is taken away.
@@VexAcer Also another issue is that the upgrades are so insignificant that you don't even benefit from newer versions. That might change now with the sudden AI craze, but we'll have to see first.
@@SkyverbI pirated cs6 a few days ago. Never looking at £20 per month for the new photoshop as an option again
Mental Outlaw : "cost isn't the problem"
Some, if not most pirates : well yes, but actually no
In the case of adobe? Cost is probably the problem.
In the case of other things? Idfk depends on what it is
@@Nailima_ and sony has it too. Fuck paying 100+ usd
Definitely the case with adobe. I still use CS6 because it was a one time payment and does most of what I need from it. I'd happily upgrade to a newer version if they let me buy it but they won't. There's some nice quality of life changes in the newer version (along with performance improvements) that I'd love. But paying a monthly fee is not worth it. They know this too. Their big customers are forced to pay for their things and as such they can do this consumer unfriendly model and get away with it.
Cost isn't a problem.
Even if adobe suite was $5/month for everyone forever, I still wouldn't pay for it even if my life depended on it.
@@kirayoshikage4057
why pay per month for it. its stupid
Remember that one time when a game developer blatantly told his fans to pirate his game, because Steam wasn't going to give him any cut on the sales of his game?
Those were the good times XD
Dennaton Games(creators of Hotline Miami franchise) straight up said "go for it, pirate our stuff!"
Because Australia banned Hotline Miami apparently.
@@unknownguyindo4356 Fr? Very based of him
Which game developer? I'd heard that about G2A, but not steam.
not steam, a publisher. cant remember which one but they basically tried to force the studio to give their self developed tools and assests, to another studio working with the publisher; then when stuido refused, publisher froze their ip, witheld payments with bs excuses to try and strong arm them for like 8 months. so the studio head said "pirate our game, as we dont see a penny from the sales anyway". i think the publisher eventually had to pay like 2m dollars just for the breach of contract.
G2A is a key reselling platform, it's kinda shit when you giveaway some codes or had a massive sale cuz then they will heavily undercut your price and you won't see a cent from that
Here In Russia paying actual money for software/videogames will get you laughed at, especially by the older folk
It's such a stark contrast with the western web, where even mentioning piracy can get you banned on some tech forums
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How do you get csgo for free?
@@kynu3287 that game is free...
@@ichbinhier355 Its half free. Because you cant get a rank on free version now xD
@@kynu3287 i dont know maybe ask babushka
I remember downloading a movie just because was one of the top torrents at the time.
The first thing was the producer saying they knew the movie was going to be pirated, so they uploaded it themselves. I ended up donating the price of a movie ticket on their website.
That is fucking great matey
@mical385 Probably fake lol, I doubt a movie that popular would have studios open to stunts like this
@@zaidlacksalastname4905 Well I don't know the story but the director himself of the movie Cthulhu (2007) uploaded the whole movie on CZcams for free. It's a simple search and it's there.
Pretty fuckin awesome
@@zaidlacksalastname4905 You will be shocked to learn some content creators actually do this, too. There was a game dev who uploaded his finished game on piratebay because he knew the game would gain popularity either way and people would still find and buy it.
Why not just buy the Blu-Ray of the film?
Here's what grinds my gears: subscription software and region locks. If I can pay a one time fee for something in my region I would be more than happy to pay a pretty penny for software I enjoy. But "renting" software pisses me off so I will find any alternative necessary (usually FOSS or other competitor software). And with region locks it's either visit the bae or never experience it at all, and life it too short to miss out on anything.
Yeah dude, i ended up settling for the Affinity tools for graphics and davinci resolve for video for that exact reason I ain't gonna pay rent to adobe for my work tools
@@derekschmidt6798 The bitch of it is though that Adobe still has the best photo editor of them all in so many damn categories.
@@arnox4554 affinity photo is pretty damn close to it and is a one time buy
@@derekschmidt6798 Are you sure? I mean, that's awesome if it is, but the reviews I read about it complain of lack of features compared to PS.
@@arnox4554 it has all the essentials it maybe lacks those features you need once in every blue moon and it's useful to have on those ocasions but for 99% of use it's awesome totally recommend
TBH here in Brazil without piracy I would never watch 90% of the movies that I've watched.
Omg I just thought of foss movies wtf
Thanks god in Brazil we dont get those bullshit fines for pirating stuff
In bangladesh, only time I watch movies that I didn't pirate are from the TV, been to theatre like twice, very boring.
@@abubakrakram6208 you can do other stuff at home and you don't have to deal with other people, there's also the thing that I'm a germophobe and theater sits are so dirty here.
AAA
Remember kids: _You can always pirate Adobe products, it is always morally correct~_
Is there a way to get a pre kill switch version of adobe flash?
Vegas pro 15 is way better than pp
@@Orcastruck And davinci is free!
@@theeclipsemaster BlueMaxima FlashPoint
@@aMySour thx
"Piracy is an issue of service, not price" - Gabe Newell
And i would say hes right
Have bought every piece of software i pirated
@@nokuhobune many games that I pirated first I end up buying in special steam promotions cause it's just more convenient than downloading cracked versions without patches and risking getting malware
Price also can be an issue, if it's not adapted to each region specifically. Gladly Gabe understand this too.
@@Arutemu64 this, this is why Adobe products and their services suck so much to even put money in it. Terrible.
About right, I suppose.
"Not available in your country" is another huge factor although VPNs are getting more and more popular.
Yeah… but also risky to use. As for Services like GOG or Steam, they can ban your account for using a VPN. And i would not wanna risk all my libraries worth of games. That's why i'd rather use a cracked pirated copy instead. Staying legal while wanting to consume is not easy when corporate idiocy is making it hard to stay on the good side.....
If you're pirating you should probably be using a VPN anyway though
@@shredded_lettuce only in some countries.
Almost all. Third world country dont care if you pirate.
@@protimsinha true and "not available in your country" is almost always applied to third world countries
@@yushinodesu Most of the hentai games in steam are banned in Germany. You can't buy them anymore. I wouldn't say that Germany is a 3rd world country.
Fun fact: System of A Down released album called 'Steal This Album!' as they found fame shortly after their last one was pirated, so they saw the opportunity and kept it on, instead of getting couple of collage teens to pay $100
Toxicity II
Hahahahahah genius
There is actually a vid of someone stealing that album,
like from a literal store.. yeah quite funny.
It's titled: Kid steals System of a Down's 'Steal This Album'
link to vid: czcams.com/video/Zqz5zrEV0Cg/video.html
Funny how as kids, we were taught “sharing is caring”, but now, sharing as an adult through giving someone a copy of software you own, is frowned upon.
I've always believed in the ethos of "Pirate it until you can afford it". Most applications are way too expensive for the average human on earth to afford especially if it isn't a perpetual license. Open-source is the key to a open future.
Amen brotha
I own thousands of dollars worth of virtual instruments (like orchestral instruments) because I don’t even make money back from it, I consider it a free license until I do get enough of a return from it
@@trinitylovesyou6868 historically and from a human physiology perspective passion has always been a greater motivator and driven more innovation than a profit motive. Just because the current system is built around greed and profits doesn't make it a good system. Look around you everything from quality of products to the state of infrastructure is crumbling. When you solely chase profits then you extinguish passion. There needs to be a incentive structure and system that let's passion thrive, not kill it.
if you know machine code, everything is open source
-sun tzu
only issue I have with OSS is that it's usually hella janky. I get it, it's free, but it sucks that there's not more resources invested in UX when it's open source stuff, it would really help get it to mainstream if the software wasn't overwhelmingly confusing (i.e. GIMP, not horrible but it's not exactly friendly to beginners imo). Notable example of this: Blender 3.X which fucking slaps
Reminder that piracy was lowkey the norm in the 80's (thank you demoscene)
Its still the norm on the middle east, no one buys software , you can buy DVDs that have a big collection of hacked software for 2 dollars max
Amiga demoscene :D
@@mustfaaboassd it's all piracy over here in Lebanon
it's the norm here in russia too
The shift in the west into all-out obsession with intellectual property amongst lay people is, to me, disgusting and abhorrent
Companies that fight piracy:
Companies that exploit employees:
*They're the same picture*
The currently established mode of production inherently exploits their employees
@@du42bz poor cope lol
@@syrup7894 Cope harder commie
@@du42bz yeah
@@du42bz We must seize the means of production and establish a utopia where we're all equal in our poverty and misery, right comrade?
Finally someone who gives a good explanation! I've seen so many content creators get this the wrong way and make it look like the ultimate crime. It's not, honestly it's the only way for some of us to play video games. I pay for some games but I always pirate large game companies EA, Activision-Blizzard, Ubisoft, especially Ubisoft and Bethesda, oOoOO Bethesda I still remember horse armor, I still remember how you made DLCs a thing! Hell the only reason I bought the OG Skyrim, no DLCs was to play Enderal since it only needs the Skyrim game to be present in your library not even installed. Also I've seen during my time on the open seas small companies putting their games on the torrent sites, not even joking, and asking people if they enjoy the game to buy it. Unfortunately it wasn't my type of game but they got some customers for that I'm sure of it.
There have been studies done where piracy, on a wide scale, has no effect on company sales in the slightest. This is looking at the music industry mostly but this applies to other industries as well since music has essentially become free. Don't feel bad about piracy.
Can you pls link the study if you can find it. I wanna read about that
@@bjarnhedur Same
Source: trust me bro
Cite your sources, you have the burden of proof
@@JimBobJoeB0b cringe 😬
Tl;dr: It varies. In some industries, piracy doesn't seem to affect sales at all, in others there's a marked difference.
Though if I'm enitrely honest, I can't say I care either way.
Video summed up: Yar Har flipperdy dee being a pirate is alright with me
Fun fact: you didn't watch the whole video
@@zyansheep That is 100% true
@@zyansheep yeah, imagine commenting before watching the whole video. No one would ever do that, right?
I love how this comment was made in just 2 minutes after the video release lmao
lol
Do what you want cause a pirate is free, YOU ARE A PIRATE!!!
Pirate channel
One piece
Yarr har fiddle dee dee, do what ya want ‘cause a pirate is free!
i"m gonna become king of pirates
Wow I remember that song.
"Being a pirate is all right with me"
Remember friends. Pirating adobe software is always morally correct.
Do u know any website I can get hacked adobe photoshop?
This channel is goated. Finally subscribing after watching a few vids
"Lars Ulrich was supposed to have a shark golden bar statue next to the pool, but because of people downloading cd music, he can't" - South Park Cop.
LOL Someone should gift the camping toilets of the Hurricane festival to Lars Ulrich. He can take a shit right there since he's full of it.
And now anyone with internet access can listen the whole Metallica discography instantly on CZcams, for free, uploaded by the studio. And noooothing else matters...
"Piracy hurts the artist" - lil Wayne sitting on his throne made of literal money
Weird Al was supposed to have a solid gold humvee!
There's a lot of content that is unavailable(obscure artists/they aren't selling discs anymore), and in those cases it's either paying for a collector's item, or pirating it. In both cases the artist has no income from it.
It's starting to be less of a problem with obscure artists thanks to bandcamp and donation services. And I'm sure there's a way to contact and convince those boomer artists to set something up so they can get paid for their art.
@@joko49perez some of those boomers are just straight up dead
@@AuroraAce. I wasn't talking about them. The subject only becomes a problem if there's someone to support, right?
Im actually one of those obscure Musicians and I don´t get paid, so I stopped Making Music.
I still have many finished compositions I left without releasing... maybe one day.
@@AriannaEuryaleMusic Anyways best of luck with the music
I believe that piracy is morally correct in certain cases. I think piracy is OK if it is a large corporate entity (Adobe, Microsoft) but if it’s a smaller team, that’s where the problems start. Same with games. Big companies aren’t going to suffer from piracy, but smaller indie titles and teams may not have a future if piracy is too rampant.
Agree
piracy is always morally correct and needs no justification
I've just been reading the Wikipedia page for Copyright Infringement. It's really interesting how it talks about the terminology of it, how it's sometimes referred to as 'theft' and 'piracy'. It even mentions how there was a judge who forced a corporation to remove the word 'piracy' from a lawsuit against someone who had downloaded something illegally, because it was a misleading description.
I always thought it was weird that people compare piracy to theft.When you pirate stuff, it's more like copying homework without permission. If you do that you're not depriving your colleague of his homework. To consider it theft companies have to argue they already own the money of a possible future sale.
>welcome to reverse mandala affecting economics 101
At the very least they could argue that some portion of those people pirating the software would have paid for the software. The end result is less revenue for the company making it and in some cases it could lead to bankruptcy of the company in the long run, regardless of if the software is pirated for free or you pay some small amount for it. Some companies don't even exist now because of piracy.
While you're not stealing a physical good, it's still something someone had to work for to make, that labor and time has a value.
However, if you pirate anything from a large studio or publishers the devs/staff already got paid, since that was part of the development budget, the only ones missing out on money is the publisher.
@@Deliverygirl labor and time don't have a value; they have a cost, but value is ultimately subjective. The cost is dealt with capital and revenue, and so by definition it falls on the employer (or the creator if he's working solo) himself to cover them, not the people who seek the product. People are prompted by demand, not to recompensate the work that went in making the product. Demand is informed by scarcity, not artificial scarcity (like IP).
yep. the idea of intellectual property in general is just a cancer to society
The idea of piracy = sale loses is dumb. Most times when someone pirates software is because they can't or just don't want to pay for it.
Lowering the price of software and making it open source would reduce piracy significantly.
Arrrg.
Back when I use to pirate games quite a bit it was usually because I couldn't afford it at launch. Got to play the game early on and for longer while still buying the game when I had the money available (or when it went on sale). If piracy wasn't an option, I probably would never have bought the games I did since I'd forget about them or lose interest by the time I could actually get them. Piracy probably creates more sales than it removes.
Win rar does that
And who cares about if it would be sales losses. It's like asking for money for using certain mathematical formulas or other scientific knowledge. It's dumb as phuck from the start. If something can be copied without any cost whatsoever, then you shouldn't cry if that gets copied.
Open source and selling licenses that gets you extra features, support, name on the credits (if you pay enough, otherwise name on the website somewhere), etc. would be the answer. And then having different licenses based on if that software is used for commercial purposes or not. That is important in many software, CAD software comes to mind. You need it to be popular, but still majority of the revenue comes from companies that make money on that software, so you need to take much larger amount from them and offer better support for them.
IP protection has phucked the west so badly. But those few giants that have monopoly or essential monopoly, are banking on it while the whole area get suffocated and China etc. reap all the benefits. Though we also need laws to prevent giants that allow companies like Google to become a reality. Buying up hundreds of companies shouldn't be allowed. Unless you are a car company and buy companies whose parts you were using anyway.
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i've pirated a lot of games in my younger years. But once i made the money i bought them, if only because i wanted to play the most recent version lol.
This was pretty informative and it was definitely eye opening to say the least. To see both perspectives of where consumer and provider stand as a whole, in an unbiased perspective is pretty good content. Especially if delivered in a more simple and less complex manner than most, and I could say I definitely enjoyed watching this while eating some snacks because again. Very informative, unbiased and well delivered and I'm guessing this is the content I'll be watching daily. 10/10 video.
Youre my favorite channel about 3 weeks. I love all your videos specially cryptos
Since I've touched Linux, I barely touch proprietary software, but if there's no alternative, I'll break through it.
me
I hope someday we reach the ultimate bliss of freeing ourselves from proprietary garbage. The only reason that keeps me coming into youtube is some good tech content and anime openings...
Im looking at _you_ brew mp.
@@mobrine8659 At least it's good that we are "the most that we can" instead of giving up because we didn't reach 100%.
What tools are there not replacements for? I'm fairly new at Linux.
I started as a pirate and now I use FOSS alternatives most of the time
I find, In a lot of cases, the FOSS software is the main option rather than an alternative to proprietary.
@@thatonegoblin7051 before I discovered all this I thought proprietary was the only option, if you tried to explain foss to me back then I probably wouldn't believe it.
@A A I wish Fusion was still free.
@A A music production software is also a niche where FOSS just falls flat. I know there have been attempts and some FOSS plugins are pretty good, but doesn't general selection if FOSS software just don't live up to the wide range of proprietary tools. Given how the workflow in modern DAWs typically incorporates use of variety of 3rd party plugins, all of which are solid pieces of software (and not only, as the development might involve also elements of audio production and art) on their own, where quality is often a matter of taste, I think chances of developing a somewhat competitive FOSS alternative to proprietary audio production software are lesser than for advanced CADs like Solidworks.
Special effects video software, like After Effects also seem to have no solid FOSS alternatives and I think they also get quite modular in a similar way as audio production software, but I haven't used them nearly as much, so i don't know.
Yea you are right why bother when you got software that is already free and good enough
Finally a good level-headed take on piracy without any hysterics. Thank you!
I don't mid people pirating movies or games, you deserve to have a good time even if you can't afford it. The only time I think it actually bad is with indie games, most of them are very cheap and those studios really need the money to keep existing
I totally agree with this video, finally someone who speaks up about this. The music companies like Universal or Sony Music have been waging war against people for years. I heard of a case that happened a couple of years ago where a woman had to pay over $ 10 000 for downloading something like 60 songs. The music companies argued that the songs were theft, and the woman had to pay hundreds of dollars in fines per song because it was legally considered theft to use something like napster.
I would rather download for free and donate money straight to the artist(s)..
that way the labels don’t get to steal their money ;)
A lot of this stuff is actually fake news that record companies USED to deinsentivize people from 'pirating' things.
The vast majority of these cases are a slap on the wrist, settled outside of court (usually the person promises really hard never to do it again).
Or which is the most common, they almost NEVER get people for downloading, its always distributing.
Be careful about reading those articles. I sincerely sincerely doubt that the court actually prosecuted someone on 60 pirated songs and charged them each a fine for each one of them treating it as theft.
What was likely was that the prosecuter used the law as it was stated to get the harshest sentence possible and which then allows the defense to negotiate down from there, so that they can say they got them on something (which is sadly a common tactic in law).
The reason being that the average American cannot pay 40k, and if you're pirating songs you definitely aren't wealthy, the average American would be financially crippled from a random $300.00 bill they got for the month (real statistic you can look up.)
But this was a marketing tactic that record companies used similar to the McDonalds coffee scandal, that they failed miserably on but want you to think they got big wins on.
Edit:
Keep in mind you can be charged with something (charged with 50 counts of theft amounting to X amount in damages and paying for X amount in fines) and then the prosecution settles with you out of court, meaning you don't pay for any fines or damages because you're a poor sap.
Most of the time, if a person gets sued its so they can shut down your distribution platform, there's been barely any cases of anyone actually accruing damages from being sued by a record company in court over pirated music unless they were selling or distributing.
there is a really cool YT video named "The people who were sued for downloading music... whatever happened to them?". The gist is that the music industry tried to target individuals who pirated music and they failed tremendously because:
1. the law was pretty interpretable at the time (and it still kinda is), so really long trials;
2. trials were expensive and the records companies got jack shit from them. Ofc a random, mediocre citizen won't ever pay a fine of 100.000$, so all the people who were condemned or who settled the lawsuit outside of court just declared personal insolvency and that was it
3. really bad PR publicity. Imagine being a record company and getting on the first page of all newspapers for hunting highschool kids cause of piracy. Madness :S
So they all gave up and f***ed off, but they still complain that piracy "destroys" their industry to this day
She’s the Jesus Christ for piraters, she took all the crimes and penalties for us to pirate freely ✝️
My problem with calling something piracy is how you going to fine me when your stuff is available for free by using a different service than you. That always baffles me like how when I pay 60 dollars for a game and am forced to agree to TOS if I want to play it or is this when pirating is okay?
It reminds me of KSI who pirated Vegas Pro while crying out about people pirating his movie :D
wait really
A movie?? Wat
Guys, KSI made movie. But whoah, he pirated Sony Vegas Pro, yet complained as his movie pirated? Doesn't he understand the mirror of himself?! 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
@@JOELwindows7 ye how dare we complain that someone doesnt do what they preach? Paying for stuff nope buying my stuff yes
if the movie was edited from the same pirated copy of vegas pro i'm going to be fucking dying
When I was a kid, I didn't have a credit card and convincing my parents that I needed this game or that movie wasn't something I was keen to do. Plus, this way my parents didn't have to pay for it at all.
One thing that always feels like an excuse is whenever companies complain about piracy of their software losing them sales. A lot of the time when somebody pirates something, it's because they either can't afford it, or wanna try it out before buying it, there's no sales lost there. The person without the money wouldn't have been able to buy it anyways, and the person trying it out usually buys it after pirating it, unless they genuinely didn't like the product, and would probably try to get a refund. That excuse usually comes from huge companies who wouldn't even be affected by lost sales that much anyways, the only time you shouldn't pirate something is if you wanna financially support the creator of that work, like with indie game studios.
I read it as "my thoughts on privacy" and i was like: thats pretty obvious aint it?
I knew it wasn't only me that read the title that way
Glad you remembered to mention the exception of smaller creators. They rarely have any power by influence sadly, buying physical copies are a great way to promote their stuff, and they often take a lot of care in making it good
I wish indies could sell physical copies of their games for PC on USB sticks or micro SD cards.
@@typehere6689 they absolutely can, it is just not always worth it for the production costs/risks of stuff not selling. I do wish they did this more often though.
Your voice are so calming, i let your videos run on the background while i do mundane tasks like modding skyrim, rimworld, or just let it play on my PC when i play mobile games.
Now this is the type of quality content I want to see more of in my feed.
I still remember that some years ago the devs for the game "Darkwood" put their game on TPB. A few days later multiple journos wrote about it, and thus they basically received free advertising; iirc the game sold pretty well for an indie.
Pretty based imo. And the game is great.
The game got a lot of extra sales even before the journos wrote about this. People just downloaded it, liked it and bought it. I've done the same thing with dozens of games, and have friends who do the same. It's the idiot devs fault for not giving us demos anymore.
@@beetheimmortal Yeah, I agree. If I tried a game through "informal" means and liked it, if it's from an indie dev I always end up buying it. I always support small indie developers because they're really doing stuff they're passionate about.
@@beetheimmortal Oh yes, I miss demos so hard...
You mean that horror game??
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I think you actually nailed it at the top of it's definition and actual facts. Using non licensed software activated in a way or another it will bring more people to buy at some point. Even the free advertising that is a fu**ing lot (otherwise it would be needed a ton of money to reach to so many people), it helps on the long run.
Of course, i have to underline, for the BIG companies it is. For small business, it may be 50-50%. They know from the beginning the way it will work and they'll need to bring up their strategies to survive that times.
Regarding "small" musicians and other people like that, yeah, they really really need support.
Love your content bruh. Keep it on. At some point i will go for youtube red or w/e is called, but for now i just spread the word for your work. No income is bad and i still help ppl in RL a lot, but almost nobody helps me.
But i keep going and people like you make me want to go on.
So keep it tight, and be well man!
Cheers
Level-headed and concise. Next time somebody asks me what my views on piracy are, I'm just gonna link them this video, because I feel exactly the same way about it on basically every point.
I like to see piracy as competition to the actual paid product, especially for games and movies: if your game has intrusive DRM and an always online requirement, or do stuff like region locks, people will just pirate it. This is why stuff like Netflix and Steam are so good: they give an a convenient and legal way to enjoy the content, much more convenient than pirating it.
pretty much, i live in south america and i have never bought a pc game, but i really want to buy my favorite indie games like katana zero anz hollow knight to support the developers AND get to try things like the steam workshop for rivals of aether
But still, netflix removes and adds stuff when it wants. I have a netflix subscription, but i still pirate most series. I watch legally what i can, i porate what i can't
It's all fun and games until games which have intrusive DRM and always online requirements started showing up on Steam.
You can still just pirate them, of course. But I have seen games that's deliberately designed by the developers to be useless when played in offline mode. **coughs MK11 coughs**
Companies hate competition so they hate piracy
“By the way Adobe, I pirated CS7 and it’s not even as good as CS6.”
Pirating things allows allow them to become popular. I’ve heard from the 8-bit guy about phreaking when they used it to share not free software (which was basically just pay phone piracy), that they only did piracy because they weren’t getting their money anyway.
That’s basically my ethics when it comes to piracy. If they’re well established, and they’re not going to get your money anyway, it’s 100% ok.
In fact good things have been killed by anti-piracy
Speaking of old stuff, Sega would have been much more popular if they didn't have that "couldn't detect CD-ROM. Please insert and try again" thingie.
I remember when my parents bought Photoshop back in 2011. It was cheap, but it worked fine. Now, with annual subscriptions, and Adobe making old software not work, I'd rather download cracked Photoshop and use it while I can.
You could also check out affinity apps. I replaced ai and ps with them. Maybe their 2.0 release sale is still on.
Which website did you get the hacked photoshop please?
This is exactly what happened with me and After Effects. The 7 day trial is not enough to create and explore with it... Instead I pirated after effects for only a few months before I ended up buying the entire creative cloud. Without piracy, I would not pursuing motion graphics as a professional career and Adobe would not have a single dime from me
If pirating software is a lost sale, then should leaving a bad review be illegal since it causes less sales?
I'm sure there are many companies that lowkey want it to be
don't give them any ideas
It’s more of a lost sale because the thing sucks, not so much the same as missing out on a paying customer
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@Omar Valentini Piracy could be a demo for some cases
When I was a broke student I pirated everything I could. Then I discovered Open Source and portable software, and I stopped pirating software because it was more convenient. Now that things are somewhat better income wise I rarely pirate media. I buy on steam, gog, humble bundle. I share Netflix, Disney and Amazon prime accounts. I barely have time to pirate stuff anymore. Gabe Newell was right, piracy was a matter of convenience.
All though quality wise piracy is better as you can get 1:1 Blu-ray rips but that comes down to how big you are on home theater
Piracy was the only way i (roughly most people in my country as well) could get to play videogames (PS1 and PS2), a whole country... not only did it not make a significant change on sony's sales performance, but also Brazil is one of the bigger gaming market out there.
But honestly, my bigger "like" to piracy is the hability to preserve things as they were (movies, series, and some games, untouched)
being a major anime fan launched me into this behavior, and learning more about that industry kept it going.
at this point i'm in the atmosphere.
recently started watching anime again *for free* and it's great. if i like the anime, i'll buy the blu-ray from japan. done giving my money to sony while they censor and alter the content i enjoy.
Gotta love Nyaan.
You know that Sony also owns Aniplex and therefore studios like A1-Pictures and Clover works?! The money still gets to Sony. The people that worked on it were already paid (most of the time).
@@zekiz774 indeed
@@zekiz774 Sony also has huge investments in Bluray if i correctly remember as well.
@@d544 Yes. They developed it.
If I actually care about an artist I will find one way or another to support them. Big companies like spotify and apple music don't give a shit about the artist and give the artist the short end of the stick anyway. I literally only use spotify for it's song suggestion features to find similar music. There are other and more valid ways of supporting artist.
I remember Mental recommending a free app with similar features, can't remember the name.
@@bioemiliano Damn, I gotta search for that, because I can’t stand how Spotify keeps increasing their ad breaks. They’re even longer than radio ad breaks now.
@@bioemiliano you probably mean Nuclear
You have a great point right there. Especially for Adobe software.
I only started pirating movies and shows recently and my god I'll never go back to streaming.
I think what prevented me from pirating for so long was how much anti-piracy propaganda there was and still is but especially in the 2000s which was definitely the height of the piracy scare.
There's one anti-piracy PSA for VHS tapes that will forever stick in my mind, where a narrator says and with big text at the top saying "video piracy is a crime, do NOT accept it" and those words did scare me as a kid.
But luckily I joined the good site and am now a based pirate sailing the seas
Lmfaoo
one of the piracy thing was taken down because it had stolen music
I've never had qualms about digital "piracy." Companies like to say I'm taking profit from them by not paying for my copies of files. But the whole point of me pirating is I can't pay for it, they wouldn't have gotten any money from me anyway.
in brazil we have this legend that original ps2 games existed
bus seriously 500 bucks for a game in brazil, that's a joke and I'm still waiting to get my money and a good sale for some games because EVERYTHING in brazil os expensive, EVERYTHING
I'm half convinced that the 'Going to Brazil' meme is truthful.
@@thatonegoblin7051 Make it full
@@thatonegoblin7051 the best thing that you can do here is to leave
This is pretty much the same in most third world countries.
how much does genuine copy of windows there?
11 months late but finally i hear someone that gets me! also third world countries arent on the same page either since most dont even have access to a medium or the knowledge of a way to pay for it even...
Thanks for the video!
7:28 Basically, piracy is what breaks the catch22 of not having money due to not having experience due to not having a program due to not having money in the first place. It's like some sort of a "Universal Basic Income" except without politics.
I wouldn’t call it UBI but o agree with what you’re saying.
Or the companies can be like WinRAR, why pirate when the free trail pretty much is the full version and the trail only really expires after you determine it is
I have used WinRar in the past. But for years I use 7zip and there are only advantages to it. No ads, Foss and works the same
@@egtegs I had those buttons on my mouse but I've changed it to a wireless one which doesn't
@@hellomine2849 also compresses better. lol
@@cetinkaya_metal yeah I only use the .7z file format with ultra setting for archiving XD
many people have start using paid version of winrar now
I’d like to view piracy as a balancing act.
Too little piracy: Companies get away with whatever they want, if governments go hard on piracy.
Too much piracy: Companies begin noticing and get governments to go hard on piracy, leading to the first point.
Piracy is… fine if there’s a limit.
True!
In my country, in the 1990s, everybody had an illegal music cassette copy of Michael Jackson/ Depeche Mode/ Metallica/ etc.'s albums.
All of these artists had, and some of them still have, huge concerts in my country!
Piracy is a form of advertisement.
My reason for piracy: Subscriptions - I don't mind paying once for something I want to get but Subscriptions for something that is not a service just suck! (and slapping a forced cloud service no one uses anyways on it just to rectify it doesn't count)
But I generally prefer open source applications where that is most often not the case anyways! ^^
edit: another reason for piracy (at least for me) is DRM restrictions (kinda ironic isn't it?) and geo blocking because I can get more content easier for free instead of paying for limited choice!
basically Adobe in these past years..
My reason for piracy: i live in brazil
I would compare software piracy to recieving a student license from the company itself.
They know that once you're proficient in that particular program you're likely to require that program from your employer and they will absolutely have to pay for the license to avoid legal issues.
Software piracy from large companies are a straight up good investment for them.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING MALWARE, literally the big reason I don't wanna get into piracy as of now.
Go on to safe sites and you won't get malware.
@@idogaming3532 define safe sites
@@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT self explanatory, but a site that DOESN'T try to infect your device.
Straight to point, no lies, just facts. Good video.
Btw the best example would be winrar, they become, almost, the monopoly for using compression on a enterprise and user level for files. They couldn't have done it without them making ordinary users not pay for their services. So it was just a legimate piracy for everyone to use, so to say. Same thing applies for many of the software around, aside from indie developers I guess.
You mentioned that "tech managers and stuff think that that most code = most productive"
Well, I disagree with that point. On my experience, what I see is that tech managers let bloat pass because they have a policy of "get it working" regardless of whether it will run well or not -- and developers do not have the time to optimize, or even refactor those components unless they get specifically requested to do so. This on the long run creates bloated software.
I'm convinced at this point devs promote their software through piracy nowdays.
Some smaller game developers have done exactly that by putting their own copy of the game on torrent sites. I don't remember which ones exactly but I'm sure someone here knows.
@Omar Valentini I'd count that as a "demo" in a way. You still could play their game, but it's unwinnable. It probably got them tons of free press just from doing that
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@@justitgstuff5284 I remember the devs for darkwood did exactly this, asking that if you like the game, consider buying it through a legal means when you can;Just not key resellers. I ended up getting it on gog on sale.
Those expirimental beta versions of steam games probably do this. It is not a final version and helps build numbers.
I'll at least say this, I will never own a legitimate copy of any Adobe software.
fax, my cracked adobe cs6 works perfect for everything i need and i don't need or want to upgrade
He just took the high road....I love this channel. I used a pirated software for a long time until I got a job and started paying for it.
we could replace all creative works with a 'free, but donate here plz' button, and due to the law of large numbers, there would be a staggering increase in profits across the board. Good indie artists would actually make real money, and the top 100 would change overnight forever. if someone really likes something they'll throw everything they have at it.
and we will be looking for a modified version of that software to get rid of the donate button, we still don't have money to give away. not a cent. stick to your last sentence and leave it at that.
I once saw a meme that said: "Piracy isn't stealing because the owner still has the thing. Imagine if your car got stolen but you still had the car".
i guess youre stealing the profits of the owner
but fuck'em anyway
@@zyugyzarc Not like the owners get that much money from sales.
You didn't mention this: most people who pirate things wouldn't spend money on the thing. I wouldn't spend a cent on a program I pirated, so if piracy wasn't an option, I would just do something else
Back in the day we used to call closed source software that spied, spiked and performed unconsented actions MALWARE. Life was simple and straightforward.
"Piracy" in propietary software is nothing but a signal of status quo for the propietary software developers.
You nailed it, you're gonna hit 100k in no time. Not a fan of some stuff you put out but this is normal, you can't please everyone.
it took me 6 months to notice the St. Anger cd in the thumbnail, nice reference
The one that blew my mind was when an old copy of Pshop I had deleted itself because I forgot to shut it down when I was online - it used to call home and make sure it was a registered version. I was actually watching when the icon flashed, then disappeared! It's built in, but it atill creeped me out witnessing a uninstall command actuated remotely. I still use it occasionally, but Gimp does pretty much everything I want.
Moment I saw piracy I know this video is gonna get demonitized
woah! using a definition in their real context - caaaaareful mate.
Very well pointed out.
Thank you youtube , i asked for certified boy lover and you gave me this great gentleman
Cool video, but you should also mention how certain companies deliberately restrict context in certain countries or make such content entirely unavailable (cough Nintendo and Mario 3D All-stars cough)
As an Engineer doing research, it's almost impossible to afford the softwares. I wish I knew how to crack them because some of the softwares I want are not even cracked.
Absolutely, most of the really strong engineering softwares are incredibly expensive because it's marketed towards businesses with hundreds of employees. My dad who's a vibration technitian (yes I know it sounds lewd) uses software that costs tens of thousands of dollars each year for a single lisence
@@TheZebinatorofficial yea for my Civil Eng college classes I had to use a software that cost 1,300 USD a year 😬
how is it not cracked? seems kinda impossible in 2022 lmao
@@stoppls1709 it's really niche software that only enterprises use and have no value to te average joe, cracking scenes only want popularity for cracking software that many people are looking for, not something that 3 or 4 people are searching for a very specific use
@@nicolasbellido7207 damn that's sad :/
yo what wm/de you using it looks sick
Good video, I watched this with network-wide ad blocking, an ad-blocking extension, and sponsor block. Cheers! lol
I still remember a time when you needed Adobe Flash to be able to watch any video online. It took a decision from the W3C on the HTML 5 standards to see more and more websites ditch the proprietary blackmail of Adobe. Unfortunately, it can go both ways.
9/10 there's a FOSS alternative to the program you want that's equal to or better than whatever you want to pirate. unless it's adobe.
but yeah, pirating a 10 year old game or movie from a billion dollar studio isn't gonna short, slight, or hurt anyone.
Yea it really sucks that there isnt a good alternative to things like Photoshop. PhotoGIMP is pretty close, but not close enough for me.
what about Visual Studio, I am kept captive by it in Windows
@Finxert nah dude they are all editors I mean the IDE
@@mihai9647 I guess it's more of a 'right tool for right job' and experience thing. On Windows I have few other choices and it performs well; on GNU/Linux platforms I may just switch to either GCC or LLVM toolchain and they work fine as long as you make the step to get familiar with them, all of which are excellent pieces of software - just what you are used to.
(In contradiction I used so much Adobe suite for video editing and visual effects that I just cannot get into other type of thinking, be it proprietary or FOSS - at least yet. Literally kidnapped. If I spend some time I might get better with other software too, just that I haven't turned away from Adobe yet.
@@mihai9647 there is vim plugins to turn it into an IDE and there are terminal programs/commands to troubleshoot your code.
just my 2 cents : ]
In some strange way Piracy on games also made me save a lot of money. Things like always online server based games or DRM'd games like Denuvo made me turn away in disgust and instead look at core indie games that are usually not only cheaper but also usually more player friendly like mod-support or constant updates (i.e terraria)
I used to have a less then legit copy of paint tool sai when I was a kid and once I got a job I was able to buy I did cause I liked the software and it was an amount I could afford so this logic checks out. It's a real shame that a lot of these larger companies like adobe set their prices so high as it legit makes it harder to justify the jump or even using their software all together.
GPL = Gangsta Pirate License