I think the biggest problem with the emperor is that you get it just before entering frostburn canyon where you get a free lascaux. It's very easy to replace when you would get it. Other than it's an okay gun.
Ye it's like the best for speed farming certain raid bosses. With a tediore axton build you can get some of the fastest kills of you know how to set it up
Get a tediore reload Axton build, get elemental baby makers, tediore plasma casters, and other tediore weapon types for back up and give it a go, I don't know if you know weapon parts but it does make a difference to overall damage output, I've got thousands of hours played with multiple builds for all characters so I might be able to give you some useful advice if needed, I've got a lot of borderlands related videos on CZcams if you wanna check them for ideas or whatever, even criticise if you must 🤣
I enjoyed the video, and the list makes a lot of sense. Learning about other people's opinions are cool and hearing your list isn't a carbon copy of everyone else's list nets you respect from me. You are using your own experiences instead of letting other people sway your choices. :) You are right as I would change this list. You explained yourself well and I see why this list is setup this way. I don't disagree with this list just that my preferences are different. I saw another comment and have to agree with edenengland1883 as one per playthrough for the Crit and you drop it into the grinder on accident, I still can't believe that happened, loses your Crit for that playthrough. The only good thing that could somewhat fix this is the ability to replay OP levels but having to restart your entire game for a new gun you are likely to lose just...well, sucks. I want to share a challenge idea with you that I haven't with anyone else. Can you beat Borderlands as assassin Fiev? Use all level 80 weapons that the assassins drop in an OP 0 run as Zer0, those weapons, any grenade, shield, etc. but works even with a melee build if necessary or any build. What do you think? Is it possible?
Yeah the Tediore problem is mostly. Learning Curve and having VH that boosts Grenade damage. They Are mostly Krieg And Axton guns. The Baby maker is so underpowered when you have it non elemental. It requiers matching element and the enemies slagged. Since you usualy can hit all of it's reload damage based on where it hits. The Closer Tediore hits to head/critical spot the more damage it does. So with Baby maker you mostly hit feet. And also how many enemies resist splash damage overall. With Avenger once again, you drop it in UVHM where it needs elements. The Reload damage is highest ingame but. It has stupid learning curve. The amount of bounces is based on ammo left in Magazine so even the explosion. Infection cleaner has explosive reload damage despite being allways fire. So it's worse Avenger. With Yellow Jacket it's just odd. The Projectiles stars slow And accelarate until they are hitscan, the ball model just dissapears. It would work. If it wasn't Hyperion. That's the main problem with it. It',$ not short range accurate. But long range, with it's reverse recoil you can't make use out of it until you hit accuraccy_max. If you ADS the muzzle flash and the shock balls block vision. So it's f*cked in way different way it seems... It being shock only doesn't help either
Yeah that's why I rated them all based on averages around all characters and tediore will always be very low and I love tediore It's just that the weapons are terrible for the most part
@@imwalther23 What you think about Bandit, I don't like those the most. And even if they make the most amount of items. I honestly like just Launchers and Smgs by them. In compare to Tediore even their E-techs are odd. Prazma Cannon is weak, Plasma caster doesn't have Grenade splash damage and weirdly enough Splasher Blaster does. No Basic legendary grenade or shield (Cluster-Fun & Bigg Thumper btw) Tediore would be cool, but they forgot it like BL3 Atlas. For example. Imagine Moxxi's Tediore gun. I would want that
@@kvetoslavzeleny1764 Yeah bandit is pretty bad but I still will eventually do a run with them just to see how bad they actually are but no legendary grenades or shields definitely sucks
@@imwalther23 Hmm, Depending on what character you roll with Bandit actualy. But the shields... Big oof. At least with nades you can get Cluster Fun and Mirv/Betties for slag, in case you would need to use anything else for slag than Slaga. You'll see dw
So, you don't like SMGs and making an SMG top. Funny :) It's look like if make a Launchers top (though I don't like ammo count and cost of ammo). Torgue's Durp should be #1 :))) and second should be PZAZMA CANON just for my shooting to the sky and watching those ball falling down :)))))
the worst part about the Crit is that you can only get one per playthrough, meaning losing it suuuucks cuz its gone forever
I think the biggest problem with the emperor is that you get it just before entering frostburn canyon where you get a free lascaux. It's very easy to replace when you would get it. Other than it's an okay gun.
Yeah that's actually a great point
Main problem with Emperor is that it is really, really boring.
I like Emperor more than Lascaux. I've got fire Emperor it perform stronger than Hellfire
The avenger is really good for raid bossing with certain builds
Ye it's like the best for speed farming certain raid bosses. With a tediore axton build you can get some of the fastest kills of you know how to set it up
It goes so low Because it is only good with very specific builds
@ImWalther23 that's fair it's definitely not for every build. I'm an average tediore enjoyer so I'll stand up to any tediore slander
@@uptowngrundy4778 That's fair but this is mainly just a list for smg's as smg's
The Avenger/Infection Cleaner is awesome
I think the opossed way, smgs are the best type of guns.
Get a tediore reload Axton build, get elemental baby makers, tediore plasma casters, and other tediore weapon types for back up and give it a go, I don't know if you know weapon parts but it does make a difference to overall damage output, I've got thousands of hours played with multiple builds for all characters so I might be able to give you some useful advice if needed, I've got a lot of borderlands related videos on CZcams if you wanna check them for ideas or whatever, even criticise if you must 🤣
I enjoyed the video, and the list makes a lot of sense. Learning about other people's opinions are cool and hearing your list isn't a carbon copy of everyone else's list nets you respect from me. You are using your own experiences instead of letting other people sway your choices. :)
You are right as I would change this list. You explained yourself well and I see why this list is setup this way. I don't disagree with this list just that my preferences are different. I saw another comment and have to agree with edenengland1883 as one per playthrough for the Crit and you drop it into the grinder on accident, I still can't believe that happened, loses your Crit for that playthrough. The only good thing that could somewhat fix this is the ability to replay OP levels but having to restart your entire game for a new gun you are likely to lose just...well, sucks.
I want to share a challenge idea with you that I haven't with anyone else. Can you beat Borderlands as assassin Fiev? Use all level 80 weapons that the assassins drop in an OP 0 run as Zer0, those weapons, any grenade, shield, etc. but works even with a melee build if necessary or any build. What do you think? Is it possible?
Wow that actually does sound pretty fun so basically each of their uniques plus the emperor maybe I'm adding to the list definitely :)
@@imwalther23 Just got my net back. **sigh** I'm glad you like that idea. :D
the emperor lasted me a few lvls, especially since it's base dmg was 3x anything else i had at the time xD
Yeah the Tediore problem is mostly. Learning Curve and having VH that boosts Grenade damage. They Are mostly Krieg And Axton guns.
The Baby maker is so underpowered when you have it non elemental. It requiers matching element and the enemies slagged. Since you usualy can hit all of it's reload damage based on where it hits. The Closer Tediore hits to head/critical spot the more damage it does. So with Baby maker you mostly hit feet.
And also how many enemies resist splash damage overall.
With Avenger once again, you drop it in UVHM where it needs elements. The Reload damage is highest ingame but. It has stupid learning curve. The amount of bounces is based on ammo left in Magazine so even the explosion.
Infection cleaner has explosive reload damage despite being allways fire. So it's worse Avenger.
With Yellow Jacket it's just odd. The Projectiles stars slow And accelarate until they are hitscan, the ball model just dissapears. It would work. If it wasn't Hyperion. That's the main problem with it. It',$ not short range accurate. But long range, with it's reverse recoil you can't make use out of it until you hit accuraccy_max. If you ADS the muzzle flash and the shock balls block vision. So it's f*cked in way different way it seems... It being shock only doesn't help either
Yeah that's why I rated them all based on averages around all characters and tediore will always be very low and I love tediore It's just that the weapons are terrible for the most part
@@imwalther23 What you think about Bandit, I don't like those the most. And even if they make the most amount of items. I honestly like just Launchers and Smgs by them. In compare to Tediore even their E-techs are odd. Prazma Cannon is weak, Plasma caster doesn't have Grenade splash damage and weirdly enough Splasher Blaster does. No Basic legendary grenade or shield (Cluster-Fun & Bigg Thumper btw)
Tediore would be cool, but they forgot it like BL3 Atlas. For example. Imagine Moxxi's Tediore gun. I would want that
@@kvetoslavzeleny1764 Yeah bandit is pretty bad but I still will eventually do a run with them just to see how bad they actually are but no legendary grenades or shields definitely sucks
@@imwalther23 Hmm, Depending on what character you roll with Bandit actualy. But the shields... Big oof. At least with nades you can get Cluster Fun and Mirv/Betties for slag, in case you would need to use anything else for slag than Slaga. You'll see dw
@@kvetoslavzeleny1764 Bandit run will definitely be with krieg he seems to be a great option especially because most bandit shields are roid shields
So, you don't like SMGs and making an SMG top. Funny :)
It's look like if make a Launchers top (though I don't like ammo count and cost of ammo). Torgue's Durp should be #1 :))) and second should be PZAZMA CANON just for my shooting to the sky and watching those ball falling down :)))))
Top ten worst smgs: 98% of them
Yep
you say: smg is your least favorite weapon type then which weapon type is your absolute favorite? greetings
Shotguns or RPG's definitely
i agree with the list 100%