The Career of Patrick Marleau
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- He set a record for most games played by an NHL player and won gold as a member of Team Canada on multiple occasions. Is he headed for the Hall of Fame?
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Getzlaf, Brown, and Marleau. California hockey is going into a new era.
Thornton is probably gonna retire too
@@kylet9023 Yeah, he, Chara, and Marleau are all about the same vintage and for me at least they're all first-ballot Hall of Famers whenever they hang up the skates
23 years.... 3 different teams.... played against Gretzky in his rookie season, played against Crosby in his one Stanley Cup Final appearance, passed Howe for most games played in the NHL... yet not a single individual trophy or ring to show for that career.
However, His ONE record of 1779 NHL games will legitimately never be touched because... JUST TO TIE IT, a newly drafted player would have to first make their team's roster, then play ALL 82 games... for 21.7 STRAIGHT SEASONS (1779/82 rounded), and that assumes they miss ZERO games for sickness, or injury, or personal matters. They should name the "Iron man streak" the "Marleau streak", since Marleau also is top 5 for consecutive games played.
How many players in the league right now have even played 20 seasons, let alone 22?
His name will never be on the Stanley Cup, but his name SHOULD be remembered for his longevity at the highest level of pro hockey.
Completely agree.
Ok
No
Kessel will beat it next season.
His 1779 games is totally beatable. Lmao
There's a ton of guys that aren't far off of it, and several guys that could've played even more but didn't.
That makes it a very beatable record.
What impressed me most about Patrick is he was so maligned for being "unengaged" while young but stayed in the league and was valued as a mentor for young players to demonstrate professionalism late in his career. He mostly played for peanuts late as well.
Watched him his whole career. I do agree with the assessments of him being unengaged. I don't think its as simple as that though. To be as consistent, dedicated, and passionate as him you cant be reckless, so that does bring a different approach to situations. Because of the constant playoff disappointments he always seemed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, having the camera on him when the luck turned so to speak. Looking back, I don't think he was captain material but I don't think they necessarily had a better option either. You cant just hand your "best" player the C, Thornton I paint along the same lines, amazing professionalism and leadership qualities but as far as being that guy to depend on in the key moments I just didn't get that feeling.
He belongs in the hall. I think he should go in with Joe, retire both their numbers in San Jose, get a new GM, get some fresh blood on the ice and lets start a new era of Sharks hockey and finish what we started in 2016 to prove to the league it is deserved in teal town.
He played for 700 k for two years after making 90 million over his career. That’s called trying to stay in the nhl but mostly understanding you don’t need any more money!
Marleau and Thornton (and Blake) were just keeping the "C" warm until our true captain was ready.
@@TyLikesToast who’s that?
I was fortunate to meet Patrick in person at a Sharks training camp in the early 2000s. The session was over and he had just stepped off the ice when I asked for a photo. He not only agreed, but he also asked an assistant to take the photo. Then he checked to make sure I was cool with the results. It was so nice of him to do that despite being obviously tired and ready to change and go home. But that’s how the man is: classy and kind.
Patrick is one of the most instrumental pieces of the canes continued success and I can’t thank him enough
There will forever be a spot at the tailgate for him in Carolina.
Seth Jarvis is looking like he’ll be a very good top 6 forward for the future. Great pick at 13th overall. Aho, Svech, Terra, Jarvis, Trocheck, and Necas is a sick top 6
Marleau adopted Jo Pawvelski, the little, black stray kitty who found her way onto the SAP Center ice in Game 3 of their series with Nashville in 2016, along with another feline friend. He may or may not make the Hockey HOF, but giving Jo and her friend a home puts him in mine.
Mentioned by Sharks President Jonathan Becher at the retirement ceremony this morning, which I attended: Marleau has been on the ice with 37% of all players who've ever played in the NHL, and skated alongside 71% (as I recall) of every player who has ever donned a Sharks jersey. He was not dressed for less than 40 games in his 21 years as a Shark, and has the 5th longest ironman streak (910 games) in NHL history after Yandle, Kessel, Doug Jarvis, and Garry Unger; he was nearing 41 when his streak ended.
As a Sharks fan, it’s a bittersweet day. Happy that we had him, sad that it’s now over.
Patty is the tops in several scoring records. He DEFINITELY belongs in the Hall.
Feel so fortunate that I was there to see him break Gordie Howe’s record.
Love you Patty❤️
Mr Shark forever!!!
I don't care what type of player you are, he played the most games of any person ever to play. He could have been a grinder with 200 points, I think most games played ever should get you into the Hall
I agree with this 100% :D
Add 4 gold medals to this, 25th all time in goals and 50th all time in points, he'll get in 100%
HOF no doubt.
No one has mentioned his hair. Those locks alone deserve a HOF. That's a haircut you could set your watch to. Just sayin'.
Absolutely no.
That makes zero friggen sense.
Marleau was an average to good/ very good player for a very long time.
Nothing he ever did as a player was Hall of Fame caliber. He was incredibly durable and was a compiler..
No Cups.
No major awards.
He was never considered to be among the best guys of his era in the league, or even at his position.
He's around 340th in ppg average, so he wasn't a great scorer.
He wasn't known for great defense or even two way play.
Great guy. An amazingly durable career, but he doesn't belong in the Hall.
If he does get in, he'll get in over several other much more deserving players that have been kept out.
Marleau and Thornton could possibly go in together.
Does that not sound perfect though?
I think the entire hockey world would love this
I think the argument that "He didn't win a championship so he's not a Hall of Famer" or that it may hurt his chances is really stupid. Hockey is a team sport it's not one guy doing everything, even the great one didn't win a single Stanley Cup after he got traded to LA. Individual succeses are not always team succceses and the Hall is made up of individuals not teams.
Agree. Given there are now 32 teams in the league, the "not winning" the Cup shouldn't keep someone out. However, I think if there's a borderline player, but was a major factor in a team winning a cup, then that may put that person in.
For example. Kessel. Right now, I don't think he's HoF worthy. But, the Pens don't win those two Cups in without him. And arguably he should have won the Conn Smyth the one year. So, when his career is over, depending on how the next few seasons go...if he's borderline, I think those two Cups (and the fact that he was a major part in winning those) may make him HoF worthy in my eyes.
It’s not just the cups it’s the fact he’s never won any individual awards as well as numbers that aren’t anything special
@@dmacg5520 I agree. Especially since that team was filled with all stars who overshadowed him. He was always seen as pretty good, but not THE guy. He’s 50/50 for me. I just can’t point out one thing about his game that really wows me
@@aguynamedjake462 exactly like he’s not a bad player but he’s not a hall of famer, like He’s Genuinely done nothing impressive other then play lots of games
Patrick Marleau was my first ever favorite player when I became a hockey fan. I legitimately cried when I read his piece in the Hockey Tribune and it makes me sad to see him go. I hope the Sharks bring him in in a coaching role because Mr San Jose definitely still has something he can give to the sport. He may not be a player anymore, and I know he will get into the HoF, I just hope he doesn't leave the sport forever
2 Shark videos in 1 day?!? Is this what it feels like to be in a popular market? :)
Coming from a leafs fans, from what I've seen he was a major influence on the development of the younger stars. Although Marleau didn't win a cup, he brought so much to the game of hockey that we can't simply measure. He's not one of those players out there for individual achievements or to get paid, he is a team first guy. Anyone who has played with him is lucky.
I was at the Canucks game where he scored his 500th goal. Congratulations Patty! Great career!
Now I am feeling old. I remember watching him with the Seattle Thunderbirds. Yikes!
Same here. I was a season ticket holder for his whole career in Seattle. It was awesome watching him grow and go on to such a long career.
@@kenbiery807 I was fortunate and hit it at a time when Petr Nedved, Turner Stevenson, Glen Goodall, Brenden Witt, played. Just to name a few.
He had an amazing career. Sucks he didn’t get a cup, but he gave a lot of memories for Sharks fans.
Always a total class act as a player and person. Our first season with Sharks seasons tickets was 1997 so I had the pleasure of watching those Coach Darryl Sutter teams with Patrick Marleau, Owen Nolan, Brad Stuart, Mike Ricchi etc. It's definitely the end of a Era with Marleau's retirement, see you around town Patrick!
One of my best Marleau memories was back in the Spring of '97 when he was a 17 year old on the Seattle Thunderbirds he put up 12 points in 6 games against my hometown team, the Prince George Cougars, in the WHL Western Finals, The Cougars had both 17 year old Eric Brewer and 19 year old Zdeno Chara on the backend. Seattle won the series but that was when I knew that Marleau was going to be special. I was only 15 years old at the time. I never imagined that six weeks shy of my 41st birthday Patrick Marleau would official retire and Zdeno Chara is still playing!!
Being that good for that long is very special and worthy of the hall of fame, even if you never necessarily “dominate”. He was reliably a top 6 forward for over 20 years, that’s unheard of even for the ‘greats’.
I used to watch a lot of west coast games before bed back in the day, became a big fan of his that way. I hope he enjoys his retirement and thanks for the memories!
My favoriter player ever, ever since i got an interest for hockey in 00 (I Was 10 then).
A well deserved retirement for a fantastic player, hope he enjoys it!
San Jose needs to retire his number 12
Forever Mr. 🦈
It was heavily implied at the retirement announcement that they will retire it. Someone asked Jonathan Becher when his number was being retired and he said something along the lines of "we need to see next year's schedule."
12, 19, 8, & 88 will all be up there someday
That looks like dolphin not a shark? Perhaps telling regarding Marleau, because he played cute and dolphins are cute.
@@okyouknowwhatever I didn't know dolphins had gills! When did that happen?!
@@jonmendelson1104 Evolution. ;)
I Enjoyed Watching Patrick Marleau A lot As a Flyers Fan Dispite That He Played For Rival Penguins For One Year And He Should Be in The HOF Someday!
HOF for sure. I know there are a lot of HOF candidates who didn't get in, but I think other people maybe even more deserving than Marleau being robbed doesn't justify him not making it.
Absolutely a HOF player for me. I think you can be worthy of it for many different reasons, and whenever there is "most x in history"(and its not something stupid, like most penalty minutes in an 8-2 game before the midseason kind of shit) I think that is a big reason to say yes.
Not Hall of Fame
I don't know how many player have played in NHL in their over 100 years history. But it have to be a lot and Marleau have played most. I think that alone is HOF worthy because you have to be a very good player to stay in NHL for so long.
@@sigtyr8887 There are more games now than before, and a way softer league, and Marleau played soft.
In Marleau's 2nd best season per all-star voting at LW, in 2011, he just barely edged out Patrick Sharp (and actually scored at a lower per game clip than Sharp). So his second best season, powered by Joe Thornton, was Patrick Sharp level. No slight on Patrick Sharp, he was a good player, but that's not HHOF level.
If Marleau gets into the HHOF, all you will hear about it in the future is how he's one of the worst one in there, and how it's undeserved, and "why isn't this other [mediocre] guy in, he's no worse than Marleau". I actually think it will be unnecessarily detrimental to his reputation. No one remembers Dino Ciccarelli, for instance, in a more favorable light because he got into the HHOF. Only thing I hear about Dino nowadays is either "indecent exposure" or "weak HHOFer", not anything about his actual hockey greatness.
Having a cup on the resume would make Patrick a lock for the Hall, but it doesn't change the fact he has earned the honor.
I don't see how.
Nothing he did was Hall of Fame, until he just.. kept.. playing..
His durability is very impressive, that alone shouldn't put a guy in the Hall.
50th overall in points, in a sport where there's been over 7500 players. 1st in games played. Should definitely be worthy of being in the hall.
@@MMGJ10 Just kept playing.. Showing is dedication and love for hockey.
@@svandorst1 his points r inflated af, give any average player that many games and they will get 1000 points
@@dmacg5520 the average player will never have a 40 goal season either. The average player would also need the same durability to even play that many games.
BTW, I was reflecting over the weekend on the first time I saw Patrick on the ice (other than a handful of video highlights): at one of the Sharks open rookie camp scrimmages in September 1997, a few days after he'd turned 18. It was immediately obvious that he had an extra gear that no other Sharks prospect had ever shown. He didn't use it all that often during the scrimmage, but when he did, the other prospects might as well have been pylons. I think he had at least three or four breakaways or odd-man rushes.
I was taking notes on the players (for myself and others on a mailing list not affiliated with the team), and I think I wrote that if he was willing to use that blazing speed more consistently, he could be an amazing player. His speed reminded me a bit of Marcel Dionne, but Dionne was more about incredible bursts of acceleration than sustained speed: Patty had both.
Of course, there are so many other factors required to last for more than a cup of coffee in the NHL: great hands, excellent hockey sense, a willingness to put in the time and effort to reach and continue to perform at a high level, durability, etc. And I've seen a lot of rookies who initially demonstrated a great scoring touch...until NHL goalies figured them out. (For example, in only his sixth NHL game, Alexei Yegorov scored a hat trick for the Sharks, but those were the only goals in his 11-game NHL career.) Patrick showed he had all of the factors above, plus leadership, mentoring skills, and so much more.
I'm fortunate to have watched Marleau play at the Tank for so many years.
Carolina Hurricanes Legend Patrick Marleau
Really got to get over this "never won a cup" thing. It's the hockey hall of fame. Not the NHL, or Stanley cup HOF. He's in or there's no point having a hall anymore. He's automatically in the San Jose HOF.
I agree that winning a cup shouldn't guarantee entry, or that not winning one should exclude you, but he wasn't a Hall of Fame talent, just Hall of Fame durability.
Too me that's just not enough.
He's 346th in ppg avg.
No major awards.
No great two way play.
No great playoff prowess.
Never an elite player, or even one of the very best at his position.
Hall of Very Good
@@MMGJ10 To play this many games in the NHL over a long period shows what a good player he was both domestically and internationally. To exclude him based on stats such as you mention you would make an argument to remove such players as Kariya, Hawerchuk, Housley, Gartner and Neely. Guys who were consistently good over long periods or derailed by injury but who never won the trophys either.
I would however argue that the HOF should create a tiered system to elevate the true greats Gretzky etc above the very goods such as Marleau. It should also be more inclusive of players from outside the NHL as it seems to favour predominantly nhlers.
wow, that guy never missed any games! And 20+ goals per season! HOF for sure!
How many players have scored at least 16 goals every year for 20 years straight?
Marleau is a HOFer. Depending on who's on the ballot when he's eligible, may not be first ballot, but with the games played record, 1,111 points with one franchise, iron-man streak, top 50 in points, top 25 in goals, 2nd all-time in GWG, and was a decent defensive forward, he'll get in. He's also 16th all-time in playoff goals scored, and the Olympic golds should sway voters in that direction. The lack of individual hardware hurts, but the consistency of performance and reliability paired with his legacy with the Sharks golden age should outweigh all of that
people can argue over whether he’s a hall of famer, but he’ll always be one of the two best to ever wear teal for us sharks fans
500 goals tends to get a player in the Hall. Tkachuk is the guy with the most goals (538) who is eligible but not in. Marleau having 566 makes it a more solid case than say, Joe Mullen (who I do realize probably got in being the first American to top 500).
1997 draft geez, 25 years goes by fast.
I decided to cruise by the Shark Tank and see if I could find someone with an extra ticket (they were free for season ticket/ticket pack holders but you had to have a ticket to get in) and got lucky so I was able to be there live for his announcement.
Congratulations on an amazing career, Patty! I casually watched games beforehand but got really into hockey during the 2010 playoffs and have so many great memories of watching the teams lead by him, Jumbo, and Pavelski. One of my favorite memories was in the 2013 playoffs where he scored the overtime winner in game 4 to complete the sweep over the Canucks. While Jumbo will always be my favorite player, Mr. Shark is a close second. Enjoy your time with your family and I hope to see you eventually back in the Sharks organization. I will make sure to be there when your jersey goes up in the rafters (which was heavily implied at the press conference...Becher said he had to see next season's schedule before he'd say when the jersey would be retired).
As a Kings fan I'm very familiar with Marleau's exploits as he was a thorn in our sides for years. He was a very worthy adversary and I think he should be a HOF'er. Not in his first year but probably later on. If he'd been more dominant in the playoffs, maybe driving to a Cup then it'd be a no-brainer.
For few seasons he was league elite, great career and good amount of points on Playoffs. Yeah, he could go in.
Other Sharks guys maybe shined more at their peak and Jumbo is on other level. Marleau was solid.
He was at no point an elite player, or a top player
At the end of the day, the hall of fame is a museum. You can't tell the history of the game excluding the guy who played more games than anyone else
One of my all time fav players. Most games ever by an NHL player, 25th all time in goals, 50th all time in points, 4 gold medals and 1 silver. He isn't a 1st ballot Hall of Famer but he'll get in 100% without a doubt.
346th all time in ppg avg though.
He’s not even a lock for the hall of fame and far from a first ballot, give any average player that many games and they’ll get 1000 points his numbers r far from impressive and don’t give him a case for the hall of fame
I'm not sure Marleau is a HOF guy but I loved his work when he was a Leaf and always have had immense respect for his work and his manners. A great guy.
You didn’t say he also had a game winning goal against every team until Vegas was added.
Should definitely be in The Hall.
Watching Patrick as a Junior playing for the Seattle T-Birds was always a treat. We had great teams (Kamloops Blazers) in those years and Marleau was always a force to be reckoned with. I feel he had a great NHL career and a real ambassador for the game.
I really hope he and Jumbo make it in on the same ballot. Marleau had remarkable consistency over a long stretch, and did everything he could to make SJ a a winner.
Joe Thornton will definitely get into the Hall. If Marleau does, they will be the 2nd pair of players drafted 1-2 and both go into the Hall.
The first was Lafleur/Dionne.
I’m sure everyone agrees that Ovechkin/Malkin will be next.
One of my favourite players when I was growing up
The fact that he played more NHL games than anyone else should be enough to get him into the Hall of Fame. He made it to the NHL at an age that keeps most players in juniors, college or their home country until they're "ready". He stayed in the NHL long past the time most players retire. And from the beginning of his NHL career through to the end, he was an effective player.
If having a Stanley Cup ring is the deciding factor as to whether or not a player gets into the HOF, as opposed to the player's entire career, then when is Gilbert Dionne getting inducted?
I've watched the Sharks since '91, and this. just. makes. me. happy!
Imagine the times when people debate if the guy who has played most games all time should get into HOF :D
There is a debate to be made
That one factor alone isn’t what makes a hall of fame player. Of course longevity is a good thing but it’s certainly not like a slam dunk qualifier. I don’t know about Marleau . To me it could go either way. I see the argument for and also against him being inducted.
Then Keith Yandle next. For consecutive games played. Yandle was beyond brutal this year (and the year before with Florida) but Flyers still just kept playing him out of pity to break the "iron man" (lol) streak. Panthers even healthy scratched Yandle last year's playoffs where his "iron man" (lol) streak wouldn't count. When you do it like that, it gets embarrassing. There has to be some actual validity to the whole thing.
Doug Wilson must be in bad shape to miss the retirement of Marleau, hoping for the best.
I think he does. One of my favorite players of all time (or since I started watching hockey atleast :P)
You should do a video re-visiting the heavily scrutinized Erik Karlsson - norris, Stutzle trade. Definitely a trade that got better year by year. Would love to hear your opinion on it 👍have a wonderful day, thanks for the great videos
Good choice of player!
2 Sharks videos in the day it’s like Christmas
He is the greatest Shark of all-time and he was a fantastic player. I hope he gets in.
He's also 23rd all time in goals
After 1779 games so not really impressive
It is an interesting HOF debate - if his career was 200 games shorter, I would honestly say no. He's a classic "compiler" - an often good, rarely great player who adds up a lot of stats over a massive number of games played. But because of the fact that he has that games record and was at least a very good player, I would say he is HOF worthy
He was the first jersey I ever purchased
I don't give the amount of games played much merit for determining a HOF inductee. However a two-time gold medal winner, NHL captain for a decent stretch, few ppg seasons, etc. I think all of those things coupled together will keep him in the conversation. (A cup or some significant individual awards could have sealed it).
Only player to fill the whole board ❤
Hurricanes legend
Marleau should get into the HoF, especially since it's the Hockey Hall of Fame - not the NHL Hall of Fame. His games played in the NHL and international success should be enough.
Oddly enough, before the video started I thought “for sure HOF worthy”. But after seeing those numbers and lack of person & team hardware, his career doesn’t scream HOF…
Exactly. Hell even Jonathan Cheechoo scored 50 goals one year.
I've watched him his whole career. Average player, to good/ very good player, then average to below average player through his career.
He's 346th in ppg avg, but played a ton of games.
He's an outstanding human being and was a very good hockey player.
I just don't see him as being great.
1779 games scream HOF. Hell I don't care if he hadn't scored a single point!
@@johnj8069 ur dumb af then, playing a bunch of games on a below average team producing nothing, just to break a record isn’t impressive
He definitely gets in the hall, i just don't know how long he'll have to wait.
One of the most noted, durable long lasting players I’ve ever seen. Yes he is a hall of famer.
Where's the Hurricanes sticker? Carolina Hurricanes legend, they're for sure retiring his number
on the day Marleau retires, Seth Jarvis scores 2 in a playoff game. It's the circle of life!
His goal/point totals are HOF worthy. Games played is cherry on top.
I'm on the fence. Good player, long career, does he make the 5 or 10 rule? Was he one of the 10 best players in the league in at least 5 seasons? No. Was he one of the top-5 forwards in the league in at least 10 seasons? No. Lots of time getting top minutes but not top 10 scoring much, still should get in some day. Other guys are more deserving right now. Todd Gill played a long time at the highest level (NHL), Luke Richardson, so....
he has the hof in front of him his career behind him
i cant believe you have that many mini san jose magnets
Ah yes, Hurricanes legend Patrick Marleau
No doubt a hall of famer
I think that he should make it. For me playing that long in the NHL is "fame worthy" in it's self. Add in his points and his goals on top of the international medals and I think you have a HOF player for sure.
He defiantly wasn't the best player at anything given point. But I do think a Jack of all master of none kind of player who played almost 1800 games while still being an All-star and top end player in the league (at points in his career) should go in.
It is also not like he did nothing while he played 1800 games either. His shooting percentage is 13.1% the same as Iginla (and a lot of other HOF players). With 289 players in the hall at the moment it really is more a question of when does he get into the hall of fame not if his totals are hall of fame worthy Imo.
I think he should be. Idk about first ballot but he should be in
I'm biased because I'm a sharks fan, but I think he objectively deserves it
I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about the captaincy being stripped from him. I think he belongs in the Hall but he is just another on a long list of names of great players that simply were not winners.
Patrick Marleau was never a super-star, and still a hard working player who nea managed to win ALL major championship titles but the Stanley Cup....
- 23 NHL seasons, representing the San Jose Sharks, the Toronto Maple Leafs & the Pittsburgh Penguins = 1997-2022
- 2-time Olympic gold medalist (2010 & 2014)
- IIHF World championship goldmedalist (2003) + silver (2005)
- World Cup gold medalist (2004)
- All-time most played NHL season games leader.
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Retired NHL 500+ Goal-Scorers
Not In The Hockey Hall Of Fame
01. 566 - Patrick Marleau (Eligible in 2025)
02. 538 - Keith Tkachuk (Eligible since 2013)
03. 522 - Pat Verbeek (Eligible since 2005)
04. 515 - Pierre Turgeon (Eligible since 2010)
05. 513 - Jeremy Roenick (Eligible since 2012)
06. 503 - Peter Bondra (Eligible since 2010)
Canes Legend
Games played record makes him a lock IMO. That's just too impressive.
Of course international success should factor in. It's the hockey HOF,not NHL right? I think so,& it counts in basketball,so should in hockey also.
Slam dunk HOFer for me 100%
he will make it to the hof but it may take a couple of years perhaps him and joe at the same time....
He’s not the flashy Crosby or McDavid, but he holds a RECORD for the MOST games played
Forget the number of games played, 566 total goal should be enough to get him the Hall. Totally deserved. And If Lindros got in, I really don’t see how anybody could make a valid argument that Marleau shouldn’t be in.
253rd in goals per game doesn’t help but I think he should get in if he isn’t taking the spot from someone more deserving!
Eric Lindros basically defined a whole era of hockey. And I'm not even a big Lindros fan, but it's still true. GMs literally started panicking and drafting guys like Mike Rupp and Scott Parker in the 1st round because of Lindros. And on top of that he was an absolute elite player through his peak who delivered by winning the Hart Trophy and dragging his team to the Stanley Cup Finals.
Comparing Lindros and Marleau is weird. When Marleau made the SCFs he scored as many points in those playoffs as Joel Ward on a team powered by Burns, Couture, Pavelski and Thornton.
Marleau's 2nd best season per all-star voting on LW in 2011 is on par with Patrick Sharp. We're talking night and day here regarding impact, with Lindros and Marleau. Completely different stratospheres of players.
2019 pittsburgh
500 goals & 1000 pionts = A hall of famer as far as I'm concerned. Patrick Marleau should get in.
1000 points and 500 goals after 1779 games isn’t impressive at all,
Patrick Marleau had 15 80+ games played seasons
Patrick Marleau had 0 50+ goals seasons
Patrick Marleau had 1 50+ assists seasons
Patrick Marleau had 11 50+ points seasons
Patrick Marleau had 7 60+ points seasons
Patrick Marleau had 6 70+ points seasons
Patrick Marleau had 2 80+ points seasons
His record has an asterisk if jagr would t have went to the khl it wouldn’t be close
I don’t like him, but I think he should be in the HOF. More so than numbers because of longevity I think what hurts him is was he ever the best player on his team? Between Nolan, Thornton, Pavelski and Burns it’s hard to say he was
The fact that Jarvis ended up being that first round pick makes the trade look really rough.
I can see him being first ballot because of the modern standard compared to previous but should he? No not first time should get in but not first time there’s far too many more deserving candidates
Robin to Thornton's Batman
HOF, no doubt. He was my team's nemesis for a few years.
I think he goes in with Joe whenever he decides to retire
Marleau played for pittsburgh