Everything dies, that's not the point, Classic cars actually live longer because they have simpler parts, modern cars have a thousand things that can go wrong
I always found that late 90's and early 2000's cars are the sweet spot when it comes to ownership. They're safe, they're cheap, easy to manage and depending on brand/model you got tons of spare parts. If something break you can google how to fix it, if a lot of stuff breaks you can buy a spare part car for less than it costs to change the rubbers in a shop.
Yes. I hope he didn’t have any studs in the back pockets of his jeans. I won’t even drive my cars wearing jeans with those for fear of damaging the seats. Let alone sitting on the paintwork.
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance. We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
Yeah, see how this guy likes taking care of it, dailying it. He's experiencing driving it, but not living with it. I daily a classic car (old VW Bug) but that surely is a lot easier to take care of than an old Jaaag, parts are way cheaper, and I'm probably a bit insane. And even though I do that, I certainly don't recommend it for everyone.
Just to be pedantic but James May said he was over classic car ownership, not driving classic cars. Owning a classic is a major commitment of time and money for maintenance and storage. Driving one, as Mike does here, is as simple as borrowing or renting one and giving it back at the end. That's a completely different experience. After owning a couple of classic cars I can fully understand where James is coming from.
The only thing holding back electric cars now are range, and that's almost cured, and refueling/charging times that is still a major obstacle. Otherwise internal combustion will just be a novelty.
@@patwest1815 Yes, but electric cars have come a long way in a short amount of time. I think Tesla's on the right track with their semi. By all accounts it does not use a huge battery pack, but several smaller ones that can be recharged faster. This is only speculation, but their plug for the charger has 11 connections instead of the smaller number the cars have.
Depends on your definition of "old". If we're talking about a 50 year old like this Jag, for sure you need a second more modern everyday car cause most owners of a valuable classic car won't be daily driving it and possibly only taking it out on weekends.
@@eUK95 no one really, you just have to put up with the pain and pleasure !, if you see my picture, that’s a 73’ K10 Chevy , one of many cars and bikes I have restored .
@@badcampa2641 You've clearly never owned an old car! If you do basic home maintainence, pay attention to the dials and feeling while driving, they don't break down unless it's either driver error or an old (replaceable with new) part fails. Ice and freezing locks are not a major pain even when they happen. They don't happen with a garage!
@@ardie72 Don't crash then! Strange mentality. The last thing you want to do in a classic is crash it, just from a repair and maintainence point of view, let alone injury.
@@humakhan80 it's treated as disrespect. That's what he means. If it's your own car fair enough, but that obviously is someone else's pride and joy he was sitting on. And it's all about respect man.
My first car was a Triumph Herald which was 20 years old at the time I bought it from a friend’s mother. A lovely driving experience which I remember fondly. I also remember the times when the car stalled out because of blocked carburetor jets, the time the rusty chassis broke while I was driving down the M6, the lack of demisting and defrosting when setting out on a winter morning in Northumbria, the water coming into the passenger footwell through the rust holes in the floor. Not to mention no synchro in first, ineffective drum brakes and all the scuttle shake you could wish for. Classic cars like the e-type which have had £50,000 or more spent on restoration are not the experience that most of us can afford.
Most 'classic cars' were in their day flawed both in design and quality with rust being a terrible problem. We got fed up with them at the time. Modern cars are safer, MUCH quieter, full of creature comforts and look like new after many years of ownership.
@@SaneAsylum classic cars are great as a toy something to drive around in the weekend maybe do some vintage racing etc,But you must own atleast a relitivaly modern daily.
Old cars are genuinely terrible in every capacity. You drive them like they're made out of glass, randomly look on ebay for parts you don't need yet but know you will soon, spend half your time looking at rust that there's no repair panels for, recognise every single noise and rattle it makes and cringe when there's a new one, subconsciously plan your routes to avoid speed bumps, there's always a list of things in your head that need sorting out, some of which may appear impossible to actually do. They're unreliable, terrible in a crash, and use too much fuel. That's what mine's like anyway.
@@SampleTracks2224 I've owned a classic car I thought I would enjoy it I hated that thing. It's like living in a sandcastle. You have to keep constantly plugging holes and fixing the junker. When I was a kid I thought about having a real fast sports car I got to live it and it was far from The experience expected. As for that Jaguar I'm a mechanic and I tell anyone who will listen never buy a jaguar they are the worst car for reliability. I can't imagine one last thing 40 years they don't last three.
I drove May's old car (Ferrari 308) as a daily commuter car - perfectly doable, enjoyable and comfortable. If your pockets are deep, even the maintainence isn't a hassle - Ferrari still support their old cars. Other brands and models are a lot harder due to parts rarity and specialist garages required. I've driven 20 years and NEVER owned a modern car (and I hope to keep that record for the rest of my life). The most modern car I've had is from 1999, the newest is a 15-year-old Capri which I still have and is now 34!
I think there is one argument missing. I also love my old cars because I can fix them myself. They are all mechanical, parts can be refurbished or sometimes even build by your own. That's not really possible with modern cars and is something only someone with a smaller budget that fix it on their own can really appreciate. Additionally to that its the feeling of keeping something alive greater than yourself. Yes, my classic sportscar is not really a sportscar, but I love it for what it is. For the old times it throws me back to, a car even older than my parents. Driving in the most beautiful part of car history, getting the looks, appreciating its design. Of course I'm talking about stuff that you could get sick of so I understand your argument, but for now I just appreciate the time i have with my car and eventually it will not only be the car itself that will hook me in for a lifetime, but the memories I am planning to build with it.
I feel like the simplicity of maintenance is a double-edged sword here...they're easier to fix, but you have to fix them much more often. This is from a time period when many cars had five-digit odometers because they weren't expected to last much longer than 100k miles.
Ideally probably the 90s- early 2000's, fuel injection and ease of driving without a billion nanny systems. Nowadays you have to buy entire new control arms just because rubber bits dried out. They wanted to replace an axle because a tooth on abs system broke off. It's just a toothed ring with a magnet as a sensor, costs $5
@@TheBacontarian The reason that you can't buy just a bush from a dealer is because the car manufacturers buy in the entire control arm, or other assemblies, from their suppliers. If you can find out who supplies the car manufacturer you might be able to source components from them, unless the car manufacturer has a clause on the contract to prevent them from doing so. It's all about building the car for as little money as possible.
@@GeorgeSPAMTindle no need to do any of that, the bushings are standard sizes you can press out easily with tool you can borrow from auto supply store, it just in last decade or so carmakers say you should change the entire arm.
Once you sit on a car your words become meaningless as your respect of cars, particularly older ones, is there for everyone to see and work out for themselves and they realise you have no passion or understanding of the hobby
And that's it, sums it up to a tee. It's all about the nostalgia. I work on modern cars for a living, but driving any of my classics for a long journey is tiring, but worth it, as that part of the enjoyment and experience of driving old technology
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance. We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
I have an “old” car. Not a classic car, just a rusty, 23 year old Fiesta and I absolutely LOVE it. It doesn’t beep at me constantly, it has proper windows, I can decide for myself if I want to use the lights, breaks, wipers, seatbelt and the car is blessedly silent about it. It’s easy and most of all cheap to repair because it doesn’t have a million electronic bits that keep breaking. It’s enormous on the inside instead of bulky in all the wrong places, costs next to nothing in insurance and I’m dreading the day I have to give it up. I guess I would love a classic car. 😄
I drive a Daimler Majestic Major, it has a 4.5l V8 hemi, power steering, automatic gearbox, servo'd disc brakes all round and is large and comfortable and surprisingly fast. It is easy and pleasant to drive and cost me less than £1000. I wonder if James May can suggest a car of similar quality, capabilities and price that was made in the last 10 years. I was going to write this comment under James' original video but never quite got round to it.
Indeed a nice car and out of the ordinary. I was interested to read that it was designed by the same man that designed the Ariel square four motor cycle.
I see James' point of view. I myself was once talked out of ownership of a classic by a friend who had been there. The insurance is expensive, you need to store it safely, which meant a new garage or additional storage cost, hard to find parts, maintenance, worry, etc.... The cost goes far beyond the price of the car and the love I had for that beautiful car. Jay Leno has lots of money and a staff to maintain his cars, I don't. I didn't buy the car and I'm glad I didn't.
Rule No.1 .......... Never sit on the bonnet of an E-Type Jaguar in a pair of jeans!! .... You can only do this if your a model wearing a very short skirt or dress!
You're okay with the hassle and the pain and the inconvenience... ...because it's not something you'll ever have to deal with on a daily-driver basis. That'll quickly change if you ever have to deal with it every day... including traffic.
Again, as the presenter said, it depends on what you want from a car. In your case, you want a car to get you where you need or want to go as easily and undramatically as possible. That is not the case for everyone.
They belong in a museum. Classic cars can be pretty but the are generally unreliable, unsafe, terribly inefficient, they smell funny. That’s my short list.
@@thomashughes7768 No, they're dogshit. They're genuinely terrible films in every single regard short of the graphical effects. Writing, acting, editing, directing, everything is sub-standard at best.
Having owned an earlier 1962 gunmetal grey 3.8 s1 fhc etype with red leather for 19 years i can say that it was mostly a fantastic car but yes you have to be in the right mindset to drive these cars today. But i never had any problems with my mossbox you just learn to drive it and not rush it. Reading some of the messages I also never sat on my bonnet . If you are going to do that i suggest the bulkhead...
James actually has the most modern taste in cars out of the 3, I think the oldest car in his collection would be his 911 Carrera. And as James said once, that older cars are amazing to look at and terrible to drive and it's true. Old cars are more of an investment now for most than daily commuters. Also older cars require more of an engagement while driving and ur average motorist is not up for that commitment.
I’m not overly interested in old cars, there are stylish and contemporary car models in this age as well, people should move on. Cars are like sharks, if they don’t move on and update themselves, they will die.
For all the Nancy’s screaming about Mike sitting on the Bonnet, he’s sitting on the fender. The repaint is with modern compounds that are more than up to his mistreatment. The original paints were lacquers with clear coats, totally unforgiving and hideously toxic (although inarguably most beautiful
The problem with classic cars are the maintenance required to keep them in top condition. This applies to any car regardless of manufacturer, model or date of manufacturing. Many of the finer skills or tasks required to maintain them, was regarded as routine when working on them, although it was not listed in the workshop manual.
There's only 2 more disadvantages about a jaguar classic car and more classic cars. But don't get me wrong, I love them. 1. The jaguar E-Type has a drag coefficient of 0.44cd which is the same as a delivery van. Same with a classic Mercedes SL 300 it has a drag coefficient of 0.38cd the same as the 2020 land rover defender. 2. The final worst thing is insurance tax is high with pollution and fuel consumption.
Nostalgia and reality clash terribly when it comes to classic cars. They are rotten for reliable driving unless you don’t go anywhere. They also lack any modern safety equipment and design - so just pretend you are riding a motorcycle when you are driving a classic. Do you want to put your family in that kind of risk? I like classics for the occasional fun little cruise - but not for piling on the miles.
As an 1973 porsche 914 owner, this video is indeed true. Sometimes you want something that's analog and connected that have personality without the fancy gizmos
I have a 944S, and while it might JUST hang with my Fiesta ST on track the Porsche is the more tactile and connected thing. The ST is a hoot, but in terms of feeling everything through the seat of your pants it has nothing on the Porsche.
I think there's a lot of subjectivity to it as well - basically how appealing is it and how nostalgic are people over it. A 1985 Ford Mustang is much more likely to be regarded as a classic than a 1985 Honda Civic.
I wouldn’t pay 3 times more to watch a classic film than a decent modern film. If classic cars were the same price or less the argument could work. Most of the proper classic cars sold are now an investment opportunity. Not many people have the funds to buy one just because they want to enjoy it - unless they are very wealthy.
No, but when you misjudge how much to choke it, and how much extra fuel to give it, and your startup procedure turns into a 15 minute ordeal, yes... it becomes a complete nuisance.
My two least reliable cars were my most modern ones, they too can go wrong. Even brand new ones can, and will. I also just don't like the total dampened feel of a modern car. There's no comfort in the suspension, but they take everything away from you in terms of gearbox, steering and brake feel. I think honestly the best balance between reliable and enjoyable is in the eighties and nineties.
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance (not all the time.) We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
I owned one exactly like the one in the video (late series 1, opalescent silver grey, red interiors) for 20 years. I sorely miss it, I drove all over Europe with it and had the time of my life.
James May is right. An old Jag is fun for a weekend drive but is not an easy car to live with. It has virtually no safety features. There are modern cars that are vastly more efficient, more powerful, and frankly, more fun.
Classics are objectively bad, but emotionally you like them, like retro games. A restomod is the best you can get, but it's pretty expensive, so out of reach for most people. Overall classic cars have too many faults and errors to be usable as a real car (daily drivable, usable for any everyday scenario). Modern cars have their own faults, but over all the upsides outweigh the downsides of a modern car. But as I said, Restomods fix many issues, if they're done right.
"Overall classic cars have too many faults and errors to be usable as a real car.." I don't know that many would agree with that. The E-Type in this video has a choke and heavy steering and a difficult gearbox, but these aren't faults, they're normal characteristics of cars of this era. If you make allowances for them, you can daily-drive a classic - people used to daily these cars back when they were new. The reasons why you wouldn't do it today may include the car's value, and the fact that you'd put it at greater risk from rust and dings and wear and tear.
You obviously have no comprehension of the damage you can do by sitting on the fender like that. To fix the fender is one thing, but to match a metallic paint exactly is impossible. You would need to re-spray a large portion of the car just to blend it, but to make it perfect again you'd have to re-paint THE WHOLE CAR.
Classic cars are unreliable, slow, and expensive to repair, which is why resto mods became so popular: you can have modern performance with the look of an old vehicle
Never been so scared as when I rode in my friends E-Type. Track narrower than a Morris Minor and the screen inches from our nose. 70mph was enough for me. 'Oh, I had it up to 140, says he!'
James is probably at a time in his life where he just wants something that is comfortable, easy to get in and out of, works and does not demand attention in any way. He's probably not that into cars anymore.
@@boxenjoyerkona To have an interest in something is to pursue a dream of your future. Admitting to yourself that you have lost interest is difficult because it is to admit that is no longer the future. It might be that you achieved it, it is impossible or you don't like that future anymore. But either way you need a future.
Classic cars are wonderful from a history and nostalgia point of view. I can watch documentaries about them all day. They also look cool outside a pub garden on a summer's day. But in reality, you've got frequent maintenance, reliability issues, corrosion issues, lack of modern comforts, lack of safety features, noise levels, vibration, security, etc, etc. My father was a mechanic who could spend umpteen hours in a cold garage and be happy doing it. I just want to get the basics done as-quick-as-poss and start driving. But models from the 1990s-onwards allow you to more-or-less do that. I just hope that come 2030 it remains possible to drive fossil-burners without being severely punished by tax.
Owning a classic car you are reminded what a modern car could be. FUN. To have fun you didn't need to be a millionaire if modern cars had some of the fun elements of the classics.
And fair enough too. Ol' Cap Slow has his opinions and preferences. I do too. I guess you do as well. Your car, your choice. Me personally, I prefer 2 or 3 wheels but my car is very special to me too. My car, my choice. And don't you dare sit on it.
mainly more senior than middle aged,if you watch"chasing classic cars"(i do)the average age of owners is 70 plus,they buy into a social scene,cos they can afford to,and mix with people they always like to be around and most of the time,their partners get to gossip with others without a baseball cap in sight,unless trumps about.the cars are from their era and its nostalgia and without these people,no one in their right mind would use any of these timepieces as a "midnight 200 mile family emergency tool"they are custodians of motoring history and if it makes them happy thats ok,but the cars are best consigned to history,just waypoints to where we are today.
If you sat on my E-Type, you'd need an ambulance. That being said, if driving a classic is a "hassle" then it's not for you. I enjoy turning out fast laps in a modern track car, but it's more rewarding taking the E-Type through the same course- even though it can't compete against modern cars. It's like the difference between reading a book and seeing a movie, or a handwritten letter vs. a text message. You either get it or you don't. Excuse me while I go hug my four British classic cars... of which only two currently run. :)
I've owned cars as far back as the 1930s. Cars where death traps & that's a part of it. The other issue nobody talks about. They require near constant use. The materials used for gaskets and seals back then required them to be (wet) meaning in used. Once you dry them out with sitting. Well, hope you enjoy turning wrenches as much as you do driving
I'm only 18 and I have only ever owned classic cars, and I intend it to stay that way. I own 4 classic cars and a 50's motorcycle, and I will never buy anything newer than 1990
I won't easily buy anything newer than the 90's. There are a few 90's cars that I really like, but to be honest I prefer 70's or 80's. After the 90's though, the cars really went downhill as far as design and long term reliability (more things that can't be replaced in 20+ years) are concerned.
things break, old cars just require more maintenance than new ones. Plugs, points, adjusting the carbs, and on my old Fiat spider, doing the timing belt every 20,000 miles or 2 years.
Upsides it has a choke, no power steering, it squeaks and has charechter amazing sound, amazing performance, makes you smile you can fix it yourself, sense of satisfaction after shifting a gear Downsides, small mirrors
I just watched an old top gear where they were talking about an E type and a Aston Martin db5. They were talking about the romance of them, then they brought out a Honda Accord and raced them and the Honda won. Then they started talking bout shops that update them with modern suspensions etc. Old cars are garbage in comparison to modern cars, but so what 50 years from now no one will be paying 200,000 pounds for an accord.
I had more of a problem with how he states that older cars "Don't work in the modern era" Look, if it gets you from point A to point B, it works. But the thing that bothers me more is the idea that just because a car is older, means that it can't still be an amazing, yet comfortable experience. I own a 1993 Lexus SC400. Yup, it's got the 4 speed automatic. But after driving all sorts of newer, more powerful, more modern, and objectively better cars The car I own is the best one I've ever driven. Sure, it has mods, but if you truly love something, you'll always enhance it to be more of what you love. And that's what I feel the difference is between James and a genuine enthusiast is. James is a hobbyist, whereas we're enthusiasts buried deeper than just the facts, figures, and the idea of the car as it was sold. To an enthusiast- no car is a relic of time. They still exist, and some like the E-Type here, live just as they did when they born. They speak to us in a language beyond simple words- they speak through emotions, character, and a sense of familial love. A car isn't a simple piece of machinery, and it isn't bound to time, even if it's significant to us. Take the Honda Civic EK Hatchback. Objectively, that's an old car that's been replaced by the new, better civics like the FK8. Although, the FK8 lacks the culture, the history, all while the EK has that. I know I said a car isn't stuck in time, and then talked about an older car having history as a perk. But. These "old" cars aren't in that time any more, but that doesn't mean that the magic that made them special is gone. If anything, it's an encouragement to add to the legacy, to grow the story as you and your best friend take the roads every time you can- even if it is a simple trip to the local gas station so you can get some cheap snacks, or you're going to work. If you love cars, there can never be a car that's too old for you- just better matches.
" If you don't turn to look back at your car as you leave it. Then you are driving the wrong car." 44 years ago I asked my girlfriend to marry me while sitting in a 1969 MGB MK 2 roadster. She said yes ! I still have a 1969 MGB MK 2 and same girl, and since then I have acquired a 69 E type roadster. craig
like once Clarkson said, owning a classic car is like having a pet. You treat them well, give love and care until eventually they die
Everything dies, that's not the point, Classic cars actually live longer because they have simpler parts, modern cars have a thousand things that can go wrong
They don't die because they're worth emptying your bank account once again ....
@@topg2820 yes I agree
@@topg2820 you never had a classic car??? yes they are simpler but thir apparent simplicity came at a cost in modern days...
I always found that late 90's and early 2000's cars are the sweet spot when it comes to ownership. They're safe, they're cheap, easy to manage and depending on brand/model you got tons of spare parts. If something break you can google how to fix it, if a lot of stuff breaks you can buy a spare part car for less than it costs to change the rubbers in a shop.
I only clicked on the comments section to see all of the complaints about him sitting on the car. It didn’t disappoint 😂😂
I physically cringed as that shot appeared, if it were my car.... 😤😖😠
Ricks Garage Thick 1960’s metal. Soft cloth pants.
I died 😂😂😂
Did anyone else cringe when he sat on the bonnet with Jeans on?
Yes. I hope he didn’t have any studs in the back pockets of his jeans. I won’t even drive my cars wearing jeans with those for fear of damaging the seats. Let alone sitting on the paintwork.
Hardly any jeans have the metal studs now, when was the last time you bought a pair ! :)
@@grahamwalters7919 about a month ago. Without studs. Doesn’t mean I still don’t own some that do have them.
@@grahamwalters7919 1962.
@@grahamwalters7919 about 3 weeks ago. Jean's are beside the point. He sat on an E type bonnet. That deserves a custodial sentence
The enthusiasts will love you sitting on the car. HAHA
Yes. Never sit on any car especially with jeans. The rivets are basically sharp bits of metal.
I regularly sit on the hood of my dads car, luckily I wear mostly leggings.
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance. We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
Saw your comment before I even saw who was presenting the video and I knew it was mike, he makes it difficult to watch drivetribe
@@theun-knownmusician5468 get some more sleep, pal.
“... so I grabbed the keys to a Jaguar E-Type...” - I wish that’s a phrase I could say every day I want
This is the first comment I found that wasn’t about him sitting on the bonnet
I will also add there is a fundamental difference between OWNING a car rather than just having a go in one...
Yeah, see how this guy likes taking care of it, dailying it. He's experiencing driving it, but not living with it. I daily a classic car (old VW Bug) but that surely is a lot easier to take care of than an old Jaaag, parts are way cheaper, and I'm probably a bit insane. And even though I do that, I certainly don't recommend it for everyone.
Sitting on the bonnet of an E-Type is like you've punched the queen in the face then sat on her.
What's wrong with punching the queen in the face several times and sitting on her?
We buy them for how they make us feel.
@@tcaudiobooks737 I'm not personally against that idea but I think the Daily Mail might take a rather dim view of the situation.
Been there, done that, got the taser burns.
@@tcaudiobooks737 Travel back in time a bit. Do exactly what you described and see what happens. ;-)
Comments section went from: old cars are cool, but impractical (maybe) to “DON’T SIT ON THE JAG!” (Try hearing it in Hammond’s voice).
Stubborn enthusiasts can be some of the most obnoxious and irritating people ever. They're almost as bad as "influencers"
Especially when their agenda is to sell lottery tickets.
Just to be pedantic but James May said he was over classic car ownership, not driving classic cars. Owning a classic is a major commitment of time and money for maintenance and storage. Driving one, as Mike does here, is as simple as borrowing or renting one and giving it back at the end. That's a completely different experience.
After owning a couple of classic cars I can fully understand where James is coming from.
What’s he doing sitting on the wing? Show it some respect. It’s not a seat.
@Flying Spur It's a car that's not his with a paintjob worth more than he can probably afford to fix.
maybe no toadstools around with a rodrest?
The irony is Clarkson and Hammond prefer the older internal combustion engine era over the current electric era that May prefers.
I can understand the reasoning and the benefits and how great some electric cars are, but I’m also set in preferring combustion engines over electric.
that's because Hammond keeps crashing the new cars
The only thing holding back electric cars now are range, and that's almost cured, and refueling/charging times that is still a major obstacle. Otherwise internal combustion will just be a novelty.
@@patwest1815 Yes, but electric cars have come a long way in a short amount of time. I think Tesla's on the right track with their semi. By all accounts it does not use a huge battery pack, but several smaller ones that can be recharged faster. This is only speculation, but their plug for the charger has 11 connections instead of the smaller number the cars have.
@@sailingspark9748 and also, if the battery is punctured for some reason: czcams.com/video/Aps1fnFGWWc/video.html
Old Cars are great, as long as you have a modern car too 🤔
Depends on your definition of "old". If we're talking about a 50 year old like this Jag, for sure you need a second more modern everyday car cause most owners of a valuable classic car won't be daily driving it and possibly only taking it out on weekends.
Why? Who says a classic can't be used as a daily
@@eUK95 no one really, you just have to put up with the pain and pleasure !, if you see my picture, that’s a 73’ K10 Chevy , one of many cars and bikes I have restored .
Just have a fleet of classics, so you can use one of the others while parts for the broken one are sourced.
I daily my '84 2CV6 Charleston. Because its easier to replace the engine and gearbox than it is fixing those. So no worries unless you're in a hurry.
We buy them for how they make us feel.
Some people have an emotional attachment to a particular car from their yoof. While the rest of us don't get it.
I wanted to feel helplessness and disappointment. So I bought a 1967 Triumph GT6 😆
@@jamescaley9942 Any air-cooled 911 ever.
Agreed.
I drove my '69 Alfa this afternoon.
So many faults requiring attention.
Lovely but I wish I'd never started.
@@raypurchase801 hahaha yeah mate I hear ya
“It comes down to what you want from driving”
You can’t state it any better than that. Great video!
I want to breakdown daily and i want to scrape ice and fiddle with frozen doorlocks
@@badcampa2641 totally agree. Probably why modern classics are increasing in value at a much faster rate than 50/60s stuff.
i want to crash into another car at 60kmh and die instantly..
@@badcampa2641 You've clearly never owned an old car! If you do basic home maintainence, pay attention to the dials and feeling while driving, they don't break down unless it's either driver error or an old (replaceable with new) part fails. Ice and freezing locks are not a major pain even when they happen. They don't happen with a garage!
@@ardie72 Don't crash then! Strange mentality. The last thing you want to do in a classic is crash it, just from a repair and maintainence point of view, let alone injury.
You do not sit on classics :/
bro why. This car isn't original. It doesn't have original paint... If it had 60 year old paint... Yes. It should be preserved
Why wil u go to jail😂
@@brianhume4743 explain please ¯\(°_o)/¯
@@humakhan80 it's treated as disrespect. That's what he means.
If it's your own car fair enough, but that obviously is someone else's pride and joy he was sitting on.
And it's all about respect man.
Correct you do it on a classic .nothing better then on a warm bonnet ..
The two happiest days of owning a classic car are the day you buy it, and the day you sell it.
My first car was a Triumph Herald which was 20 years old at the time I bought it from a friend’s mother. A lovely driving experience which I remember fondly. I also remember the times when the car stalled out because of blocked carburetor jets, the time the rusty chassis broke while I was driving down the M6, the lack of demisting and defrosting when setting out on a winter morning in Northumbria, the water coming into the passenger footwell through the rust holes in the floor. Not to mention no synchro in first, ineffective drum brakes and all the scuttle shake you could wish for. Classic cars like the e-type which have had £50,000 or more spent on restoration are not the experience that most of us can afford.
Most 'classic cars' were in their day flawed both in design and quality with rust being a terrible problem. We got fed up with them at the time. Modern cars are safer, MUCH
quieter, full of creature comforts and look like new after many years of ownership.
I'm sorry but I have not seen any car that looks like new after many years of ownership unless it was well looked after.
What a stunning e-type! I think old cars have more character than new ones.
You think they do because... they do
Old people too but that doesn't give me the hots for Estelle Harris! Nor the desire to own another "classic" car.
Definitely! Analog cars were art, now cars are just sterile technology...
@@SaneAsylum classic cars are great as a toy something to drive around in the weekend maybe do some vintage racing etc,But you must own atleast a relitivaly modern daily.
@@kev8943 Not worth the money nor upkeep.
Please dont sit on the car, my heart screams because of the paint hahaha
One has to pray his jeans don’t actually have the rivets
Old cars are genuinely terrible in every capacity. You drive them like they're made out of glass, randomly look on ebay for parts you don't need yet but know you will soon, spend half your time looking at rust that there's no repair panels for, recognise every single noise and rattle it makes and cringe when there's a new one, subconsciously plan your routes to avoid speed bumps, there's always a list of things in your head that need sorting out, some of which may appear impossible to actually do. They're unreliable, terrible in a crash, and use too much fuel.
That's what mine's like anyway.
DONT SIT ON THE CAR lol
hopefully he had assless chaps on
James May has never been incorrect when discussing cars. He’s absolutely spot on.
That’s your opinion. In my opinion he has.
TL:DR Cool experience, terrible daily driver -> May correct
Well, May correct *for May*. For others, they may not need a daily driver, so they can just have the experience.
@@SampleTracks2224 I've owned a classic car I thought I would enjoy it I hated that thing. It's like living in a sandcastle. You have to keep constantly plugging holes and fixing the junker. When I was a kid I thought about having a real fast sports car I got to live it and it was far from The experience expected. As for that Jaguar I'm a mechanic and I tell anyone who will listen never buy a jaguar they are the worst car for reliability. I can't imagine one last thing 40 years they don't last three.
I drove May's old car (Ferrari 308) as a daily commuter car - perfectly doable, enjoyable and comfortable. If your pockets are deep, even the maintainence isn't a hassle - Ferrari still support their old cars. Other brands and models are a lot harder due to parts rarity and specialist garages required. I've driven 20 years and NEVER owned a modern car (and I hope to keep that record for the rest of my life). The most modern car I've had is from 1999, the newest is a 15-year-old Capri which I still have and is now 34!
I'd rather daily drive something that I can enjoy, instead of struggling to not fall asleep.
@@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r Well this was rebuilt in 2018 so give it a year and maybe it will be in your shop.$$
Classic Cars are like classic watches. Beautiful pieces of engineering that you love to look at but are definitely waaay past their functioning prime.
Sorry but JM has really gone off the boil. Falling faster from the firmament than Mike Brewer who’s latest efforts are an instant “switch channel”.
I think there is one argument missing. I also love my old cars because I can fix them myself. They are all mechanical, parts can be refurbished or sometimes even build by your own. That's not really possible with modern cars and is something only someone with a smaller budget that fix it on their own can really appreciate.
Additionally to that its the feeling of keeping something alive greater than yourself. Yes, my classic sportscar is not really a sportscar, but I love it for what it is. For the old times it throws me back to, a car even older than my parents. Driving in the most beautiful part of car history, getting the looks, appreciating its design. Of course I'm talking about stuff that you could get sick of so I understand your argument, but for now I just appreciate the time i have with my car and eventually it will not only be the car itself that will hook me in for a lifetime, but the memories I am planning to build with it.
I feel like the simplicity of maintenance is a double-edged sword here...they're easier to fix, but you have to fix them much more often. This is from a time period when many cars had five-digit odometers because they weren't expected to last much longer than 100k miles.
@@TheCallMeCrazy modern cars on the other hand are made to fail so they can sell you the next car
Ideally probably the 90s- early 2000's, fuel injection and ease of driving without a billion nanny systems. Nowadays you have to buy entire new control arms just because rubber bits dried out. They wanted to replace an axle because a tooth on abs system broke off. It's just a toothed ring with a magnet as a sensor, costs $5
@@TheBacontarian The reason that you can't buy just a bush from a dealer is because the car manufacturers buy in the entire control arm, or other assemblies, from their suppliers. If you can find out who supplies the car manufacturer you might be able to source components from them, unless the car manufacturer has a clause on the contract to prevent them from doing so. It's all about building the car for as little money as possible.
@@GeorgeSPAMTindle no need to do any of that, the bushings are standard sizes you can press out easily with tool you can borrow from auto supply store, it just in last decade or so carmakers say you should change the entire arm.
My goodness - I wouldn't let you within 50 miles of my Jaguar - please don't sit on the car!!!
Apparently he cannot shift properly either.
Once you sit on a car your words become meaningless as your respect of cars, particularly older ones, is there for everyone to see and work out for themselves and they realise you have no passion or understanding of the hobby
Generalizing classic cars by using an E Type is a bit like saying all new cars are similar to Mclaren Senna.
Classic cars. They are like your childhood hero.
And that's it, sums it up to a tee. It's all about the nostalgia. I work on modern cars for a living, but driving any of my classics for a long journey is tiring, but worth it, as that part of the enjoyment and experience of driving old technology
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance. We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
@Michael Gia Huy Nguyen Correct
I have an “old” car. Not a classic car, just a rusty, 23 year old Fiesta and I absolutely LOVE it. It doesn’t beep at me constantly, it has proper windows, I can decide for myself if I want to use the lights, breaks, wipers, seatbelt and the car is blessedly silent about it. It’s easy and most of all cheap to repair because it doesn’t have a million electronic bits that keep breaking. It’s enormous on the inside instead of bulky in all the wrong places, costs next to nothing in insurance and I’m dreading the day I have to give it up. I guess I would love a classic car. 😄
wow how disrespectful sitting on the car
It’s a car not a person
@@rabd9881 but a person did the work to make the car what it is today.
It is disrespecting the persons work that I have the issue with.
James May is right about everything. He's just annoying so Jeremy makes fun of him lol
"It's a bit like that Sainsbury's 'taste the difference' cheese."
I don't think he's annoying.
He's not, jeremy is annoying
@@captainzoll3303 Hang on I’m confused
@@captainzoll3303 Why are you on this programme?
Never sit on someone else’s car. Unless you like hospital food.
Nothing says 'well adjusted adult' like assaulting someone for leaning on your car
@@Courtesyflush52 nothing says 'well adjusted adult' like sitting on someone else's car
@@datsunalzheimer I'd argue unpromted assault is more immature than sitting on a car. One of them is impolite, the other is a felony
So this is an argument for classic cars and you drive an E-Type? Try a Morris Minor and then make this video again.
I drive a Daimler Majestic Major, it has a 4.5l V8 hemi, power steering, automatic gearbox, servo'd disc brakes all round and is large and comfortable and surprisingly fast. It is easy and pleasant to drive and cost me less than £1000. I wonder if James May can suggest a car of similar quality, capabilities and price that was made in the last 10 years.
I was going to write this comment under James' original video but never quite got round to it.
Indeed a nice car and out of the ordinary. I was interested to read that it was designed by the same man that designed the Ariel square four motor cycle.
@@Belfreyite Edward Turner.
4x the same exhaust sound in the intro, really??
I see James' point of view. I myself was once talked out of ownership of a classic by a friend who had been there. The insurance is expensive, you need to store it safely, which meant a new garage or additional storage cost, hard to find parts, maintenance, worry, etc.... The cost goes far beyond the price of the car and the love I had for that beautiful car. Jay Leno has lots of money and a staff to maintain his cars, I don't. I didn't buy the car and I'm glad I didn't.
Rule No.1 .......... Never sit on the bonnet of an E-Type Jaguar in a pair of jeans!! .... You can only do this if your a model wearing a very short skirt or dress!
You're okay with the hassle and the pain and the inconvenience...
...because it's not something you'll ever have to deal with on a daily-driver basis.
That'll quickly change if you ever have to deal with it every day... including traffic.
I daily drive a classic and traffic is fine and all
Again, as the presenter said, it depends on what you want from a car. In your case, you want a car to get you where you need or want to go as easily and undramatically as possible. That is not the case for everyone.
They belong in a museum. Classic cars can be pretty but the are generally unreliable, unsafe, terribly inefficient, they smell funny. That’s my short list.
No, Disney Wars is not enjoyable. Real Star Wars is timeless.
I dont like either
True, the prequels are timeless classics :v
The classic are timeless but the new ones are amazing films,you can't deny that. People who prefer the 4,5 and 6 to the new ones live a sad life
@@thomashughes7768 No, they're dogshit. They're genuinely terrible films in every single regard short of the graphical effects. Writing, acting, editing, directing, everything is sub-standard at best.
@@MrBlueBurd0451 I didn't know what you've been watching but the Graphics are incredible, I suggest watching it at a resolution higher than 140p
Having owned an earlier 1962 gunmetal grey 3.8 s1 fhc etype with red leather for 19 years i can say that it was mostly a fantastic car but yes you have to be in the right mindset to drive these cars today. But i never had any problems with my mossbox you just learn to drive it and not rush it. Reading some of the messages I also never sat on my bonnet . If you are going to do that i suggest the bulkhead...
James actually has the most modern taste in cars out of the 3, I think the oldest car in his collection would be his 911 Carrera.
And as James said once, that older cars are amazing to look at and terrible to drive and it's true. Old cars are more of an investment now for most than daily commuters. Also older cars require more of an engagement while driving and ur average motorist is not up for that commitment.
Old cars are better to drive you clown
I’m not overly interested in old cars, there are stylish and contemporary car models in this age as well, people should move on. Cars are like sharks, if they don’t move on and update themselves, they will die.
Unless that's your Jag, stop sitting on the bonnet with effing jeans on!... Metal rivets don't mix well with paintwork.
For all the Nancy’s screaming about Mike sitting on the Bonnet, he’s sitting on the fender. The repaint is with modern compounds that are more than up to his mistreatment. The original paints were lacquers with clear coats, totally unforgiving and hideously toxic (although inarguably most beautiful
By bringing up the modern Star Wars movies you've convinced me that classic cars are better than modern ones.
The problem with classic cars are the maintenance required to keep them in top condition. This applies to any car regardless of manufacturer, model or date of manufacturing. Many of the finer skills or tasks required to maintain them, was regarded as routine when working on them, although it was not listed in the workshop manual.
Old cars are beautiful to look at, but are generally not great to drive.
not a great chair either
There's a way to move forward without throwing away what made the classic cars so well loved. The spirit of driving is most important.
Yea, it's called Resto-Mod
Sitting on a classic with jeans.
A big no no
There's only 2 more disadvantages about a jaguar classic car and more classic cars. But don't get me wrong, I love them.
1. The jaguar E-Type has a drag coefficient of 0.44cd which is the same as a delivery van. Same with a classic Mercedes SL 300 it has a drag coefficient of 0.38cd the same as the 2020 land rover defender.
2. The final worst thing is insurance tax is high with pollution and fuel consumption.
I see a new series of “Guess what I’m sitting on this week?”
Nostalgia and reality clash terribly when it comes to classic cars. They are rotten for reliable driving unless you don’t go anywhere. They also lack any modern safety equipment and design - so just pretend you are riding a motorcycle when you are driving a classic. Do you want to put your family in that kind of risk? I like classics for the occasional fun little cruise - but not for piling on the miles.
As an 1973 porsche 914 owner, this video is indeed true. Sometimes you want something that's analog and connected that have personality without the fancy gizmos
Very nice!
I have a 944S, and while it might JUST hang with my Fiesta ST on track the Porsche is the more tactile and connected thing.
The ST is a hoot, but in terms of feeling everything through the seat of your pants it has nothing on the Porsche.
Does anyone else feel like the G on the car's Badges looks more like a C? So it says JACUAR instead of JAGUAR?
No, it says JAGUAR!
@@peterb.2183
1:28 It clearly says "JACUAR"
It's all about the font
How old does a car needs to be for it to be considered a “classic car”?
Any car from your youth and older is always how I viewed it. In my case that is late 70's and earlier.
Legally, in the US, a car can be designated as a Classic after 25 years from manufacture.
I think there's a lot of subjectivity to it as well - basically how appealing is it and how nostalgic are people over it. A 1985 Ford Mustang is much more likely to be regarded as a classic than a 1985 Honda Civic.
I am a simple man, I see James's name on the title I click
That's how this channel works.
@Ross Bourne to be honest with you, at this point there are none :(
@Ross Bourne welcome to CZcams comments ヾ(¯∇￣๑)
Want a spot of
"why is this in my recommendation"
or a spicy
"when bae says she's home alone"
I wouldn’t pay 3 times more to watch a classic film than a decent modern film. If classic cars were the same price or less the argument could work. Most of the proper classic cars sold are now an investment opportunity. Not many people have the funds to buy one just because they want to enjoy it - unless they are very wealthy.
Classic muscle cars are rather cheap. Saw a couple days ago someone who sold his Buick Skylark for around 20k.
Didn’t realise using a choke was a difficulty...is it too inconvenient to have an extra cable to operate?
No, but when you misjudge how much to choke it, and how much extra fuel to give it, and your startup procedure turns into a 15 minute ordeal, yes... it becomes a complete nuisance.
My two least reliable cars were my most modern ones, they too can go wrong. Even brand new ones can, and will.
I also just don't like the total dampened feel of a modern car. There's no comfort in the suspension, but they take everything away from you in terms of gearbox, steering and brake feel.
I think honestly the best balance between reliable and enjoyable is in the eighties and nineties.
You nailed it! 👍
Classic cars have personality, that’s why. Us owners don’t care about performance (not all the time.) We like having to care for cars. We’re all part of the car community and I respect other people’s opinion! Personally, I think some owners are over protective, but that’s their opinion!
Case in point the new land-rover pretender. Nice and expensive - and more unreliable than most expected (which is saying something!).
Once you've driven an Aston converted to electric, any classic petrol car is a tired old dinosaur.
I owned one exactly like the one in the video (late series 1, opalescent silver grey, red interiors) for 20 years. I sorely miss it, I drove all over Europe with it and had the time of my life.
Sitting on a bonnet of fully restored series one E-type. That's how you end your classic car journalistic career.
Some of these cars should comverted to EV to make it desirable to drive
James May is right. An old Jag is fun for a weekend drive but is not an easy car to live with. It has virtually no safety features. There are modern cars that are vastly more efficient, more powerful, and frankly, more fun.
Imagine comparing 2001 A Space Odyssey to Disney-era Star Wars.
Excuse me, can you get off the bonnet of that vehicle, please? I can see depreciation🤑 all over my screen!
Classics are objectively bad, but emotionally you like them, like retro games. A restomod is the best you can get, but it's pretty expensive, so out of reach for most people. Overall classic cars have too many faults and errors to be usable as a real car (daily drivable, usable for any everyday scenario). Modern cars have their own faults, but over all the upsides outweigh the downsides of a modern car. But as I said, Restomods fix many issues, if they're done right.
"Overall classic cars have too many faults and errors to be usable as a real car.." I don't know that many would agree with that. The E-Type in this video has a choke and heavy steering and a difficult gearbox, but these aren't faults, they're normal characteristics of cars of this era. If you make allowances for them, you can daily-drive a classic - people used to daily these cars back when they were new. The reasons why you wouldn't do it today may include the car's value, and the fact that you'd put it at greater risk from rust and dings and wear and tear.
You obviously have no comprehension of the damage you can do by sitting on the fender like that. To fix the fender is one thing, but to match a metallic paint exactly is impossible. You would need to re-spray a large portion of the car just to blend it, but to make it perfect again you'd have to re-paint THE WHOLE CAR.
He seems like a great guy but sitting on the car killed it
Personally, the older I get, the less I want a new car because they are heavy, artificial snorefest.
Classic cars are unreliable, slow, and expensive to repair, which is why resto mods became so popular: you can have modern performance with the look of an old vehicle
Never been so scared as when I rode in my friends E-Type. Track narrower than a Morris Minor and the screen inches from our nose. 70mph was enough for me. 'Oh, I had it up to 140, says he!'
James is probably at a time in his life where he just wants something that is comfortable, easy to get in and out of, works and does not demand attention in any way. He's probably not that into cars anymore.
@@boxenjoyerkona To have an interest in something is to pursue a dream of your future. Admitting to yourself that you have lost interest is difficult because it is to admit that is no longer the future. It might be that you achieved it, it is impossible or you don't like that future anymore. But either way you need a future.
Classic cars are wonderful from a history and nostalgia point of view. I can watch documentaries about them all day. They also look cool outside a pub garden on a summer's day. But in reality, you've got frequent maintenance, reliability issues, corrosion issues, lack of modern comforts, lack of safety features, noise levels, vibration, security, etc, etc. My father was a mechanic who could spend umpteen hours in a cold garage and be happy doing it. I just want to get the basics done as-quick-as-poss and start driving. But models from the 1990s-onwards allow you to more-or-less do that. I just hope that come 2030 it remains possible to drive fossil-burners without being severely punished by tax.
You sat on a XKE! And you are still in one piece
Owning a classic car you are reminded what a modern car could be. FUN. To have fun you didn't need to be a millionaire if modern cars had some of the fun elements of the classics.
Who cares what James May says.
Plenty of people are prepared to pay vast amounts of money for classic cars.
And fair enough too. Ol' Cap Slow has his opinions and preferences. I do too. I guess you do as well. Your car, your choice. Me personally, I prefer 2 or 3 wheels but my car is very special to me too. My car, my choice. And don't you dare sit on it.
mainly more senior than middle aged,if you watch"chasing classic cars"(i do)the average age of owners is 70 plus,they buy into a social scene,cos they can afford to,and mix with people they always like to be around and most of the time,their partners get to gossip with others without a baseball cap in sight,unless trumps about.the cars are from their era and its nostalgia and without these people,no one in their right mind would use any of these timepieces as a "midnight 200 mile family emergency tool"they are custodians of motoring history and if it makes them happy thats ok,but the cars are best consigned to history,just waypoints to where we are today.
If you sat on my E-Type, you'd need an ambulance. That being said, if driving a classic is a "hassle" then it's not for you. I enjoy turning out fast laps in a modern track car, but it's more rewarding taking the E-Type through the same course- even though it can't compete against modern cars. It's like the difference between reading a book and seeing a movie, or a handwritten letter vs. a text message. You either get it or you don't. Excuse me while I go hug my four British classic cars... of which only two currently run. :)
All I can think whilst watching this is ''get off the Car...!!!''....Ha !
Please don't sit on cars like that. Becides the possible damage, It's just disrespectful, especially with someone else's car.
"Lended"???? Do you mean it was "loaned"?
I've owned cars as far back as the 1930s. Cars where death traps & that's a part of it.
The other issue nobody talks about. They require near constant use. The materials used for gaskets and seals back then required them to be (wet) meaning in used. Once you dry them out with sitting. Well, hope you enjoy turning wrenches as much as you do driving
Old car with electric motors interest me me more, old looks with modern reliability and ease of use.
I agree with you there. I have thought of converting my fiat spider to electric.
I'm only 18 and I have only ever owned classic cars, and I intend it to stay that way. I own 4 classic cars and a 50's motorcycle, and I will never buy anything newer than 1990
I won't easily buy anything newer than the 90's. There are a few 90's cars that I really like, but to be honest I prefer 70's or 80's. After the 90's though, the cars really went downhill as far as design and long term reliability (more things that can't be replaced in 20+ years) are concerned.
@@johannkuhn5685 So true. There are some pretty neat 90s cars, but they really lost their zing in the 90s...
Did you ask the owners how often things break on it?
things break, old cars just require more maintenance than new ones. Plugs, points, adjusting the carbs, and on my old Fiat spider, doing the timing belt every 20,000 miles or 2 years.
Upsides it has a choke, no power steering, it squeaks and has charechter amazing sound, amazing performance, makes you smile you can fix it yourself, sense of satisfaction after shifting a gear
Downsides, small mirrors
3:15 You're sitting on someone's Jaguar.
Driving a restored classic one time is way different from owning a classic that needs to have the engine removed to repair the transmission.
Seating on the car hood was necessary?
I just watched an old top gear where they were talking about an E type and a Aston Martin db5. They were talking about the romance of them, then they brought out a Honda Accord and raced them and the Honda won. Then they started talking bout shops that update them with modern suspensions etc. Old cars are garbage in comparison to modern cars, but so what 50 years from now no one will be paying 200,000 pounds for an accord.
I have to thumbs down this video for sitting on the car.
I had more of a problem with how he states that older cars "Don't work in the modern era"
Look, if it gets you from point A to point B, it works.
But the thing that bothers me more is the idea that just because a car is older, means that it can't still be an amazing, yet comfortable experience.
I own a 1993 Lexus SC400.
Yup, it's got the 4 speed automatic.
But after driving all sorts of newer, more powerful, more modern, and objectively better cars
The car I own is the best one I've ever driven.
Sure, it has mods, but if you truly love something, you'll always enhance it to be more of what you love.
And that's what I feel the difference is between James and a genuine enthusiast is.
James is a hobbyist, whereas we're enthusiasts buried deeper than just the facts, figures, and the idea of the car as it was sold.
To an enthusiast- no car is a relic of time.
They still exist, and some like the E-Type here, live just as they did when they born.
They speak to us in a language beyond simple words- they speak through emotions, character, and a sense of familial love.
A car isn't a simple piece of machinery, and it isn't bound to time, even if it's significant to us.
Take the Honda Civic EK Hatchback.
Objectively, that's an old car that's been replaced by the new, better civics like the FK8.
Although, the FK8 lacks the culture, the history, all while the EK has that.
I know I said a car isn't stuck in time, and then talked about an older car having history as a perk. But.
These "old" cars aren't in that time any more, but that doesn't mean that the magic that made them special is gone.
If anything, it's an encouragement to add to the legacy, to grow the story as you and your best friend take the roads every time you can- even if it is a simple trip to the local gas station so you can get some cheap snacks, or you're going to work.
If you love cars, there can never be a car that's too old for you- just better matches.
I think James May bought the wrong classic, and that's why he doesn't like them. If he bought the right one, he'd understand them better.
" If you don't turn to look back at your car as you leave it. Then you are driving the wrong car."
44 years ago I asked my girlfriend to marry me while sitting in a 1969 MGB MK 2 roadster. She said yes ! I still have a 1969 MGB MK 2 and same girl, and since then I have acquired a 69 E type roadster.
craig
Your dead right. I always look back at my 58 chevy as I leave it. It was the same with my mk2 jag.
@@daveryall5919
Hi Dave
Best wishes
craig