Financial adviser here, cars are very very rarely an investment, yes, classics can go up in value, but after storage, repair, maintenance, restoration, parts, insurance, tax etc etc you rarely break even let alone make more money than if you’d just put the money in the markets over that time. Obviously this can happen but it’s rare, so don’t go into it to make money, go into it to buy a car you love and gives you enjoyment! Financial adviser with classic cars.
I’ve had 3 go up but I bought very well. A 1977 targa I bought in 1998 for £5600 is now worth £40000. A boxster 987.2 I purchased in 2022 for £7500 is £12000. My gemballa 700 cayenne I bought without paperwork but got it verified after I paid £37,000 in 2019 ; it’s now valued at £50,000 by Sothebys(although these don’t sell!).
My parents had a Rioja Red P38 4.0. After 205,000 miles it decided to blow its suspension compressor on the way to Manchester Airport, very loud. Drive back was not comfortable. I cried the day it went to the scrapyard, and I was 15. Genuinely lovely cars. P696 YVL RIP 🙏 he also had a Cougar too, which was fucking dire.
Great to see the 406 coupe mentioned. I have 7 of these v6 manuals in my collection and they are brilliant cars. I have sold two of these previously for £5000 plus so prices are definitely on the rise. Great looking, great to drive, great performance and bullet proof reliability. They also hold their own when parked next to my Ferraris. Great videos too keep up the good work. 👍
My list would be : Toyota Mr2 mk2 ( preferably a revision 3 turbo ) , Mini Cooper R53 John Cooper Works, Fiat Couoe Turbo, Renault Megane 225 Turbo. Renault Clio 172 or 182 , Mercedes SLK 171. VW Scirocco R.
The Audi 80! Story time, gather round. My grandparents had an Audi 80 convertible in that British racing green colour, LXI 8080 was the reg, they had it for a while and then drove it all the way down to their little holiday home in Cyprus. They kept it for a few years and sold it to a restaurant owner down the street for £2000. This was in the 90s/early 00s before I was born, and yet that same restaurant owner still talks about that car to this day. Hope that was interesting 😂
I lived in Cyprus '91-'95 and at that time all cars had 100% tax on them(so a car valued at £4000c would cost you £8000c, this is a car which would cost roughly £1000 in the UK)but I'm guessing that things have changed since it became an EU member
Biggest problem with all these cars shown especially the big engine models is TAX. The government doesn't want us to buy or drive them and VED will only get more and more expensive for these type of car's....In time they will scrap the 40 year classic rule
700 sheets for a range these days ....... Looking to spunk upto 10K on a v8 merc for fun days but because of this its trade plate it or tax only the weekends ill use it . That should never need to be like this .
With most big stuff, the road tax is the least of your worries! If you can’t find £700 to tax a car then buy an eco box, because you sure as hell can’t afford the running costs of an old classic. Sorry
@@leesimmons2632 meh, it is what it is mate, not the end of the world. If you’re moaning about it, but something else. Classics in general are a money pit end of, you have to pay to play. I don’t moan when I fill my classic Range Rover up that does 12 to the gallon, after spending double what it’s worth on a restoration, I don’t moan because I love it and that’s the price of the enjoyment I get from it.
Porsche Boxter 986 - the original one. Still cheap, prices rising and IMS bearing issues now accepted as not being a problem for over 90% of cars. Great engine, handling and looks.
If there is ever a car you won’t lose money on and is definitely a classic, it’s a Honda S2000, granted you won’t find a decent one for less than 10K anymore but a brilliant iconic car.
There was a 2000/01 Range Rover P38 Holland and Holland left abandoned in my local supermarket car park. The car was sitting there for 3/4 months before the tax ran out. Eventually the DVLA clamped it and a few weeks later it's been lifted. It's now sitting in the local compound and it'll either be scrapped or if they have sense it'll goto auction. It even had the original drinks cabinet in the boot
The 406 Coupé is a real beauty and definitely a future classic. I'd go for the first generation TT roadster instead of the 80 Cabriolet, they are more iconic and might rise in value quicker. The E-Class convertible is already no longer a cheap modern classic. I wish I could buy a 944 that cheap here in Germany, that would be my first choice.
I have a big soft spot for the 406 Coupe. The thing about the Celica is that it was launched in 1999, which is amazing given how sharp it still looks. The engine is apparently built by Yamaha, so it's actually a four-wheel motorcycle, and it apparently loves to rev. The 944 has come down a lot, they were north of £5k for a project and at least £10+k for a nice one not too long ago
For a couple of left field classics, how about an Alfa Romeo 166, or even a 156 GTA. I like the idea of a Saab though, now a classic design and very well engineered.
The Audi 80 convertible was indeed owned by Princess Diana. I know this as I pulled up alongside her in a navy blue one near Earls Court. 30 years later, I’m so glad I resisted the urge to wave and smile! Classy lady in a classy car.
I've owned 3 cars on your list but my favourite was the 406 coupe 3l V6. Still wish I hadn't sold it. Comfortable, quite quick and a beautiful thing. And notably, very reliable for a French car. Had it from new for 16 years without an issue.
I had one. Sadly, I had to change to a company car, but at least it was a Citroen Xantia, that was a fantastic car, but nowhere on the looks beautiful as a 406 Coupé. I think the Xantia is a very undervalued car. One of the best gearboxes prior to the DSG boxes.
Thumbs up for the Peugeot 406 Coupe! I had one for 17yrs and only had to sell it because I needed rear doors and it wasn't ULEZ compliant. The interior was a bit dated, but it was painfully beautiful outside! I ended up getting a Audi A5 sportback (b9) which has the coupe lines but is more practical.
For the 406 Coupe, there's also a 2.2 Petrol. The line up was 2.0 Petrol, 2.2 Petrol, 2.2 HDI and 3.0L V6 Petrol (in 2 separate guises, the later model was handed to Porsche to 'tweak' resulting in an increase from 194bhp > 210bhp). Regardless of the engine, they are indeed beautiful and comfortable cars.
Absolutely agree. Was going to say that. 2006-2009 as the previous shape not so nice rear end and rusty. Beautiful lines and built so solid. V6 diesel a great engine (the OM642). Defo think this will get more and more desirable.
Really miss mine was a fun car that , had a few other Fords ..Xr2 Mk1 and 2, Mk4 Xr3i and Rs Turbo, St170 and it was a minter and still is (sold it 10 years ago and still local) i would buy that back if i could. Also "had" a very nice Z4 2.5iS that i swapped plus cash my way for the ST2 Focus...so many other cars i should of kept over the years but its been a fun ride
Matt, 158,000 people have watched you scrolling through Autotrader looking at classics. That shows the level of respect we have for your knowledge and your own personal passion and it shows the genuine affection we have for what you do. This channel is fantastic. Keep up the great videos.
Matt, you make me laugh sometimes, 'oh, I should just buy one'. Brilliant. The oil consuming cars reminds of a friend who would pull into the garage and say 'fill up the oil and check the fuel'.
Nice bit of fun, some long forgotten models, loved the Saab, very distinctive design for both the 900 and 93. As the old saying goes, its fine buying the car, you have to run it and there is the problem with a lot of the choices. Top end stuff will need specialist or dealer maintenance and paperwork to keep it's provenance and to protect the future selling price. Then there's the UK road tax system.......
Try to look for 924S, ie post 1986 models with Porsche 2.5l engine (same as in early 944). They are generally cheaper, but offer the same experience. However, they are also going up in price slowly.
Had a 406c for 5 years. Great car to be honest. Done about 30k miles with it. 2.0 petrol. So comfortable for long trips. Nightmare to find body parts on the other hand.
@@sportshatch I certainly have, I had a 240 GLT estate for a few years and it certainly had traditional volvo qualities (not a sports car) Boxy but good as Dudley Moore said in that film
Glad to see e85 BMW Z4 on the list. I have 3.0Si in a great spec (manual, heated sports seats, xenons, cruise etc.). The winning formula of great naturally aspirated engine, soft (not folding hard) top, manual not auto. Enough comfort and safety features to make it modern, but still simple and fairly light. Boot takes more stuff than you’d think. Doesn’t drive quite as well as a Boxster but is half the price and that straight six sounds glorious!
Some lovely cars her Matt, no XJ I notice? :( I only have space for one car, so I'm still knocking about in my 06 Jag XJ Sovereign. I'd love to pop it in a garage and keep it pristine but that will have to wait til I win the lotto. Even then I think I'd have to buy a low mileage XJ to keep in a garage and just drive my high mileage one til they get taxed off the road. Nothing drives like my Jag.
Agreed. 2004-08 x350 sovereign. All aluminium so no rust although they can corrode in time. Also got to have good history. Pay about £5000-7000. I have been through 4 XJ’s 3 XF’s next was an F Pace now on an EPace. Just love the older Jaguar.
The X300 models are well worth buying now as well. Only just emerging from their banger years though, so be careful, but quite possibly the last 'real Jag due to it's styling, straight 6 engines and ride quality.
An interesting list. I like the Z4 idea : the 3.0 is a great engine, but the coupe is even more special and rare, but pricier. The Cougar definitely deserves respect : it's genuinely so much car for the money, and a 25 year Ford that mostly hasn't disintegrated. I saved one 3 years ago and it wasn't a difficult car to rejuvenate after 8 years laid up. However, the model was never a big deal at the time, so I doubt many will lust after them now.
I've owned a full spec 728i and i regret selling that car, unfortunately needed the money at the time. But consider the e38 as an investments and you will lose all your money 3x. Parts are NOT cheap, bushes and links are extremely expensive, engine drinks oil and needs a lot of care as all vanos from the time, electronics after 10 years (mine was at the time of seeling it) were already glitchy and needed attention, and mpg is ... well horrid 😅 that being said, i am currently looking into buying another one because it was the best all around car i ever had. Comfort spec seats are unmatched even by new 7 series, engine is quiet, it is lovely on the bends and while you do feel the need for at least 100 more hp, it doesn't push you to drive it hard to enjoy it, it is chill and relaxed
matt i sold my granada 2.8 ghia x then bought the blue 406 coupe in the add that was mine before i got my E38 728i .guy worsley.My next move is 1999 Audi A8 2.8 in green Ronin car .ive not had a modern car in the last 15 years .
Fiat 20V Turbo Coupe? Volvo S60R? Focus ST500? All sub 10k. Must say do really fancy a 944, great looking classic! Great video Matt, think it’s a good place to put your money at the moment as wouldn’t trust banks or govt! Practical classic videos would be great 👍
The list: Peugot 406 BMW 728 Audi 80 convertible BMW Z4 Toyota Celica (my personal favorite from the list) Mercedes E-Class Convertible Land Rover Range Rover P38 Four Cougar Saab 900 Convertible / 9-3 Porsche 944
Thanks for another awesome classics video! I own a 1990 Saab 900 3door hatchback. Absolutely love the car. Built as a tank, sounds great, fun to drive, unique recognisable silhouette, huge boot, so plenty practical, and overall a super cool classic in my opinion.
I bought a 2005 Celica last month and I'm really enjoying it. A lot of these have been very questionably modified but I managed to find a well maintained and unmodified example with no rust. I had to pay a bit more for it but I think it was worth it.
Have owned few and driven a number of Saabs over the years. The scuttle shake on the convertibles is like driving in a pram, so ride quality is poor comfirtable seats help but ,, . Mx5 and Honda 2000 would be my choice .
Im not sure why people like to buy old cars that where never good even at the time thinking there now because there old good when the cars they where worse then at the time also still exist 🤔. Regards these cars when they go up they may go up a bit there however going to cost alot to keep working so ur profit will be 0 even if they double in price. Just need to look at 80s or 90s mediocre cars there still not worth much especially when u pay to drive into towns now
I have no idea why a top gear type show havnt come knocking you have a good personality very informative funny down to earth should have ur own show mate
Found your channel/vids a month ago and I have become a fan of your content. I think because we have the same taste in cars. I have a P38A 4.6L V8 and just bought a 2012 Supercharged 5.0L V8 Land Rover…haven’t taken ownership of the 2012 as of yet. Yes, those wheels are definitely Hurricanes on the P38 you looked at. I also have the Epsom green one. Have put a LOT of money into mine getting it all sorted.
Another interesting video & I endorse the financial adviser on cars in general not being true investments. This is not the reason I wished to comment however. As a buyer for Land Rover Parts for 10 years spent between Unipart & Land Rover under Ford I witnessed the demand figures for the P38A spares. The feedback from dealers was frightening and what kept customers coming back was they simply loved the product. One lady I remember being told had been back to the dealer 21 times in the first year of ownership! I visited many suppliers. Two key points from those supplier interactions. The rear hatch leaks and getting supplies was a horror story since many failed in Solihull's final inspection wet test. Second and much more serious and also a consideration if damp gets in is the control module that is situated under the driver's seat. Parts are limited ( the chip within it ) and if a substitute is chosen (2nd hand ) it has to be coded to the vehicle. One reason I run a 1974 Classic two door. Plus it doesn't tell me stuff like 'put your seat belt on' which incidentally I do!!
Consider the MGF/MGTF. They can be had for nothing, parts are plentiful since they sold tons of them and they are the last of the line of MG roadsters. Only thing you have to watch out for is rust and head gasket issues and I'd go for the TF if you can since it looks sharper and you don't have to worry about the hydragas suspension.
I very nearly bought a 406, it had a beautiful red leather interior. It was a V6 and petrol consumption was abysmal and as an everyday drive it was just not worth it. Now I'm retired I'd love it!
Whilst I have a nearly new x5 30d, my 17 year old BMW 530d still puts a smile on my face on the occasions I drive it. It isn’t worth much so I kept it for enjoying on the open roads 😊
The issue with alot of these cars in London is the ULEZ thats why i would probably go for a X350 Jag or X150 XK, they are not "classic cars" but in my opinion they are worth buying
Saab 95 Aero. Mine was tweaked a bit, (275 bhp, Eibach progressive springs & Bilstein shocks) Fast, comfortable car, excellent handling and surprisingly economical on a run! Only sold it because her indoors won’t drive manual!😡 Pick up a 1st (best!) Generation now before they all disappear….
I think you’re spot on with the P38. I think maximum returns would come with any of the limited edition models, such as the Westminster, H&H, anniversary model. I’ve no doubt the single UK Linley model is worth a pretty penny. I think another to make this list would be an S2000, slightly over budget, but will hold money well.
Hi Matt My Classic choice is Jaguar S type 2006 Diesel automatic I have owned it for 18months with no issues.I took your advice and have done a gearbox service rear axle service and a timing belt. i have had no faults and it runs like clockwork it has just turned 70,000 miles. It has full service history and it cost me £4000. An absolute bargain Insurance is cheap £336.00 I tax the car for 6 months a year at a cost of £228.25. I get between 30 and 40 mpg dependent on the journey. A fabulous car the best Jaguar I have owned, I have owned an early E type flat floor a 3.8MK 2, Several XJ6 and Daimler 2.5 saloons. Best wishes Alan
The Cougar, which was available in the U.S. too, was based on the Ford Contour, which was based the Ford Mondeo (clear as mud?). I had a 1998 Ford Contour Sport with the 2.5 V6. It was a great car, and sporty indeed. Even Consumer Reports, which seldom gushes about cars, called it "a BMW for half the price."
A good low mileage Nissan 350Z in the launch colour Sunset Orange with just the right Nismo mods, would be a great investment. Oh hang on, there’s one just like that on my drive! Happy days 👍😀😎
I understand that spares on those old Porsches may be hard to come by. Dashboards (especially the surface under the windscreen... how do you call that...) tend to degrade and crack or break, and they are the first bits ripped out of any old car on scrap yards. They're nice cars and don't rust much, so they last long but are really let down by the "bottleneck parts" that do break and now command high prices. Being German, I'm really jealous of the prices for many of the cars you've shown. 10 k £ for a good Merc A124 or sub 5 £ k for a decent classic Saab 900 convertible are prices we only dream of... 😒
BMW E39 is an everyday classic. I have a 530d estate with 65k miles up; comfortable, practical, plenty of power. The saloons are more beautiful but not as practical. Prices are starting to rise so don’t delay……
There's so many you could add to this. Anything that's fast worth a ford badge. Saxo vtr/vts, clio 182, 1st gen audi s3, r53 mini cooper S, calibras, vectra gsi and supertourings. You really could fill a barn with it
All are at least 20 years old. I wouldn’t call them modern anymore. - how time flys! However. I don’t think there is a single new car (bar a few super cars) on sale at the moment that will be remembered as a classic in 20 years time.
I went to look at a modern 2 series, and a 4 series to please my family who wanted me to get something fairly new.. really wanted an E34 and liked the E39 on paper. After looking at a bunch of E34 project cars for 2-5k went to look at a local E38, more out of curiosity to see the ultimate era of 7 series rather than with an intention to buy.. obviously did.. It's pleasant to drive, de-stressing, a lot of nice car for not much, and is old enough to have semi-affordable tax.. Plus it stands up well if anyone grabs a lift, and most drivers don't seem to mess with me while in it, which is an extra super feature compared to the terrible driving I've seen while in other cars. A few of the last examples have adaptive cruise control but also have a bit more to go wrong under the bonnet facelift vs pre-facelift. I didn't buy it for any investment and will just keep doing high mileage.
Ford Cougar is based off a Mondeo mk1. Share alot of parts. 2.5 v6 is a Porsche designed motor. Available in different states of tune. St24 / St200. Celica has a Elephant in the room. Regarding the Yamaha head. They can grenade, if not looked / serviced properly.
I had a 94 Saab 900S which I loved, but it developed faults that even the Saab dealer could not rectify. The exhaust was raucous, even when newly fitted, and the suspension got rougher & rougher. I got the impression this was caused by the genuine Saab spares being made more shoddily. Scap man took it in 2009 with 145,000 miles.
Financial adviser here, cars are very very rarely an investment, yes, classics can go up in value, but after storage, repair, maintenance, restoration, parts, insurance, tax etc etc you rarely break even let alone make more money than if you’d just put the money in the markets over that time. Obviously this can happen but it’s rare, so don’t go into it to make money, go into it to buy a car you love and gives you enjoyment! Financial adviser with classic cars.
a sierra rs 500 ...half a million 😄😄24k new
Barely making any money on the markets either last 2.5 years!!
@@petersimpson7037A very (as he said) rare example.
I’ve had 3 go up but I bought very well. A 1977 targa I bought in 1998 for £5600 is now worth £40000. A boxster 987.2 I purchased in 2022 for £7500 is £12000. My gemballa 700 cayenne I bought without paperwork but got it verified after I paid £37,000 in 2019 ; it’s now valued at £50,000 by Sothebys(although these don’t sell!).
@@toyotahilux2 Standard and Poor 500 made 27.73% last year, 97.26% in last 5 years
Thanks to this channel I bought an 04 Z4 a couple of weeks ago. 78k on the clock Merlot red and 2.5l. Love it. Thanks Matt!
Nice work!
My parents had a Rioja Red P38 4.0. After 205,000 miles it decided to blow its suspension compressor on the way to Manchester Airport, very loud. Drive back was not comfortable.
I cried the day it went to the scrapyard, and I was 15. Genuinely lovely cars.
P696 YVL RIP 🙏
he also had a Cougar too, which was fucking dire.
Great to see the 406 coupe mentioned. I have 7 of these v6 manuals in my collection and they are brilliant cars. I have sold two of these previously for £5000 plus so prices are definitely on the rise. Great looking, great to drive, great performance and bullet proof reliability. They also hold their own when parked next to my Ferraris. Great videos too keep up the good work. 👍
That 944 in white looks stunning
Just remember
Don't "massively overspend !"
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Porsches, range rovers, BMWs and all that sort of stuff
Ford Puma? 1997-2002 model, of course. The 1.7 125bhp one, ideally. Fantastic looking little car 👌
Had a new Puma in 1998 - fantastic car and the ad campaign was incredible
Puma is cool
That 2.5 v6 is the mondeo ST24 engine. Absolutely loved owning this car was a great thing.
But if it was awful front wheel drive yuck I can not stand front wheel drive
My list would be : Toyota Mr2 mk2 ( preferably a revision 3 turbo ) , Mini Cooper R53 John Cooper Works, Fiat Couoe Turbo, Renault Megane 225 Turbo. Renault Clio 172 or 182 , Mercedes SLK 171. VW Scirocco R.
recently bought a 171 SLK, gorgeous thing
I had the Toyota Mr2 mk2 ( revision 3 turbo ) and Renault Clio 172 and would HIGHLY recommend either. Super fun cars!
The Audi 80! Story time, gather round. My grandparents had an Audi 80 convertible in that British racing green colour, LXI 8080 was the reg, they had it for a while and then drove it all the way down to their little holiday home in Cyprus. They kept it for a few years and sold it to a restaurant owner down the street for £2000. This was in the 90s/early 00s before I was born, and yet that same restaurant owner still talks about that car to this day.
Hope that was interesting 😂
I lived in Cyprus '91-'95 and at that time all cars had 100% tax on them(so a car valued at £4000c would cost you £8000c, this is a car which would cost roughly £1000 in the UK)but I'm guessing that things have changed since it became an EU member
I bought quite a few of these classics. Only problem is I'd sold them, too.
Same I was just thinking the same thing how much money have I wasted in UK 🇬🇧 and NZ on cars that I’ve since sold? 🙅🏻♂️
Car addicts anonymous, free phone number give them a call 😅😮😂
@@jusssy5078 But you can still buy them...
Same!!!! If I could go back and buy all the cars I sold at cost! I'd be living a life!
Biggest problem with all these cars shown especially the big engine models is TAX. The government doesn't want us to buy or drive them and VED will only get more and more expensive for these type of car's....In time they will scrap the 40 year classic rule
700 sheets for a range these days .......
Looking to spunk upto 10K on a v8 merc for fun days but because of this its trade plate it or tax only the weekends ill use it . That should never need to be like this .
It’s not a “classic” rule it’s know as “historic”
With most big stuff, the road tax is the least of your worries! If you can’t find £700 to tax a car then buy an eco box, because you sure as hell can’t afford the running costs of an old classic. Sorry
I can easily afford 700 sheets but why should I
@@leesimmons2632 meh, it is what it is mate, not the end of the world. If you’re moaning about it, but something else. Classics in general are a money pit end of, you have to pay to play. I don’t moan when I fill my classic Range Rover up that does 12 to the gallon, after spending double what it’s worth on a restoration, I don’t moan because I love it and that’s the price of the enjoyment I get from it.
Porsche Boxter 986 - the original one. Still cheap, prices rising and IMS bearing issues now accepted as not being a problem for over 90% of cars.
Great engine, handling and looks.
Ive had 3 986 s...cracking car and hold their money
I prefer the Porsche Boxster, more my cup of green tea.
Man... I bought a 944 26 years ago...I was 20!!! Still the most I've ever loved a car. (Side note paid £2600 for insurance in 1998) 😢
Ah.. Risky Business.....
I had one when I was 21 and my insurance was £1700 . Borrowed loads and took ages to pay back but loved the car . B944 DGL 👍
If there is ever a car you won’t lose money on and is definitely a classic, it’s a Honda S2000, granted you won’t find a decent one for less than 10K anymore but a brilliant iconic car.
They’re really rare to see on the road but oddly enough, I saw two within the space of 20 seconds in Western Supermare.
I was waiting for the S2000 to appear on this list, would top any of these options. Probably THE modern classic.
@@SS-uq6wv they only ever get used on those nice sunny days, I own one myself.
@@ooheaven1459 one of a kind, won’t be another like it again, only those who have driven one know, they are brilliant.
If you’re over 6ft you won’t get in one either 😂
There was a 2000/01 Range Rover P38 Holland and Holland left abandoned in my local supermarket car park. The car was sitting there for 3/4 months before the tax ran out. Eventually the DVLA clamped it and a few weeks later it's been lifted. It's now sitting in the local compound and it'll either be scrapped or if they have sense it'll goto auction. It even had the original drinks cabinet in the boot
The 406 Coupé is a real beauty and definitely a future classic. I'd go for the first generation TT roadster instead of the 80 Cabriolet, they are more iconic and might rise in value quicker. The E-Class convertible is already no longer a cheap modern classic. I wish I could buy a 944 that cheap here in Germany, that would be my first choice.
The MK2 TT is also worth a look. An original with no 'upgrading' is getting hard to find.
@@StateGiant796 Yeah, I give you that. Just in terms of raising values in the future I'm sure the first gen will be much better.
I have a big soft spot for the 406 Coupe. The thing about the Celica is that it was launched in 1999, which is amazing given how sharp it still looks. The engine is apparently built by Yamaha, so it's actually a four-wheel motorcycle, and it apparently loves to rev.
The 944 has come down a lot, they were north of £5k for a project and at least £10+k for a nice one not too long ago
I'm old enough to remember car journalists writing praises to 406 when it just came out, so I'm not awfuly surprised, and yes it looks good.
I think Autocar went as far as calling the 406 saloon 'the best car in the real world' when it was launched in '96.
I have an 07 z4 coupe 3.0si with the manual box - absolutley love it. had it 3 years and have no plans to sell it!
For a couple of left field classics, how about an Alfa Romeo 166, or even a 156 GTA. I like the idea of a Saab though, now a classic design and very well engineered.
The nicest looking Peugeot I’ve seen
I just burst out laughing when you said you quite like the P38 Range Rover, Matt. But don’t you like every series of Range Rover!
You've got talent, keep showcasing it
You have come in clutch. Thank you so much, I was actually thinking of selling older classic and earlier 2000 cars as a side hustle!
The Audi 80 convertible was indeed owned by Princess Diana. I know this as I pulled up alongside her in a navy blue one near Earls Court. 30 years later, I’m so glad I resisted the urge to wave and smile! Classy lady in a classy car.
I saw her in that down queensway
Was she wearing her seat belt?
Snap. I saw her in the very same car by the underground station in Ladbroke Grove!
I've owned 3 cars on your list but my favourite was the 406 coupe 3l V6. Still wish I hadn't sold it. Comfortable, quite quick and a beautiful thing. And notably, very reliable for a French car. Had it from new for 16 years without an issue.
I have one for sale if you want another? I have seven mint ones so can spare one!
I had one. Sadly, I had to change to a company car, but at least it was a Citroen Xantia, that was a fantastic car, but nowhere on the looks beautiful as a 406 Coupé. I think the Xantia is a very undervalued car. One of the best gearboxes prior to the DSG boxes.
Thumbs up for the Peugeot 406 Coupe! I had one for 17yrs and only had to sell it because I needed rear doors and it wasn't ULEZ compliant.
The interior was a bit dated, but it was painfully beautiful outside! I ended up getting a Audi A5 sportback (b9) which has the coupe lines but is more practical.
For the 406 Coupe, there's also a 2.2 Petrol. The line up was 2.0 Petrol, 2.2 Petrol, 2.2 HDI and 3.0L V6 Petrol (in 2 separate guises, the later model was handed to Porsche to 'tweak' resulting in an increase from 194bhp > 210bhp). Regardless of the engine, they are indeed beautiful and comfortable cars.
Merc clk. 209 chassis.
Choose the right engine
Absolutely agree. Was going to say that. 2006-2009 as the previous shape not so nice rear end and rusty. Beautiful lines and built so solid. V6 diesel a great engine (the OM642). Defo think this will get more and more desirable.
When talking about the late Saab convertible you've got to mention the prohibitive annual road tax 😱
WEF dominated government !
0:49 “at a quick glance” …if you’ve had too much to drink win😂😅
I have just bought a 53 plate e85 Z4 3 litre so glad to see it make the list! Only 31,000 miles but plan to use it as intended for a few years
Another to look at. Mk2 Focus ST, fast fords always have a following and are always a classic
I'm thinking of getting a MK1 focus st170 before they start sky rocketing. Great wee car. 😀
Really miss mine was a fun car that , had a few other Fords ..Xr2 Mk1 and 2, Mk4 Xr3i and Rs Turbo, St170 and it was a minter and still is (sold it 10 years ago and still local) i would buy that back if i could. Also "had" a very nice Z4 2.5iS that i swapped plus cash my way for the ST2 Focus...so many other cars i should of kept over the years but its been a fun ride
I’m wondering if my st150 will end up a classic, I think they’re still fairly common at the moment though
Matt, 158,000 people have watched you scrolling through Autotrader looking at classics. That shows the level of respect we have for your knowledge and your own personal passion and it shows the genuine affection we have for what you do. This channel is fantastic. Keep up the great videos.
You forgot Mazda!
The 323F, Xedos 6 and Xedos 9, MX-6 and MX-3 all deserve a place on this list too I reckon!
MX-3 now that is a rare completely forgotten bird! 1.8 litre V6?.
Love the 406 Coupe. Gorgeous car. Especially in V6 Manual.
Did you notice one photo of the blue 406 does not have a boot spoiler
Mk1 TT surely should be on there?!
Matt, you make me laugh sometimes, 'oh, I should just buy one'. Brilliant.
The oil consuming cars reminds of a friend who would pull into the garage and say 'fill up the oil and check the fuel'.
Nice bit of fun, some long forgotten models, loved the Saab, very distinctive design for both the 900 and 93. As the old saying goes, its fine buying the car, you have to run it and there is the problem with a lot of the choices. Top end stuff will need specialist or dealer maintenance and paperwork to keep it's provenance and to protect the future selling price. Then there's the UK road tax system.......
I would really like a 944, but prices in my country are just way too high. Cars in the UK are just so amazingly cheap.
Cheap can mean poorly maintained I’m afraid. So lots of spending after purchase.
Try to look for 924S, ie post 1986 models with Porsche 2.5l engine (same as in early 944). They are generally cheaper, but offer the same experience. However, they are also going up in price slowly.
Had a 406c for 5 years. Great car to be honest. Done about 30k miles with it. 2.0 petrol. So comfortable for long trips. Nightmare to find body parts on the other hand.
I really enjoyed this.
I suspect there will always be a good appetite for videos of "Practical Classics".
What about Volvo 240 estates from the 80's and 90's?
They are less than 5k and keep catching my eye. There is a pristine red on on my daily commute.
Any redblock Volvo !
A 240 on the channel would be great!
Oh my god. Have you ever driven one. Each to their own, but drive before you buy. You might be better putting a set of wheels on a canal boat.
@@sportshatch I certainly have, I had a 240 GLT estate for a few years and it certainly had traditional volvo qualities (not a sports car) Boxy but good as Dudley Moore said in that film
I'd also include the 700/900 series models.
Glad to see e85 BMW Z4 on the list. I have 3.0Si in a great spec (manual, heated sports seats, xenons, cruise etc.). The winning formula of great naturally aspirated engine, soft (not folding hard) top, manual not auto. Enough comfort and safety features to make it modern, but still simple and fairly light. Boot takes more stuff than you’d think. Doesn’t drive quite as well as a Boxster but is half the price and that straight six sounds glorious!
Some lovely cars her Matt, no XJ I notice? :( I only have space for one car, so I'm still knocking about in my 06 Jag XJ Sovereign. I'd love to pop it in a garage and keep it pristine but that will have to wait til I win the lotto. Even then I think I'd have to buy a low mileage XJ to keep in a garage and just drive my high mileage one til they get taxed off the road. Nothing drives like my Jag.
Agreed. 2004-08 x350 sovereign. All aluminium so no rust although they can corrode in time. Also got to have good history. Pay about £5000-7000. I have been through 4 XJ’s 3 XF’s next was an F Pace now on an EPace. Just love the older Jaguar.
The X300 models are well worth buying now as well. Only just emerging from their banger years though, so be careful, but quite possibly the last 'real Jag due to it's styling, straight 6 engines and ride quality.
Ooh a Celica - rev up your engines!
An interesting list. I like the Z4 idea : the 3.0 is a great engine, but the coupe is even more special and rare, but pricier. The Cougar definitely deserves respect : it's genuinely so much car for the money, and a 25 year Ford that mostly hasn't disintegrated. I saved one 3 years ago and it wasn't a difficult car to rejuvenate after 8 years laid up. However, the model was never a big deal at the time, so I doubt many will lust after them now.
I've owned a full spec 728i and i regret selling that car, unfortunately needed the money at the time. But consider the e38 as an investments and you will lose all your money 3x. Parts are NOT cheap, bushes and links are extremely expensive, engine drinks oil and needs a lot of care as all vanos from the time, electronics after 10 years (mine was at the time of seeling it) were already glitchy and needed attention, and mpg is ... well horrid 😅 that being said, i am currently looking into buying another one because it was the best all around car i ever had. Comfort spec seats are unmatched even by new 7 series, engine is quiet, it is lovely on the bends and while you do feel the need for at least 100 more hp, it doesn't push you to drive it hard to enjoy it, it is chill and relaxed
Good selection -I would add: DS 5 and Peugeot RCZ:-)
matt i sold my granada 2.8 ghia x then bought the blue 406 coupe in the add that was mine before i got my E38 728i .guy worsley.My next move is 1999 Audi A8 2.8 in green Ronin car .ive not had a modern car in the last 15 years .
The granny 2.8 ghia and 2.3 v6 cortina were beautiful cars
Fiat 20V Turbo Coupe? Volvo S60R? Focus ST500? All sub 10k.
Must say do really fancy a 944, great looking classic!
Great video Matt, think it’s a good place to put your money at the moment as wouldn’t trust banks or govt!
Practical classic videos would be great 👍
I'd add the Alfa 156 to the list.
Especially as a V6 manual.
Saab 9-3 Carlsson it's so rare its known as a unicorn
VW corrado g60. I looked a few years back they were 5/7k, now 10 for a bad one and only 2 on AT. they’ll be worth loads in 10-20 years
Agreed. It's surprising just how long it has taken all Corrado models to start increasing in value though.
I’ve been to one or two classic car rallies and I can’t remember ever seeing a Range Rover section in any of them 😂
If you get the COC from Land Rover for the 4.0 Bosch and send it to TFL then it's ULEZ compliant which is a bonus. None of the other P38's comply.
E46 straight six lovely
The list:
Peugot 406
BMW 728
Audi 80 convertible
BMW Z4
Toyota Celica (my personal favorite from the list)
Mercedes E-Class Convertible
Land Rover Range Rover P38
Four Cougar
Saab 900 Convertible / 9-3
Porsche 944
Thanks for another awesome classics video! I own a 1990 Saab 900 3door hatchback. Absolutely love the car. Built as a tank, sounds great, fun to drive, unique recognisable silhouette, huge boot, so plenty practical, and overall a super cool classic in my opinion.
I bought a 2005 Celica last month and I'm really enjoying it. A lot of these have been very questionably modified but I managed to find a well maintained and unmodified example with no rust. I had to pay a bit more for it but I think it was worth it.
Have owned few and driven a number of Saabs over the years. The scuttle shake on the convertibles is like driving in a pram, so ride quality is poor comfirtable seats help but ,, . Mx5 and Honda 2000 would be my choice .
How on earth are the Z4 so cheap in the UK, what the hell are those prices.
So many convertibles sold then not enough buyers now.
Im not sure why people like to buy old cars that where never good even at the time thinking there now because there old good when the cars they where worse then at the time also still exist 🤔. Regards these cars when they go up they may go up a bit there however going to cost alot to keep working so ur profit will be 0 even if they double in price. Just need to look at 80s or 90s mediocre cars there still not worth much especially when u pay to drive into towns now
I have no idea why a top gear type show havnt come knocking you have a good personality very informative funny down to earth should have ur own show mate
I appreciate that!
Found your channel/vids a month ago and I have become a fan of your content. I think because we have the same taste in cars. I have a P38A 4.6L V8 and just bought a 2012 Supercharged 5.0L V8 Land Rover…haven’t taken ownership of the 2012 as of yet.
Yes, those wheels are definitely Hurricanes on the P38 you looked at.
I also have the Epsom green one. Have put a LOT of money into mine getting it all sorted.
Another interesting video & I endorse the financial adviser on cars in general not being true investments. This is not the reason I wished to comment however. As a buyer for Land Rover Parts for 10 years spent between Unipart & Land Rover under Ford I witnessed the demand figures for the P38A spares. The feedback from dealers was frightening and what kept customers coming back was they simply loved the product. One lady I remember being told had been back to the dealer 21 times in the first year of ownership! I visited many suppliers. Two key points from those supplier interactions. The rear hatch leaks and getting supplies was a horror story since many failed in Solihull's final inspection wet test. Second and much more serious and also a consideration if damp gets in is the control module that is situated under the driver's seat. Parts are limited ( the chip within it ) and if a substitute is chosen (2nd hand ) it has to be coded to the vehicle. One reason I run a 1974 Classic two door. Plus it doesn't tell me stuff like 'put your seat belt on' which incidentally I do!!
Met your brother the other day and just blurted “oh, High Peak” what a an uncool moment before asking for directions 🤦♂️ ! Another great video 👍👍👍
With the merc I’d say the coupe is a better buy than a convertible but still good buy
Consider the MGF/MGTF. They can be had for nothing, parts are plentiful since they sold tons of them and they are the last of the line of MG roadsters. Only thing you have to watch out for is rust and head gasket issues and I'd go for the TF if you can since it looks sharper and you don't have to worry about the hydragas suspension.
I very nearly bought a 406, it had a beautiful red leather interior. It was a V6 and petrol consumption was abysmal and as an everyday drive it was just not worth it. Now I'm retired I'd love it!
Whilst I have a nearly new x5 30d, my 17 year old BMW 530d still puts a smile on my face on the occasions I drive it. It isn’t worth much so I kept it for enjoying on the open roads 😊
You're a car guy with two diesels? 😊
The issue with alot of these cars in London is the ULEZ thats why i would probably go for a X350 Jag or X150 XK, they are not "classic cars" but in my opinion they are worth buying
@@Sha-Ayo Some will be ULEZ compliant however.
Saab 95 Aero. Mine was tweaked a bit, (275 bhp, Eibach progressive springs & Bilstein shocks) Fast, comfortable car, excellent handling and surprisingly economical on a run! Only sold it because her indoors won’t drive manual!😡 Pick up a 1st (best!) Generation now before they all disappear….
I think you’re spot on with the P38. I think maximum returns would come with any of the limited edition models, such as the Westminster, H&H, anniversary model. I’ve no doubt the single UK Linley model is worth a pretty penny.
I think another to make this list would be an S2000, slightly over budget, but will hold money well.
Audi A2 definitely a future classic
Hi Matt My Classic choice is Jaguar S type 2006 Diesel automatic I have owned it for 18months with no issues.I took your advice and have done a gearbox service rear axle service and a timing belt. i have had no faults and it runs like clockwork it has just turned 70,000 miles. It has full service history and it cost me £4000. An absolute bargain Insurance is cheap £336.00 I tax the car for 6 months a year at a cost of £228.25. I get between 30 and 40 mpg dependent on the journey. A fabulous car the best Jaguar I have owned, I have owned an early E type flat floor a 3.8MK 2, Several XJ6 and Daimler 2.5 saloons. Best wishes Alan
Feeling chuffed knowing I own a P38! Kind of hit the jackpot as both Land Rover specialists said it’s the best one they’ve seen in a while.
The Cougar, which was available in the U.S. too, was based on the Ford Contour, which was based the Ford Mondeo (clear as mud?). I had a 1998 Ford Contour Sport with the 2.5 V6. It was a great car, and sporty indeed. Even Consumer Reports, which seldom gushes about cars, called it "a BMW for half the price."
I think you need to buy a big barn 😉👍
A good low mileage Nissan 350Z in the launch colour Sunset Orange with just the right Nismo mods, would be a great investment. Oh hang on, there’s one just like that on my drive! Happy days 👍😀😎
Celica great buy yet to rise in price and certainly due one
I understand that spares on those old Porsches may be hard to come by.
Dashboards (especially the surface under the windscreen... how do you call that...) tend to degrade and crack or break, and they are the first bits ripped out of any old car on scrap yards.
They're nice cars and don't rust much, so they last long but are really let down by the "bottleneck parts" that do break and now command high prices.
Being German, I'm really jealous of the prices for many of the cars you've shown.
10 k £ for a good Merc A124 or sub 5 £ k for a decent classic Saab 900 convertible are prices we only dream of... 😒
BMW E39 is an everyday classic. I have a 530d estate with 65k miles up; comfortable, practical, plenty of power. The saloons are more beautiful but not as practical. Prices are starting to rise so don’t delay……
Oh that red 944 ( hard top not the convertible) that's a hard one to ignore.
Thanks for this!
If I ever decide to replace my "sunshine" car, this would be my short list.
If only I didn’t have to worry about ULEZ 😢. Thank you Mr Khan
Audi 80 cab and coupe was one of my favourite cars
There's so many you could add to this. Anything that's fast worth a ford badge. Saxo vtr/vts, clio 182, 1st gen audi s3, r53 mini cooper S, calibras, vectra gsi and supertourings. You really could fill a barn with it
Matt your tastes are so much like. Mine❤ Richard
I have very fond memories of my E38.
All are at least 20 years old. I wouldn’t call them modern anymore. - how time flys!
However. I don’t think there is a single new car (bar a few super cars) on sale at the moment that will be remembered as a classic in 20 years time.
I thought that about 80s and 90s cars at the time... However the heavy reliance on computers in moderns is a problem...
I went to look at a modern 2 series, and a 4 series to please my family who wanted me to get something fairly new.. really wanted an E34 and liked the E39 on paper.
After looking at a bunch of E34 project cars for 2-5k went to look at a local E38, more out of curiosity to see the ultimate era of 7 series rather than with an intention to buy.. obviously did..
It's pleasant to drive, de-stressing, a lot of nice car for not much, and is old enough to have semi-affordable tax..
Plus it stands up well if anyone grabs a lift, and most drivers don't seem to mess with me while in it, which is an extra super feature compared to the terrible driving I've seen while in other cars.
A few of the last examples have adaptive cruise control but also have a bit more to go wrong under the bonnet facelift vs pre-facelift.
I didn't buy it for any investment and will just keep doing high mileage.
Love the Peugeot 406, more or less the same design as the Ferrari 456. Defo a classic in waiting.
The mercs (w series??) are absolutely bullet proof generally
Ford Cougar is based off a Mondeo mk1. Share alot of parts. 2.5 v6 is a Porsche designed motor. Available in different states of tune. St24 / St200.
Celica has a Elephant in the room. Regarding the Yamaha head. They can grenade, if not looked / serviced properly.
I had a 94 Saab 900S which I loved, but it developed faults that even the Saab dealer could not rectify. The exhaust was raucous, even when newly fitted, and the suspension got rougher & rougher. I got the impression this was caused by the genuine Saab spares being made more shoddily. Scap man took it in 2009 with 145,000 miles.
E46 msport coupe with any six cylinder engine. Road tax isn't cheap but they are so good looking and sound fabulous
That 2 grand BMW z4 is outrageously good purchase. A detail and that would be the dogs!!!! Spent more on a weekend away!!