Battle of Thermopylae - Spartans vs Persians
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- Western Democracy traces its roots to ancient Greece, a land of squabbling city-states. Amongst these warring city-states arose Athens, and a group of men who had a funny idea: citizens should get a say in who exactly got to rule them. Though initially imperfect in its implementation, that idea has since evolved to the free Democratic nations most of us live in today- but it could all have been lost to a single moment in history.
Hello and welcome to another episode of The Infographics Show- today we're taking a look at another of the Greatest Battles in History: the battle of Thermopylae
In 499 BC Greek cities which had been captured by the Persians in Asia Minor revolted against the brutal tyrants that had been placed to oversee them. In support of their conquered brethren, Athens and Eretria sent troops. Despite some major gains, several strategic mistakes cost the Greeks of Asia Minor their ultimate victory and the rebellion was put down.
With Asia Minor back in the fold of the Persian Empire, the Persian king Darius I vowed to punish Athens and Eretria for their involvement, and saw the rest of the free cities of Greece as a threat to his empire. In 492 BC he launched an invasion of Thrace and Macedon, then sent heralds to the remaining Greek city-states demanding they accept Persian rule. Seeking to save themselves, many agreed- with the notable exceptions of Athens and Sparta.
The Persian heralds in Athens were thrown into a pit, and their Spartan brethren followed suit by tossing theirs into a well. Enraged, Darius launched his invasion of mainland Greece and met with further success until an encounter against 10,000 Athenians in Marathon. Outnumbering the Greeks by 2.5 to 1, Darius saw an easy win- only for the Athenians to achieve a dramatic victory and force Darius to retreat.
Nursing a very wounded ego, Darius planned an imminent re-invasion, with plans to raze Athens to the ground- but internal politics delayed these plans and Darius died of old age. Seeking to avenge the pride of his dead father, Xerxes prepared for a decisive campaign to end Greek independence forever.
Remembering well the lessons at Marathon, Xerxes took his time to build a sizable force. Though some historical accounts tell of a force up to 2.5 million strong- these are almost certainly gross exaggeration, and it's more likely that Xerxes marched with 200,000 to 250,000, though for the ancient world this would certainly have been an incredible and mind-boggling number. Xerxes plan was simple: march into Greece through the north, and outflank any Greek defenders by landing his navy behind them along the Greek coast.
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"Molon Labe" - Leonidas
Can their quotes get any more badass than that...
"Mολών λαβέ''-Λεωνίδας
na
@@manaraslespaul yes, that looks even more badass 💪🏻
Molon Labe means come and get it :)
You forgot to mention that Greece was united after the greek kingdom of Macedon under Philip and under Alexander the great defeated the Persian empire and an indian kingdom.
“Leonidas and his 299 closest gym buddies...”
123 456 hahah lol
billy PepeHands
Rambo AF. Legendary for all time
@Daenerys Targaryen 💯
298
Spartan Newborn : *coughs silently*
Spartans : I diagnose you with weak
Death*
Not my joke but saw it and couldn't stop laughing.
Spartan baby: *Coughs*
Spartan: _"Yeet!"_
Γιωργος Μαυρουδης
R/woosh
Linear Wolf How is it a whoosh? He got the joke
*yeet
Random Greek soldier “King Leonidas we are surrounded!”
Leonidas “Our K/DA is going to be legendary”
Underrated
K/DA*
@@zyperific4687 tf does the a stand for
I've heard reports it was as high as 300:1
This. . .
“King Leonids, they outnumber us 300 to 100000!”
“Then it is an even fight.”
Halo gang 💪🏻
@Akanksh Borah it's from halo my dude
@@sirhurricane4350 He meant it was more than just the spartans.
"YOU BRING SKULLS OF CONQUERED KINGS TO MY CITY STEPS."
"YOU INSULT MY QUEEN"
"YOU THREATEN MY PEOPLE WITH SLAVERY AND DEATH"
"IVE CHOSEN MY WORDS CAREFULLY, PERHAPS YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME"
We Were Epic!
I think Leonidas would consider his death a worthy tradeoff for being immortalized for all of human history
Most importantly Greece remained a free state. His death was not in vain it was exactly what he wanted sacrifice himself to keep Greece free.
All Spartans would rather die than leave the battle field. Leave the battle would dishonor the soldier himself and his family. In fact, when the Spartans collected the bodies of their soldiers, they checked where was the fatal wound, if it was in the chest or the head, that meant that he died while fighting and was greatly honored. If it was at his back, it meant that he was killed while tried to escape, and his whole family was sided by the spartan society.
@@giannisgalanos3654 what if he was stabbed in the back while fighting someone else. 🤔
@@TJ22_83 Then he would also have wounds in his chest as well, if he was circled
@@TJ22_83 you have found a bug in the code above:)
“We’re outnumbered!”
Spartans: I like those odds
NO DEATH, NO GLORY
THIS IS SPARTA!
"Then it is an even fight"
@@MattigityIsBombigity badass
8 to 1 ?? More like even
"Immortals we put there name to the test" - Leonidas
To me, Ancient Greek history is easily one of the most fascinating time periods of all time. I could never get bored of learning about it.
1000% agreed
Persian history is better
My friend go search about ancient india
He is only immortalized because the US needed to brain wash their citizens into supporting a campaign into Afghanistan, and Iraq. They made the persians look like Muslims in this movie. War is a business perputated by Americans, the CIA literally operates to keep war ongoing. They destablize weaker nations around the world.
Imagine we Greeks that care about history how we feel. It feels as a lifelong journey with the occasional mind blowing results. Going forward by looking back. The fact our last Autocrat died in our Byzantine Empire ( Constantinos Paleologos ), fighting against Ottomans, his sacrifice kept fueling the more than 30 major uprisings and ~70 lesser ones that followed until 1821 we eventually threw Muslims out for good. One sacrifice kept fueling the need for freedom for centuries. Paleologos for us has the same significance as Leonidas' and Alexander the Great. If you care as you say, you should check him up.
Athenians: Leonidas we all have to retreat they know the path!
Leonidas: No, I don’t think I will
Arkandians not Athenians
@@OTBlockEntertainment ok... Didn't ask but ok
Athenians? What? That makes no sense the Spartans and the Athenians went to war in 431 BC pelopennesian war
@@davidmanners9076 Athens and Sparta teamed up against the Persians to defend Greece. Then they went to war after that.
The spartans wanted to retreat tho
Persia: "our arrows will block out the sun"
Sparta: "Then we'll fight in the shade"
The laugh after this is epic.
"Well, you had to say it."
if only our politicians had such courage.
@da_babatunde_village
Creatures of Instinct.
Horrible...
@@danielday4863
Our politicians are lining their pockets.
Ask Jeffrey Epstein (007) in Tel Aviv......
Fun Fact: Leonidas was already 60 years old when he died in Thermopylae.
i dare you to make a shower thought of that
@@gdelusiveplayz3609 What do you mean?
you don't know what a shower thought is? i thought everyone knew
@@gdelusiveplayz3609 I literally just googled what it means when I read your reply comment.
I laughed so hard reading this💀💀💀
I've studied Greek myths since I was a little girl and the best story I heard was this battle because it taught me to stand up for myself and never back down for what I believe in
Great to hear that it taught you one thing or two, but It's merely fictional ancient propaganda.
Spartans were actually the ones who oppressed and owned slaves, meanwhile Persians abolished slavery and declared religious freedom across the empire.
Approx. 65% of the worlds population lived in greater Persia for over 200 years as the Achaemenids reigned.
But i guess their enemies wrote the tales and Persia doesn't get the recognition it deserves So I understand why ancient debunked Greek propaganda is still blindly believed and taught till this day.
If interested, I would recommend you to read about Cyrus the great "Cyropedia" or the edict of Cyrus, the first Persian king who set the foundation for many leaders since his time. His cylinder is displayed in UN as a reminder of human rights and he has been mentioned over 30 times in the Bible and Torah for his compassion and great deeds. He's also the only non Israelite Messiah in Jewish faith.
@@sepehr.javaheri No matter how cool Persia was, it was still the invader so it was in the wrong side and as a matter of fact it was bigger yet it lost. It's no propaganda.
@@sepehr.javaheri but its not fiction
@@BlueLena Which empires didn't expand at the time? My point was that Spartans and other greeks had slaves during their time while the Persians abolished slavery as early as 560 B.C.
Persians commited atrocities as well, but we also had rulers who were just and led by the example of Cyrus (Kourosh) who is the only non israelite messiah to jews and regarded as "God's annointed" in the Bible and Torah.
Xerxes, Darius and some other persian kings and wise men are also mentioned.
They wouldn't be regarded as saviors and just rulers if they hadn't respected people under their reign, including Jews and Chrstians. There's no doubt that freedom of religion and a ban of slavery was present in Persia for centuries since 560 B.C.
@@sepehr.javaheri you still don’t answer how this makes the Battle of Thermopylae and the victory of the Greeks in the Persian Wars a “debunked” Ancient Greek propaganda.
The fact Spartans pushed back even after their King was killed to get his body shows how badass they all were. Such a badass group of men
100000 appear at the horizon to conquer Greek
300 spartans:finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary
luca reali wasn’t just 300 Spartans
Ha, Kung Fu Panda
@@sound9864 it was 700 in total. Still tho, compared to 10k its nothing
@@aK-pf3ibinfact the last stand was made by 1000 greeks the 300 of them where spartans
It was 300 Spartans vs 250 thousand Persians
100,000 Persians: *exists*
Leonidas and the other 299: *I diagnose you with dead*
This is severely underrated
In truth it was over 1000 Greeks with 300 of them being Spartans
Daniel Park no bro it wasn’t it was around 300 thousand Persians but some people believe it was a lot more then that
well only 10,000 Persians were actually killed there by the 300
@@danielpark6068 You are incorrect, there were 300 Spartans that held the pass, nobody else was allowed to come. Leonidas saw fear in their eyes and told them to go home because he only wanted the strongest warriors to be there.
I’m glad the Spartans sacrifice was not forgotten
Yeah 10.000 persians almost lost to 300 spartans, I cannot imagine how weak they were
@@yourfriendlyjacob1171 they were cowards
@@garilla2896 yeah
@@yourfriendlyjacob1171 bro the Spartans wanted to run from the Persians, their allies convinced them to stay. The Spartan's military was barely above average for the time. it was around 10k greeks btw
@@yourfriendlyjacob1171 how did they "almost lose"? Every single spartan was killed in the battle
“You bring the crowns and heads of conquered kings to my city steps. You insult my queen. You threaten my people with slavery and death! Oh, I've chosen my words carefully, Persian. Perhaps you should have done the same!”
This is blasphemy, this is madness!
Madness?......
THIS!
IS!
SPARTAAAA!!!
slavery wasnt much of a threat to the spartan people as most of them were already slaves
bro do you know history? spartans had slaves while Persians abolished it and had more tolerance of religion while the spartans forced people to become soldiers and trained them since they were kids and the Persians were more peaceful while the spartans weren't peaceful
@No_NameFair point sorta, their slaves werent from sparta, but still, and also the Persians didnt have slaves anyway either, yet the Spartans did
Spartans: *Knock Knock*
Persians: *Who's there?*
Spartans: *Dishes*
Persians: *Dishes Who?*
Spartans: *DISHESS SPARTAAA!*
i don't get it
Deaths Reaper In the movie he said “this is spartaaaaa!”
Deaths Reaper you have to see 300.
Persean or persia or iran
MADNESS?
So, how much war do you want?
Sparta: Yes.
do they go to devil for killing?
@@ocpopsmoke what? Lol Christianity wasn’t even around back then, let alone them believing in a “devil”
@@jiffy1002 I mean there was hades
they actually didnt fight that much. they only fought battles they knew they were gonna win. this makes their win rate 100 percent.
Bro this comment killed me 😆😆
"Is it an earthquake?" - "It's battle formations"
"Surrender your weapons" - "Come and get them"
"Our arrows will block out the sun" - "Then we will fight in the shade"
"Its we who choose to die at feets rather than live on knees"
If spartans had a dictionary back then,then I guess the word "surrender" doesn't exist
Surrender? They asked where the enemies were, never how many they were
Until the Peloponnesian war at the battle of sophacteria where they surrendered to athens
@@aaronmachado13 Sparta won the Peloponnesian war pretty decisively. As a curious note, while Thebes and other city-states wanted Athens to be completely decimated and enslaved, Sparta showed mercy out of respect.
Spartans:is this a coward joke I am too manly to understand
Probably, only as an imperative
Earthquake?
No, captain, battle formations.
EARN THESE SHIELDS BOYS!
@@Arganith AOOOOOOOOO!
I'm very impressed how they don't fall down when the Persian push them instead the Persian tht fall
@@abdullah_6458 SPARTANS Lay down your weapons!
PERSIAN! Come and get them!!
How the Macedonians be when the Persians conquered them: *holds up sign* "SOON"
I see you are a history matters fan
i would like to ask for an explanation for me and the world who doesn't get this reference .
History matters 😁
@@REALANSHUMAN This is a reference to the Macedonian empire and Alexander the Great
I love macadamia nuts
I think we all know that those “freak storms at sea” weren’t freak storms at all but Zeus and Poseidon lending a hand.
And Hades’ job was welcoming the souls to the underworld.
True
Crazy to think the Spartans which were outnumbered fought 4 different times trying to get back Leonidas’s body
The bond of a warrior king and his men is stronger than any bond that exists today
@@cow117yt6 well said brother!
@@cow117yt6 True very true
@@cow117yt6 it was his son who lead the charge, but yes they loved their king. (Though he had many slaves and his wife far ;away)
"Immortals.... We'll put their name to the test."
Vic Diesel they were called immortal cause if one of them was dead another soldier was replaced with him
Saeed Pirveisi And that soldier is also dead
Alejandro Sanchez 😂😂😂 facts but another will replace the other dead soldier so yea 😂😂😂
IRCG immortals awaits. Just try....
I'm sorry but Greeks were the guys who couldn't take a punch and fell lol 😂 Persians won
The Spartans are the coolest military people in history I would be in the Greek side
Which one?
King David’s army would clap the Spartans in seconds David’s mighty men were literally killing giants lionmen and chimera
@@smallkidalexmomonlyfansat1551 because his army was more materialized, better equipment and weapons, and better technology
@@smallkidalexmomonlyfansat1551 Coolest not strongest
The reason is they made Persians look like bad pp but iff u read the history Persian were the most civilized empire ever
"Immortals, we put their name to the test" one of the best lines from 300.
Not exactly from history It's from the Frank Miller's comics ... they didnt knew why were they called the Immortals.
Just in games and Hollywood movies. Not in reality. Persian army was best marvelous miraculous unbeatable army of all the time, peaceful army.
@@Ace.Hunter true
But you know, let them be
They could defeat us in real word so let them defeat us in video games and social media 😂
Wow didn't know the Persians had samurais, mongols and ottomans in their army!
yaşa r/woooosh
Lamellar armor and dome-style helmets were used by everyone in those days. Just goes to show how effective lamellar and scale armor is if the Persians used it more than 2000 years ago, and Japan continued to use it until just about 300 years ago.
That style of armor is so cheap and effective that the look of it hasn't changed much in all those years, even if people eventually ended up using chain mail and steel plate later on in the 10th century.
@yaşa Nop that's why the video is wrong.
@@doctorhunger921 But none of those portrayed as specifically Persian were actually Persian from the Achaemenid Empire. Immortals in that period wore the Persian tiara, but the actual form is uncertain, as some sources describe it as a cloth or felt cap. Those vectors used to represent them were either made up (the fake horned Germanic opera helmets) or from other empires such as the Ottoman Janissaries who wear a turban headdress with a steretypical Turkish moustache, the samurai kabuto helmet with clearly 14th century Muromachi period samurai armor, the Mongol looking warriors are using Khatangu-degel armour with a typical disc plate in their chest used also by Manchus, Koreans, Chinese, Russians and Turkic peoples from the middle ages using a dao/falchion styled sword.
@@lilplayboy98 but not China and Japan
Me: Plays assassin’s creed odyssey
I’m a spartan expert
Dominick Garcia heh heh exactly same here. Thanks to Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, I am quite immersed in Greek history and culture
Ikr
Same hahaha
Dominick Garcia sane 😂
That’s literally why I click on this video
As a Persian I believe this video is amazing, completely neutral and objective without bias or racism, Well done. The Movie "300" broke our hearts as it showed our people as bloodthirsty mindless beasts, I mean the who met with Leonidas was more like a creature from the Lord of the Rings than a human being. Ancient Persia was the first country to abolish slavery and form the concept of paid workers. King Cyrus the Great was the first leader who recognised human rights; his famous declaration of Human rights is celebrated as the first declaration to this day and is respected by the UN. Ancient Persia freed slaves and let people hold whatever religious beliefs they wanted to and would - most probably- not have invaded Greece had it not been because of their involvement in the Ionic rebellion and their threat to the kingdom (as stated in this video).
As a Greek of Ionic descent ,I want to express my appreciation and admiration for the Ancient Persian Civilization. Different but one of the greatest civilizations.Persians were our worthy opponents.Alexander the Great already admitted this before he died.
I also send hello to my Greek brothers and sisters and wish them a long and fruitful life. Unfortunate that since my country isnt in good relationships with the west they were portrayed really poorly in the movie.
This was one of the most important moments in history, especially when it comes to Western Democraxy. The World would probably look much different if Leonidas had decided not to make his stand. Their heroic last stand helped unite the remaining City States. I don't know why this gets overlooked so much, but it was an extremely important moment. All hail, Leonidas!
Because it really didn't change anything Spartans lost the battle and Persians burned the athen . The fact that Greeks won the war has nothing to do with this battle.
And about "western democracy" years after this Spartans allied with the Persians to destroy Athens democracy
@@someguy-bv3il it's not like this, it is known that one of the reasons of the progress and development of the western civilization is the victory of "Greece" against the Persian empire, the world as we know it today could not exist if Leonidas didn't show to the other Greek polis that the Persians were not invincible, and it's because of him (basically taking time) that Athens could be evacuated.
Certain elements of our modern governments don't like European men hearing of the brave sacrafices our ancestors made, and the hope it would give us today in the face of migrant invasions
@@chance2413 let me guess a member of storm front.
yeah, not true
I think that Leonidas did the best to defend his land as a King, there's no doubt about it, he did what a King was supposed to do, knowing he will die eventually, but winning some extra time for the ally forces to group. That's a real man.
Hayian That’s the same reason we drop tilted towers
Fun fact he was 60 at the time
Arthur Cheng but the citizens were evacuated so it’s good
Sparta had two kings (it was one of their system of checks and balances) and Spartan kings didn't have legislative powers - they were basically hereditary generals. About a generation later, Sparta became a client state of the Persians during the Pelloponesian War. The history of Greece (and history in general) isn't about real men doing manly doings - it's about the ebb and flow of humanity due to economics.
What leader today would fight a war to defend their nations people
Leonidas didn't surrender because he couldn't. Spartans were not allowed to retreat in battles. They had to either win or die and do they did
Facts
It doesnt change the fact that it was baddass
That's actually not true lol, or every lost battle would result in the entire decimation of their army. Fleeing battle was a no-go, but retreating was as every bit normal in Sparta than it was in the rest of the world. It was because of this battle where the rumor/legend of "Spartans never retreat" was born.
That and they had to hold their ground for as long as possible. The rest of the Greek coalition retreated and the Spartans and a few hundred other Greeks had to be the rearguard from calvary or else the entire army would be destroyed.
They famously surrendered to Athens during the Peloponnesian war began Spartans didn’t use bows and arrows because it was cowardly and a small group was slowly getting picked off by anchors. Anyway it such a huge deal, jokes were allegedly made about wear are the real Spartas? ect. Surrounding is not the same as retreating but it was so imbedded into Spartan society to die fighting that it was monumental news at the time. Athens streets were full to whiteness the Spartan prisoners as it was it heard of. They were similar to Vikings in the sense that it was so imbedded to die fighting that they most like never or rarely retreated just because they actually wanted to die in battle. After all only men who died in battle (and women who died in child birth) were allowed grave stones. To die peacefully was a great personal shame.
The fact that Leonidas King of Sparta fought with his men for 3 days is actually the crazy part
There my be 7000 men, but it’s still one of the greatest military acts in history
*Closes the video*
*Installs Assassin’s Creed Odyssey*
Good Idea
R U 1 2 are you gonna hop into a time machine and experience reality for yourself? Oh wait.
R U 1 2
If you found a way to experience *history* tell me cuz everyone likes the reality lol
real shame that Odyssey was more interested in pushing sjw politics than telling accurate history. The monuments and general geography are pretty much the only thing thats accurate in the game.
The game actually has an extreme historical accuracy and historical/mythological story telling, so you wouldn't even need to watch this video really.
"You there... may you live forever."
What a cutting line. Perfect
Nope I'd rather die
Greatest insult
The curse
Ephialtes the Traitor
The reason this battle is so fascinating is because it was one of "the last stand" battles, when a group of men decides to, instead of retreating or surrendering, leave it all on the battlefield.
The Spartans were taught from a young age to never surrender, which is why he stayed and fought. In the film 300, the queen says to Leonidas, " Spartan, come home with your shield, or on it", meaning come home victorious, or dead.
"Ήταν η επί τας"
Just because it was in movie, its not true. you do know that, right?
@@diggingupnorth3453 yes, I do know that. It was also a standard good-bye for Spartan people going to war.
@@ronstreet6706
As far as I study:
Beheading innocent babies, attacking surrounding areas, years of war and bloodshed with Athens, homosexuality due to being away from the real world, being tortured from childhood just to learn to bleed more violently and slavery...
These were the standard of the Spartans!
They were born slaves and were slaves for the rest of their lives!
Neither democracy nor freedom, both are funny for the Spartans ...
THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM
THIS IS WHERE WE *FIGHT*
*THIS* IS WHERE *THEY DIE*
Lost_illusion And these shields boys!
@@bennyfitzgerald4457 "earn these shields boys"
@@islandboy5173 AOOOOOOOOO!
I am so proud of you guys😢
300 likes
*Leonidas has joined the server*
Supposedly he was already 60 yrs old back then... He must be pretty old right now... 😂
xerxes has left the server
herobrine zoro Hades said “Can we get a rip in the chat
the Rashidun caliphate has joined the server
@@TheInfographicsShow efialtis is the translation of nightmare in Greek
So inspiring. I feel like fighting. The old world was the best ever. Now there are no men of great deeds anymore. No bravery like in the times of old.
I'd love to see your presentation of this.
The Battle of Midway during WWII was the first naval battle in history in which the opposing fleets never fired a shot against each other or even saw each other. The entire battle was fought with aircraft attacking the opposing fleet.
I've been to Thermopylae, the place where The Greeks saved Western Civilization. The feeling when you're there and looking around is amazing, especially the mound where the last remaining Spartans made their last stand. Archaelogists found thousands of arrows buried around the same spot. Even with so few of the 300 left, the overwhelming number of the enemy army still found the need to use their archers instead of going in for hand to hand combat to finish them.
May the memory of the warriors who gave their lives there live forever.
Yeah well considering archers were the main weapon of the Persian army that makes sense ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
You should watch less 300 and pick up a textbook.
@@jediwheels1781 wdym. All the staff he said were facts and well researched.
@currency ma and the whole middle east,europe,Asia are full of greek DNA mostly Europe and middle east but still you are sayin that the greeks didn't save the western civilisation while it's a fact that greeks are the western civilisation themselves but even if the weren't they still saved it from asians and other empires in middle east.
@@jediwheels1781 hater/loser
They should have made a plaque or written stone with all spartans names ..that would have been amazing
wait this is cool
(my world history teacher sent our class this so that we could do an assignment and I'm perfectly fine with that.)
this channel is lit
I have always admired king Leonidas since I was a child
admired him so much that I thought he was only a Legend
But as I grew up I knew he was real and ever since he is my Favourite Leader, king and warrior of all time.
R.I.P King Leonidas of Sparta
"Greek soldiers wore heavy breastplates"
*shows them being shirtless and only having them with brown and red underwear*
Edit: Nah, dudes the Spartans' abs are their bronze breastplates.
Yes. Good.
Hollywood
@@GreenLyfe00 You mean comics, Hollywood just adapted the comic.
Probably so that you could tell them apart from the others more easily, as it is the most iconic and recognizable look for the Spartans.
@@bobjones1432 I'm pretty sure their abs and biceps *ARE* their armor.
Persia: *exists*
Greeks: *peace was never an option*
Well no. Persia tried to take over Greece for it's trade routes. So Persia was in the wrong.
@@dddsddbdb the winners write history, i’m sure there was more too it from the persian perspective
Alexandra the great: not anymore
@@gavinodem5788 you are very wrong on that
Herodotus and Thucydides were the first to write down history and they had very high standars
Thucydides who was very objective even when his own city state fought a war agaist another city state (there was a lot of hate between each side)
Thucydides is the first historian, the first man with the idea of objectively writing down events for the future generations
@@gavinodem5788 THE WINNERS DON'T WRITE HISTORY , what dobyou think will happen if someone began sending books for the academy using as source only documents or propaganda of one country you would be shamed for that.
People don't realise leonidas was 65 years old when this happens
Darius: *dies of old age*
Xerxes: father i will avenge you!
Me: dafuq?
*History :*
Sparta vs Persia
*Present :*
Pewdiepie vs T-Series
who?
@@titanax03 What?
Future: youtube vs Twitter.
Just 100 times more intense ... Sub to pdp btw
Lol
"Come back with your shield, or on it."
The sacrifice of Leonidas and the men who stood alongside him not only preserved athenian culture, and enabled them to eventually beat back the Persian empire, but went down in history as some of the greatest warriors who ever lived, and their story lives on more than two thousand years later.
@arab man What are you on about?
except that they didnt really preserve the culture and enable them to beat them back since the Persians couldnt really give chase and attack in time anyway so their sacrifice was basically for nothing
@@kumquat5207 well you know what the story is so if nothing else it made it so they will always be remembered.
Sparta had a average military at the time the spartan myth has been blown out of context and they were not as powerful as people are lead to belive
@@rayansharma2042 I mean thier size definitely wasn't powerful but most of the soldiers were definitely better than an average Persian or Athenian soldier.
And then a couple hundred years later Alexander the Great said “fine I guess I’ll do it myself”
Eh, not so much. He skipped Sparta. He did not want to commit so many forces to take it.
TIS:*The Persian army*
Also TIS: shows a group of ottomans with samurais and vikings
Ask your money back :p More graphic details/accuracy would result in a more costly effort.
It's cuz Leonidas has a reverse card
Facts
Macedonians WERE Greeks.
Alexander himself took part in the Olympics wich was ONLY for Greeks
Only for Greeks. They would have won 0 medals if Persians participated
The first Macedonian king that took part in the Olympics was first rejected because he wasn't seen as a greek, so he sent a genealogy to the organizers that "proved" that he was a descendant of greeks. Since then, the Macedonian kings were allowed to take part in the Olympics. But what does the story tell us about how the Greeks viewed the Macedonians?
I think the Macedonians were a people that were closely related to the Greeks but were not quite Greeks.
@@firstaidsackIt seems that you studied history at college but as you already know macedonians origins were from (modern day) Argos . They were totally greeks even if they had no democracy and they spoke a greek dialect (but still, many greek city states spoke a dialect of ancient greek).
In balkans (as you already know again I guess ) there were 3 different nationalities . Hellenes (dorians , ionians , aiolians) ,Ilirians and Tharcans not Macedonians
I like your passion in history man !
@@firstaidsack people have found ancient Macedonian sheets. I'm Greek and I can still read them after 2000 years. Nobody else can. cause Macedon was Greek.
and he spoke greek, and his teacher "ARISTOTEL" is greek, teaching him greek, in a greek state "MACEDONIA"!!!
This is one of my favorite campaigns in the ancient world with Thermopylae sitting right at the top. Agreed that Ancient Greece would have been a serious superpower if they would have only unified.
Alexander did that in the coming years.
Spartan: Sir! We are surrounded!
Leonids: I like these odds!
Me: *watches the movie “300”*
*I’m a spartan expert*
Ashdown yes
Only Greeks are true spartans
The Biker only Spartans are true Spartans
Victor Nikolai wasnt Mycenae one of them
I like the fact that 300
Was the most inaccurate movie to Persians Xerexes wasn’t Black with piercings tf
4:36 Persian Immortals ( shows samurai)
Shielded samurais
Who care
@@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408 I care
Actually that’s Canadian
The immortals wore grey armor and helmet though I do agree the sword is a bit samurai.
There was a rumor that Leonidas sword actually broke on the final day due to the amount of punishment he was inflicting on the Persians.
The man who wrote about this grossly exaggerated possibly every single aspect of the battle.
@@stevenhetzel6483 it is not believable and I understand that but the Spartans were some different kind of breed
7000 Greeks
300 Spartans.
Title: Spartans vs Persians
It's crazy how the Greeks defeated the Persians when they had Samurai and Canons on their ships. But I guess it's easy when all of your troops have arm muscles larger than my head.
@@justaboy3123 I'm surprised someone actually knew that lots of people don't even know that. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with others. Lol
i don't think they had canons bud
@@NSFMoriginal excuse me, watch the video. The facts are all there.
@@justaboy3123 you forgot that spartans naturally produce deca and tren
Plus the video is wrong in a lot of things
My grandfather fought in the Battle of Thermopylae.
Michael Villasenor my grandfather was a conquistador and helped defeat the aztecs
@@zigzgshodzixhoxohxh3800 My father killed Abraham Lincoln.
lol
But you grandfather wouldn't be over a 1,000 years old I think you meant ancestors
Giovanni H r/woooosh
Just watched The 300 Spartans 1962 version last night, This helped it make so much more sense
It we stand and die it will not be a defeat, we must give heart to our allies and families, let our fellow Greeks look to our sacrifice As a symbol of free men who fought on willingly to the end to preserve the liberties we hold dear.
*NO PRISONERS!*
*AHOO!*
*NO MERCYYYYYY!*
*AHOO!*
SPARTANNSSSS
Loud Vietnamese noises
Imagine someone sneezing while war crying
AHOO!
Leonidas: SPARTANS WHAT IS THE SCIENTIFIC WORD FOR GOLD?!
Spartan Soldiers: AU AU AU!!!
I literally just learned this in school. The fbi dude watching me just stepped up his game.
😂😂😂
If they told you that Macedonia and Greece are separate, for your own good find another teacher to teach you history.
@@cerealkiller7143 they are
Macedonia is GREECE🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Same
I always had doubts on this. Great video
Idk why I'm watching this without it being a history assignment but im here now
Sad that you mentioned Themistocles such a small amount of time. He was the one who built up the Athenian naval fleet, and he was one of the generals in charge of the Athenian naval fleet. He convinced the Athenian citizens to abandon the city of Athens, and thus allowed every able-bodied Athenian male to man the Athenian triremes. He also convinced the Greek alliance to stand against the Persians BECAUSE of this Athenian investment into the war.
Themistocles was also the lead strategists for the entire Battle of Thermopylae. He noted the narrow passage and convinced the allied Greek army to hold the Persians there.
In short, don't forget about Themistocles.
Don't worry you guys it's not a sad ending. The Greeks had the last laugh as a united Greece led by a great man 146 years later conquered the Persian empire.
I have to do my Greek history research
And later defeated by Indian Empire
@@ShubhamChavan-if5mf alexander the great never lost.Also indian empire wasn't a big deal for Greeks
@@stavrosp6810 bro he was defeated by Chandragupta Maurya and forced to retreat you can do research 🤷
@@ShubhamChavan-if5mf Alexander was undefeated
A few errors in this video. The battle AT (not "of") Thermopylae actually did inspire the unification of Greece and, through the course of history, was used as inspiration in instilling confidence in the scattered territories to unite and rally behind Alexander the Great. Greek leadership cited Thermopylae quite often to illustrate to the Greek people what they were capable of - i.e. "look what the Spartans accomplished! We're Greeks!" etc. etc. Greeks became more concerned with being Greeks than being identified by their smaller territorial titles - patriotism in unification. As a result, the battle at Thermopylae played a major role in the birth of democracy, as a whole, into modern society. This video seems to disregard (if not completely dismiss) this truth. I really enjoy the infographics videos, but this one falls a little short in reliability.
This video, like many others are completely biased. Even though he tells some facts, they simply can't help it. They have to try to shove their political bs down our throats. I'm concerned for the ignorant people, that are easily manipulated and will certainly fall for much of the propaganda used in this video. Sad times we live in. And also, choosing who's going to take all the decisions for you in the next 4 years, has nothing to do with athenian democracy. Absolutely disingenuous political propaganda. Channels like this, should be more weary of the amount of influence they have and they should remain neutral for the sake of wisdom and knowledge. Sad indeed.
I love history it's so fascinating to know what came before us
One number comes to mind: *_300_*
Plus their few thousand friends who also fought and died. Mostly died.
I had a different number come to mind. 117.
The only number on my mind is 69
It’s 666
300 likes
**Looks back in the flashback of Meet The Spartans**
Lol american idol there 😂
Funnily enough I just finished watching meet the Spartans an hour ago. Seeing this video reminds me of the seen when the Spartans and Persians where doing a break dance battle 😂
Yeah that movie is one of the funniest parody's ever
@@suvratpandit5701 why is it rated 2.7? I wanna watch it if its good but its rating is too low
@@emraldswrd parody's are always rated low...there's a movie called "dude where's my car" the critics trashed that movie as well..
But if you watch it then that movie is one of the best comedies of all time....watch meet the Spartans you won't regret it...if you haven't watched 300 first ( which I assume you have) then watch 300 first
Spartan Soldier: "My King, we are outnumbered 35 to 1"
King Leonidas: "Then it is an even fight"
Imagine traveling back in time just to watch the war from a view 😮 and recording it on your cellphone 😂
This video left out the most crucial words from history: “Molon Labe” = King Leonids said “Come and get them” when King Xerxes asked the Spartans to lay down their weapons.
Re proud to be Cypriot
Like Gregorious Auxentiou
Exactly right
Were you there ?!
Did you hear with your own ears ?!
By no means can I believe these events are like children's stories!
It's interesting that I've heard this dialogue many times in Hollywood, isn't it suspicious?
It seems that 2500 years ago, a scribe always recorded all the words, shouts and events of the war on the scene in incredible detail!
It's really funny ...
@@A-msaaren legends grow, but I don’t doubt someone of a Spartan mindset would say that
@@ajfite1277
Do you mean the legend of the Spartans ?! (Comedy Story No. 2)!!
Leonidas name echoes in eternity
2500 years later still talked about...legend
"And what if their arrows block out the sun?"
"Then we will fight in the shade"
I feel like Leonidas knew his name would live forever
Macedonia is greek. Macedonia since the ancient years has been the northen part of greece and still is greek today. The country you are talking about is northen macedonio that only last year has been considered an independent country and has nothing to do with actual greeks. Northern macedonians aren't greek they are slavs and have stolen the name by political games and well played tricks.
@Provocateur lol sure μαλακα
@Provocateur you are wrong man but i wont argue as you obviously have little to no historical knowledge
@@user-ob4hh9tg4l τρολαρει ο αλλος να ξες
@Provocateurprobably troll but Spartans were Greek and come from the islands south. Athenians for obviously Greek and Macedonians were also Greek.
Η Ελλάδα είναι για όλους, η Μακεδονία είναι για όλους αν θέλουν το όνομα τότε πρέπει να είμαστε ανώτεροι, να τους το δώσουμε (επισήμος γιατί ούτως ή άλλως αναγνωρίζονται έτσι ήδη) και να τους βοηθήσουμε να μπουν στην Ευρώπη. Μπορεί να έχουμε δικαίωμα σε αυτό το όνομα, όμως δεν έχουμε κανένα δικαίωμα να μην τους αφήσουμε να αναπτυχθούν σαν λαός επειδή δεν μπορούμε να μοιραστούμε την πολιτιστική κληρονομιά μας ( η οποία εν μέρη είναι και δικιά τους)
Philip II of Macedon, after invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe.
The reply was "Neither."
Losing patience, he sent the message: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city":
The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word: "If".
Λεωνανδρος Περγαμενος badass.
A lot of dramatic quotes and responses that don't mean jack, lol. Industry and sruvival and statehood are boring affairs and aren't dramatic. Historically dramatic leaders and people didn't last too long because reality doesn't work by saying neither, if, this that, googoogaga. Those same conservative SPartans took bribes from Persians when it suited them. What did they say then? Yes. No. Please. Money.
@@rrnsensei9240 and people will continue repressing.
@@rrnsensei9240 the fact that 2480 years later videos are made to glorify Spartans literal Nazis of the ancient world while Persians, who tolerated other languages and religions are vilified you know you're wrong in your hope.
@@saeedvazirian snowflake alert
I am from greece... Nice video👍👍
“Though initially imperfect”
>implying democracy is now perfect
"Greece could have resisted the advances of the Macedonians"
that's why you shouldn't learn history from youtube: Macedonia was (and is) part of Greece.
Δεν θα καταλάβουν μέχρι να σφαξουμε αυτούς τους ψεύτες
@cinciillini8484 'the rest of Greece' would be a better way to put it though.
@@teodorgeorgievski1148 Read some history books, you need it.
@@teodorgeorgievski1148 Alexandros (his real greek name) unite greeks against persia for revense . in all his life was says how proud greek he is as descedant of Achilles and Hercules ...you are confuse him with his father who has battles with the other greek city states...very common in the greek world.....
@@teodorgeorgievski1148 so you watch this video and all the others video of greece in this channel... you are referring to a nation with at least 5000 years of history... and 1000 things I can say about Greece... but the first thing you say is "greece must be the dumbest nation" BRUHHHH you literally must have 300 iq
I'm so proud
Big wrongs : 1 ) Macedonian empire was also greek
2) phrase "molon lave " means :come to get them (about weapons)
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ=αν εχεις το ψυχικο σθενος παρτα.
ΕΛΘΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ =ελα παρτα
What is underestimated is that there is always a new army, younger army of men always willing to defend their cause. It's not necessarily always the victory, but how the leader influenced was successful to gather the defense army.
I love y’all’s channel man my god.
And lets make it clear: Macedonia was an ancient Greek Kingdom, in Greece.
And?
The other Greeks didn't consider Macedonia to be Greek, which is part of the reason why Macedonia conquered them
@Δήμιος His dad, Philip II, united Greece by conquering them, and then died, and Alexander won their favour and conquered everything. But they were 100% conquered by Macedonia. For example, the battle of Chaeronia in 338 BCE was when Philip II crushed the combined forces of Athens and Thebes, with Alexander as a general.
I think he’s talking about the former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) not being Greek, theyre not even the Greek Macedonians associated with Alexander the Great. FYROM are Slavic people.
Not really. The ancient FYROMians ("Macedonians") spoke a western dialect of Bulgarian, so they were Slavic-Bulgarian people. They were barbarians with no connection to Greece. The ancient FYROMians were described as Slavophones living north of Greece, so they couldn't have been Greek. They were Bulgarians. But they wish they were Greek of course.
Athenians, Spartans, Macedonians e.t.c had something in common.
Speeking Greek, wrighting in Greek, believing in Greek gods. They where all Greeks.
that might be true but Athens and Sparta were always fighting each other for supremacy and there are two battles (at least two) that show how many differences they had despite the common language and common soil . One battle separated in two different places , one outside Sparta and one outside the city walls of Athens (acropolis) which was the result of an open provocation of Athenians to Spartans which Leonidas took personally and one battle in Sicilia , which Spartans won again of course and the outcome was an Athens left without leadership or almost without any leadership at least .
they where all hellenics* Macedonians being considered inferior for they political organization and spartha and athens considered spheres of influence for they political organizations
Herodotus, The Histories 9.45.1-2
Alexander's I' of Macedon speech to the Athenians the night before the battle of Plataea:
“Men of Athens, I give you this message in trust as a secret which you must reveal to no one but Pausanias, or else you will be responsible for my undoing. In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery"
clarification, Alexander I of Macedonia, not Alexander III, the famous one. and in the text of herodotus are the same macedonians that claim themselves greeks, not sparthans or athenians, thats clarified in borzas studies about herodotus and, even claiming that the title of "philhellene" that Alexander gain thakns to his efort against the persians is the same given for none greeks, "friend of the hellenes"
so yes, they shared the same lenguage and culture, but where seen as inferior, thous the need to claim themselves and (in philipos time) to conquer the cities
I saw this at my social studies class i had to watch it and write down notes i was happy .
Persians: 100, 000 is enough to conquer Greece.
Leonidas: Hold my spear
Also Leonidas : (recruits 299 personal guards)
Persians: Are we a joke to you?
CREEKS ON KOREA WAR
True warrior
Leonidas: yes.
300 Guards. The spartans started as 301 as 300 was the lowest amount of guards a king could have
10:35 Macedonians were also Greeks. And In fact the Greeks did conquer the whole ancient world. Alexander the Great conquered Persia, Egypt, and India.
SO Iran First Empire.
Alexander the Great didn't really conquer Egypt but more so Egyptians accepted him as pharaoh since he kicked the Persians out,took control but not really "conquer" in the traditional sense.
He only really win against a small Kingdom in India and he never went anywhere near China.
Alexander did not conquer China.
Kevin Gonzalez He actually did fight and win a couple of battles against the Egyptians.
@@sigmaalpha8698 when? I never read about any battles in Egypt from what I remember it was the easiest part of Alexander's campaign after the siege of Tyre, Egyptians accept him as a savior and ruler without a struggle.
This helped a lot for a essay I had. lol thx
I like to see a tackle Battle of belleau wood. I'd also like to see you tackle Iwo Jima. And one of my favorite battles of history the Battle of the Bulge.
Macedonians were Greeks just like Athenians , Spartans etc .....
dante The video says that. Thrace, Macedon and the rest greek.
Not all Greeks were viewing Macedonians as Barbarians, also those who did it was because the Macedonians had a Monarchic system unlike the rest Greeks who had a Democratic or an Oligarchic one. Epirotans were also seen as barbarian from those Greeks for the same reason
@Βασίλειος Μπεσλεμές the macedonians are for sure greeks but not the thraceans
Only Greek were able to participate in the Olympics and many kings of the Macedon dynasty (which is said that came from the city of Argos in southern Greece) participated, among them Alexander the Great himself.
Correct, but the fact that a united "southern Greece" (an alliance of Athens, Sparta, etc.) could potentially slow down the advancement of the Hellenic civilization is possible (i think this is what the video is trying to say at 10:24 ). If Fillip hadn't united the whole Greece under one rule, due to an immense resistance by a city-state alliance, we would look today to see a completely different world, not necessarily better nor worse.