The $3000 PC That Couldn't Run Escape From Tarkov... (On Streets) | PC Sherpa Ep. 4
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This was a tougher one. Please do let me know your thoughts on the performance issues with the RAM as I really do want to learn more about that sector of PC Tweaking. Appreciate all of your support and thank you all for watching. See you in the stream :D
(Also for reference, their system was an i7 11700k with a RTX 4090 with 32 GB RAM)
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GPU-Bound Settings: • Change THESE Settings ...
CPU-Bound Settings: • What Settings ACTUALLY...
MIP Streaming: • Do NOT Use This Settin...
POSTFX: • These PostFX Settings ...
DLDSR And DLSS: • Making Tarkov's FPS SM...
Shadow Quality: • We NEED To Clear Up TH...
Music used:
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cocabona, Emperose - Lost Woods chll.to/eb575966
Yasper, sonofmark - Yellowblue chll.to/1748963a
Evil Needle - Tendre chll.to/34cf0292
Masked Man - Winter Wonderland chll.to/01aaa3e8
Leavv - Winter Shore chll.to/2f796c33
Leavv, Maduk - Company chll.to/de7cb752
Misha, Jussi Halme - Fountain chll.to/3ff608b6
cocabona - Bushwick chll.to/b41128b8
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:20 Specs & RAM Discussion
3:49 I Need Your Help...
5:02 RAM Isn't An Issue... Until It Is.
6:15 Quick Settings Overview
7:27 FPS Beforehand and Goals
8:36 Checking CPU Clocks
11:10 Texture Quality
11:50 Shadow Quality
12:18 Object LOD Quality
14:47 Overall Visibility
15:24 Anti-Aliasing
16:20 HBAO
18:15 Anisotropic Filtering
20:11 Enabling & Testing DLDSR (The 4090 Is CRAZY!)
23:47 Forcing DLDSR Res On Desktop
24:28 Results & Final Thoughts
Settings:
Resolution: 1440p
Screen: Borderless
Texture Quality: Medium
Shadows Quality: Low
Object LOD Quality: 3
Overall Visibility: 1500
Anti-aliasing: TAA High
Resampling: 1x off (duh)
DLSS/FSR 1.0/ FSR 2.1: Off
HBAO: Max Performance
SSR: Medium
Anisotropic Filtering: On
Nvidia Reflex: On
Sharpness: 0.9
MIP Streaming Off
Specs:
CPU: i5-13600k
GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) @ 3200mhz CL16
1 TB Samsung 980 Pro SDD
MOBO: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ProSeries
PSU: Corsair RM 850x
#EscapeFromTarkov #EFT #tarkov #fps - Hry
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Like I said, please do let me know your thoughts on the RAM as we've been testing to really no avail so far. Appreciate you all and thank you all for watching :D
UPDATE IN THE "READ MORE" SECTION OF THIS COMMENT:
Diablo (the client here) got some help from the people in my discord, and decided on running DSR (not DLDSR) to go to a higher scaled resolution. After that, he resumed having 4 sticks in his board. Turns out his board is a literal king in LGA 1200 (the MSI Med Unify) which can easily handle high speed RAM- likely allowing him to hit the 4000 Mt/s speed without issue. As far as the clocks on the CPU go, those are likely fine (just some usual slight down clocking under multithreaded workloads to stay stable). Also, performance is still better with the 4 sticks, against all logic we have. No clue why with a dual channel board, but here we are. Appreciate all your help and thank you for watching!
Wow, finally someone talking about tweaks who actually knows what each tweak does.
Loving this series! I've picked up a lot from it.
I was happy to hear you say that someone who's CPU-bound would be fine switching to Medium shadows. I remember you recommending Low most of the time in other videos. Low is really hard to look at for me with the blurriness and the way you can literally see shadows "tick" across the ground as they update with the position of the sun.
A while ago I did, yeah. I did some testing though that really showed margin of error in between low and med when CPU bound, so its all good to go for it! Also glad to hear youre loving it. Make sure to watch my PC Sherpa live vods too if you want some more too, they are around after I stream them (normally after 6pm CST)
this series is amazing
21:20 if you want to work DLDSR in Borderless, you can go to NVCP, Change resolution section and then change your resolution to the DLDSR's resolution.
For the shrinking problem. Go to the Adjust Desktop Size and Position. Change the scaling size to either Aspect Ratio or Fullscreen. It'll solve the shrinking problem(everything gets smaller in desktop or in games etc., it'll fix that but not 100%). Do not change it to No Scaling because that option will not solve the shrinking problem.
klemintime youre the best man
Another great video Klem! Thanks for the longer overlay on your texts for the old guys here :P Keep up the great work brother.
Game runs like junk..
Odd perfect moments at full gsync 138fps.
12700k , 2 sticks 32gb in GEAR 1 , GEAR1 please do research @2933mhz....in GEAR 1 , ONE , NOT 2 , ONE! An nvme gen4 ssd......a 4080.....a 1000w pcie5 atx 3.0 psu.
As a game In general.....it runs like absolute dogshit.
Here goes the 2933mhz gear 1 questions ( why aren't you running your kit at the 3600 speed In gear 2 it's more mhz hurrrr durrrrr)
Thanks! And no problem, Im glad it wasn't *too* long as I wasn't sure how long to have them up. Good call :)
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u can go with 2x resolution. im running on my 5800x3d and 7900xtx with no frame lost and the gpu is 100%
I want to try the dsr stuff, I think that could help me out. I will say this though, it’s ridiculous we have to go to these lengths for streets performance when BSG could help us out by OPTIMIZING THE DAMN GAME!!!
I have a 4080 super and I find on maps that give me high FPS like factory, Labs and woods I utlize my GPU at around 80-90%, but streets and lighthouse only use around 50-60% of my gpu and give alot worse FPS. I am guessing BSG just doesnt care about optimization lol and since streets is a newer map it just is terribly optimized. Just my guess as to why I get low usage on streets and lighthouse but higher utlization on small maps like factory and labs.
The lower utilization is from the higher CPU workload on those maps, causing an increased CPU bottleneck. This feeds less work to the GPU, meaning that the CPU is the thing holding back the pipeline. That's why your GPU has less work.
Oh! And thank you so much for the gift sub to the awesome person that did it!
I have a 4080 paired with a 13th gen i5, never have any issues with streets.
as far as i can tell, most optimizations only really give an noticable uplift on low to medium end systems slap me if im wrong tho (coming from guy with high end)
Im really tying to understand with al this how i can get more clockspeeds on my i7 12700h i noticed it doesnt go into boost and stays at 3.2-3.5ghz
Have you checked on your temps? Typically, the clock speeds are lowered when the temperature rises. You can use HWinfo to check on the temps and clock speeds, to see how things are looking. If your temps are higher, you can try slightly undervolting the CPU. I did that on mine, locking it at 1,2V and 4,7GHz. Temps don't go above 60-65C depending on the game.
I swear by dlss with dsr, 5% smoothness too
i have same issue i have 4080 32gb 6000 and i9 13900k with 990 pro m.2 gen 5 and the game looks dog crap and if i have streets button off it maxes ram and gpu ram
I have a 7800x3d and a 7800xt. That enough for about 100 fps on ultra settings on Streets. On 1440p
yep. 79xtx and same cpu. Some places i hit 80 some i hit 120 on streets, but i'm on 3440x1440p. (obviously, ultrwide = lot more pixels)
I think your dsr + dlss fixed my whole game experience
Running 3060ti - 1080p on 90% load and the game looks so much better
Glad to hear it :D
I have a 4090 and intel i9-9900k (i now im cpu bottleneck) 64 gb ram with a samsung g9. Resolution 5120x1440 in tarkov. And im stable on 70-100 fps on every map. Depending on servers
can you make video for AMD gpu's too?
I will be the second I can get my hands on an all AMD system. I want to make Adrenaline guides, PBO guides, the works. Just need to get the hardware when I get some extra funds to spare
@@klemintime1452 yea because I have damn 5000 Georgian lari build and I got stutters on streets while having more than 70 fps lol
I guess u can go X2 Supersampling in tarkov settings with 4090, mine performs with same fps
Yeah, overall though DLDSR can look better, especially with the AA from DLSS. Resampling doesn't allow you to use DLSS with it (and also takes more GPU power to use compared to that combo).
@@klemintime1452 For some reason, I don't have dldsr option in control panel, I think it's cause of 32:9 240hz display, people have same problem with Samsung g9
if you only use 2 ram sticks itrs usally slot 2 and 4 fyi not 1 and 3
Yeah sorry I was thinking of the ones to remove first; that was my bad
The game caches a TON into the OS paging file. I'm running a very old PC, i7 3770, 16gb ram 1333mghz, rtx 2060, samsung 980 pro NVME in a PCI-E adapter. Could not even launch the game at first because of memory usage, but I increased the size of my paging file to like 32GB and now everything works fine. I get consistently around 70-80 fps, but 100+ fps in some areas. I have done a ton of OS optimizations and tweaks, custom tiny version of windows 11, so that is a factor as well. I honestly didn't think tarkov would even work on this PC, because I had worse performance on a much better PC about 5 years ago.
I dont believe you lol
@@kinsgaming8197 lmao, I don't blame you. I built this frankenstein PC assuming that no real gaming would happen on it, but it does fine, no hiccups. samsung 980 pro, new version with heatsink is much better because it does not thermal throttle like the original 980 pro did on release. also the 1TB model, because it did not have the firmware issues that the 2TB model had. 75 dollars used on amazon, pci express to nvme adapter 20 dollars on amazon. The adapter had some nice thermal pads and another heatsink I could stick onto the backside of it. It stays under 40C all of the time, temp never changes, and it's fast as hell even though I'm running it thru older PCI-E 3.0 lanes. That's that shit right there.
looking at this vid im thinking i might also have a problem, im running streets at 60-70 fps with a 4080 and i7 13kf
Eft is the worst optimised game it's hard to get a consistent fps on streets
I have a 4080 13600k and on streets I get 90-120
Lol if I wasn't running on a dinosaur lan line for my Internet I would let you check out mine, it would help 😂
Feel free to post in the help-forum in the discord man, i can always help there too :D
sure thing as soon as i can lol, in the meantime im prob going to call my isp and chew em out lol not really but ask em why they havent got the fiber optic out here they are suppose to do it soon@@klemintime1452
4 sticks of RAM vs. 2 is not per se a negative. Hardware Unboxed has done exhaustive testing on this subject. I believe pyurologie did a vid on this matter as well in tarkov.
4 sticks works just fine.
It just depends on the board and if those sticks and their XMP are having an effect on the rest of the system (if I get that correctly). Luckily his board was CRAZY and likely allowed for him to hit that solid XMP of 4000 Mt/s no problem. I thought 4 sticks would be a problem for a dual-channel board but it defied my expectations lol
i7 9700 with a 2070rtx 16gbs or ram is running rough for me i hope this helps
Ive got pretty much the same setup. I7 9700k, 2070s and 32gb 3600mhz ram. My rig was decent before this patch that they rolled back because of the frame issues everyone experienced but when they rolled it out again saying they “fixed it”, i saw no positive difference only the same negatives. I know the i7 9700k is a bit underpowered now a days but it all comes back to tarkov being poorly optimized considering every other game i run is fine. Tarkov is the only game ive ever played that always seems to vary on performance from raid to raid. First 1-3 raids of the day always run great and then a complete 180 on performance. Even if i clear cache, clear logs, have lasso open, have a clear standby list going, the whole 9 yards of “every” fix possible just doesnt seem to make it feel better. Streets in certain areas of the map are just a death sentence if i get into a fight at those places. If i get to an area that drops me to 40fps, i dont dare ADS cuz i drop to 10-20 frames. Other maps I generally run pretty good at an average of 70-110fps but the slow and noticeable decrease in performance still happens and makes you really question your own hardware being bad or internet being slow etc… your best bet is to get at least 32gb of ram and if you can get the fasted speed possible, get that! Also your ssd speed and size also help hugely if it has a fast speed and is less than 60%full. Hope you find happiness in your endeavor for fps!
I’m running an R9 5900X with 32GB (4x8) 3200MHz CL16 RAM, a 4070Ti, and the game is in my system drive (NVMe SSD) which only has windows and tarkov on it, so it’s nowhere close to being 50% full, let alone more. And the game just runs like shit! 😂 I can run any other title with 0 performance issues whatsoever, yet Tarkov refuses to be stable regardless of settings or any “fixes” I try to apply. The only thing we can hope for is for BSG to actually optimize the game, but I highly doubt it will happen!
@@Varkoroth same ive got a 5600x 32gb 3200mhz and 4070 streets runs bad
Spending 2k on a gpu but going cheap on cpu (250$) is mindblowing to me lmao.
Originally it was a 3090 but (long story short) the company upgraded it to a 4090 for free.
4:25 You mean 2 and 4 🙃
Yep, totally flubbed that one but I made sure he knew off-camera that it was slots 2 and 4.
Hey Klemintime, I currently possess a R5 5600G (PBO), MSI B550M, 32GBDDR4 3600MHz and a RX7600. With that being said I would like to ask 2 things:
1) Whats the supposed FPS should be in streets? (currently when spawning I get around 50-60)
2) When I zoom scope in streets my FPS goes to 35-20, is it normal and is there anything that I could in order to prevent the FPS drop when zooming? I read that when zooming (scoping) the games renders the map 2 times (once in scope and once outside the scope) is this true?
I appreciate your help and what you do to the community, thanks!
I think the scope thing is for everyone and no one can deal with it
It's genuinely just eft.. it's the worst optimised game out there
@@guccl19 they are simply unity enjoyers
Your issue is the 5600G .. what most don't know is that it only has 16MB of L3 Cache which is less then even standard AMD \ Intel.
As example a normal 5600x would have 32mb and the 5800x has 96mb.
The best thing you could do would be to look at getting a 5800x3d or the cheaper but still 8 core option, the 5700x3d. Will your other specs.. you would see a MASSIVE improvement.
Also make sure your running tarkov on med detail with 7600x due to 8gb and I would be running that streets in game option to drop you down to low just for streets.
i made a mistake when i buy 4x16gb ddr5 6000mhz and my fps is worse than 2x16 6000mhz
Why’s that?
Did you enable xmp/expo. 4 sticks is very hard on chip IMC vs 2 sticks
@@cptbluemax1234 i have not enabled xmp. is that better?
4xDDR5 works very bad with AMD. I couldnt't start higher than DDR5-4000 with 4 sticks... Intel should be better in terms of 4 sticks, but still it's a very bad way to go 4 sticks of DDR5. It was usually fine for DDR4 and there were not any issues like with DDR5
@@Kyori0 yeah i have an intel processor and i just upgraded from ddr4, i haven't felt, seen, or ran into any issues so far. im also very ignorant when it comes to all of this
Resampling 2x is better then dldsr i think.
But you can't use DLSS to counteract resampling2x. You can't enable both DLSS and resampling 2x, only one at a time but if you enable DLDSR in NVCP you can also enable DLSS in-game.
u dont need to use dlss with high end cards, only on factory i get like 280 to 200 fps with 2x sampling on. I guess not only 4090 can just 2x tarkov @@inreisen
@@inreisen he doesn't need dlss, he has a 4090, he's not gonna max it out even at 4k ultra with his CPU.
@@yarincool1237 DLSS is not just a resolution scaling, it's also an advanced anti-aliasing which is usually better than TAA (except for ghosting sometimes)
@@Kyori0 yeah I know but it looks blurrier, you don't need it with a 4090 in tarkov.
This dude really has a 4090 with a 1440p monitor and a relativley weak cpu so hes always cpu bottlenecked💀
Yea WTF. Widely unbalanced system.
doesnt change the fact that streets is optimized like shit, especially for a unity engine game made 8 years ago
@@j0hnicideyes and even with the graphics option for streets on, still fails to optimize
@@j0hnicide of course not, it's optimized like s**t indeed.
Mine was 800 and get 50 fps on streets while streaming thanks to all the settings
Much more playable than how some people have it! Glad to hear its helped a bit :)
hi
Hey woods 👋
If you want to have nice FPS in Tarkov DO NOT go above 1080p.
I have a high end pc (7800x3d, 7900xtx, 32gb fast ram, everything watercooled), and hover around 120fps (some places more, some places less obviously). Why? I play 3440x1440.
Streets runs even worse. If anybody reading this, want's to buy a highend pc, buy a high-end pc, and don't go above 1080p.
This is a heavily CPU-bound game even for X3D chips, the resolution has nothing to do with that on streets at least
@@Kyori0 is correct. The resolution will not impact your CPU-bound performance. If anything, playing at a higher resolution will better balance the amount of work the CPU and GPU are doing.
this game is poorly optimized since 2018... always has been, and their 'working method' is this... BSG NEVER tests an update before launch... NEVER EVER... they just release it and boom, let's check how it went
womp womp 😴
this guy is cpu bottlenecked and only cpu bottlenecked, with a 4090 this guy shouldnt have anything less than a 13700k or a 5800x3d. he needs a new cpu if he can afford a 4090.
Tarkov only need good cpu
while this may be true i have a ryzen 7950 (not 3d version) and i still only get 70 frames max, with it going as low as 40 in certain areas, what are you guys doing to get such good fps ive done all the settings ive seen in youtube videos, project lasso seems to have no effect for me either.
@@zachatnca ram speed gave me like 20-30 fps
@@zachatnca so check your RAM and the mghz its running on
@@zachatnca I have a 5800x3d and a 6700xt and get 60+ fps on streets with pretty much max settings besides AO on 1440p. I don't understand your problem. but you made a mistake not getting a x3d AMD chip that v cache is worth it for sure.
BOTTLENECK IN TARKOV
Your V-RAM
12GB of VRAM = 100-130 fps
16GB = 130-240
24GB = 200 -240
If you wanna play tarkov and have a high fps while decent stutter free experience you are going to need a 2k€ graphics card.
And honestly I don’t understand people with an 2k gpu and an 150€ cpu wtf
Edit: I tried tarkov with 4 different cpus only 4% fps differences but as soon as I switched from an 2080 Ti 12GB
To an 4070 TI super 16GB my performance increased 30%
It runs like shit on a 12700k and 4080.
I know, what an awful mismatched combo........
@@cptbluemax1234 12700k with a good overclocked RAM should not be bad