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They even looted the VBS bank with their degrees , oh Africans
Hahahahahahaha
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I own a panel/body shop. I've never ever sprayed a car nor a wheel in my life. I saw a gap in the market, I worked a a cleaner at motor vehicle dealerships; saved up money & bought tools over 2 years. I gambled by hiring a spraypainter & sacrificed my car to be a mobile business. Today about 120 cars run through our panelshop per month even though I've never been to college for it. I taught myself to become an entrepreneur & businessman.
If your head is screwed on properly & you're determined in your goals; that difficult path becomes a remarkable journey. Ask any business owner if they regret their struggles...
Politicians like the majority or employees ONLY sees it as a job; 10am is tea, 1pm is lunch, 5pm they don't answer calls anymore.
You had a video of majority of South Africans being lazy; there my dear, you were spot on!!!!
That is exactly the problem. Laziness. I agree with you in that having a degree is not the ultimate solution.
My point here is simple. If we don't have minimum qualifying criteria we're going to have anyone entering the field. By anyone I mean people with no education at all. People with no common sense at all.
There is the danger of hiring people with qualifications who still don't have common sense but at least they qualified to do something. Add experience in the free market then we might have solid candidates.
There are also people with qualifications through experience. They didn't go to university but they know everything there is to know about farming. That person could definitely be the minister of agriculture.
My main point is we need to have qualifying criteria.
Congratulations on your success running the business by the way. Lots to learn
Congratulations on your business, you seem to have good traits "courage and determination". What you doing though it might give you more money than ministers but it doesn't need you to be extremely intellectual competent, it can not be compared to the sophistication of the ministry of energy, Finance or health for example, in these ministries intellectual competency is extremely needed, look at the best government we have had in the past the cabinet of Thabo Mbeki, it had many highly educated people e.g Trevor Manuel was a chemical engineer and Thabo Mbeki had Master degree in economics from UK and during those days the rand to Dollar was R5, Mbeki paid off all the debts of Apartheid government, you can not be a sophisticated thinker and leader without best education.
✌🏼 Consider yourself an unicorn. Entrepreneurs often possess a unique neurological profile that predisposes them to take risks and withstand significant stress. This profile is rarer than one might think. Their tendency to take risks suggests that their reward system functions differently compared to those in traditional 9-to-5 jobs. It’s one of the deeply frustrating punchlines I hear coming from commentators in SA saying ‘the country needs more entrepreneurs’ - I’m afraid the research suggests that that may not be the solution.
Regarding qualifications for politicians, while an academic degree could serve as a reliable filter, it is important to keep the door open for experienced experts in related fields. The challenge faced by democracies, even in the UK where many politicians are highly educated, is the discouraging influence of the media-both formal and informal. True talent and ability are often deterred by the scrutiny and smearing that comes with political life. The question arises: why would someone choose to become a politician for a relatively modest salary when they could apply their skills elsewhere and earn significantly more, without the associated vitriol directed at politicians and their families? The media and news culture albeit critical for holding power accountable, must take a significant share of the blame for the current state of democracies worldwide.
We need to rethink how we hold politicians accountable whilst making the position of leadership of a country attractive and once again, prestigious.
Terciary qualification does not buy common sence or morality or honesty or leadership
It does if you apply what you learn. But yes some people are just thugs, even with degrees
Amen
With that thinking,Then people should stop complaining about minsters not having qualifications to run complex minsteries.
@@mackyj7801which qualification exactly ?
@@colinpp123 ministry of health.
It is not the papers that do the job. It is the exp.
Fully agree. My long list academic qualifications means nothing against life experience.
Experience goes with papers ... what is the point going to school if experience is more important? You promoting nonsense
How does one get an opportunity to get that experience without the paper you're talking about? Unless if you're privileged to be given such opportunities and we all know majority of people don't get the jobs without the qualifications/papers. To even qualify for a learnership today you need to have some sort of a paper such as a diploma.
@@MegaPieterv That's the difference. Start from the bottom and work and study. No privilege hard work but some people want everything on a tray. Fokken Lui.
I know people who doesn't have boilermaker papers but they perform far better than those who have them, you are correct
It's easy to point out John's lack of a university degree to feel better about yourself but the fact remains that the degreeless John is the leader of the party with the best-run province and municipalities in the country and he did not become the leader by accident
How the DA is today, has nothing to do with John, but everything to do with Hellen and others.
How the DA is today, has nothing to do with John, but everything to do with Hellen and others.
You are also unfair and biased. The presenter is not biased. She criticizes everything and everyone that is worth criticizing, but you want her to exclude white people, because you are biased.
I respect John for his ethics and dedication, but he is very simple-minded, and needs people like Hellen Zille to support him. I don't know much about the other unqualified members of the DA.
@@africaneagle7397Why do you say he is simple-minded?
Common sense and integrity should be none negotiable. Eff members have doctorates. Others in the ANC have degrees. What have they proven? Let's give these guys a break. In the short time they have been in office they have done a lot of good. The proof is there
@@Kai.andEli they dont talk or act likeliterate people. You can have whatever degrees....but if it comes to the end product....CONDUCT AND LIFE PHELOSIPHIES ARE THE MOST VALUABLE DEGREE TO HAVE
Exactly, she has time to talk kak here
@@MR021_This young lady is all about truth and no BS.
Kat, look at Angie Motshekga. She has tertiarty education but was completely incompetent in her role as Minister of Education - a role that she actually had experience AND qualifications for....now the good Lord forbid she is now Minister of Defence! In my trade as a graphic designer, I am completely unqualified with no diplomas, but as I have 30 years working experience in my trade, mostly self-taught, I actually find myself dealing with designers who have university diplomas who cannot even set up a document properly for press. I personally think that our education standards have dipped because tertiary institutions are more focussed on diversity propaganda than teaching the subjects which matter. At the end of the day, meritocracy based on a successful working experience is far more important than any degree.
It seems to me, that the more degrees one has, the less critical thinking and discernment one has. Look at who rushed to get the j&b,,,, the highly educated! The not so educated, we said no thanks. Both my sisters have tertiary education.....neither have "made it" on their own, I have and had 3 successful businesses.... Everything I have, is paid for. I'm 57 and am financially pretty comfortable... They are always broke and battling financially.... and that's with all their degrees in hand... Mmmmm I rest my case.
I'm somewhat torn on this issue. While I don't place a high value on degrees if someone has extensive work experience in the field they'll be managing, I recognize that until recently, degrees were mostly accessible to the wealthy or those entering specific professions. I've observed that only about half of the people I know have degrees. Of those, many pursued degrees that seem pointless, and almost none are working in their field of study, except for the accountants, lawyers, and doctors.
A good example is someone I know who started as a general warehouse worker right out of high school. They now run a large logistics company, having gained real knowledge and understanding of the industry from the bottom up, continually upskilling themselves along the way, yet they do not have a degree.
There needs to be a balance between real-life knowledge and formal degrees.
I feel you
@@PinkClouds3835I just bought you a loudspeaker.
@@lemigiojames3643 😀😂😅
Intellectual elitism and snobbery here, unfortunately. Tertiary education does not automatically make one more competent, and nor does the degree give one integrity. Having certain tertiary qualifications may help, but in the case of ANC and EFF politicians, those degrees were of no benefit to the country and its citizens.
Not having a degree also doesn't turn you into a marvellous pioneer either. Not everybody is a Bill Gates or Zuckerberg.
Have you every stopped to consider how much MORE they would have messed up had they not attained those degrees (and the knowledge that comes with it)?
I would like to also add that we are talking about RELEVANT qualifications here, not Bheki Cele (Qualified teacher) being a minister of police.
@@himynameisjumbo I agree with you. Education is vitally important. The emphasis should be on improving one's skills and knowledge all the time. However, there are many different ways to do that. I studied at three different universities, one in the U.K. and two in SA. Regrettably, I discovered that certain degree courses lacked critical thinking, and instead coercively pushed a particular narrative, which one had to remain faithful to in order to pass and do well. I suspect this is why many graduates today think colonialism was entirely bad without ever seeing the complexities or nuance, and why Helen Zille faced an onslaught for her tweets. The bottom line is that one does not require a university degree in order to be an elected Member of Parliament, and whether one is a matriculant, university graduate or academic, the system does not discriminate. If we move to a system whereby only university degrees count in order to be a politician, then we are excluding a substantial percentage of our citizens and going down an extremely dangerous slope!
Like you say the DA haven't got a degree but they are doing better than the people with degrees.
using common sense and the will to get it done. notleaning back, not returning calls and only wait for the pay check at the end of the month
in other countries every minister has targets.. if they don't make it, or do nothing, they get a motion of no trust and a vote. not because other parties don't like you, but just as a business you are responsible for something. if you don't hold a minister accountable there is no drive for the most who ruled the last 30 years.. look at the municipality. i wait an hour in line, 4 booths open. every citizen to help take hours and when it's my turn 3 of 4 go tolunch for an hour. no manager who controls it, says to someone: you have to be faster etc. your serving the people , not yourself, that mentality has to shift..
Fax
Facts
Eff have qualifications but I don't see how are they using that. They don't have positive impact in parliament except point of order.
Point of order in our COUNTREE😂
I Like that so true .
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Simply arrogant educated fools.. they have been saying they are govt in waiting..but can't even reason enough to set aside differences and be involved in govt and show
... EFF are useless in Parliament... Their behaviour the last 2 weeks has been nothing but clowning around, showboating, racist insuits, disrupting speeches for stupid reasons... What has their "Degrees and qualifications" benefitted them?
Katlego we understood ur point. PA.and DA leaders its true thts their didn't hv high education Mara their are perfect on they duties. And those who has education has been failed us really thts fact we want job done only
The anc failed you...not educated people
Are you saying commitment and will is enough without the knowledge? They are willing and commited alright, but they are failing to get the numbers they need to be effective in govt, and that's where education comes in...if they were educated, they would know how to read the masses, strategise and come up witb a full proof plan to rescue SA, but let's wait and see.
Malema proves that a degree in politics is lower than a matric. For me, attitude is more important so a psychometric test pass is a minimum to being a public servant.
I was pleasantly surprised when Malema took the insults he got for his matric marks & got a degree. Then I heard from students how he paid ppl to do his work write his tests & exams. Ai S.Africa.
@@beewest5704 So what is stopping DA to do the same?
After teaching for 46 years, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of my pupils have enough common sense, integrity and intelligence to make it in live. Degrees have become " cheap" and are mostly useless. My PhD did not bring me anything home - no raise in my salary, no promotion, no perks, not even a "congratulations" from the Education Department. I was very happy in my Matric classes and never had a student who failed.
That's what I find my pride in. Today I am a pensioner struggling to survive on a meagre pension from the state. So much for qualifications!
In S.A unless you are going tonstay in research or tertiary education as a professor PhD is useless.
I can fully relate to your story.My education was not recognised by education department and my pension is to cry for after 38 years in front of çlass.
I think practical experience and common sense is much more valuable than a piece of paper.
As someone who left school at 16 after 12 years I fully agree. Tertiary education was impossible without either parental or state support. When I left employment at 47 I was General Manager of a chemical company. I then opened my own business. I also have 2 healthy, happy, successful children now in their forties. It was an advantage not wasting several years socializing in a Tertiary Institute.
I disagree I don't want a doctors, nurse, elections, pilots, Lawyer, architect, civil engineering without qualifications my life is not up for debate. They are areas where degrees are need and being a Minster or MEC is one of them.
@@kathrynlenz8368 You were privileged then, my father had a furniture manufacturing business in the CBD many years ago, when the group ereas act came into being, he was kicked out by the National Party Government. He had to close his business because the rest of the country had no electricity for people of colour. He was forced to close down his business. He used to supply Lewis stores at the time with furniture. He empowered so many young men from Limpopo. That was sad, but he didn't give up. He was forced to work for someone else, but my mum started a fruit and vegetables business. My brothers today are running their own successful businesses. We were barred from getting loans from banks, but that did not deter us from doing business. The red tape of the National Party Government tried to discourage black people from doing business. Not tenderprenuership as we have today. That is not business.
@@mackyj7801 but we were led by the president who I doubt he even passed grade 3 so
@@pikiedaweti7587 and look at the chaos he's caused
African president have degrees but look at Africa today including south Africa
The other problem is Political Science etc. including various honorary degrees, what exactly does that enable one for aside from the circus our government and their NGO accomplices are now?
True
yes, your president is educated but is the cabinet ?the executors ?the ministry?
Most have the wrong degrees .
Their problem is not lack of education, but lack of ethics. They need both.
Cayton your support under coloured people is undeniable,but let me tell you all,his supports under whites are picking up,his brutal honesty are going to make him hugely popular under all South Africans.We are all tired of race mudslinging,need a candidate which can represent all of us,regardless off colour.
@@FrancoisSauer-ys3qc it's Gayton. Undeniably true! He's changing South Africa bit by bit. Became a huge fan of Minister Gayton Mc Kenzie. Honesty is top priority. He's got what it takes for sure!
Academic snobbery if you do not have a degree you are nothing, what a load of rubbish.
You are being dismissive, take a minute and think about it. Even becoming a security guard needs matric. Having an education shows discipline, motivation, hard work among other qualities. How can you govern the country with no fundamentals. We have councillors who can't even send emails, how do you expect them to run a ward... Education is not everything but if you want to run a country, you need to learn (education) how to do it effectively
Look as a self-taught programmer in a High position, I can appreciate the sentiment, but truth be told it took years of working for peanuts just to get experience etc. before I was anywhere near ready for the current kind of programming I do. If you are going to be in a position of power without credentials, you, like me, need at least a good record of actual accomplishments in the field.
Don't use your lack of accomplishment to expose your misplaced jealousy/insecurity.
Imagine if everyone were to think pedestrianly like you, the world would be a mess, full of uneducated unstructured people trying to survive 🤷♂️🤔
😂😂😂😂 Reading some whites comments here got me on my knees😂😂😂😂😂
Kyk hoe lyk suid afrika vandag van qualifications wat n joke hoe slim was dit
Gayton has proved that what you condemn as criminals, can do better once given a chance and confidence by society. Look at what he did within 100 days of his mayorship in the Klein Karoo. No other leader in the whole of Africa with degrees has done that. Especially donating his entire salary. The bucket toilet system that those with degrees failed to get rid of, the creation of 100s employment opportunity. Sister, Gayton is special. Mintiro ya bolabola.
I like and admire citizens concerned lady but on Gayton issue it's commendable How he has turned his life around written books has businesses has a heart especially for the Have Nots as he understands that very well by his own experience. Please let's not keep bringing up his past his done his time, his asked for forgiveness numerous times his turned his life around but when oeople keep bringing his past which he has paid for please this needs to stop encourage the man not keeping on discouraging him. How many politicians care for the poor nd less fortunate. At least Gayton has a heart. Maybe the very Highly educated are better at bending things food 4 thought.
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What about Nelson Mandela? He was a criminal by the definition given by international standards. He changed too, I do believe that people can change
@@tombimashri8149you said it all
@@kyleerasmus7179yoh yoh please don't bring people who were arrested under Apartied laws in on this 90% of the reason Mandela was jailed was of his skill colour which never changed when he became president 😂.
Are you sure that Malema personally studied for those degrees? We all know how corrupt our system is in Mzansi. I personally doubt it. Ndlozi, yes.
Hatred aside, Malema is studying and making education fashionable in our lifetime.
show me where they studied and when...and what they got diplomas for...BS
@@vutivimbhenyane2580 the question is; WHEN, and WHERE?
Mugba of Zimbabwe have so many degrees but look at Zimbabwe today nonsense of African degrees.
Earning a degree is different to being given a degree, mugbob dint earn his multiple degrees, he was a doctor of death
@@5801160052086he actually did study. He earned lots of them but also got many honorary doctorates. When he started his nonsense the honorary ones were stripped but he still had his genuine earned ones e.g the law one, the economics one and the education one. Unfortunately they weren’t of much use.
But was just given to him
It takes character, capability, competence and courage to be an effective public servant in our country. A diploma or degree don’t guarantee these things. Track record and ability count the most. In the DA its members have to move up in their organisation and can’t do so if you don’t prove their abilities. Can you do the job properly, that’s what counts the most.
and yet ANC with all their degrees and masters look how far it got our country...
The hate towards Gayton Mckenzie by you are so real.Ive listen to you for awhile now.Look at the educated politicians what have they done or emplemented??? I personally don't care about some of the politicians but give credit where credit is due.The love for your country and legal South Africans should come first.
The only test we need is to give all politicians a performance audit after a year. All non-performers must then be replaced. At the same time there must also be an audit on all alleged degrees obtained. We have allegations of degrees sold at UNISA, Fort Hare and University of the North. The party with the most degrees did not even start building the promised school. Results must be the preferred outcome nothing more nothing less.
Sorry. Wrong criteria. John Steenhuizen, for instance, has a matriculation and the character needed for office. He works hard, has integrity, and really cares about discharging his responsibilities to the benefit of the country. To disparage him publicly like this because he did not have your opportunity to get tertiary education is shameful. Don't abuse your platform and your many capable viewers who preferred to get on with life or had no choice but to do so. Many highly successful business people didn't even finish school!!! Add to this, the mindset promulgated by modern education today is not conducive to entrepreneurship but to merely getting a JOB.... just over broke. Business schools and universities are full of lecturers who have never even tried to start a business. Education at these institutions can often kill initiative and creativity. Go read the book RICH DAD POOR DAD by Robert Kyosaki.
Absolutely spot on!!! Some think we, the not so highly educated, are offended or jealous... Man, that couldn't be further from fact... I would hate to be SO properly indoctrinated.. Plus, not everyone is a scholar.... I was not, and have been very successful and ran 3 businesses over the past 38 years... At 57, I'm financially pretty comfy. Unlike friends and family, who have a string of degrees... they're always broke and battling financially....
Would be great if folks who decide to become politicians have economics and management qualifications.
My husband had to get his doctorate and have multiple publications and experience to become a professor...
EXACTLY! Helen you know what... You get me!😂
@@helenduplessis4166 management qualification,do not think that translates to being a leader and obviously the ministers will have qualified people in their departments ? you cannot study to be a minister or a leader
I think you missed the boat with this one. Ability to do the job is far superior to any paper qualification. A degree is not a practiced trade. This video is devisive.
Morning Katlego, thanks for the video. Considdering the amount of doctorates and master degrees within the ANC, it is clear that a degree does not promise competence. Sadly I have also seen this within the private sector, where someone that is hard working, well disciplined and has work ethic trumps a person with degree any day of the week. This does not mean I don't agree with your view, I just want to point out that a tertiary degree on its own is not a guarantee of what one can expect, that said nothing stops these politicians from persueing a qualification now, in fact it would be a testement to their commitment within the roles they find themselves in. Just my 2c. Have a great day and thanks again for your videos, it is always exciting when a new one comes out. Stay safe and keep up the good work.
well spoken
.aybe those degrees were bought, who knows ? Most politicians in ANCEFF have so - called degrees, but they cannot even apply common sense. Degrees are not worth the paper it is written on if you are corrupt, arrogant, and incompetent
Pls also AGE RESTRICTIONS. JUST LIKE ALL PROFESSIONALS 65 PERIOD. SOME DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO READ.
😂❤ so true
I totally agree.... 65 should be a retirement age even for politicians...
The thing that trumps a dgree or diploma is 30 years plus of actual work experience
There is no formal political qualification except practical experience.
Well at 30% pass mark how can we get accountability - they can't count!!!
A high school diploma is better than a PhD in political science
@@ezekick So spot on. The architect of Apartheid, Hendrik Verwoerd, had a PhD in Sociology. Just look at how his ideology shaped the political and social landscape of South Africa. Then look at the EFF's Dr Ndlozi, what a disaster he would be for SA's economy, especially with his Marxist mindset.
Or philosophy... or human studies
@@ezekick not if those educated are criminals.
@@ezekick That is why they wanted finance department, always after money
Stop lying
I used to like education until I realised that some people just go to university to float around, copy, plagiarise and get a degree with a marginal pass.
Once we enter the workforce a degree is a degree, even though we know some struggled or went to questionable institutions. All that matters now is bootlicking and having a loud mouth, or looking good especially for ladies.
But then again most degrees are just a piece of paper and in certain fields it doesnt prepare you for the workplace more than someone that had handson experience
ANC will one day have a foreigner as a president
Because doing the right thing and sensible things for South Africas requires oxygen to your brain and not a tertiary education. You dont need a degree to do the job. You need a brain, experience and a support structure. None of that the ANC, MK or EFF has.
Yeah that's a bad excuse. We need to have standards. The fact that we like the DA does not mean they should not have standards. Do you think it's ok for councillors who don't know how to use laptop
Imagine hearing a doctor say this just before operating on your child.😂
@himynameisjumbo yet we have anc and eff members with degrees. That is proof enough that even stupid people have degrees.
@@himynameisjumboa pilot saying that just after take off😂😂😂
@@himynameisjumbothis is entirely different
We also don’t want foreigners working in any space in government. I see a lot of People from India , Zimbabwe, China working in government under various roles. How is that even possible.
China? 😮
"@kingkayfabe5358 When I refer to 'foreigners,' I'm speaking of those who recently arrived and secured citizenship through corrupt means. In contrast, the Indians and Chinese who have been here since the 1800s are no longer just Indian or Chinese-they are African. Their bodies have been nurtured and grown from African soil over generations. Their DNA has evolved and intertwined with the essence of this land, making them purely and intrinsically African, indistinguishable from anyone else born from this soil."
@@lifes_magic_moments, I respectfully have to call that utter nonsense. Those people are still Indian and Chinese irrespective of how long they've been here. If I moved to Europe today, my future generations will know that they're South African and not European even if they were to be naturalised. Their essence will, and forever remain, South African.
@@teem7303 I hear you. But I choose to accept an anti change agnostic thought process. Besides the look and belief structure similarities.Culturally they/we are uniquely South African and different to where we all came from. This must be acknowledged and accepted
I have Gr 10 myself, but other qualifications aswell. I have learned work experience, common sense and being able to complete the work properly has more value then a piece of paper. To be competent doesnt mean you need qualifications, it means you need to proof that your able
Mugabe with his zillion tertiary degrees manage to collapse flat! Zimbabwe economy and today Zimbabweans are eating sour fruits of that.
You really think he studied for those? 😂😂😂😂
🎉You're spot on. When the ANC seriously examines the reasons for its demise, two will stand out. The first is their failure to purge themselves of those of dubious character and questionable pedigree. Strangely, it became a norm to regard vice as a virtue.
The second is their disdain for education. "Clever Blacks" was less a compliment than a curse. This has contributed to the growing indifference to education in the black community.
The point about Gayton is a fair one. He is loved and adored by many. The question we should be asking ourselves is: Should we be making rules to accommodate the exception or not? We can easily find the answer to that by looking at the tragic history of the ANC.
Give us Barabas !!! We can’t handle the truth!
Inkatha promoted education before liberation.
ANC promoted liberation before education.
Enforced with a necklace
Even me as a security guard at the gate I wouldn't have qualified with the criminal record. How much more the minister
Laws are only applicable to the poor & powerless that's why a security cannot work with a criminal record but if he is rich & connected he can be Minister of Security.
A piece of paper is worthless... being a PATRIOT is more important! To be a good politician you need to be patriotic, honest and hard working.... let me ask you this... would you rather have Floyd Shivambo who has a degree... or just John Steenhuizen with his matric ? ... that itself should destroy your entire argument here... a piece of paper means NOTHING!
I agree. I do hope that McKenzie does a good job....but I see what the PA has done in local government in areas that they control. However, there are people in this country...with no professional qualifications, who are very successful.
Exactly. Many many people. I know many personally. In government it's hard to make sure that people deliver without the candidates meeting minimum requirements for members of parliament
Years back in my university years,one of the courses I studied was Comparative education. President Julius Nyerere's model of edu.is still stuck in my mind even today.They encouraged their learners to be self- reliant.Not only tertiary edu.was emphasized but communities were involved in the education of children. Outstanding citizens were identified, self taught Mechanic,for example,will mentor kids who show interest in that field,who for some other reasons cannot afford further education or simply lack interest in books but have insight in that particular field, my point is,if a person is naturally gifted,he /she will surround himself/herself with experts to complement what he naturally knows.If people in leadership positions can develop, concise,it will remind them that they should account to the nation at the end of the day and strive to be excellent like Oom Piet,as well as Gayton.
However we should not dismiss the fact that Education goes a long way.❤
Sorry Kat, with this one I just don't agree. I believe that practical experience is much more important than having diplomas and degrees. Especially when it comes to aspects like arts, design and politics. If one has qualifications then it might help you get the job quicker but without practical experience you are nothing. I have only a diploma and far outshine and perform post doctorate individuals in my field. I do however believe that certain categories like doctors, engineers, lawyers and so on it are vital to have your degree and post graduate degrees. I think in many environments your ability to take action and integrity is much more important. You can have doctors degrees like some of those EFF thugs but practically don't implement anything that you have learnt.
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Poor girl is born in S.A but guess South Africans do not want her as their ambassador which is the biggest role Miss SA fulfill.
We have a mayor in the City of Johannesburg. This as a result of an agreement between the ANC and EFF agreement. We are tired of this nonsense. They 2 parties are pulling the strings behind the scenes.
The Mayor should have at a degree, not even have a matric.
@hildadavids217 and the same standard should be applied to a leader of a political party like John Steenhuisen
He aspires to lead an entire nation not just a city
The car guard mayor😂😂😂😂
City of Joburg have this agreement, coz they hiding skeletons for billions of corruption of the years. They don't want any other Party to lead and expose them there, it's rotten.
@@katlimoagi Yes, you are correct, it should apply to everyone.
1st they shouldn't be corrupt.
The biggest fast is education, education does not teach common sense. Some of the most capable people did not have so-called tertiary education.
This problem started because in 1994 the ANC had too few people experienced and educated but NEEDED politicians to fill cabinet posts!!
Who is doing the better job?
Politicians should get a pay cut first and be forced to live in the communities they serve, in middle classes. Education can breed ignorance and arrogance.
Eff, all educated and corrupt. Here i disagree
Appointing someone with no criminal record became a taboo when thr ANC got into power. At one time it looked like the bigger your criminal record the higher your chances are to be employed; you were a skilled SA rainbow citizen.
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At least 50% or 60% pass rate for matric.
Agree, u must be a citizen.
Sometimes experience can be more valuable than a diploma
Yes that's true. But why were people saying it about Julius and his carpentry. When it was Julius it was ok. When it's Jacob Zuma it's ok. But when it's the parties that we like we say it's fine
I wrote a comment, edited it, and deleted it to get some peace on this matter. SA is not in a place where tertiary education should be the benchmark right now because it would exclude the majority. Tertiary education is often for the privileged and/ or not relevant to the unique problems we face. Many skills required have no tertiary equivalent.
For me, relevance and a willingness to embark on continuous education should be criteria we are looking for, as well as morality, honesty and a character of wanting to serve the people. Ubuntu and forgiveness must hold sway because of how the past has affected us all. But basic education, reading, writing, language skills and computer skills must be there for a start; it is clear for many of our politicians that is not the case.
As for ex-prisoners, I am not sure the constitution would allow time served to be translated into a life punishment; yes I know trust relationships have been damaged but we must give people a change to reform as perhaps Gayton is demonstrating. Some will never trust him again, but we all live with a past.
Am not sure if I do agree with you in this matter; do you know how educated Basotho politicians and government officials are or Basotho in general but look where we currently are as a country. Still behaving like stone age people.
The ANC has lowered standards significantly in every single aspect of government eith their love of money, fraud and corruption
Sorry your reasoning is flawed, if the person is doing a good honest job in parliament. Why make a big deal about having a higher education?
Cadre deployment is destroying civil service 😢
I understand about the importance of qualifications, but like you pointed out. In a country where qualifications can be bought, how useful are they?
There's so many people who buy others to do their exams in university
How is that person going to work
I guess all one needs is the gift of the gab even if you’re brainless. While our kids are struggling and working their way through university for no job opportunities.
About time our Politicians have a sound academic qualification and a clean criminal record - would seem like the logical conclusion however…😓I think we need to have the leader’s claiming qualifications academically tested for the “degrees” they suddenly possess - I doubt they will pass the basics!!!
A degree is not the be all. I've met some people who are educated but have no common sense, and experience can also count. The reason people ridiculed Jujus because of our dismal his results were in school.
Do you not see something wrong with that? Why laugh at juju and not hold the same standard for John steen
No, we ridicule juju because he clings to commie ideals from the 1800's
Oh my Gosh, how can you even compare Steenhuisen with Malema? Listen to their word selection , their grammar, their reasoning powers, their honesty, their integrity, their conduct, their manners??? It Is a NO BRAINER!!! Don't let stupid black and white come into play here, but common sense! There are ministers who can't even speak properly, Gayton being One of them, BUT, he gets the job done as apposed to all those dumb corrupt people who are in positions just because of BEE...
julius behave like a savage....open borders...and stealing from the poor...
And thats with a degree..
@@WokeDetection simple answer is because Joojoo failed woodwork
Go K....keep talking the truth!❤
💯% in agreement with you.
Thank you Adele😊
@katlimoagi
You are such a precious lady and human being.
I have immense respect for you.
Have a blessed day
Y'all need referendums, where the citizenry actually votes on issues.
You can have anything that you want in life without tertiary education! sometimes even be able to apply tertiary eduction without actualy acquiring through uni.
Even the greatest minds make mistakes Katlego I highly agree to disagree with you on this one EFF and ANC have failed dismally where the unqualified have done tremendously well with the citizenship of a person definitely need to be super vigilant on that as a country
Katlego, the EFF is possibly the worst example in this instance. Judging by their negative behaviors in parliament, their education is not a plus. I am yet to see any positive contributions made by EFF in parliament. They are a destructive force...
Hi Katlego. Thank you once again for a super informed discussion this morning.
My comment this morning is that we have employed people in the last few years who have diplomas and tertiary qualifications but still could not comprehend basic concepts. For instance, they have accounting on the certificate and passed it, but could not explain VAT to me or why we pay VAT.
I blaim tertiary institutions as well for lowering the barr just to push through thousands of students but not really equipoing them for the real world. Just pocket the fees and send them out to find jobs.
In SA, at the moment, a diploma or degree (Legit) can also be worthless.
I must agree. This is a joke. Now you can understand why they have so many deputies and assistants.
Kwaaaaaaaaa kwaaaaaaaaa kwaaaaaaaaa kwaaaaaaaaa kwaaaaaaaaa to be a President you don't have to know what you are doing 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 but to be a doctor you have to be Highly educated , eish SA constitution , Thanks Katli you really mean a lot to our Lives daily , 😢we wish to have you almostly daily if that's possible.
Unfortunately a president was set when all the ministers of the anc all came from Robin Island, so now it's the norm,,if you don't have a prison record you can't be in politics
Skills and experience is more important than "bought" qualifications; integrity and how to balance the books are of great importance
100% if you are wanting to run the country show us your constantly doing better by raising your qualifications and using what you have learnt to better the country
For the finance depts. We need auditors and accountants. For engineering departments we need engineers. For water works etc we need the people with knowledge and common sense to be in charge
God Institute the law, God himself appoint governors,kings,stewards to look after the working class and give skills and God himself hold them accountable. So it is written in the Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.
Your channel can't grow fast enough Kat. I pray that you grow exponentially so that your wisdom and sharp analysis can reach millions of people in this country.
That youngster regarded as Miss South Africa 🇿🇦 , she cannot represent our Country she's not a South African in Full , she was done a favor to aquire our Green Barcoded ID , she was only born in South Africa , she was Not Born by Both South African born afield 😢. She's half Nigerian half Mozambique decendant.
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Good morning Katli. This is really sad, BUT TRUE! Our government is collapsing. We can say goodbye to democracy!!!
And yet Hlope is highly educated but is morally bankrupt.
You get two different types of people, thous who write the textbooks and thous who read the textbooks. Education doesn’t worry me, more about someones track records.
I 100% agree with you Kat, this is slowly becoming an unpleasant norm. People in these positions must sacrifice and get some qualification.Studying is not easy😢.
Sad how graduates are either mopping floors at McDolands or unemployed when matriculants are earning millions on the backs of Taxpayers.
There must be a minimum qualification standards.
@@hildadavids217 why is high school not sufficient?
We've HAD a president, who's never been to highschool... How TF ?
When I was in Matric the pass percentage was 50% and now it is 30% I've had a business for 27 years. It depends on what kind of Matric
Let use prayer for a beter South Afrika
We Vote for them
Now let use prayer for then
God is still in power and He will always be
I prayer that God must please please those the rigth people
People that will stop South Afrika from War Teriost and curraption
Just prayer to the Lord all Mighty to help this people
Amen
Sometimes the wolf makes a better flock guardian than the shepherd. It knows what to expect from other wolves.
😂 so true. I like how you said sometimes. That's true
Hi Katlego,
I happen to stumble upon your CC and I must say you journalistic delivery is on point I just hope that one day you not gonna be censored and end up being scripted.
I admire how your speak your mind without any fear or favour. I wish you and your team the very best in your future endeavours 🚀🎉💕
I love your program but due to my experience I had no education yet I got a lucky break and I became a secretary of three bosses at Anglo America. I then at the age of 45 went back to school, yet it did not improve my life. The DA proved that they are good at running a province
So a piece of paper is more important than actual capacity? Anyone can buy a degree with the right amount of money. Those who can't do teach... Criminal record means nothing, the entire parliament is full of them. We have the right to elect a leader, never to select one. Let that sink in. Smoke and mirrors.
Is that what she said?
@@WokeDetection in a nutshell, yes.
Yes, it sank in. We have a right to elect but none to select😢
With all due respect - our "education" is beyond useless. I spent most of my mothering time correcting so called "teachers" who didn't have a clue what they're doing. I left school in Standard 7 and my language skills are way above our university degree so-called "teachers" . A piece of paper in this country is worth less than toilet paper. I am snapped up by attorneys, advocates and Judges - whose English I correct regularly. Only one of my three kids has a Matric, yet the two who left in Grade 10 earn far more than my matriculant. Our Matric is a joke. Far more important are skills. The ANC destroyed our education - the one thing our Black politicians hate is real skill. One of my kids works in a butcher and the other is a hairdresser. During apartheid we were given aptitude tests on the first day of high school. From those tests people were put in different classes. Some were put in Latin/Languages (German and Latin where I ended up and hated) but we had no choice and others did cooking, baking, mechanics, dress making, etc. But the ANC were clearly "offended" by that and everyone wanted to be doctors or lawyers - with zero natural talent for it. That's why we now sit with bad professionals who have zero talent and it's killed the country. Arrogance and entitlement have destroyed real talent. Not ONE of the kids threw a tantrum and demaaaanded to be CEO's. Talent is number one and every one of the kids not in the A class was 😊employed - they made fabulous things that they could earn a good income from. Arrogance, entitlement and hatred destroyed our education. The arguments I had with stupid, arrogant so-called teachers about incorrect grammar was a daily thing. Didn't know a verb from a noun. Arrogance has left kids in no man's land. My Standard 7 education has kept me employed every day from 16 to 63. Every. Day. Bring back the school system that made it possible.
exactly go with your phd from here to another country and see how good it is 🤣... with that low pass rate with it you don't find a job in europe. in europe we need welders elektricians etc..and they will earn more then a phd from some university
They should compile a list of all public officials without qualifications and post it publicly. So we the people can see who they are. Following that, in order to proceed in their positions they need to enroll in tertiary education to get the qualification. If not they cannot have the job. Experience in that position should be a factor as well. We grew up being hounded to get degrees and the people running the country are not held to the same standard. Jokes. We’ll take our degrees and move overseas where they count.
Yeah you were told a lie ,tell me how does a random degree help with running a nation ?
Good point! People need to pass a higher standard of qualification before applying for these positions that require such a high level of responsibility.
You trying to tell me that the DA don't know what they doing? Just because they only have a mastic😂😂😂
Well said.....the education system however needs to be revamped. Currently people who hold degrees and diplomas simply have no skills and most cannot even apply themselves.....but yes ministers and politicians must hold a worthy tertiary qualification
I am divided on this, On the one hand Mazone and Steenhuizen may not have "qualifications" yet they do very well in their positions, on the flip side we see eff with "qualifications", however they got them and they show no capacity for being able to run a country.
Never confuse education with intelligence. So far Ministers Gayton Mc Kenzie and Pieter Groenewald proved to be highly competent.