This Is Causing CHILDREN to Turn Away From God | Ken Ham
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- This is causing CHILDREN to turn away from God. In this video, Ken Ham discusses a survey that revealed Christian education to be failing and shares what we can do to change this trend among today’s children.
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"The father in particular " is the most important line in this video.
1. Every child learns differently. 2. Sunday school/ Children's church can be helpful and a blessing. 3. Parents are responsible for training their children. If Parents were faithful to church and bringing their children to church, as well as, living a Christian life outside of the church; I truly believe, we all would see a difference.
All true but the outcomes to date are dreadful. That’s what this is discussing. No doubt SS is a sincere attempt to build a foundation on Christ. But some leaders are not “called” as teachers and in some cases keep house. These times we live in are desperate times and the falling away is prophesied! Pray pray pray!
Training children in religion is control let them grow up and make their own decision. Why should anyone be forced to believe in AGod
When I was growing up Sunday school was before worship service. After Sunday school we attended worship with our family.
Was the opposite for me.
Too young to think for yourself.
@@Moist._Robot Im clearly older than you, physically and mentally.
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Do you actually believe the Noah’s flood story?
@@Moist._Robot I sure do. Do you actually believe that mountain ranges were created by continents "nudging" each other at the rate of speed that a fingernail grows? And that the SEDIMENTARY layers in the Geologic column are explained by nothing more than deep time?
Weʼre not just losing them with hypocritical teaching. Hypocritical living is a huge factor as well.
I had a crisis of faith as a teen, and it had nothing to do with doctrine. I never even doubted Godʼs existence. My issue was, if God was anything like my parents -who were active, prominent churchgoers, but tyrants at home - i wanted nothing to do with Him.
Leslie, how are you doing now?
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Thru my searching, God revealed Himself to be nothing like them.
That was the beginning of my real Christian walk. (I was a churchgoer before that, but not a real Christian.)
It's not Sunday School that's failing these children, it's the parents. If the parents are not living Godly lives in the home as well as away from home, the children witness it and are not persuaded to believe that believing in Jesus Christ makes any difference whatsoever. Why would they want to give their time, energy, and money to a church and a God that appears to be unable to change lives and apparently loves unconditionally and is indifferent toward our sin. Jesus Christ must be first in our lives, in our homes, and in every single aspect of our lives if we expect our children to desire Him to be first in their lives, period. Christ is all, and in all. Colossians 3:11
Amen! Truth! Parents are their children’s first teachers. ❤️
To true and it is parents as you say, not just the fathers, who should be teaching
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I met 2 people at work who disbelieve bc of argumento adults had in ss about veracity of Scripture. They were both catholic
Amen and amen, preach it!
My children rarely get sent to Sunday school when church is gathering. Family worship is essential in this time. People have to stop depending on others for the responsibility God commands parents to do.
Your children are going to leave your cult.
@@Bc232klm And join the Darwinian Cult like you?
@@Bc232klm Hello there 👋. Can I ask you what do you think happens after we die? And do you believe in God?
@@Bc232klm Christianity is not a cult. I encourage you to read the Gospel of John in the New Testament with a humble attitude and discover the truth for yourself. Climate change is a cult. The New Age movement is a cult. Believing in evolution is a lie. Believing that all religions are the same and that therefore everyone goes to heaven is also a lie. Yes, there are many cults, false religions and deceptions in this world but the truth never changes. That’s why Jesus tells us in John 14:6, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Of course, what Jesus teaches isn’t popular but what is popular isn’t always right and what is right isn’t always popular. Only when you realize how massive the deception really is can you open your heart to the truth. Only when you realize that your secular science books are full of lies and that the media is full of propaganda can you ever have the humility and courage to turn to Jesus. No wonder that Jesus warns us in Matthew 24:4, “Take head, that no one deceives you.” That’s really good advice for the days we live in right now.
Amen! Parents are their children’s first teachers. And it’s always a beautiful thing to see parents taking responsibility for their children’s Christian education.
WOW! Bro Ken, as a Sunday School kid who is now a grandmother, one of your final comments really hit home…the Church has not prepared us to share and defend the Gospel. I still struggle with how to do this, I have learned I have to trust the Holy Spirit to lead me and guide me in sharing the Gospel.
I would add, STUDY to show yourself approved, a workman that need not be ashamed… you must be intentional to prepare yourself to share, AND pray for the Holy Spirit to give life to the words that the hearer may hear
Same here. I’m only 21, but I’m also struggling with how to share and defend the gospel. I still have much to learn, so I can only be diligent, study, and wait for God’s appointed time. It’s honestly frustrating and worrying to me cuz idk if I’m just being lazy; I can only stick through and do what I must
@@valeriegoldstein3483l must add that STUDY is what exposes the fake claims within the bible. Most of us walk away _because_ we've studied more than the average Christian. It's all based on mythology.
@@QuestionThingsUseLogic That's wild to me, because the more I study, the more I see God's truth in science, history, sociology, psychology, nature mathematics, etc--and the stronger my faith becomes.
@@cheryllwaldrop9732 interesting. But why does science not back the claims in the bible? Why does geology not back the claims? Nor history? Or why is the archaeological evidence not there for the claims of an 'exodus'? In fact the empty room dedicated to it is because both countries involved state it never happened. Why no evidence of Herod unaliving the babies in Bethlehem? And it goes on and on...Just curious how much research you have done. Btw, l set out to prove the bible was true but discovered the opposite 😮 not what l expected! Heard of r0n wiatt being a fr.aud?
Deuteronomy 6:6-7. There is no replacement for parents, especially fathers, teaching their children God's Word.
Sadly, it seems few men are the spiritual leaders of their families.
And even more impossible with such a high divorce rate.
So many Sunday school leaders nowadays focus on fun- fun songs, fun games, fun activities, fun, fun, fun…
Childhood indoctrination is the only way the church survives.
While it may be addressed in the book he is talking about, another facet that many times is not being considered is what these children are being exposed to online. When Billie Eilish ( a non-believer ) talks about how at 11 years old she was exposed to online pornography and it messed her up, we need to be policing children's online access.
If you are a Christian...why are you listening to Billie Eilish? Maybe someone should be "policing" your online access.
No. We need to be honest, approachable and trustworthy parents. Our children WILL be exposed to the world, that's where God put us. They need to be disturbed, as we do, enough to cry out to the loving God WE have taught them about and seek out what He would have them DO with and in the messed up world that so needs pure children of faith in Christ. If we lead well, they will not fall utterly, because it won't just be us they are stayed upon. They will have unshakable faith in the face of the unthinkable.
Both of you are almost there. Yes, they WILL be exposed to the world. But do we sit back and say oh well? Do we LET them be exposed so they can be “disturbed”? Absolutely not. Teach them the gospel and christian values first and foremost. Teach them that the world is different than us and use scripture. Then put measures in place so they don’t wander from that. If they choose to wander as an adult, that is their choice and you cannot do anything about that except pray at that point. But when they are children, if you are purposely exposing children to the wickedness of the world, that is wrong. Plant a flower with fertilizer, diet, water and sunshine to grow. Not weeds and darkness just because they may encounter a weed and a shadow from time to time.
@@AMcDub0708 Yes! Sorry, I did not mean to imply that we stand by. Not at all. That's why I love Answers in Genisis, who have provided wonderful resources for our proactive parenting. Shalom.
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"Sunday school" at mega churches, in my experience, was nothing more than "Chucky Cheese" for teenagers, complete with pool tables, arcade machines, snacks, foosball, and a basketball court. Don't forget the rockin' band for "worship time", aka emotional manipulation.
The younger kids had puppet shows and games for sure, and were even encouraged to give "tithes and offerings". It was all designed to keep them entertained rather than teach any meaningful truths.
Of course, they also taught that God made cavemen and dinosaurs billions of years BEFORE Genesis 1:1 and that He had to erase everything and start over with Adam. As if God was so weak and stupid to do anything like a "trial run" in the first place.
This sounds like a home problem. Parents should always take their kids' temperatures to make sure a cooling isn't taking place.
When I used to attend a church with children's ministry (now attend family integrated church) and served there, I was heartbroken to witness how the gospel was being taught. The reverence for the Word was absent. It was 90% preschool activities such as coloring and games. Let me not forget the children's altar call to wrap things up. Already gone, indeed. 😢 The children NEED to be with the flock, protected, hearing the Word, and being shown what worship is.
I had wonderful experiences in Sunday School, however, by the time I was a young adult, the curriculum had been "dumbed down" and visuals looked like cartoon figures instead of the beautiful "real people" pictures/flannel graph of days past. We learned memory verses and the Gospel from an early age. And children were expected to sit quietly in church service at around 7 years old, when they aged out of Junior Church. The thing I remember is worship time where we learned Gospel songs verses. We called it "Opening Exercises" and all of the children gathered for this with prayer and singing. I treasure these memories to this day and feel my own children and grandchildren have missed out on these very important and concentrated gospel sessions we called Sunday School. It is worship content, organization, and focused "real"memory work, prayer and applicable Bible teaching that is missing today. I am amazed at some mainline Churches wandering off into allegorizing Genesis and Revelation. This is what is destroying the future generations. If the Church doesn't believe in the literal WORD, why should they?
Exactly! Turning the Bible in to cartoons, no different than any fictional Disney movies, has blurred the line between reality and fantasy. As soon as kids figure the Disney princesses and Marvel superheroes are not real, they naturally assume the Bible stories aren't real either. Who can blame them? It's only logical.
So much more competition now as well. 50 years ago you went to church and that is all you know. Now with the internet you can get online and read about mormonism, scientology, reikka healing, tarot card readers, etc.
Did the survey reveal exactly what it was about Sunday School programmes that was so off-putting? It would be difficult to come up with something "better" without knowing exactly what the problem was.
I remember my 5th grade teacher encouraging me to rebel against my parents. I did. That was around 1971.
Now there’s a story that needs some context!
Pray for revival -- for a genuine turning to God's truth as revealed in the Scriptures.
You pray and pray and pray... and yet church rates keep declining. Hmmm 🤔
"God's truth" is a hideous idea used to manipulate the gullible.
I agree with the comments that biblical teaching should begin at home with the father. I learnt this about 10 years ago through Paul Washer, but unfortunately, my children had already reached adulthood. My husband doesn't want that responsibility. This needs to be taught to the men in churches for them to teach and be role models to their children.
Children should be sitting in church service! They will grow up with better understanding of Christ and the workings of God. IMO.
We call that getting brainwashed.
I agree! That's the way it was done in previous generations, until around the mid 1900s.
Depends on the teaching. Too many preachers are not Bible Believing. Early chapters of Genesis and all Revelation are never taught
Are you confusing Children's Church with Sunday School?
@@willp.8120 What's children's church? Run by children? Children doing a take over of church?
I think you Ken make a very good job. God bless you ✨🙏
My own family has fallen away and it breaks my heart.
So sorry pray for them
I lift your family in prayer to return to, or find Christ. God bless.
@@joinjen3854 Bless you!
Why does it break your heart????
@@jonascraig3113 Hellfire awaits all who do not repent in Christ Jesus.
Our church is full of children of all ages from babies in arms upwards, during the actual service.
There is a short period of activities afternoon when children do things like colouring pictures. They don't seem to mind. They are not pressured.
Sunday School is at best 40 minutes once per week. I was a Pastor for many years. While certainly there are good and bad SS teachers, as well as good and bad SS curriculum. They survey mentioned here is very misleading. The real reason is this .. Parents who do not live and teach Biblical principles to their children at home and in their daily lives. Yes this was briefly mentioned later in Ken's video, but he continues to blame the SS for the problem. Second, is the culture in America is more and more secular and anti-Biblical - we see this in modern music, video games, movies, school curriculum and even government. It appears Ken is using a straw man argument with his survey to promote his book and his curriculum. Now maybe Ken's book and curriculum are good materials - if so, just promote them on their own merits.
A very good post. As St. Paul points out, seeing faith lived out in everyday life is the most powerful argument for it. Unfortunately, denying evolution and the age of Earth s true also damages faith, as when young people are presented with the very strong evidence for the science, it implies they have been lied to.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu - yes there are many factors that contribute to young people turning away from the Lord. My point was that the #1 most important is when parents do not live and teach Biblical principles. But even with that, each child has many other influences which impact them more than a 40 minute SS lesson. Think about how much of anti-Biblical music, movies. TV and video games they watch compared to 40 min in SS. Yes you are correct, the hours of programming our children about evolution and moral relativism also influences them.
@@savemoney911 Quite agree.
Well said. Time to get back to the foundation of Scripture and see who is responsible for teaching and training the children!! (And more than Genesis 1 - 11 is needed for that! I'm thinking of Deuteronomy 6:6&7)
I hated Sunday School. I left the church but not the faith at age 9 to my Dad’s horror. Did me wonders compared to my siblings who are now atheists.
Unless the Sunday school was kent hovind seminars.
That would be a huge win for Christianity.
Why doesn’t he do it then?
@@Moist._Robot they don't like each other.
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Lol. I know.
AIG has a list of arguments not to use against evolution.
Kent uses all of them.
You the man, Ken!
I think it may be related to kids who are raised in a church environment moreso than Sunday school. They don't appreciate how they were raised and want to try the world out. I was not raised in church but started attending Sunday school in my pre-teen years without my parents, and my teacher was very influential in my conversion.
Hi Ken, I am looking for God and you mega church guy is making me run far and fast, mate.
Sunday School (or at least, children's Sunday School) and most of the church's kids' programs unfortunately only entertain kids and keep them immature. My parents wisely kept us with them in church instead of sending us to age-segregated programs, plus they did Bible reading and prayer and memorization at home with us as we grew up, and we have clearly noticed the results: my siblings and I, who are all in our 20s, are all strong Christians and faithful in church, whereas most of our our peers who did traditional Sunday School and VBS and such things are not. I've actually done some research into the bad effect that age-segregation and kids' fun-and-games in church has done to our generation. I thought about writing a book on the topic. I still might!
Willow Creek destroyed Sunday School when their style of entertainment rather than actual teaching became popular back in the early 2000s. Their argument was that loud, media based curricula that could be run by any adult was needed because it was so hard to find committed teachers. That destroyed any relationship with adult believers outside of the parents, and destroyed children's interest in what was being taught. Prior to that, I taught in a church that had the same teacher for the whole year and we used the David C. Cook curricula that was actually educational. The classes were all separated by grade which kept them small, manageable, and relevant to their age. We were more equivalent to a child small group Bible study than what goes on today. My current church thinks they have a good program, but they don't... it's basically just drop-in daycare for the parents.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ALLEN HE'S IN THE HOSPITAL 🏥
The Doctors and nurses will save him, not an imaginary god
When I grew up, we were in the warship with our parents and then we separated so we had our teaching at the same time the adults had theirs - the adult teaching happens to be called the sermon, usually.
God doesn't have grandchildren. Kids should be taught how to pray and how to operate in the gifts of the Spirit - and how to grow in the fruit of the Spirit, in an age-appropriate way. Some of the most incredible ministry time is when kids pray for adults - and not for stuff that is age inappropriate, please don't misunderstand me there. Families should be encouraged to talk about God in the home, so it's not just left to the Sunday school teachers to do the spiritual stuff. Kids are as much the church of today as the adults are.
Teaching has absolutely got to be more in-depth than colouring a few pages and hearing some watered-down Bible story - my dad tells me of a Sunday school lesson when he was a boy, at a time when the girls and boys had their lessons separately although in the same room. He can't remember what the boys were being taught, but the girls' lesson was on the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which was much more exciting and interesting. He would have been somewhere between 8 and 10 at the time - kids can absolutely understand some of the deep things of God at a very young age if they're given half a chance to. I was very young (four or five) when I asked 'How does Jesus fit in my heart?' A pause then, 'Is it the Holy Spirit really?'
Teach kids, in age-appropriate language, the fundamental truths of God and let them ask questions. That's how they will put down deep deep roots, not by the shallow things like colouring in and PC language. Kids know when people are being hypocritical and they will instinctively reject that - and if they reject God and the church too, that should grieve us all so deeply.
_Train_ up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it. (Proverbs 22:6)
People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, 'Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.' And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them. (Mark 10:13-16)
Thank you for this,glaring and shocking truth. As the Children must know God's word as God's words. Not just stories
God’s word : “If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.” (Deuteronomy 25 : 11-12)
The decreasing rates of people in church services is heartwarming. People are looking to science instwad of superstition. 🙏
Funny how at the same time, suicide and other deaths of despair have increased dramatically, especially among young people who are less likely to be religious.
Let’s also remember that religious people are more likely to donate to charity (any charity) or volunteer their time. Proven by statistics. Religious people also have a greater sense of community than non religious people, and when controlled for all variables live on average 3-5 years longer.
So under what circumstances would you say we have gotten better with less religion? Is there less war? Probably not, as it seems Putin/Ukraine and China/Taiwan don’t involve religion. Neither do many of the disputes around the world. Of those that do, it’s not clear if you removed religion the conflict would stop. Many of different religions are in different countries/ethnicities anyways. Humans love to be tribalistic even without religion. Is what Jesus taught offensive or bad or wrong? How is “science” (more like humanism) better?
@@dakotasmith1344 do you think the increase in suicidality and depression is caused by lack of religiosity, or is it a mere correlation?
Keep up the great work Mr Ham !!
Sunday School isn’t found in the Bible….I went to Sunday School as a child and it did draw me away from church as I got older….im in my 50’s now and yes I do go to church again
The problem is not Sunday School, but lack of biblical understanding. Or not caring about the things of the Lord.
I have taught Sunday School for teen & have always taught in a rigorous way.
The Bible is nothing but a collection of fairy tales.
Amen & Amen 🙏🏾
May I kindly recommend LESSONS FOR LIFE, written by Jill Masters. Widely available in the USA, and many other countries. Translated into many other languages also.
It’s a series of 4 books, with lessons for a four year cycle that can be repeated over and over, as there is enough content to adapt the lessons for different age groups, ranging from 4-16 years. All lessons are evangelistic, and include Christian apologetics where appropriate.
Jill Masters is the wife of Dr. Peter Masters, who is the pastor of the Metropolitan Tabernacle in London (CH Spurgeon’s) since 1970.
I had the privilege of teaching in their evangelistic outreach Sunday School (which reaches hundreds of children in London) for almost 8 years, and witnessed children and teenagers being converted, and whole families starting to go to church because of the lessons their children were receiving.
My husband and I were sent by the Metropolitan Tabernacle to plant a church in São Paulo, Brasil, and we have been using the Portuguese version of Lessons for Life in our church for 10 years now.
Thanks Ken, 2 children i took to sunday school & fellowship meetings 5-8 years; sadly their Sunday School was to get gossip(their words), forgot the 10th commandment. I believe it is important to do as Elisabeth & Mary witnessed, use the Holy Spirit, to bring Him into the child while yet in the womb, as John the Baptist. This will assure their heavenly destination, and help them when their doubts mount. The Holy Spirit within us is our greatest strength, the Word of God our sword; dont be consumed with gossip.
Paul would write letters to the church about unrepentant sin was happening inside the church. And for all we can see, the church actually changed by his letters. Elders were held to a higher standard. Nowadays, when elders are caught in unrepentant sin, or they know members who are continuing to sin, the elders will protect those people because they are their friends. And anyone who points out their sin, those people get kicked out of the church. The church needs to repent.
I was being abused, and I went to one of the elders to bring it up. His first words out of his mouth were, "stop playing the victim." Even though I was being threatened with physical violence.
I wonder, can the adults go to Sunday School first, so they can know what to believe and therefore how to live, before sending their children?
Thank you Ken Ham.
Personally, I hated Sunday school as a kid until I flat out refused to go there one day. I founded it to be absolutely pointless activity 🤷♀️
So did I. I was always playing truancy. Didn't become a Christian until I was 44.
The truth is that most children end of leaving God because of the double standard life of their parents, that don't walk in the spirit. Have forgotten about the spiritual battle that always goes on in this world, that requires prayers and supplications. Instead, they spend their time next to a tv, with a beer and have the TV educate their kids.
Finding a Church in Particular in small Communities these days that are not WOKE. Is difficult. I was blessed being introduced to scripture in very early years as a resident of an orphanage. I sought it out afterwards through #Christian Sunday Schools and all other #Christian gatherings. I had non believing unmarried natural parents. My natural Mother even mocked scripture. I kind off preached to her as a child. #PraiseLordJesus for allowing me to be found and forgiveness. In my semi retirement now I have even more time to study Scripture. Do you think we are meant to be lost to then be found.??? Some have had strong Parent guidance and may not have made as many sinful errors. But being introduced to scripture in early years seems to followed me after being found in early adulthood. I recall #Praying in my teens during what some could describe as abuse by a parent. Needing to get out of the home for safety and sit on the sement ground at the local shops untill the sun came up. Then going home to get into my high school uniform and go to school. It makes me believe how important introduction to scripture in early years may be. Learning to #Pray what a blessing. But yet some grow up with #Faithful parents and yet go on to a deceitful corrupt sinful even evil behaviour life. I wonder why some choose evil over good? Seems so completely INSANE. God bless from Australia
It has nothing to do with '...answering the sceptical questions of this age...', these questions are no different to any other time in the history of humanity: what am I, who am I and why am I here - every other human enquiry stems from these. In mention of the physiological family's role, you are partly right. Unfortunately, peripherals aside, you can't effectively teach Faith if you don't demonstrate Faith.
Have prayer corner at home, start paying and showing respect yourself, your lifestyle should reflect...children follow example more than what theyre told. We all did
My church does children’s church after worship, and the last Sunday of the month is family church, so there’s no children’s church or nursery. This is good for the teachers and the children. But I’m not going to lie, it is stressful for the parents. Children’s church shouldn’t be the first introduction to gospel and it shouldn’t end when they go home after service. Parents job #1. Church/children’s church is supplementary.
Thank you, for stating that my church is similar. I know some families who specifically go to churchs who have children's ministry because it is so stressful to watch their kids during service, that they can't even listen to the sermon.
Whilst curriculum is important, would it not be more important to ask are there other factors also?
See, how long would your average Sunday school lesson/class time be? Let's say, for argument's sake, that it lasts an hour, or maybe say 2 hours altogether for church on a Sunday. That's 2 hours a week out of a total of 168 hours in a week, or 1.2% (and thats being generous). Or if I'm underestimating, let's say 2% of the children's week is spent in solid Biblical teaching.
Now, this is not nothing, but if 2% is all a child ever receives each week, would not one logically say that overall, what happens in the other 98% would be far more likely to have a longer lasting impact than the 2%?
I think churches should be more concerned with equipping parents to teach and train their children - even as is laid out in Deuteronomy 6:6&7. If the 2% is not reinforced during the 98% or even worse, refuted, then it's no surprise that young people turn their backs on the church.
Christianity's greatest weakness is knowledge. It's not a coincidence that Christianity began to nosedive at the start of the Enlightenment.
I did not even attend Sunday school until my late 20’s. I guess I’m a late bloomer 😊
A question to ask is "Exactly how much of the available time for Sunday school is actually used for Bible scripture study?" Especially in today's "modern" churches. Meet and greet at the starting of class. Class announcements and business. A few minutes of devotional time, then it's arts and crafts. Along side of snacks and cartoons.
How does an 8 year old learn to trust the scriptures when they are presented in the same light as Saturday morning Sponge Bob Square Pants or video game characters? Veggie Tales (another Alice in Wonderland story?) and Noah's tiny tugboat.
These days are there any age appropriate studies that counter the woke endorsements of everything embedded in the following 3 points?
1Jo 2:16 KJV - 16 For all that [is] in the world, *the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life*, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Along with this, I've notice a big change from the days of youth, when the rule was If you don't go to church this morning, you don't go anywhere else this afternoon. (It was enforced, BTW). Younger people don't bring Bibles to church anymore. Nor do they bring study materials for Sunday School classes. Thus, making it evident that they no longer actually study lesson materials being covered before classes.
Is it wrong to assume that if they don't bring a Bible to church, along with a quarterly Sunday School Book, that they don't use them during the week? That in fact, they may not even own a personal copy of the Bible? Or, if they do, it's on the top shelf in their closet?
Maybe children should be in Sunday school everyday and learn about Jesus and the Bible all day.❤
Education induces reasoning against the third man illogic of invisible beings and the substandard morality of their scriptures.
We are Roman Catholic but my uncle converted to Lutheran
My two daughters would gi to c c d on Wednesday and Sunday school on Sunday and they loved it
Bith graduated Suma Kum laude
My wife teaches Catholic c c d and the kids just received Holy communion today
I love Ken Ham and have been to the museum and the ark. The information in this video did not surprise me. What surprised me is that there is no reason given as to why Sunday School was failing and turning our kids off to church. Answers in Genesis is usually very thorough and technical, but this one was a disappointment because no examples were given. Needs a redo or an amplification! God bless
Its the curriculum. They need one that can beat evolution and the flood.
@@AntiguanianIn other words, when your marketing strategy is failing, it needs to be retooled or replaced.
Because parents who take their kids to Sunday School often think their job is done.
They haven't even started yet.
@@bg5215 Thank you...and I agree. I did not hear Brother Ken say that. When I was a pastor in the states doing church planting, we had Sunday School with the whole family together and all the parents said it was better than any Sunday School they had their kids in before. Parents involved with their kids training! God bless.
Sunday school is stupid. The entire family should be at worship and hearing the word together.
What is the Gospel?
Our kids are in a "Christian" school where the teachers believe in evolution and where gay marriage is defended.
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IN SHORT: I stopped going to Church as a Teenager after I got on my own.
I was a Unwanted Abused And Neglected Problem Foster Child. Growing Up In a Foster Home From Hell. They were Religious, as far as going to Church on Sundays. But I couldn't see any difference between the Religious People. And None Religious People. They tried to send me to a Religious School. But The Teachers was Abusive. And the kids beat me up in school everyday. I got kicked out of a few Church just for asking Questions. They wanted people who would show up on Sundays. Give their Money. And don't ask any questions. And the list goes on.
Those people were NOT Christian 😢
***a proper family life, I mean not authoritarian but loving, not fanatic teachings but teaching by examples; children of today are exposed to many peers sons and daughters of many fathers and mothers who were grown in a concerned family environment, no wonder if you do not kow what God is all about or have an erroneous understanding of God, children feel it and fill the gap of the neadding for a sound spiritual environment with whatever they are exposed outside of home, and of course there are no guaranties they will make the right decisions
Sunday "school" should be for both children and new believers. They can learn together, helps the young people and keeps the new believers humble. Then, when each child or adult is ready, and perhaps this is acknowledged and celebrated with baptism, each young person or new believer can now take their place among the ranks of the adult worshippers - knowlegeable and self disciplined enough to be with adults and mature Believers. A child is technically an adult (albeit, a young adult) at puberty, which is the age of assent and reason. It's then a child can be readied for "confirmation of faith" and public baptism, but not before.
There should never be 'church' ordained "youth groups" of any kind. Nor "single mom" groups". Those types of activities are merely Christian Community endeavors and activities, and must have nothing to do with the preaching and teaching, with the Spiritled worship, of the "ekkelesia". There must be no 'tribalism' within the fellowship of Bible Believers. And nothing, no heirarchy of activities that can create an "us and them" mentality, especially not between teenagers and adults. Teens need to be humbled, not to be made arrogant with too much independence and autonomy, often under the leadership of a (unbiblical) youth padtor. Even so, the teen years are questioning years, and mature adults are expected to help guide them through this challenging time...not indulge them nor blow them off!
Isn't it somewhat self-serving, to begin a premise saying all Sunday School programming is wrong. At the same time that, what absolute luck you have, by listening to this video, we sell Sunday School programing and other instructional material, as in for home schooling,, etcetera. Isn't there some kind of "ethical" issue going on here?
Statistically children were not benefiting from traditional Sunday School so his team tried to see what was wrong and develop a solution. I know my church has been discussing this issue and might benefit from a new approach.
@@ChristinaSkillern-cl3bg Agreed, I remember back in the aiughts looking around at our SS at the time and wondering if there was anyway to do it that didn't involve crafts and making stuff. I sent a copy of the video to our Campus Kid's Pastor (different church) for her input, and yes, change when age and scripturally accurate is always helpful. My personal concern was could Mr. Ham have talked about the issue and steered clear of making the video so it didn't seem like a commercial, and him "hawking" books?
I think those born in 1985 were the last generation who were exposed to Christian and had the access to Vacation Bible School and Awana. I became a Christian through Awana, which God sent to my parent's church where I became born again.
being born again, not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible, by the WORD of God which lives and abides forever,
for all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of the grass, the grass withers and the flower thereof falls away.
but the WORD of the Lord endures forever.
and THIS IS THE WORD, WHICH BY THE GOSPEL IS PREACHED TO YOU,1 Peter1:23,24,25
for as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven and returns not there, but waters the earth, and makes it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater, so shall my WORD be that goes forth out of my (God's) mouth, it shall NOT return to me (God) void, BUT it SHALL accomplish that which I please, and it SHALL prosper in the thing where to I sent it. Isaiah 55: 10,11
you SHALL not add unto the word which I (Moses) command you, neither SHALL you diminish aught from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I (Moses) command you. Deut 4:2
Every WORD of God is pure, he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him, add thou NOT unto his words, lest he reprove THEE and THOU be found a LIAR. Proverbs 30:5,6
we are born again by HIS incorruptible word, NOT by bible stories or your thoughts of what scripture means, so we should ONLY preach the WORD in season, out of season, for let God tell the truth and EVERY MAN a liar
What is the reason these Sunday schools are not working? I would think that teaching the kids that they can't trust modern science would be a big contributor.
That's what I wondered. Could it be its just a nursery where the kids have colouring books. Plus those bath tub arks etc? With no real teaching.
Yes you have to cater to young children and concentration time, but I wonder is their any real teaching done with any age group?
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n my personal opinion is that if you tell kids they must have a young earth interpretation, then they are so conflicted with what they are learning in science at school. Then they start doubting the whole of Christianity because it's at conflict with science when it's really not.
@@jameswright2355 Who said the must in the way you say it. The 2 should be taught togather.
The Christians must teach creation and why it is a young earth.
They also must state schools are forced at least in this country, to teach evolution and old earth.
There is NO scientific evidence for evolution. You will not find a single evolutionist who, scientifically can prove macro evolution. They rely on the truth of micro evolution, and hope nobody notices the difference.
Plus there are many different forms of evolution. Each one is to try and prove their religion.
Parents and I mean mother and father or guardian, and pastors, must get themselves educated to be able to answer the childrens questions. If they don't how will children learn the truth.
Jesus believed in Genesis.
Also you realise by teaching death illness and destruction before man, you have negated the cross. No point in a man dying on a cross for the sin of man. Children will realise that, possibly more than fixed view adults.
Ken used to be a high school science teacher in Queensland, Australia, but in his heart he was always a creationist who never believed in the science that he was teaching.
Why are you here, please?
It's ironic you keep mentioning science in your comments as though it disproves God, when it's quite the opposite. It's because of God that science works. I don't agree with Ken on everything, in particular his take on Genesis 1 and the age of the Earth. But to deny the existence of God is absolute foolishness.
Atheism is...
not bad.
As I have said over the years and to pastors and pastor's wives - who by the way vehemently disagree - that we should be preparing the children for what they will be taught in school about the lies of evolution and that they must stop preaching that god used the evolution process to create the universe and teach the proper truth about Genesis. Example that God is a God of order, why would God create the vegetation, trees and plants and fruit on the trees and plants and then wait another 1000 years to make the sun, which the vegetation needs to thrive?
Genesis 1: 11-19 "11Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13And there was evening, and there was morning-the third day.
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19And there was evening, and there was morning-the fourth day."
All sheep will be called, hear, and follow Christ.
See John 10:1-27
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me. John 6:37
God's will is being done.See Eph.1:11
Churches need to teach parents that it is their responsibility to teach their children.
.... but when parents bring their children to Sunday School, many think that their job is done.
A 30 - 40 minute lesson once a week??? Don't be silly.
... But if a church does confront parents with these truths.... most parents would probably switch churches....
“The wrath of God is being revealed from Heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities- His eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God, nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.”
- Romans 1: 18-22
I’m pretty sure that churchgoing families who send their wee ones to Sunday school, aren’t failing to glorify God, or give thanks. By Ken Ham’s accounting, there’s apparently a failure in the messaging. If Paul’s message in Romans 1 is accurate, then godlessness and wickedness amongst little kids attending Sunday school, should not ever be an issue. But according to Ken Ham, kids leaving the church in droves, IS an issue. Again, he blames the messaging. Ken Ham has a solution. Churches should buy his Sunday school curriculum.
Here’s a thought. What if Romans 1: 18-22 is just plain wrong? What if God didn’t make his invisible qualities- his eternal power and divine nature, plain to them? What if, after seeing through the silliness, the hypocrisy, the bigotry, and the obvious attempts at manipulation and indoctrination, the kids (who are actually a lot smarter than we give them credit for) are simply rejecting the message? Can Ken Ham’s fake Ark and obsession with the book of Genesis, change that?
Ken Ham doesn’t care if you or your family are saved. Ken Ham operates an enterprise that sells books, videos and curriculums. And a fake Ark. He’s a grifter. He’s clearly stirring up an interest in a problem that may or may not actually be a problem. He wants you to buy the book that “clearly” describes the problem, and then I’m sure that you will be introduced to home study materials for your children, available for purchase through the Answers In Genesis bookstore, designed to help stop the supposed exodus of children from belief in God. If you are unable or unwilling to recognize a con, I can’t help you.
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Too many unprepared teachers, who are not annointed by God in the pulpits teaching heresy, and deceiving the Naive,
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Jesus said in Matthew 24, when He was giving the signs of His coming and the end of the age, He said in verse 10, " And at that time many will fall away, and they will betray one another and hate one another." And, the Holy Spirit said through the Apostle in 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3, "Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction..."
We must do what Jesus said in Matthew 24:13, "But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved."
Schools that are teaching evolution as truth does not exactly help.
Mr. Ham here assumes that the curriculum is the problem, and changing the curriculum would fix the problem - but he didn't mention any research into what type of curriculum had been used with the ~600 former Sunday School students who had left Church. Maybe the curriculum had nothing to do with this phenomenon.
Peoples reasoning and critical thinking skills start to mature around 9 or 10, so it makes sense.
In any other business, Mr Ham would be advised that his product isn’t selling anymore.
All these falling away is because the truth was never in their hearts. They may have been victims of easy believism and decisionalism which is not being supernaturally born again. Romans10v10.
Truth turns people away from supernatural claims. Grow up already. You're an adult. Blind leading the blind never stops.
It’s not the children that have left the church but their parents. Children no longer learn to love and trust the Lord Jesus because their parents do not and He is not part of their everyday lives. What is happening instead? Islam is offering the guidance to our youth and they are converting right before our eyes.
Children are born with original sin. They live for awhile under some measure of grace. Eventually, as they become adults the original sin emerges and grows. Only the blood of Christ can neutralize it.
Why don’t Christian’s know that Jesus name wasn’t Jesus?
Where is sunday school in the bible? It isnt. THis is the first error.
Second, yes parent responsibility is first and foremost when it comes to teaching and living out their faith. This though is not a benchmark for kids coming to faith, as parents are not perfect, and are being transformed daily themselves.
Having a relationship with Jesus is personal and God is sovereign over everyone who comes to faith. We cannot open eyes and ears... the gospel does this by the power of the spirit. Dont get me wrong, how we live is important, but if it depended on us no one would be saved. It doesnt... as Jesus pointed out.. whats with man is impossible, with God all things are possible.
THe gospel is the power of God unto salvation to those that believe. God knows who will believe. We must preach it and teach it and under grace.. live it.
Everyone has their story... their journey.
Being religious is what drives people away. Hypocrites who say one thing and do another. Many dont know Jesus as Lord.
Praying for your family and letting God do the work..no matter where they are at...trust in him to bring them to the cross... but at the same time, you live out your faith the best you can, and that comes by knowing God and his word.. understanding his heart. We all get it wrong and we all fall short. Grace and mercy is all we can ask for... and our Father is very gracious and merciful. We show our children what repentance is... we show how God is slow to anger and abounds in steadfast love. We practise what we preach.
God has created it so that he shows us his strength and his might, and his grace... we are designed for that.. we arent created to be our own god in charge and knowing what to do. We are given all things from the Lord who all things were made through him and for him.
Above all we have to learn how to be gracious, how to keep unity, how to be peaceable with all as much as we can etc... WE need to back off, live our own personal life with Jesus and by his spirit we will then be able to live the life he has called us to.... which is about dying to self!!
Maybe... the issue is that churches are responsible because they preach a false gospel... and because of this, there are many false converts... and children see this... the narrow road leads to life and few find it... this is what our Lord says... its time to get right with God ourselves first.... only then God may use you to reach others. Its a hard lesson for many.. including me... but God is amazing and good... hes patient... today is a day to repent,.. today is a day to get right .... grace abounds.... its never too late with Jesus.
After watching the entire video, WHY children are leaving the church because of Sunday school. What EXACTLY are they learning there that makes them not believe? I love your videos, but this one never said anything except Read this book to learn why. It sounds like you are promoting the book very heavily and not trying to tell us Sunday school teachers and parent what it us that we need to be teaching.
Pls teach Tigraians too
No child should be getting indoctrinated about faith (pro or anti) until they are old enough to think for themselves.
People aren't leaving church because Sunday School doesn't teach Ken Ham's defective, theologically aberrant views on the nature of suffering. It's no surprise that a man who made more money selling Young Earthism than David Bowie made selling records and concert tickets would produce a study that says we need more Young Earthism - what else would we expect?
People leave church when church fails to be relevant anymore. When work dominates your life, when church doesn't help you with your social, academic, or employment dilemmas, adherence gets crowded out. There is a lot of work to be done to reverse this trend. But teaching more of Ham's mishmash that confuses Eden's perfection with the state of the entire prehistoric world, misunderstands what the Bible means by Death, and casts a bizarre light on God's character as an all-powerful creator who literally wouldn't hurt a fly but then helplessly abandons billions of souls to Hell just because Eve ate bad fruit...well, that ain't it.
If we taught young earth in our bible school, no parents would allow their children to attend.
Are you sure? Would the parents know? That is no reason for the Bible nit to be taught.
If they teach young earth in Sunday School, there is a good chance its a Bible Believing Church.
The solution is to abandon man centered Protestant and Roman Catholicism and return to Orthodoxy; the same faith of the apostles, Timothy, and fathers after them
But what was orthodox?
@@Moist._Robot The Church of history that still follows the teachings of 1st-3rd and so on century Christians
@@Warspite39
There were lots of versions of Christianity at that time.
There was no orthodox.
@@Moist._Robot Are you saying that the various heresies are just different versions of Christianity? Nesortianism, Arianism, etc... Which by the way, protestants constantly keep repeating the same heresies over and over
@@Warspite39
Yes.
Who decided which ones were heresies?
Congratulations Ken on finally recognizing that Christianity is collapsing among the young, but you have it exactly backwards. Bible literalism is the problem, not the solution. The reason is that young people, unlike their parents, are unwilling to gloss over the credibility issues. The solution is to simplify the teaching to its core mission-teaching people to find the love and compassion that is within them and to make it a major theme in their lives. This is what Jesus meant when he said, "The kingdom of God is within you." Also, young people live in a world of space travel and unlimited, globalized information right on their phones. They do not live in a world of miracles, angels, and demons. Teach inner love and compassion. Get rid of the teachers who don't get it or are still focusing heavily on sin. You're welcome.
What you are suggesting is not Christianity. Sin is the reason we need a savior.
@@thefriesens1071 What I am suggesting is that Christianity adapt to a changing world or become extinct, which is what is underway right now. Ken Ham's own figures say that only 9% of American generation Z (9 to 27 years old) believe in god. What are you going to do about it? I offered a concrete suggestion. Now you offer one.
People aren't bying into the fairytale anymore.
Hey there tough internet atheist guy.
You say the study shows the problem is Sunday school, and your reason is, none of them are using the right curriculum? But yours curriculum is the answer? Aren’t you making the same argument communists? The answer is someone no one has done it right yet, but we have the answer? This is self serving for your business. I like what you do but don’t be so prideful to say your extra biblical curriculum is the answer to saving our kids. Please repent of this, it’s a false gospel.
I don’t think it’s hypocritical of a Sunday Teacher, to teach that the Genesis story was really meant for the people at the time to understand. It wasn’t designed for modern day science. The Bible isn’t a Science book.
I like you will find, the main reason for youngsters leaving Sunday School & church, is, they were made to feel, they either had to believe all the Bible or not at all. This philosophy has turned many away, and it started with the famous Atheist Chris Hitchens. His Sunday School teacher told him that God created nature, & that’s all he needs to know. Completely Anti science.
Christianity starts with the event of the Resurrection. It doesn’t start at the beginning of Genesis. That’s what we need to get youngsters back to faith. Not telling them the Earth is only 6,000 years old, created in 6 days, because it’s a part of a book written my man. The Old Testament should be respected aswell, but the Jesus story needs to take precedence in this day & age. ( just my thoughts).
sunday is the wrong day to worship it is the first day of the week and not the seventh day Holy Sabbath.
God does not change nor His Holy Law.
If you are going to church on sunday you have been deceived by tradition and so called church preachers.
You either follow God's Holy Law or a day that was instituted by satan in 321 AD by the Emperor Constantine.
To those who don't know yet that the so called sun-day worshiping is worshiping the day of the sun which is pantheism.
the mark of the beast will be sunday worship by force.
The seal of the Living God is in His 4Th Commandment.
Study it and don't be deceived in receiving the mark of the beast which Jesus will destroy all those that break His Holy Commandment.
Everyday is the Lords
Wrong. God renews his covenants and prophecies have been fulfilled. If the Law never changes, do you still offer blood sacrifices? If not, then please explain why not and how that is consistent with your original remarks?
@@beestoe993
What’s your best biblical prophecy?
@@Moist._Robot What's it to you, troll?
@@beestoe993
I’m interested in what you think is the best prophecy.
Kids are ditching religion and its a great thing.
Following a ‘religion’ or having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, who is alive, are two completely different things. This is a point missed by so many people who think that by following a set of rules that they are pleasing God. These are they who are on the broad road travelling to their spiritual deaths. Jesus, Himself, is the door to the narrow way that leads to genuine life …. Everlasting life. Jesus is the great I AM. He is the bread of life. He is the living water. He is the good shepherd. He Himself is our Sabbath rest. It is He Himself who says “Be still and know that I am God”
Christianity is about God being there for you. Other faiths are about you being there for God (or their god or gods).
It’s a great thing to see little children enjoy attending church with their parents and grandparents and asking questions about Jesus. It’s a great thing to see a five year old child thanking Jesus for protecting her and her family during a bad storm. It’s a great thing to see one’s children and grandchildren grow in their Christian faith.
@@alastairhopkins245 Christ wants to inhabit us but won’t crash the door. Rev 3:20
@@mlamber7780 I disagree.
Kids are turning away from religion in droves.... it's a beautiful thing. May it continue until all of our beliefs are based on evidence and reason.
To pigeon hole all faiths into a single stereotype is ignorance squared. Hundreds of millions of people have been murdered at the hand of the Atheist Cult of Communism. There is your anti-God "beautiful thing". Troll.
I’m am praying that you believe in God. You are made in His image (Gen.9:6), and forgiven by Jesus Christ dying on the cross for all. What a tortured soul. Repent. Your keyboard is not your salvation, nor this world home.Go in peace, my brother and sin no more.
Can you explain how a man by the name of Tony Low, whose testimony is on CZcams, was healed of brain tumour at the 4th stage?
What? No, we as a nation need to repent and turn back to God.
@@virtual240 make a list of the MOST religious nations and a list of the least religious nations. Which ones have better education? Better healthcare? Better child mortality? Lower crime? By every metric, you are dead wrong. Abandoning iron age superstition would vastly improve everyone's lives.