Göring the Peacemaker? The Secret 1939 Plot

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  • In late 1939, a secret attempt was made by Hermann Göring to make peace between Germany and Britain. It involved the very highest echelons of the British government and a host of shadowy intelligence officers of several nations.
    Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA, is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...
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  • @Station7Jason
    @Station7Jason Před 8 měsíci +1491

    Anyone else wish Dr. Felton would just make a 10 hour long WW2 documentary? 😂

    • @lablackzed
      @lablackzed Před 8 měsíci +14

      👍

    • @mwheeler138
      @mwheeler138 Před 8 měsíci +72

      10 hrs? Ha! He's already gotten that beat on this here channel! Mark Felton is a gem.

    • @jameshair4082
      @jameshair4082 Před 8 měsíci +63

      No, I would rather have nice small tasty tapas dishes than an indigestible 10 hour banquet.

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 Před 8 měsíci +22

      His books

    • @blvp2145
      @blvp2145 Před 8 měsíci +7

      I would give good money for that

  • @malakasquad2214
    @malakasquad2214 Před 8 měsíci +710

    Once again, we realize just how complicated the whole story of this war is, and how many facts could have turned out differently.
    Thank you, Dr. Felton!

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 Před 8 měsíci +1

      SO the Allies bungled a "get rid of Hitler" peace deal...just great

    • @MUFFINHEAD1985
      @MUFFINHEAD1985 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Exactly what I thought. You never have the full picture.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci

      You have the picture they gave us. Churchill’s in that one too as the main actor they also stole the original, the black and white one, remember during Covid from the hotel? Too bad they didn’t open the Churchill files yet which is going to tell you guys everything you didn’t know. More in line with the truth about what really happened there, as Rudolph Hess did the Spandau Ballet….

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I do admire how you state facts with such conviction and how those facts could’ve turned out differently. That’s interesting. Just interesting; not factual at all (that’s not a fact, either). Fact.

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@marionapoleoni4502 You make no sense at all..is English your primary language?

  • @georgeo2664
    @georgeo2664 Před 8 měsíci +364

    Because of this channel, I became a history major.

  • @dougearnest7590
    @dougearnest7590 Před 8 měsíci +522

    It's interesting to think about how well-regarded Göring - the aristocratic WW1 flying ace - might be today had he deposed Hitler and made peace with the Western Allies at just the right time in history.

    • @jagdtiger7094
      @jagdtiger7094 Před 8 měsíci +110

      A.H never wanted war with England. For some reason he somewhat admired the country.

    • @BitOfUltraviolence
      @BitOfUltraviolence Před 8 měsíci +55

      The allies literally turned on each other afterwards. Instead of Germany, it was the Soviet Union and so on. The war was pointless as it never ended anything. Other countries had human experimentations and such.

    • @maizie9454
      @maizie9454 Před 8 měsíci +40

      deposed... a friendly way of saying killing hitler. so many cards that could have been played. and it seems the wrong ones always won out

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci +16

      Yes and think of how well regarded anyone who deposed Churchill would be.

    • @focusingbeauty
      @focusingbeauty Před 8 měsíci +33

      Except for Poland. We would've been just as f***ed, just from the other side.

  • @1RadicalDreamer
    @1RadicalDreamer Před 8 měsíci +170

    Dr. Felton….. i hope you never stop
    doing what you’re doing, you’re an absolute gem to people who love history.

    • @Ken-fh4jc
      @Ken-fh4jc Před 4 měsíci

      Easily the best history channel on CZcams. Simple, to the point, no hype.

  • @awtizme
    @awtizme Před 8 měsíci +68

    Wherever there's appeasement, Lord Halifax is never far away

    • @bigfish92672
      @bigfish92672 Před měsícem

      Wherever there are War Crimes, Winnie, FDR, and Truman are never far away

  • @Henry_Jones
    @Henry_Jones Před 8 měsíci +146

    Naturally the common people don't want war . . . but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or parliament or a communist dictatorship. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
    -Hermann Goring
    Very true words that americans should listen to.

    • @gottwyCZ
      @gottwyCZ Před 8 měsíci +28

      That sums up current Russian propaganda pretty well.

    • @Henry_Jones
      @Henry_Jones Před 8 měsíci +14

      ​@@gottwyCZyou mean anti-russian propaganda lol

    • @MrDino1953
      @MrDino1953 Před 8 měsíci +10

      Putin obviously learned from Goering.

    • @Henry_Jones
      @Henry_Jones Před 8 měsíci +21

      @@MrDino1953 what about LBJ and GWB? Gulf of Tonkin and WMDs true? Nope. They played the Goring card.

    • @jonathanj.7344
      @jonathanj.7344 Před 8 měsíci +18

      @@MrDino1953 At least Russians know if they're male or female.

  • @scotttyson607
    @scotttyson607 Před 8 měsíci +115

    Absolutely incredible that this plot remained secret for so long. There must be several embarrassing details involving high ranking British officials.

    • @jackprecip5389
      @jackprecip5389 Před 8 měsíci +12

      The last 400 years of high ranking British officials is an embarrassment.

    • @watching99134
      @watching99134 Před 8 měsíci +10

      Also that the Swedes don't publicize more of it, probably they don't want people to know how much money they made off the war.

    • @Makak0007
      @Makak0007 Před 8 měsíci

      Swedes keep very low profile, just like Swiss banks do till these days.
      There is a lot of mess hidden under the carpet...

  • @watchesandcoins.7738
    @watchesandcoins.7738 Před 8 měsíci +57

    Goering is by far one of WW2s most wild card and open ended figures.

    • @jyearr6744
      @jyearr6744 Před 8 měsíci +35

      I definitely agree. I feel he didn't share the beliefs of the party, he just wanted the fame, status and power.

    • @watchesandcoins.7738
      @watchesandcoins.7738 Před 8 měsíci +13

      @@jyearr6744 Highly self driven.

    • @gumdeo
      @gumdeo Před 8 měsíci +8

      He liked the good life.

    • @watchesandcoins.7738
      @watchesandcoins.7738 Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@gumdeo at the expense of others.

    • @TPTGopher
      @TPTGopher Před 8 měsíci +7

      I've long believed the best chance for a Nazi victory would've been the death of Hitler in the last week of June 1941...too late to uninvade the Soviet Union, but at a point where Führer Göring's lazy ass would've OK-whatevered potential policies geared towards recognizing the fact that, given the right incentives (let's not forget that, until they reached Russia proper, Ukrainian and Baltic locals were far more likely to view the Wehrmacht as liberators than invaders), countless Soviet subjects would've joined forces with the Nazis faster than you can say "Kill Stalin".

  • @cosmicdisaster02
    @cosmicdisaster02 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Please never ever change the intro! It gets me jamming everytime😂

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Před 8 měsíci +141

    Glad Dr. Mark still has fun doing YT after 5 years, its a vibe to listen to more WW2 lore

    • @SINfromPL
      @SINfromPL Před 8 měsíci +7

      bruh, 2 million subscribers, he makes more money than any job he has ever worked

    • @Albert-Arthur-Wison225
      @Albert-Arthur-Wison225 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@SINfromPLWhat on earth does ‘ bruh ‘ mean ?

    • @SINfromPL
      @SINfromPL Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Albert-Arthur-Wison225 it means "my friend"

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@SINfromPL That's debatable since the number of subscribers doesn't necessarily have any bearings on one's success, or lack there of, on CZcams. How much money you make on CZcams has a lot more to do with the type of content you produce with many of the more successful CZcamsrs producing what could be called nonsense that don't require a ton of research or high production values. Many CZcamsrs, particularly history oriented CZcamsrs face a lot of scrutiny from CZcams, often get demonetized, and have been seeing sharp declines in ad revenue which means they're not getting paid as much. So given all of that , I wouldn't necessarily assume that he's making a lot of money off of this and his other channel. And for all we know, CZcams could just be his side hustle to supplement his main income doing something else.

    • @nonesiste
      @nonesiste Před 8 měsíci

      @@Albert-Arthur-Wison225racist question

  • @CigarAttache
    @CigarAttache Před 8 měsíci +26

    The mystery of the Hess flight and his imprisonment tell his death always struck me as very odd.

    • @keithcitizen4855
      @keithcitizen4855 Před 8 měsíci +4

      This story dovetails into it - both Hess and Goring had aquantences in Scotland it seems from this video

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Hess was an odd person. :D

    • @shirleybalinski4535
      @shirleybalinski4535 Před 8 měsíci +3

      This video makes you wonder if this was a 2nd attempt for peace with Hess providing cover for Goering( saving face) or perhaps at the instigation of Goering( and/ or others) with Hess as the Fall Guy in case of failure.

    • @margen9328
      @margen9328 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah, and I always wondered.
      Hess was a very high ranking member of the NSDAP and everything. Fine.
      But, when he went to the UK, the...full atrocities of full blast war and warcrimes were yet to come.
      Hess was, by that time, emprisoned and not in any position to order/commit any of this.
      Prison ? Yeah, maybe. I guess.
      But LIFE in prison (even if a very comfortable one) ? What had he done personnaly to get a life sentence ?

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 7 měsíci

      @@margen9328 As a certain monk says in the song ...."Oh those Russians".
      The west wanted to release Hess for decades, but the Soviets blocked it every time the subject was raised.
      It could be argued that Hess didn't even deserve prison. Once the Nazi's were in power, Hess very quickly became irrelevant. He really didn't affect policy at all. He only kept his (powerless) post because he was one of the 'alte kampfer'. Any power he had was usurped by Bormann.

  • @davidrpriest
    @davidrpriest Před 8 měsíci +28

    Rudolf Hess's flight to the UK was a peace mission in my opinion. I would love for Dr. Felton to do a video on this. Lots of information on this out there.

    • @boblennox9251
      @boblennox9251 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Was it not to Lord Halifax that his mission was directed?

    • @patrickmiano7901
      @patrickmiano7901 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Hess did it on his own. It was half-baked.

    • @Smudgeroon74
      @Smudgeroon74 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@patrickmiano7901 untrue. Hess went on that mission to Britain because he had hoped to link up with some people(associates of Duke of Hamilton) he knew in Scotland and it was all arranged but his Cessna somehow ended up on the wrong flight path in Scotland. Rudolf Hess had the full blessing of Adolf Hitler..

    • @paulbeesley8283
      @paulbeesley8283 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@boblennox9251I think it was the Earl of Hamilton (but he never got to see him.)

    • @paulysewad1869
      @paulysewad1869 Před 8 měsíci

      Deep diving the complexities

  • @Clipgatherer
    @Clipgatherer Před 8 měsíci +8

    A Swedish acquaintance of Göring’s, Birger Dahlerus, is known to have travelled between Berlin and London several times, in order to prevent war from breaking out. His efforts were fruitless.

  • @eziio3
    @eziio3 Před 8 měsíci +28

    Always a good day when Lord Felton uploads

  • @pablocruise9514
    @pablocruise9514 Před 8 měsíci +35

    I've read a lot of WWII books and watched a bunch of WWII videos and I've never heard about this. This is mind-blowing!

    • @watching99134
      @watching99134 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Half the commenters literally say something alone those lines about each of Dr. Felton's videos.

  • @jimhoffmann
    @jimhoffmann Před 8 měsíci +43

    Bravo! I never heard of this before, Dr. Felton.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah right Hoffman you’re on the inside just kidding I wish I was

  • @Penekamp11
    @Penekamp11 Před 8 měsíci +102

    Your videos are always informative, concise, and succinct, unlike so many CZcams videos that drone on and on.

    • @JaneEva
      @JaneEva Před 8 měsíci +8

      ...and I love, too, that they never have that low, manipulative music in the background that makes a video unwatchable to me! Just plain facts and great narration. Keep up the great work!

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Sir Peter Ustinov's father was the press attache of the German embassy in London. A meeting was held in his apartment, with German generals among the participants, which was also an attempt to reach a peace agreement, while "I was at the movies," writes Sir Peter in "Dear Me." The story is worth telling, I believe.

  • @mwheeler138
    @mwheeler138 Před 8 měsíci +34

    Just in the past 2 - 3 weeks of watching this channel ive learned so much. There are books and articles that Im now looking into to expand my knowledge on the topics I've found here. THIS is what History Channel used to be.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 Před 8 měsíci

      Hitler was an alien.
      Also he build the pyramids.

    • @henriklarssen1331
      @henriklarssen1331 Před 8 měsíci

      Give TIK history a shot, another great WW2 channel.
      Both are way more detailed and interesting then anything you can find in our media.

    • @Rusty_Gold85
      @Rusty_Gold85 Před 8 měsíci

      Wait until you go back 4-5 years worth of his Research - The Professor is really good

  • @peterstephens733
    @peterstephens733 Před 8 měsíci +35

    The peace negotiations at this time are the elephants in the room about WW2 .This is a rich and fascinating seam of history to mine into Mark. All the best and thank you for your hard work 😊😊😊

  • @Czechbound
    @Czechbound Před 8 měsíci +4

    Goring seems like the poster boy for "In it for me". I imagine his greed for material treasures would have been monumental has he seized power

  • @rogersheddy6414
    @rogersheddy6414 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Actually,this appears to be the best possible alternate World War 2 plot line that any one could possibly pursue.
    Had Göring actually been entertained in this,and had he bumped Hitler off, I could see a potential where the Russians in Germans could have eventually been fighting each other over what they had already taken.but that,without the. Rest of Europe being involved until it was clear that 1 side or the other was going to overwhelm the other.

  • @Studio-62
    @Studio-62 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Interesting that Goering never mentioned this during his trial at Nuremberg. I suppose he knew he was doomed anyway and preferred to save face in front of his fellow defendants.

    • @andrewhart6377
      @andrewhart6377 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Maybe is was mentioned, but hushed up ?

  • @theblissfulinterzone7510
    @theblissfulinterzone7510 Před 8 měsíci +8

    As a history major, these marvelous videos show me that WW2 had so many deeper and fascinating layers to its narrative that school textbooks and the history channel skip over to focus on the larger, more commonly known events. Thanks, Dr. Felton

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci +4

      Yes the real history is totally different from the trash you see in propaganda films.

  • @catherine59226
    @catherine59226 Před 8 měsíci +53

    You have a stunning channel! You put an incredible amount of work and research into each video. Thank you.

  • @jonathanswifter2807
    @jonathanswifter2807 Před 8 měsíci +8

    A video on the purported German-Soviet peace feelers in 1942-43 would be a natural followup video.

  • @finallydone8640
    @finallydone8640 Před 8 měsíci +26

    It would be so good to see Dr Felton do a series like The World at War ,and he wouldn't even need Lawrence Olivier to narrate it

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci

      Nah WW1 doesn't have the SECRET NAZI PLOT or SECRET NAZI BUNKER or EVIL NAZI PLAN that WW2 has for Dr Felton to clickbait with.

    • @ChristopherNFP
      @ChristopherNFP Před 8 měsíci

      Ok Boomer ! 👏 👏 👏 👏

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci +55

    "Halifax was an appeaser".... yeah, that's not the impression Joseph Kennedy got when he reported "England is advising France that they should both go to war regardless of Poland" after a conversation with him

    • @newmeadam
      @newmeadam Před 8 měsíci +9

      It was never about giving things away... it was always about buying time to get ready.

    • @isidroramos1073
      @isidroramos1073 Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@newmeadam No, it was't. There was absolutely no need to buy time in 1935, when Germany was disarmed but Britain chose to sign the Anglo-German Naval Agreement without even consulting anyone, not even the French or the Italians, both signatories of the Versailles Treaty. That was most certainly giving things away... and as the Treay allowed Germany to build a fleet almost as big as the French or the Italian, and also to concentrate its rearmament on land forces, it's quite difficult not to define it as cold blood treachery, That was the first and probably the worst example of appeasement, and it was so much a choice that it's no wonder the Germans expected it to lead to an Anglo-German Alliance against France and the Soviet Union.

    • @lloydchristmas1086
      @lloydchristmas1086 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Its all about money...not defending other countries. The leaders want any excuse to go to war to fill their pockets with war industrialists money.

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@lloydchristmas1086I think you have that backwards - industrialists manipulate the politicians to push for war, so they can siphon national treasuries into their pockets. Socialize the costs, privatize the profits...

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@isidroramos1073 The UK by 1935 saw a lot of the provisions of Versailles as unjust. And seeing the AGN as appeasement is only really true with hindsight. The UK of the time saw it as trying to correct an injustice in a controlled environment.

  • @jonclassical2024
    @jonclassical2024 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Dr. Felton packs more detail and facts into 8 minutes than anyone, cheers!

  • @johnubieta8857
    @johnubieta8857 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Just when you think you know everything there is to know about WWII, in comes new information giving a completely different perspective of how things really developed. You always hear about how Göring was always sidelined and this video gives you a clearer reason why. Mr. Felton never disappoints with fresh, new and credible insight.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Lots of things we don’t know and locked away

  • @christopherscarpino8994
    @christopherscarpino8994 Před 8 měsíci +4

    An incredible story. In all my years of studying the war, I have never heard of these negotiations.

  • @SnoopReddogg
    @SnoopReddogg Před 8 měsíci +3

    I can't get the thought of Big Herman playing tennis out of my mind.

  • @troelshansen2656
    @troelshansen2656 Před 8 měsíci +28

    Hitler was never interested in a war with the west, but knew a war with ussr was inevitable

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 Před 8 měsíci +5

      That explains why he invaded western countries like France....d'oh.

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@gamerxt333 What do you expect the Germans to do once the French declared war? The can't pull off something like the Japanese vis-a-vis the Polish declaration. 'Oh we know you don't mean it and are being pressured by your allies. We'll just ignore it and pretend you never did it' simply wouldn't work.
      I'm not saying the French were the instigators (they clearly weren't), but once war was started, if you can't end it diplomatically, then invasion is the only option.

    • @haroldkreye8770
      @haroldkreye8770 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@gamerxt333In the aftermath of WWI, France oppressed Germany. I’m also sure French arrogance was a factor. Paris is fortunate that it wasn’t leveled.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. Před 8 měsíci +4

      ​@@gamerxt333France attacked Germany first. The Saar offensive of September 1939.

    • @johnnyb2909
      @johnnyb2909 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@gamerxt333
      Hitler was surprised that france and england declared war on Germany, and they sent Rudolf Hess aswell in the hope to get peace with britain

  • @Albert-Mag...
    @Albert-Mag... Před 8 měsíci +6

    I've learned so much history through watching Dr, Felton's easy-to-absorb, informative videos. Thank You so much, it's always exciting to see a new one come out....

  • @iakona23
    @iakona23 Před 8 měsíci +24

    Speaking of Sweden and spying, the William Holden film The Counterfeit Traitor is based on a true story and it is a great film!

    • @QED_
      @QED_ Před 8 měsíci

      IMDb rating: *7.5* (!)

    • @codylarkhart261
      @codylarkhart261 Před 8 měsíci

      Imdb is flawed at times. Personal Satisfaction is all that matters really@@QED_

    • @user-kt2on3zc1t
      @user-kt2on3zc1t Před 8 měsíci +1

      Good grief. Was William Holden ever in a bad movie?

    • @iakona23
      @iakona23 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@user-kt2on3zc1t He was in a lot of good movies. There must be some mediocre or bad films he was in though.

  • @jourwalis-8875
    @jourwalis-8875 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thank you, Dr Felton, from a faithful viewer in Sweden!

  • @scumskimmer
    @scumskimmer Před 8 měsíci +3

    Dr. Felton, you astound me yet again! I never knew about the Beamish family connection to Goering. I live in Cork, where their stout brewery was, and it is a completely hidden history

  • @TheSoundOutside
    @TheSoundOutside Před 8 měsíci +2

    Felton hits another one out of the park. For WWII aficionados, it doesn't get any better than this.

  • @kampfgruppepeiper501
    @kampfgruppepeiper501 Před 8 měsíci +1

    So close to 2 Million Subscribers! Great upload as always. You always know you’re going to get a well researched mini doc from Mark Felton!

  • @christiancolson
    @christiancolson Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thank you, Dr. Felton. The history of WW2 never fails to fascinate and surprise.
    It's a shame that we will all have to wait so long for the archives to give up their secrets.
    Keep up the good work.
    😊

  • @doughoback5226
    @doughoback5226 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Such great content. You never fail to bring something new, either a story like this that I had never heard or new and interesting facts to stories that have been told. Thank you Dr. Felton!

  • @brucelowe3391
    @brucelowe3391 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As always Dr. Felton does our home work. Thank you.

  • @matthewshipley739
    @matthewshipley739 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Everyday you find out more and more about the past and such things are honestly astounding to hear!

  • @r2gelfand
    @r2gelfand Před 8 měsíci +8

    So, Rudolf Hess' mission was not that far fetched.

  • @nodarkthings
    @nodarkthings Před 8 měsíci +4

    Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.

  • @doigkundtz3503
    @doigkundtz3503 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I absolutely love what Mark Felton posts. These videos have certainly changed some of my thoughts about the war. Plus I’ve learned quite a lot. Thank you Mr. Felton for making these videos.

  • @asya9493
    @asya9493 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Another excellent video and probably another 100 kids around the world who have just made their minds up to study history. Thank you Dr. Felton !

  • @user-pc9rz6xq5u
    @user-pc9rz6xq5u Před 8 měsíci +4

    Another little known fact from WWII presented in a very concise and informative format. Thank you, Dr. Felton.

  • @markymark3075
    @markymark3075 Před 8 měsíci +9

    The class dynamic in Hitlers Germany is very interesting. More please!

  • @Willigula
    @Willigula Před 8 měsíci +2

    Again, I am floored by Dr. Felton. I had never heard of this.

  • @mitchmatthews6713
    @mitchmatthews6713 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You never fail to amaze me, Mark. Cheers!

  • @carlosfaliveni2442
    @carlosfaliveni2442 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I still learning ww2 histoy, thank you Mark Felton.

  • @afternoobtea914
    @afternoobtea914 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Göring was here where I live for rehabilitation. During his visit here there where two flagpoles outside the facility (nowadays a school). One with the swedish flag and one with the nazi flag. Here is in southern Sweden in a village called Ryssby.

  • @garylangley4502
    @garylangley4502 Před 8 měsíci +14

    Wow! An amazing story. WW2 was not so cut and dry as a lot of people make it out to be.

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci +9

      Absolutely not. Its crazy how many alternate scenarios there could be based on any number of diplomatic movements. Due to the result of the war the masses have been told that it was some unique Hitler war of conquest, when actually he never even wanted to invade Poland and even offered to protect Polish rights in Danzig. Meanwhile from 1795-1918 Britain couldn't care less weather Poland was on a map or not.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci

      @@AFGuidesHD they didn’t care about. What about in 1945 did they care that year? Or was it just 39 to 44? What do you think?
      All right, so that means it’s fine that Stalin went into Poland from the East End and killed 20,000 officers dude
      I may have missed read your thing I probably did .

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci

      @@AFGuidesHD Poland got bent over by uncle Joe with a small pox acne
      Even worse by Churchill, what did Roosevelt say “these things tend to figure themselves out” let it be or something . he wrote let it be before the other guy did.
      Trademark AF guy HD, Adolf Hitler guy his page 2023 he wrote this I guess .
      “Let It Be” words from FDR inspired by every town named Berlin and to the east
      “When I find myself surrounded by Mongols
      mother MarEe comes to me
      telling me she’s been raped a few times
      let it be
      And in my DARKEST HOUR… um
      There is still a light that shines on me
      Auschwitz has new spot lights
      Let it be”
      Can somebody pin this to the top Dr. Mark please thank you if possible

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@marionapoleoni4502 Yeah they didn't care at all. I think Vansittart was probably the most honest about wanting to fight Germany to prevent them from being too powerful. Britain and certain hawkish figures only wanted Poland to fight Germany as an Eastern Front. Noel Mason-MacFarlane exquisitely says as much in his letter to the British Cabinet in March where he says "war, and war now with a near eastern front". Due to this the Brits had to prevent Poland from making a deal with Germany otherwise there'd be no Eastern Front.

    • @marionapoleoni4502
      @marionapoleoni4502 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@AFGuidesHD very interesting thank you

  • @cookiemacc5011
    @cookiemacc5011 Před 8 měsíci +10

    I INSTANTLY HIT THE LIKE BUTTON BEFORE EVEN WATCHING. I ALREADY KNOW ITS GONNA BE FIRE . TY MARK KEEP EM COMING❤❤

  • @SevereWeatherCenter
    @SevereWeatherCenter Před 8 měsíci +9

    Really like your videos Mark, very informative, and the coolest intro video ever.

  • @akula9713
    @akula9713 Před 8 měsíci +23

    In Hitlers last will and testament, he mentions the many attempts to make peace with Britain. What happened?

    • @lenny7773
      @lenny7773 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Certain parties wouldn't allow it

    • @DT-wp4hk
      @DT-wp4hk Před 8 měsíci +5

      The ones owning the British treasury?

    • @Iskelderon
      @Iskelderon Před 8 měsíci +4

      The thirst for an unconditional victory over Germany, no matter the millions of people who'd die until then.

    • @keithcitizen4855
      @keithcitizen4855 Před 8 měsíci

      What happened? well he did bomb Britain , I wonder about Galland who said same as you

    • @Iron_Wyvern
      @Iron_Wyvern Před 8 měsíci +6

      The British REALLY wanted a war. Churchill was a fanatic.

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you Mark. This vid had me turning and looking out the window for a couple minutes... so close and yet so far.

  • @rwdyeriii
    @rwdyeriii Před 8 měsíci +4

    Anyone else wish that Dr. Felton would just make a Month by Month series on WW1 and WW2 like Indy Neidell did with his week by week series?

  • @Deceiver85
    @Deceiver85 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Some swedish trivia: "Bonde" translates to Farmer, making Baron Farmer 🙃

  • @johncox2865
    @johncox2865 Před 8 měsíci

    Wonderful info, Dr. Felton. Your channel fascinates me.

  • @joerussell9574
    @joerussell9574 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks Dr. Felton! I learn many things from You that others either skim over or never mention! Thanks again!

  • @rumpstatefiasco
    @rumpstatefiasco Před 8 měsíci +5

    EXCELLENT video.
    I am riveted by all things Goring.
    He had a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver (Model 10) and a Swedish wife.
    He liked big cats.
    So far, so good. Then he created the Gestapo, and I became disappointed in his choices.
    Memento Ac Liberare Gonzalo Lira.

  • @axeljacobs9723
    @axeljacobs9723 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Always love the „mother-in-law music“ at the beginning! Scary stuff!!!🤣😂🤣

    • @nandi123
      @nandi123 Před 8 měsíci

      MIL music!!! Love it!!!🤣

  • @dasboot5903
    @dasboot5903 Před 8 měsíci +1

    OMG !!!!
    Thank U dr. Felton very much !!!!
    Göring - before the war broke out .... was a frequent visitor in the II Republic of Poland. He was seing a lot of people during his hunting in the Polish forest.

  • @stefanschleps8758
    @stefanschleps8758 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It is due to videos like this one that we acclaim this channel to be the top dog history channel for all things military, especially for WWII. Extraordinary! Excellent work Professor Felton! Kudos are in order! Brilliant expose!
    And again, thank you for sharing!

  • @brycecolwell4304
    @brycecolwell4304 Před 8 měsíci +2

    After all these years i am simply in Awe of the content this man continues to churn out. and not garbage, high quality interesting stuff from day one. I had zero idea that fat Goering had done this.

  • @TrueBrit1
    @TrueBrit1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Isn't it odd, where you have Sir this, Lord that, Baron this, prince that, King this, Ambassador that, general this, Prime Minister/President that, etc., etc., etc, massively involved with war, its outbreak and awful progression, and yet none of them ever put themselves, or their families, in harms way, but always send the commoners off to do their dirty work and become cannon fodder. It never changes, always the same.

  • @babylonsburning1
    @babylonsburning1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    So now we know why Goring let the allies escape from Dunkirk. After telling Hitler that the Luftwaffe could stop the Allies getting away, Hitler stopped the Panzers from capturing the British and French on the beaches.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always!

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Never ceases to surprise me what facts I pick up from this channel. Always thought it was Himmler that created the Gestapo. Never knew it was Goring! Or that he had Anglo Irish connections to 'Beamish' through his first wife.

  • @lars-goranwillny42
    @lars-goranwillny42 Před 8 měsíci +3

    @0:37: Price Gustaf Adolf was NOT the crown prince of Sweden. His father, Gustaf Adolf, son to king Gustav V, was the crown prince of Sweden. However, when the time had to come, crown prince Gustaf Adolf, married to Louise Mountbatten, had suggested to "step aside" from being king in favor of his son, Gustaf Adolf, to become the King of Sweden, and his wife Sibylla of Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha to become queen of Sweden.
    This did not occur though prince Gustav Adolf was killed in an KLM aircraft accident at Copehagen Airport on January 26, 1947.
    Hence his father, Gustaf Adolf had to remain crown prince until October 29, 1950 when his father king Gustaf V died, and hence Gustaf VI Adolf and queen Louise became the royal couple of Sweden.

  • @johnjacobs1625
    @johnjacobs1625 Před 8 měsíci

    Many Thanks for Sharing Dr MarK! Cheers JJ

  • @TerryC69
    @TerryC69 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Mark, the hits just keep on coming! Excellent!

  • @Martin-qd8pm
    @Martin-qd8pm Před 8 měsíci +3

    It is strange to me that the British were so hesitant to accept Görings offer or to at least explore it further. The same situation when the plotters of 20. July approached the British for support. This was also turned down. One could suspect that there were significant lobbys in Britain who had an interest in an ongoing war with Germany. I think it is a similar situation with the war in Ukrain today. Weapons are hesitantly delivered to keep the war going, instead of supplying everything needed so that the Ukrain can win quickly.

    • @celtspeaksgoth7251
      @celtspeaksgoth7251 Před 8 měsíci

      Nazis never kept their word. Anyone agreeing to their latest 'deal' would be considered a fool and treated as such. Sooner or later they would suffer the consequences of appeasement, e.g. the Molotov-von Ribbentrop Non Aggression Pact.

  • @Chris89892
    @Chris89892 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I've studied Goering extensively and had no idea that he was involved in peace overtures at this late stage of the war. Excellent find, Mark.

    • @olasek7972
      @olasek7972 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Late stage? You clearly misunderstood, the topic of this video is very early stages of the war, 1939

  • @mriamilne
    @mriamilne Před 8 měsíci

    Superb as always. Dr Felton is peerless. Ty for what you bring via this channel.

  • @danield9182
    @danield9182 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for another great video! 🎉

  • @unionjack8463
    @unionjack8463 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Does this peace proposal give some underlying rationale to the 'Phony war' period when there was a sense that both sides although at war and building defenses did not quite want to get into what became WW2 that we know now? Halifax seems to have been reserved and was replaced by Churchill. This video suggests Halifax was open to possibilities.

    • @jonathancampbell5231
      @jonathancampbell5231 Před 8 měsíci

      The "Phony War" story often leaves out that France actually invaded Germany early on, but was stalled by poor tactics and German defences, and so the decision controversially made to pull back.

  • @jjeherrera
    @jjeherrera Před 8 měsíci +6

    Interesting story. How does this relate to Hess' flight to Britain?

  • @Darkmatrix22
    @Darkmatrix22 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This is fascinating, imagine Göring displaced Hitler and subverted war? To think about where the world would be today is almost unimaginable. Thanks Mark!

  • @morningstar9233
    @morningstar9233 Před 8 měsíci

    Fascinating. Thanks Dr.F

  • @joet7285
    @joet7285 Před 8 měsíci +11

    It would be interesting to know how Goring would be able to effect a coup as Hitler was at the height of his popularity at that time and just removing him from office forcefully would have extreme ramifications throughout the military, the SS, as well as the civilian population. The only way it could have possibly been pulled off would be by assassination without possibly implicating himself in the act. History would definitely be different if had occurred. Very interesting video Dr. Felton, many thanks for posting.

    • @mikaelbohman6694
      @mikaelbohman6694 Před 8 měsíci

      Well, there was a network of anti-Hitler aristocratic high officers in the Wehrmacht who could possibly have effected a coup. But after that, who knows...

    • @xander9564
      @xander9564 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Probably, Goring would have made Hitler's death look like a tragic accident, and asked Germany to join him in mourning the loss of the great Fuehrer while he stepped in to take over.

  • @timbliss9587
    @timbliss9587 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Great video, but could you tell us what the terms of the peace agreement were supposed to be?

  • @Dustin_Bins
    @Dustin_Bins Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you for your continued efforts Dr. Felton, I agree with others in the comments that you have taught all of us very interesting facts and details that are almost unknown to most.

  • @martindrewelius2425
    @martindrewelius2425 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Imperial Germany proposed a peace agreement in 1916 too, but Britain rejected it. Goring came up with the idea.

  • @jimmybritt9537
    @jimmybritt9537 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Very interesting part of history 👍👍🇺🇸

  • @danielkrcmar5395
    @danielkrcmar5395 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Having an interconnected aristocratic elite who ruled Europe was far better than the system we have now. Just imagine Dianne Abbott attempting anything like this...

  • @slick4401
    @slick4401 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Fascinating subject. This channel is a gem.

  • @EstOptimusNobis
    @EstOptimusNobis Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excellent research Professor Felton!!

  • @spacemanspud7073
    @spacemanspud7073 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Oh yeah, I remember in William Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", Goring was also in a prewar peace plot in the days right before the Polish invasion - He tried to make a big deal of it in The Nuremberg Trials. It was also kinda "mediation between elites" (The middle man between the British and Goring was like a Scandinavian business man). This is, of course, totally at odds with other activities Goring was up to in this time, putting the genuineness of it all into question.

  • @MichaelDeAngelis-qp4jt
    @MichaelDeAngelis-qp4jt Před 8 měsíci +3

    Mark - love your docs. How do u see the war in Ukraine ending?

    • @BritishEngineer
      @BritishEngineer Před 8 měsíci

      Veeeee- might be a big debate here - qwq

    • @paranoidandroid6095
      @paranoidandroid6095 Před 8 měsíci

      It will be a ruin for us, 10 times smaller budget and 3.5 smaller population is a sentence
      But people say the Vietnamese won, US just couldn't annex something so far away and 100% different

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 Před 8 měsíci +2

      He aint an investigative journalist

    • @Kirktalon
      @Kirktalon Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@paranoidandroid6095here is to stop Putin from thinking he can take over more of the countries that the Soviet Union used to own. Besides the ukrainians are fighting the war by themselves and doing a great job. In my opinion all they need is a tools and the sanctions most of the rest of the world is putting on Russia. I'm sure you've heard of Russia inviting the leader of North Korea because they're running out of Cannon shells fired the ukrainians. Kim Jong-il just went to Russia to have a talk with Putin.

    • @Dont_Tread_on_Me448
      @Dont_Tread_on_Me448 Před 8 měsíci

      I don't see the war ending anytime soon thanks to our buddies in the military industrial complex but if it comes to a situation wherein Russia is even remotely close to losing then at least one nuke will be dropped somewhere in western Europe for sure

  • @phillipstephens3079
    @phillipstephens3079 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well done sir…more precise information giving such insight 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @travisbeck8184
    @travisbeck8184 Před 8 měsíci

    I never stop learning thanks to Dr. Felton and his wonderful videos. It’s true, sir! You have the best videos. I appreciate the photos. Thank you.

  • @RubyMarkLindMilly
    @RubyMarkLindMilly Před 8 měsíci +4

    I'd of rather dealt with Goering than Hitler

  • @vanessa1963x
    @vanessa1963x Před 8 měsíci +5

    Now we wait for the documentary about money's role in the war, how the American press swayed the American people and who benefited financially from the war.

  • @classifiedsecret6383
    @classifiedsecret6383 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I had no prior knowledge of this! Thank you for yet another excellent vid.

  • @shirleybalinski4535
    @shirleybalinski4535 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Hoenlohe- Langenburg was a distance relative to the British Monarchy through his Grandfather( who was a son of Queen Victoria).

  • @oelbaron5772
    @oelbaron5772 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Goering was also behind the last-minute negotiations in late August 1939 with the poles, using the swedish buisnessman Birger Dahlerus as an intermedeary. Would love to see a video about this!

    • @oelbaron5772
      @oelbaron5772 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Dahlerus had some interesting things to say in his memoirs about the attitude of the polish ruling class during these days.