Could Tobirama Beat The Akatsuki?

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  • čas přidán 13. 01. 2023
  • Go look at Swagkage's videos on Saskue and Jiraiya Vs the Akatsuki. I don't think I need to mention Obito. Thanks for watching guys.
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  • @RealPrxdigy
    @RealPrxdigy Před rokem +4

    Great video man 🔥💯

  • @nategraham6946
    @nategraham6946 Před rokem +52

    And Tobirama made three clones, while maintaining part of the barrier strong enough to contain the 10-Tails. So his chakra was kinda being pushed.

    • @michaelwalker8870
      @michaelwalker8870 Před rokem +12

      he could only make 3 clones with the edotensei, without more than likely 7 shadow clones. and Hashirama more than likely more than 10, remember these guys are complete power houses. It's not really right to compare the 2 brothers with each other but even when you do the fact that Tobirama can still hold his own against a mangekyou Madara for a while in a serious battle though not as long as his brother, i think it's worth noting. Tobirama is a water freak and has massive reserves of chakra i'd say a bit more than a tailed beast somewhere between more than the 8 tails and a bit less than the 9 tails. His intelligence cannot be undermined as well as his combat prowess, him being in war since a child plays a huge factor in all his battles. i believe he would see the akatsuki as a threat but not to him lol. He is a strategist, which is what i love about his character . always thinking ahead

    • @nategraham6946
      @nategraham6946 Před rokem

      @@michaelwalker8870 I agree.

    • @late-nightlivestreams7105
      @late-nightlivestreams7105 Před rokem

      @@michaelwalker8870 pain would stomp tobirama no dif

    • @FearShigo
      @FearShigo Před rokem +5

      @@late-nightlivestreams7105nah Tobi is too smart he would make a plan and destroy pain no diff same way he did izuna

    • @late-nightlivestreams7105
      @late-nightlivestreams7105 Před rokem

      @@FearShigo lmao that’s an unpopular opinion my guy, good luck selling that one. He lost to gin & jin whom are so much weaker than pain… Pain casually scales over 2nd, but… look up a video try swagkage or 6 or idk just check around and find the power scaling feats. Tbh the 2nd hokage is almost the weakest kage of all time he’s barely above mai

  • @SaberEBW
    @SaberEBW Před rokem +7

    None of the Akatsuki scale to Tobirama. Tobirama is just in a different league, almost entirely.

  • @jeffreymorgan8687
    @jeffreymorgan8687 Před rokem +17

    I think Tobirama just has a lot of battle experiences and battle smarts and that alone is a huge advantage. He survived the first Great War and I think that says a lot. I’m not saying others don’t have battle smarts but he fought along side the first hokage and against madara and lived so

  • @B00MR0ASt3D
    @B00MR0ASt3D Před rokem +29

    I fell victim to the Tobirama downplay years back but now it’s honestly so confusing to me.
    It is established that he is faster than prime Madara, hashirama and juubito
    Has AP strong enough to break the deity gates that tanked attacks from the 10 tails, and cut through the god like butter
    He has the flying thunder God, Edo Tensei, shadow clones, all five chakra natures, and is one of the two best water users of all time.
    He’s tough as nails
    And on top all that He’s the smartest character in the series
    madara, a person who only respects power, respected the hell out of Tobirama, and he barely respected anyone. He was on his level from the beginning and there was no statement of that changing or Tobirama becoming irrelevant.
    How the HELL is that Sanin level…

    • @narutoscaling4599
      @narutoscaling4599 Před rokem +8

      W comment.
      I think people downplay him because he said that Base Minato was better at using Body Flicker (wich people confuse with FTG).
      But even if it was FTG, Minato having better FTG is the same as Kabuto having a better Edo Tensei. So I don't get how they assume that Tobirama sucks because of that

    • @B00MR0ASt3D
      @B00MR0ASt3D Před rokem +6

      I honestly think it’s just cuz (while fatigued and trying to keep them off of his team) he lost to the gold and silver force who were 20 Elite shinobi with two 9 tails Jinchuriki (Jiraiya almost died to 4tails kid Naruto) wielding the so6p weapons that were stated to make you stronger than the 5 Kage in a data book.
      The 2nd had a team that consisted of Tobirama, Kagami Uchiha, an akimichi, a kunoichi who mast have been top tier to be with them, possibly another Uchiha, young (possibly prime) Hiruzen, and young Danzo… absolutely stacked, and that team looked at the Kinkaku force and said “no way we can take them”
      After being heavily nerfed by edo tensei, not both being in their final form, not using their weapons, without their team and getting super unlucky… they were battering an entire fleet that had a future Raikage, multiple Jonin level fighters, and multiple members from the Konoha 12 which is the most prodigious group ever. The Sanin are using team work are considered at 9x power compared to how strong they are individually and ino shika cho is considered better at teamwork than even them. THEY ARE NO JOKE. Beyond Kage level, they are Demi god level at full power.

    • @narutoscaling4599
      @narutoscaling4599 Před rokem +5

      @@B00MR0ASt3D So true, It's even stated that if you have enough chakra to wield the six paths tools you become stronger than the Five Kage. and adding Kyuubi cloaks on and then 18+ S rank (Sanin-Akatsuki Level). So brutal
      Just thinking about a team who has Kagami Uchiha (the strongest uchiha at the time) Prime Hiruzen (stronger than Hashirama) and Tobirama (stated faster than Madara himself) and a couple of elite shinobi, all of them being like : "No we can't take them".
      It still irritates me how badly the community downplays Tobirama and w`nks Minato.
      I just talked with a guy who thinks KCM Minato could beat Jubidara. And the reason he gave me was that because tobirama is praising Minato means that Base Minato is stronger than Tobirama wich is faster than Madara so by "basic scaling" with KCM he sould be compared to Jubidara and would blitz Hashirama.
      On my mom the Minato fanboys are the most anyoing part of the community

    • @B00MR0ASt3D
      @B00MR0ASt3D Před rokem +4

      @@narutoscaling4599 yeah, it’s weird because the yellow flash is cool as hell and everyone hyped him up and makes him sound so strong but he has so many anti-feats and statements that people just want to ignore.
      Rasenshuriken Naruto is stated to have better Ap, sage Naruto is said to have surpassed him, KCM1 scales to being faster than him in combat speed based on the Raikage statements, he admittedly struggles with 13 yo obito, he doesn’t figure out who the masked man is, he doesn’t figure out sage chakra is needed for juubito even though Naruto and Tobirama did, he almost lost the bell test to kid Kakashi, he let obito and rin “die”, he was getting folded in the war, he’s not good at sage mode, he let young killer b get the drop on him, like alllllllll that evidence just points to him just being just a Kage level fighter

    • @narutoscaling4599
      @narutoscaling4599 Před rokem +6

      @@B00MR0ASt3D Yeah, and people claim he is "dazed" but the original kanji literally translates to being SAD, Minato wasn't in a Daze, Minato was just Sad. This man has more Anti Feats than feats.
      I really like Minato because of all the hype and it took a while for me to swallow the fact that Tobirama would wash KCM2 Minato.
      I saw Swagkage literally put Sage Mode Jiraya and 4 Tails Naruto above Tobirama. It just blew my mind. That the biggest Naruto powerscaler, literally puts Base Minato above Base Hashirama.
      He made a video about Minato vs Tobirama, and it was just so bad for Tobirama, he made 0 arguments for Tobirama and also mentioned 0 anti feats for Minato but decided to go all out on Tobirama anti feats (Kin and gin wich isn't even an anti feat) and then when he says "Madara stated that Tobirama was the fastest of his time" but THAT COULD MEAN ANYTHING.
      Like I don't usually get mad at Naruto content but that Tobirama vs Minato absolutely made me furious.
      Guess I went on a little bit of a rant there, my bad, but I had to express this rage inside me

  • @drowning.macaco
    @drowning.macaco Před rokem +35

    edo tobirama who was bitzed by juubito was able to place 10 paper bombs and the ftg seal on him, also he fought uchiha his entire life so he surely knows how to deal with genjutsu, literally him raising his finger scares sasue orochimaru and suigetsu, tbh i think he has itachi like mid/high diff and then he loses to pain but its like extreme difficulty

    • @phoenixnuhl
      @phoenixnuhl Před rokem +4

      I think he has a better chance against pain than Itachi. He’s the perfect counter for pain and way stronger than Sage Naruto. Itachi was going blow for blow with kcm naruto, who was comparable to Minato in speed, who is faster than Tobirama. And he has hacks on top of hacks on top of hacks. I think he and possibly Obito are hard counters to Tobirama. Both good fights though.

    • @joshuaperry2426
      @joshuaperry2426 Před rokem +5

      He might know how to deal with regular genjutsu but he most certainly can't do anything against tsukuyomi, it's unbreakable and the damage happens in a fraction of the second

    • @drowning.macaco
      @drowning.macaco Před rokem +1

      ​@@joshuaperry2426 he literally killed izuna who has a mangekyou sharingan, omg tsukuyomi doesnt happen in 0,000000000001 seconds its 2023 and i am genuinly shocked that peope are still saying this, the torture lasts 3 days tobrama has all the time in the world to break that especially since itachi's chackra is a butterfly compared to itachi's

    • @joshuaperry2426
      @joshuaperry2426 Před rokem

      @@drowning.macaco it's been stated in Itachi shinden(which is completely cannon btw) that the user of tsukuyomi is given complete control of time in the victims mind, in the novel he makes izumi uchiha experience an entire lifetime in a fraction of a second. It's 2023 i hope you know that a lifetime doesn't pass in 3 days, on top of that it's been stated in the data books that tsukuyomi is unbreakable, the victim knows he's under genjutsu but can't do anything about it (just like in Kakashi's case) it's said that someone with a mangekyo can resist the tsukuyomi to some degree and it can only be broken by someone who's related to the user by blood. Tobirama CAN'T break out of it. You're just getting your 3 days stat cause Itachi made Kakashi experience 3 days, bro he was an ally of the leaf and didn't wanna kill kakashi,izuna had the mangekyo but i highly doubt if he was as strong as Itachi, get your facts straight dumbass

    • @drowning.macaco
      @drowning.macaco Před rokem +2

      @@joshuaperry2426 the umbreacable tsukuyomi was broken by sasuke btw and even if you say he is holding back it proves it can be broken, novels are not canon, they are not written by kishimoto and there for they arent, you can see that about boruto you see the difference of quality after the author changes, and the ammount of bullshit they put out theyr ass, if tsukuyomi killed you in 0,000000000001 and it was umbreacable why didnt itachi used that on pain since he doesnt a mangekyou sharinagn? or on kabuto since they clearly make eye contact for some time

  • @michaelwalker8870
    @michaelwalker8870 Před rokem +1

    I love how keep the fights IN CHARACTER. i havent seen too many people dig into the lore and books to get the full scoop and scope of what these monsters are capable.

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      I really appreciate that man

  • @brodyday6509
    @brodyday6509 Před rokem

    Keep up the akatsuki slayer vids please ( Danzo vs would give me such a half chub )

  • @numberhunter62
    @numberhunter62 Před rokem +21

    Special Jounin actually exist in Naruto, referred to as Tokubetsu Jounin, and they are in fact weaker than true Jounin. So you probably should have compared Asuma to the true elite shinobi like Kakashi.

    • @BUKAANWAH
      @BUKAANWAH Před rokem +1

      Asúma is actually a special Jonin. He is one of the guards selected to protect the fire lords or whatever. They never go into detail and the only other guy I can remember is some monk guy who also has that hankerchief towel he wears dangling on his waist. So honestly his status is irrelevant lmao but he is indeed special just never elaborated and the show power scaled up so fast after the forest of death/fingers of death in Naruto’s booty Bell test

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 Před rokem +7

      @@BUKAANWAH He's a flat out jounin, Special jounin are those like Anko and Ibiki.

    • @BUKAANWAH
      @BUKAANWAH Před rokem

      @@numberhunter62 Im referring to the scarf he wears on his waist. Take a look into what that means. Asuma can summon the spirit of a God and he did during that fight.

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 Před rokem +3

      @@BUKAANWAH That’s the Guardian Shinobi 12, something completely different.

    • @narutoscaling4599
      @narutoscaling4599 Před rokem

      Being a special Jounin doesn't make you weak. Genma was taking on S Rank level Baki (the strongest in the sand) byhimself. During the series we are only shown the top of the top shinobi, and it's like people don't recognise that.
      Aoba has more chakra than Killer Bee and Kabuto was like "There you are, Oh Aoba too..."
      both Genma and Raido used to be the BODYGUARDS of Minato, the ones responsible for protecting the Yellow Flash.
      Anko straight up has jutsu speed compared to Pre-Sage Mode Kabuto
      Asuma is stated almost equals to Kakashi
      Choza is stated the strongest war potential of the Leaf and can keep up with the Gedo Mazo
      Kurenai is stated to have equal genjutsu to Itachi, the only reason itachi won was because he had a COUNTER GENJUTSU thanks to his sharingan (I could be wrong on this one).
      Inuzuka Tsume the strongest from the Inuzuka clan (Kiba's clan). Kiba the one who later was cutting up Giant TenTails Minions.
      Hayate (chunin exams) Kabuto thought he was strong enough to be brought back with the Edo Tensei.
      This are the ones I can think about, people think that this are like mid tier jonin but all of them have insane feats compared to a "regular Jonin" like Koketsu.

  • @Agent-Spear
    @Agent-Spear Před rokem +5

    Need more videos like this, Tobirama could beat them with his techniques and fast thinking

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      There may be another Tobirama video coming sooner than you think

    • @Agent-Spear
      @Agent-Spear Před rokem

      @@catchdog Let's gooooo, More Tobirama!!

  • @Pain91130
    @Pain91130 Před rokem +2

    I just don't understand why Tobirama is that much underestimated.
    Saying he's only sannin level is just totally WRONG.
    Tobirama can react to Sage Madara
    > chapter 661/7
    The same Madara who, without Sage Mode, can litteraly blitz Sage Naruto who's litteraly portrayed many times to be above the sannins.
    > chapter 657/5
    And I can also add that a weaker version of sage Naruto was able to blitz some paths of Pain
    > chapter 430/17
    > chapter 434/3
    Sage Madara is stated to be stronger than Edo Madara.
    The same Edo Madara who can easily react to KCM2 Naruto
    > chapter 601/13
    Who obviously scale above KCM1 Naruto who's stronger than when he fought Pain.
    I can also add that Tobirama can litteraly react to Juubito and put 5 explosive tags + 1 hiraishin mark on his body
    > chapter 639/2
    > chapter 641/3
    The same Juubito who perception-blitzed MKCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke
    > chapter 639/17
    Who both grown stronger compared to the begining of the war where they had already reached Edo Itachi's level.
    > chapter 549/6
    > chapter 585/5/6/7
    > Databook 4/Sasuke Uchiha: [Brother fight together]
    So yeah. Tobirama scales WAAAAAY above the sannins.
    He would just blitz any of the akatsuki members without even sweating. That's not even close bruh
    And I would also mention that dying against Ginkaku and Kinkaku is NOT an anti feat.
    First of all, it's confirmed that the first encounter was a surprise attack according to the Raikage.
    And during the second attack, Kinkaku and Ginkaku where litteraly with 20 Elite Shinobi with an unknown lvl. So taking this into argument for downplaying Tobirama is not good at all because we don't even know how strong the 20 others ninja where.
    Taking this off-screen fight like an anti-feat without even knowing what did it really happened is like saying Hashirama is a fodder because he didn't killed Kakuzu while Kakashi was able to kill him.
    And we can also easily make the argument that Tobirama was out of chakra as he didn't even tried to teleport away with his team while he would have easily did it if he could (he has a mark at Konoha).
    As we know he litteraly teleported 2 giants Kurama avatar during WA without even sweating. So yeah...
    And I didn't even talked about his AP who scale far above any of the Akatsuki member's durability

  • @darnelhays7999
    @darnelhays7999 Před rokem +2

    Tobirama blitzes them all free

  • @Celestial-rn4vm
    @Celestial-rn4vm Před rokem +2

    I can comfortably say, that Tobirama is way above the sanin.
    He raised a finger, and that imrpessed everyone in the room, where also Orochimaru was present.
    Thats no feat, but enough to convince me.
    Not to mention that he was even with the brother of Madara in times of war,
    till he surpassed him with the flying rajin, which killls/wounds most people that dont know about it and are seeing it first time.

  • @SGT_HAWK_YT
    @SGT_HAWK_YT Před rokem +1

    Please make a video about characters like HANZO and MU ( Second tuschikage) they are really strong

  • @Henrysucks_at_Nxb
    @Henrysucks_at_Nxb Před rokem +7

    In conclusion
    Tobirama would dog walk the Akatsuki 💀

    • @L17_8
      @L17_8 Před rokem +1

      Itachi and pain dogwalk tobirama

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před rokem +3

      @@L17_8
      Tobirama scales to pre-juubito fight EMS Sasuke

  • @RipVonGraves
    @RipVonGraves Před rokem

  • @hikariizuki1693
    @hikariizuki1693 Před rokem +3

    I think Sasori is a tricky one. If it's a battle where he can hide himself I think he can put hundreds of traps with his 100 puppets technique that could potentially kill tobirama with just a scratch. with his puppet body, I don't know how good he can hide from tobirama, but if it makes him harder to be found then he could be more troublesome than kakuzu

    • @Romanj28
      @Romanj28 Před rokem +1

      If Chiyo and Sakura were able to react to the needles Tobirama would speed blitz Sasori

    • @hikariizuki1693
      @hikariizuki1693 Před rokem +2

      @@Romanj28 let's be real, if Sasori seriously used all traps within his 100 puppet, chio and Sakura would be dead.
      But yeah, tobirama could use hiraishin to get out of the trap easy if he managed to notice it before any of the poison needle hit him, everyone with hiraishin is a nightmare to be honest.
      But what I'm talking about up there is not when tobirama already knows he's fighting Sasori or poison users. Yes I don't think he could hit tobirama easily, but if tobirama didn't know about the poison and let go of a few scratches then he would be dead.

  • @Limb0117
    @Limb0117 Před rokem

    Can you do Minato? Would love your opinion on him against the top 3 :) thanks for the vid

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the comment my guy, possibly in the future!

    • @MrJAMESTAKER
      @MrJAMESTAKER Před rokem +1

      Minato would dominate them easily Pain struggled with half of kurama

    • @MrJAMESTAKER
      @MrJAMESTAKER Před rokem

      @@hennigod8957 pain your joking right pain was struggling against HALF of 6 tails Kurama and got dominated by sage Naruto who’s not even on the same level as jonin Minato and Itachi wouldn’t die from lack of charka just trying to keep up with Minato stop the cap Minato would dominate every single last member of The Akatsuki they don’t even scale to kurama

  • @Jaymayne8593
    @Jaymayne8593 Před rokem +4

    Tobirama would destroy deidara idk why u think that would be a good fight. Tobirama literally killed izuna who had a mangekyo and sasuke beat deidara without it. That should tell u everything u need to know right there

  • @noahblevins9569
    @noahblevins9569 Před rokem +1

    Kin and Gin have the sage of 6 paths weapons, which automatically places them at kage level based on databook statements.
    Add their natural strength, and then their 9 tails chakra, and they are very clearly above sannin power.

  • @jakku1110
    @jakku1110 Před rokem +2

    Tobirama is stronger than EMS Sasuke who can equal KCM Naruto in power. So Tobirama > EMS Sasuke = KCM1 Naruto > Rampage Naruto that fought Pain ≈ Pain. EMS Sasuke as you said is as strong as Alive Itachi, so Tobirama > EMS Sasuke = Itachi.

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Před rokem +1

    Itachi & Pain have ways to counter "normal people jutsu" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tythegreatttg
    @tythegreatttg Před rokem

    Sasori vs Kakazu can the iron sand get pass the diamond armor?

  • @samuelafolayan2043
    @samuelafolayan2043 Před rokem +1

    y'all forgetting tobirama is a sensory type ninja and knows a lot about sharingan users, i'd bet on him to win against sick itachi

    • @marwyn8152
      @marwyn8152 Před rokem

      Itachi can't be detected by sensors.

  • @Patrick33194
    @Patrick33194 Před rokem +3

    Sasori doesn't scale to the 3rd kazekage for killing him.
    He killed him by secretly poisoning him trough his water supply or sth for a rly long time and then killed what was left of him when he couldn't rly fight anymore, right??

    • @ShadowFiend777
      @ShadowFiend777 Před rokem +2

      "He killed him by secretly poisoning him"
      Can you prove that?

    • @Patrick33194
      @Patrick33194 Před rokem

      @@ShadowFiend777
      No, but I think this was the last person I heard talk ab it. (From 1 min into the vid on)
      "The hidden story of how Sasori became imortal"

    • @ohboi9578
      @ohboi9578 Před rokem

      @@Patrick33194 non canon material

  • @527bodie
    @527bodie Před rokem +4

    You must be on drugs I'd you think itachi beats tobirama a man known fir killing Uchiha

  • @Noblesavage31
    @Noblesavage31 Před rokem

    The thing I hate about versus battles is when people scale from part1 to part two the thing is to ride it was a sanin and they wanted to make him seem very close to hokage level at that time even Itachi wasn’t meant to be hokage level the power creep in Shippuden sort of nerfed what jiraya is meant to be cause if you ask me might guy would slap most the alatsuki as the data book in shippiden says he isn’t infrior to any of them, even obito as he never opens the gate to battle him he did it while in base albeit he had assistance

  • @SoullessFN
    @SoullessFN Před rokem

    Deidara is fast as fuck

  • @johnstrife7
    @johnstrife7 Před 6 měsíci

    Short answer: Yes

  • @marvinmiller2871
    @marvinmiller2871 Před rokem +2

    Bro these scaling make no sense from the first to the fourth hokage stamps all of the akatsuke period, hashirama, tobirama and Minato are literally at the gate keeper of Demi gods in the naruto verse. Plus tobirama is close madara level interm of power.

  • @527bodie
    @527bodie Před rokem +2

    Wtf did I just watch itachi don't stand a chance he loses hard

  • @SoullessFN
    @SoullessFN Před rokem

    Deidara dodged a body flicker from hebi sasuke that blitzed suigestu and juugo

  • @Reconciliations
    @Reconciliations Před rokem

    Sasori slowly poisoned the third kazekage

  • @luciferpitchblack3217

    Pain and Kisame both said Orochimaru had more Chakra than him

  • @mymatemacca
    @mymatemacca Před rokem

    Ur crack up bro, I'll watch Ur shit

  • @garyfly1991
    @garyfly1991 Před rokem +1

    Just a random thought but couldn't tobirama just counter pain and itachi with his infinite darkness jutsu?

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      I did mention it in the video, Itachi can somewhat sense your location because he was able to stab Orochimaru while he was blind

    • @garyfly1991
      @garyfly1991 Před rokem

      @@catchdog true I was just thinking infinite darkness would improve tobirama's chances against their visual jutsu like amaterasu

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem

      @@garyfly1991 I will talk about Tobirama again so I will mention this ability for sure next time

    • @alexproctor524
      @alexproctor524 Před rokem

      I mean yes but we’ve never seen an actual rinnegan user caught in a genjutsu of any kind at least a uchiha/otsutski idk about pain but I can’t imagine he was ever genjutsu’d either. So even if he catches itachi he’s still gotta deal with either the six paths or which might be a little much for him or nagato using the rinnegan solo which might also be disgustingly mismatched in nagatos favor just off the fact that since he’s uzumaki the chakra reserves are damn near equal and he had a RINNEGAN lmao it’s just hacks lol there’s a reason kishimoto didn’t write nagato like obito or madara because he would slap the verse up until the aliens with his mastery & chakra if he was vicious and blood lusted

  • @HotPepperLala
    @HotPepperLala Před 10 měsíci

    I m pretty sure Orochimaru was sick even when he transformed into the giant snake, so itachi didn't exactly "kill" full power Orochimaru. Orochimaru's strongest jutsu is Edo Tensei.
    19:21 well dont' just "whatever happened there", he died to like 10+ other Ninjas at like Jonin+ level, thats like 10 Kakashis. I can't imagine Itachi killing 10 Kakashis on his own and surviving the fight.
    21:31 but that was Izuna did possess MS before he died to Tobirama and Izuna still lost.
    I will concede Tobimara losing to Nagato, but Tobimara doesn't completely fold to Itachi like you claim.

  • @gersainc.
    @gersainc. Před rokem +1

    Tobirama in not sannin level he easily beat itachi and mid diff pain.

  • @digitaldugal007
    @digitaldugal007 Před rokem +5

    Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Pain himself stated that Jiraiya would have won had he known his secret, implying that Jiraiya was stronger.
    Obito was stronger than both Pain and Itachi. Minato beat Obito.
    There’s nothing to say that Mianto surpassed Jiriaya. So, again, you keep going on about these guys being Sanin killers. Don’t forget that Orochimaru had his hands sealed and couldn’t really fight to his full capabilities when Itachi sealed him.

    • @jaylenakinola
      @jaylenakinola Před rokem +4

      That doesn’t imply that jiraiya was stronger because naruto who had a stronger sage mode and all the prep jiraiya could’ve had still lost against a weakened pain

    • @savageedits7381
      @savageedits7381 Před rokem

      wait did you just say minato never surpassed jiraiya?

    • @jaytheshwatchyomouth5544
      @jaytheshwatchyomouth5544 Před rokem

      @Xay this guys knows what he’s talking about and has facts to bk it up 😎

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před rokem

      That's because Pain held back the majority of the fight. If he went all out from the jump Jiraiya would not have been able to use Frog Song.

  • @SoullessFN
    @SoullessFN Před rokem

    No indication that sasuke got much faster in war arc until last arc

  • @Kinsjeem
    @Kinsjeem Před 8 měsíci

    Bruh pain and itachi aren’t reacting to 10 tails speed blitzing nor madara when he was revived. How tf they reacting to tobirama

  • @T0NE1585
    @T0NE1585 Před rokem +1

    You dudes in here are crazy if you think tobirama is lower then itachi or pain when he was fighting tagging jubito an would’ve got the drop on madara if not for sage mode an rinngan an that still wasn’t full power tobirama who said he was only brought back closer to his original power

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      Edo went a long way to help out Tobirama

    • @hyruleking8116
      @hyruleking8116 Před rokem

      That’s Edo though, not alive/regular

    • @T0NE1585
      @T0NE1585 Před rokem

      @@hyruleking8116 edo is weaker then alive even madara said you an your brother haven’t recovered your full power tobirama stated he was only brought back closer to his original power indicating he was stronger then his edo state

  • @Govanna348
    @Govanna348 Před rokem

    How did tobirama died again 🥱

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před rokem

      He died fighting 20 high level shinobi while out of chakra

  • @Ramen_Lord101
    @Ramen_Lord101 Před rokem

    I’m sorry bro but You we’re wrong when you said Tobirama couldn’t beat Pain or Itachi like literally Tobirama has an Arsenal that counters anything Uchiha related and as for pain the bringer of darkness Justu would work most definitely and as for tandem paper bomb tobirama has used that Justu during the warring states period and he used to throw tags on his shadow clones and if he got the opportunity to resurrect any dead people or Allie’s of an enemy clan he would put tandem paper bomb tags on them as well basically suicide bombs into enemy lines and disrupting their plans. Imagine with all these explosions going around you’re not going to noticed him instantly teleporting to you because you’ll already be dead even if you’re able to see his chakra nature with your sharingan through the smoke and aftershock of the explosions you’ll be dead before you know it.
    As for Pain Jiraiya Almost won if he was prepared and not only that knew the actual weakness of the pain puppets. Tobirama would most definitely use a sealing Justu follow by genjustu and he also has WAAAAY more chakra than Nagato. Senju clan outside of the Otsusuki clan have the most chakra NOT the Uzumaki

    • @shrimp4727
      @shrimp4727 Před 4 měsíci

      Sealing and genjutsu will not work on pain because rinnegan can see Tobiramas chakra also he has way less chakra than Nagato not even close.

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza2066 Před rokem

    And he would kill Itachi but would spare kisame
    Don't ask why

  • @tythegreatttg
    @tythegreatttg Před rokem

    I don't think pain hit sage mode Naruto I think pain just out lasted sage mode Naruto

  • @frxtheraptor8671
    @frxtheraptor8671 Před rokem

    Tobirama beats :
    Zetsu (high jonin tier) no diff
    Hidan(high jonin tier)no diff
    Konan(low kage tier)low to no diff
    Deidara(mid kage tier)mid diff
    Sasori(mid kage tier)mid diff
    Kakuzu(mid kage tier)mid diff
    Kisame (high kage tier) high diff
    Alive itachi (high kage tier) high diff
    But gets beat by
    Edo Itachi (Beyond kage tier) extreme diff
    Pain(Beyond kage tier ) extreme diff
    Edo Nagato(Beyond kage tier) high diff
    Obito orange mask (Beyond kage tier)
    High diff
    War arc obito(Beyond kage tier) mid diff
    Juubito(Semi god tier) No diff.

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před 10 měsíci

      Tobirama slaps Kisame. He also beats Pain.

  • @jacryptid773
    @jacryptid773 Před rokem

    Tobirama beats itachi but pain definitely beats tobirama, tobirama is stronger than all the Sannin combined tho, and tobirama is better than all his Edo versions shown so its still a close fight

    • @ShadowFiend777
      @ShadowFiend777 Před rokem +1

      "tobirama is stronger than all the Sannin combined"
      You're definitely capping here.

    • @jacryptid773
      @jacryptid773 Před rokem

      @@ShadowFiend777 ok the only sannin he would have trouble with is orochimaru, he takes care of tsunade and jirayia pretty easy

  • @king3d_prettycoolmoney
    @king3d_prettycoolmoney Před rokem +27

    Sasori is only scaled low by sexists who ignore the fact that Chiyo was Hanzo’s rival and Sakura is one of the strongest characters in the show.

    • @FolkBoyify
      @FolkBoyify Před rokem +9

      Sexists lol

    • @takatotakasui8307
      @takatotakasui8307 Před rokem +1

      It's true

    • @Josephextreme
      @Josephextreme Před rokem +1

      But remember. Sasori low key wanted to die and most of the work was done by Chiyo controlling Sakura. Sakura is still one of the strongest characters though for sure

    • @rezhaadriantanuharja3389
      @rezhaadriantanuharja3389 Před rokem +1

      Chiyo who was way past her prime and Sakura at the very beginning of Shippuden, who was still at chuunin level at the time and couldn’t defeat Kakashi even working together with Naruto.
      He also lost to Konan and Orochimaru twice, although only in filler.

    • @takatotakasui8307
      @takatotakasui8307 Před rokem +2

      @@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 Hiruzen was way past his prime but still stronger than everyone else

  • @azureascendant994
    @azureascendant994 Před rokem +5

    What makes this scenario worse is that the manga never shown Tobirama at his epitome of skill and ability. We don't really know the true extent of Tobirama's power. He fought Kurama's hellspawn twins so Tobirama would solo most of the Akatsuki, the only difficulty he'd face would be Pain.

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +7

      That's why we need a Tobirama manga so we can see what he is truly capable of

    • @azureascendant994
      @azureascendant994 Před rokem +6

      @@catchdog Exactly, That's why I voted for Tobirama in the poll. Though I doubt we will ever get a manga about him...

    • @uchiha_itachi1507
      @uchiha_itachi1507 Před rokem +2

      ​@@azureascendant994 alot down play tobirama but they forget that he fought them while being exhausted and they having 20 others with them so 22v1 and Tsunade says near death she didn't say they killed him I interpret it as he survived the battle but couldn't get medical attention in time and die later on. Also there is no mention on how the gold and silver bros die. Yes they were able to recognize the black panther marking on Darui but im sure there is an explanation besides them living to see the 3rd raikage to place on someone.

    • @azureascendant994
      @azureascendant994 Před rokem +2

      @@uchiha_itachi1507 That's why a Tobirama centered manga needs to happen. We need answers.

    • @jaytheshwatchyomouth5544
      @jaytheshwatchyomouth5544 Před rokem +1

      @@uchiha_itachi1507 THIS WAS THE LINE I WAS HOPING SOMEONE FINALLY SAID 😭omfg this guy was thinking all the debate on Tobi. Vs all the akatsuki only one he would have probably tough time with is pain first and of all he’s a senju so he’s punches are fk haymakers mfk hits you anywhere in your face taking your head off 😂

  • @mode4148
    @mode4148 Před rokem

    Tobirama will beat itachi and lose to pain

  • @kosilver77
    @kosilver77 Před rokem

    🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @rezhaadriantanuharja3389

    Tobirama: I had been kicking Uchiha’s bottom since I was a boy
    Itachi: I annihilated the whole Uchiha clan when I was a boy
    Tobirama: Umm… I had been …
    Itachi: In a single night
    Tobirama: I was ….
    Itachi: to protect the village and shinobi world overall
    Tobirama: I admit defeat

    • @billyboleson2830
      @billyboleson2830 Před rokem

      With help from obito*

    • @rezhaadriantanuharja3389
      @rezhaadriantanuharja3389 Před rokem +1

      @@billyboleson2830 he’d be even more impressed that Itachi managed to talk no jutsu another Uchiha into finishing the clan

    • @billyboleson2830
      @billyboleson2830 Před rokem

      @@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 an uchiha that everyone thinks is madara

    • @phogetta1
      @phogetta1 Před rokem

      Tobirama: I'm gonna put u on the police force.

  • @adambailey8129
    @adambailey8129 Před rokem

    Answers no, didn't even need to watch the video

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před 10 měsíci

      The answer is yes, actually. He does beat the Akatsuki.

  • @Boyboyzola
    @Boyboyzola Před rokem

    No he doesn’t Pain and Itachi is more then enough

    • @catchdog
      @catchdog  Před rokem +1

      Literally what I said in the video

    • @billyboleson2830
      @billyboleson2830 Před rokem

      He blitzes and kills pain

    • @Boyboyzola
      @Boyboyzola Před rokem

      @@billyboleson2830 😂😂😂stop the troll

    • @orca5558
      @orca5558 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Boyboyzola its true actually
      Pain is weaker than kcm Naruto and tobirama was able to scare EMS sasuke and EMS sasuke = kcm naruto

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@catchdog
      So you think Tobirama, who bitched the kid who surpassed Itachi, with one finger, loses to Itachi?

  • @uchiha_itachi1507
    @uchiha_itachi1507 Před rokem +1

    You down play my boi sasori hard lol he let sakura and chiyo win. Tobirama would still win but sasori scales higher than sakura and chiyo during that ArC

  • @JohnJohnson-do3db
    @JohnJohnson-do3db Před rokem +2

    Sorry but alive tobirama has no ap to beat kisame with his regeneration. Tobirama could only beat kisame without samehada, and even then it’d be very hard for him to win. Also, sasori is above sannin level since he should be in the same tier as hanzo, but tobirama should still win.

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před rokem

      Is Kisame capable of surviving his head being removed from his body?

    • @ActuallyAlask
      @ActuallyAlask Před rokem

      @xay6431
      I agree

  • @hokage8426
    @hokage8426 Před rokem +4

    Tobirama could beat everyone up to Kisame then he loses. He doesn’t beat the top 4. (Kisame, Nagato, Obito, Itachi)
    Kisame is stronger, way better Chakra pool and is the better water style user.
    Nagato has dojutsu and is simply put waay more versatile than him. Nothing he could do would be of use
    Obito has sharingan and kamui and hashirama cells .tobirama has no counters
    Itachi is Itachi

    • @momotheone9700
      @momotheone9700 Před rokem +6

      I think tobirama would clap kisame, yes kisame has better waterstyle feat, but tobirama is not leagues behind,plus tobirama is faster and smarter than kisame, i can see tobirama letting kisame think he gets the win then tobirama just snipe him with a marker he placed on him before, when minato is famous for ftg kisame would expect it from minato, but he would not expect it from tobirama, and i doubt hes gonna get any chakra from tobirama to amp his samehada fusion, i think tobirama got the win against kisame.
      as for itachi i think it can go either way, yes itachi is crazy has all this op scaling, speed scaling high, powerful, but if you look at tobirama hes a direct counter to uchiha, uchiha has firestyle, tobirama is water style master, he has the darkness genjutsu for the sharingan, and for the perception of the sharingan, tobirama has FTG, so while i think it can go either eay, if itachi wins its not gonna be a stomp plus tobirama has way more chakra.
      As for pain, it depends on how good tobirama is at ftg, but as for obito i think tobirama loses that( he might lose to pain as well mind you, just think he stands a better time against pain than obito, never heard tobirama ever fought a teleporter he might be fast enough to work out kamui and still lose).

    • @im_aditya_sharma
      @im_aditya_sharma Před rokem +2

      @@momotheone9700 only reason i can see tobirama losing to obito will be because of hashirama cells.
      He was equal to madara(without his eternal mangekyo sharingan).

    • @BUKAANWAH
      @BUKAANWAH Před rokem +1

      I think he has a good shot with Itachi. He better. Than been killing war hardened sharingans all his life. If he doesn’t then it’s just like the tragedy of him and kinkakoo ginkakoo

    • @SyedAli-gl7jq
      @SyedAli-gl7jq Před rokem +1

      @@BUKAANWAH edo itachi beats tobirama

    • @BUKAANWAH
      @BUKAANWAH Před rokem

      @@SyedAli-gl7jq edo Itachi ended the war . We would have never made it to óbito or kaguya