FX30 seems like a great camera for filmmakers who are going to set up shots and do their own lighting. For run and gun weddings, I agree that the 12 MP Full Frame is going to be tough to beat. I filmed weddings on the A7sII and A7iii for years with few issues and effectively no grain issues.
What would you say about the a7sii? It’s significantly cheaper, I’m recording classical concert that last for an hour and a half and looking for a good 24fps 4k option to do this, knowing there’s a low-light but not drastic as this is a long shot (therefore using the 4k) - would you say I’ll be better waiting to have the money to get the a7siii? Or the a7sii will do the trick? I’d love if you’ll have the time to share :)
@@thefilmalliance when you do your comparison review with a FX3/A74 it'll be how the lowlight is impacted - will it be a deal breaker for say a wedding videograph in real practical terms. Thanks for your content - very helpful 👍
I am mainly a filmmaker. I think I've taken 5 maybe 10 pictures with my A7iv. The FX30 is more fitting to my needs. So, I'm selling my A7iv for the FX30. A couple more reasons why are 1) the timecode output. Which is very important for filmmaking. 2) Recording externally in 16-bit RAW video. Which is good for visual effects. Having worked on over 40 feature films as a visual effects artist, I will take advantage of the 16-bit output on many occasions.
Wow that’s incredible. Do you have a lot of feature films under your belt and for you to want the FX30 that says a lot. So will you shoot and 16 bit raw for special effects?
@@thefilmalliance Oh yea, for vfx shots I would definitely take advantage of the 16-bit raw. Footage shot in 10-bit provides a color spectrum of 1.07 billion colors. Footage shot in 16-bit provides 281 trillion colors. That’s a lot of latitude in post.
I find the FX30 highly interesting. Unfortunately, it's not that easy to create nice crops with the APS-C. F2.8 is then translated to F4.2, too bad. Regards
Nice job! A7siii with 16-35 PZ for real estate/architectural videos, light setup with great low light performance. Just picked up the FX30 as a 2nd camera with the 20-70 PZ, this will be used for outdoors, details and longer views...also a 2nd camera for interviews....and for stills it's the Nikon gear...Kinda like to keep video cameras and photo cameras separate. Coming from a Z6 to the A7siii, had a chance to video the same home I shot with the Z6, which had challenging light, the difference in richness of color and lower noise is noticeable.
I wish they'd add timecode support for the A7Siii. It has the same internals as the FX3 so I'm sure it can do it, Sony is just choosing not to. I've got my FX30 on preorder as well - can't wait!!
Using full frame is like sleeping on a bed. Going apsc from full frame is like sleeping on the floor. Why would anyone want to sleep on the floor? Sensor size > any fx30 features you can throw at it
I almost ordered one because of the hype but I’ll stick with A7siii and 7IV. My plan was to sell both and use FX30 but the stills mode is a little lacking. Yes I know it’s a video camera first but hey ho! Looks great though. I would miss EVF though as I do sometimes use it for video with longer lenses.
@@thefilmalliance Just as a hobby, the other bonus is the layout on S3 and 74 is the same so you can set them up identically which is very handy. I like not worrying about crop factors in different frame rates on the S3. But the 74 is a great photography camera and apart from missing 4k120 a great video camera as well, especially if just comparing just apsc mode to the fx30.
The way I look at it, you get the FX3 with the A7S III, but the FX30 will match much better with A7 IV or A7C II, which are sharper and in APS-C mode are about 24MP. The rolling shutter will probably be fine, you will just have to use a wider lens and correct the rolling shutter in post with Catalyst Browse.
I'm currently using the a7iv as my main camera, I'm thinking of getting the fx30 as a secondary camera, and maybe it could be my main video camera when not in low light situations
Im boxing my FX30 up and sending it off for sale and purchasing a A7S3 The noise on the FX30 is horrific even in well lit situations the amount of steps that have to be checked to produce decent quality is not with the price tag I only purchased for 4k 120fps for certain shoots but its practically impossible. The time and energy and anticlimactic end footage this camera produces reminds me of 1990's home video footage AVOID AVOID AVOID!!!
i APPRECIATE THIS TIME here, never heard of the fx line, but been running two 7s iii's with no issues. always great to hear a well put together comparison my friend.
the crop at 120 and lowlight is only reason imma stick with the s3. only got annoyed when you kept saying s3 is hybrid. but in reality you are right. maybe back in the day the s line meant more cinema but that is only in relation to the other a7 group (a7_, a7s_, a7r_). and i also understand in this context the fx30 is definitely more video focused. if it wasn't for lowlight capabilities and 4k120 crop the fx30 at 1/2 cost is definitely the better buy (IMO), cause you can buy 2 of them to run whatever you want, would be perfect for podcast and streaming budgets. active cooling is major also. and being cropped you just buy a sigma lens 3 pack and you ready to go to be honest, and you have access to that creamy f1.4 goodness for the low. I think in the near future i will get it simply for the fact that 2 full frame lenses right now gonna run me basically the cost of the fx30, while i have multiple crop lenses available that arent being used currently. sigma 16, 30 and a few more. i want to see how well the pancake kti lens runs on the fx30. the 16-35 if i remember right. that would be a crazy run n gun setup. arguably fit in a pocket.
You summed it up perfectly and I can’t agree more. I know I hate that it’s a “hybrid” bc I do cinema. I don’t want a photography and video camera to do pro video work but I actually end up using the evf all the time hahaha
Yes! I'm a Filmmaker x Photographer and like to keep my gear separated. I shoot stills on the Sony A7Rii and that's been a beast for me so long as I don't shoot in dark environments. But I am pushing heavily onto the video content side of things next year and the FX30 looks to be the best bang for the buck. As you said, it's that entry level for cinema cameras and for 2K body only, I'll make a hell of an ROA from it.
Man, I've watched so many of your videos and your take on things and the work going into these videos is insane. Whenever I see you have a video on something I'm looking for I always click it. Really appreciate your perspective on things. Thanks for all your hard work!
I preordered my FX30 also. Good job covering the specs bro. I already have the A1, A7IV and A7Siii. I plan to add the FX30, and add it to my arsenal. The A7SIII is still full frame and native 3K which is why its so clean. Not downsampled. I also have not seen if the FX3 or FX30 has memory recall like the A7S3 so going from 4k24 to 4k120 at the switch of a dial is important to me also. No dials on the FX30 so how do you change settings super fast like on all the other sony cameras? Big tip for us content creators. Stop by my channel sometimes
What’s up bro, yes, I agree. We will have to find a way to toggle quickly between frame rates and resolutions. I’m going to set this thinks up as soon as I get it, with the most streamline quick toggles. I’m excited to dive in. Thanks so much for all the support.
@@thefilmalliance same here pretty interested I have my own dropping tomorrow on the fx30. I don’t know if it has memory recall. Nobody has talked about it and I can’t find it anywhere. I don’t even know if it’s on the fx3
NZD $6100 + cost of lenses for A7Siii vs NZD $3500 and I can use my existing APS-C lenses, and my ZV-1/ZV-10 can be used for what little photography (mostly close up stuff) I do. The saving alone allows me to buy two Sirui Anamorphic lenses - that and the form factor of APS-C in general makes it a much more viable option for me. I never really considered the A7Siii a realistic goal for me, whereas the FX30 is very aspirational. It would be my top end camera and my end point at my stage of life.
Well I have an A7s iii and I ordered FX30 as my main camera. I am thinking to sell the A7s iii. The reason is lens's. I only have two full frame lenses Sony 24mm 1.4 and themton 28-70mm 2.8. I love my a7siii but I don't use it enough to keep it. Used only couple times. Also the full frame lens's are too expensive and I want to try anamorphic lens.
Good Video, However Netflix Approved doesn't mean that they will accept your film just because you shot on a Netflix approved camera, you can shoot it with a GoPro if they really want it. Netflix Approved means that if NETFLIX hires you to shoot a show or a film, they have a set list of approved cameras that you can use. That is what that list if for, again great video!
Thanks so much for bringing that to light. That makes alot more sense. I really appreciate that insight. Thank you for taking the time to explain that.
price differences in europe are huge :( A7SIII in 3 different shops - 3900€, 4100€, 4470€ FX30 in 2 different shops - 2260€, 2390€ This is in Croatia...while our average salaries being around 1000€
It would be comical if the $1800 fx30 gets nextflix approved. It does have all-i and time code so theoretically is might just qualify. ConeEI"s point is not ISO but it always gives you the maximum dynamic range possible out of the camera no matter what.
I know but it may just happen. It also may not happen strictly due to the price and Netflix not being cool with such a cheap camera being approved haha
I hope they approve because cinema cameras before are mostly super 35 and also it's a good way to help and motivate small time content creator to be more creative and publish their own indie film. And not all great and creative minds can buy expensive things to start and create their masterpiece.
If I could afford an A7Siii I could pretty much afford an FX3, thus making FX30 obsolete until I could afford a good B Cam. So FX30 is definitely right for my broke a$$
I am gonna wait for firmware on my a7siii, I m sure they gonna add some of the new features on it, soon or later ( I hope so). I think it is a good thing to try to control our shopping addiction. "The netflix approved" is just a marketing thing to sell more (is netflix giving us quality ? not sure of that).
What a great point. I wonder if Sony and Netflix partnered up to have the FX3 be "Netflix approved" because its great marketing for both. I do hope the A7siii has some better firmware updates as well. So your not picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance No because, when I bought the a7siii, it was for having something that I will use for 5 years at least, I don't want to be trapped in a "fomo" with buying new gear every 6months because they add a new "magical new feature", I know all these things are great new things but really, I am still doing good things and I try much as I can to do the best with option that I already have in the a7siii. Focus breathing compensation, great!!! But I am gonna learn to be better in manual focusing, Cine EI etc... OK great too! I m gonna learn how to be better in colorgrading, Animal focusing Awesome! I am not shooting a lot of animal :-). I think it is a little bit our fault too because SONY and other brand understand that we will buy anything with new options everytime they make something new. AND about all the 6K 8K 1000K , who really has a TV at home that can handle that for the moment.
@@Intuifilm You are wise, Once someone told me, when I want to purchase something over $1,000 to wait 30 days and see if I still want it. Most of the time I ended up not purchasing it. In this case, I will make an exception being that I am a camera channel and a lot of people rely on what I find to make a decision. Thanks so much for being such a great example to all of us!
@@thefilmalliance thank you very much to do that and to help us to make decisions we need that kind of content and thank you for that! I took more than 6months to choose to buy the a7siii and that kind of reviews helps a lot. I wish you a great day 😁
🙏 so usefull. I have order one, will change my zve10 and match it with the 7IV. And yes it is expensive in Europe 😔 This camara was the one I hoped to come out last year, but it was the A7IV, If at the moment of having it, perform better or equal to my 7IV I will sell it, because I never take picture only videos.
I had been waiting for an fx6 and they have been outta stock since the pandemic began. We shoot mostly Blackmagic, but I own a A7IV, A9, and a A7RIII. I happen to be looking around at the Fx3 and the Fx30 for a few weeks and I happen to look at the A7siii and saw one in the next nearby state at a Bestbuy. We took the hour trip. I saw one that was an open box along with a new one in store and I wanted to know what was wrong with the open box. Well the actual box said residue along with the listing on the website. I had them open up the box and everything was there and the body looked brand new, but it was missing the body cap. The price was 2729.99. I was expecting a torn up box with no manuals or anything and scratches or stickers on the body from maybe being a demo model, but no the box looked brand new and all of the other accessories were included. I have the total tech plan, which isca 60vday warranty and I can return it up to 60 days. I bought a body cap at 8.39 and the camera was 2978.00 with tax included. I decided to buy the camera after testing it in store. My decision was made for me at 778.00 off. I will use it until my fx6 gets in stock and I will then use it as a B cam. The deal was too good to pass up even for an Fx3. I'm taking it home now as my wife drives and I set up the menus.
I am coming from a Canon 90d. I am 90% sold on the idea of moving to full frame. I have always felt that apsc has been a little bit of a compromise in terms of sharpness and DR, but with the arrival of the Canon R7 and the FX30 the differences have become so much smaller. I am inches away from purchasing a used A7SIII, but the FX30 is very tempting as will have some much choice in terms of lenses. I don't know. Either way they are both outstanding camera's so thinking how wrong can I go?
@@mirrorlessnyI actually went for the A7IV in the end, which I got for a great price. For me, it was the ideal stepping stone into Sony's full-frame mirrorless system, both in terms of budget and features. It has proven to be an outstanding camera and looks like it will more than suffice for a little while. Who knows, when I am ready to upgrade again, Sony may have released a A7S IV:-) In the meantime, I think investing in the best glass for my new camera is top of my priorities.
@@arhon888 a7iv is a great hybrid, has so much useful tech, I still have a7iii for photography, what lenses you have now & what kind of things do you use the camera for?
@@mirrorlessny I plan to use A7IV for video mainly. Professionally, I mainly use for company testimonials. Planning on doing more service videos also. I am actually a web designer, so use video to compliment that. Outside of that, I love filming generally. ie. family, events etc. How about you?
@@arhon888 Hybrid use at work, hobby is mostly video,. That's why I didn't get fx30 or fx3 because they are too video focused, btw the new Samyang/Rokinon Cine primes have rec light :)
I am more of beginner still maybe a little above lol. I have the A6400 and the A6600. For my podcast I use 2 A6000’s with the sigma 30 & 16. Those never have to leave just there when I need them. Look really good no one would know lol. I’m gonna use the 6600 for any photo stuff I wanna do. Gonna trade in my 6400 towards the FX30 and use that for all my video needs. Same battery’s all my lenses will be compatible. I’m pumped can’t for the FX30 to get there. Also ordered the grip mic thing. Wanna try that too. Anyway sorry so long love the channel bud.
I have the fx30 it's brand new, yesterday I saw an a7siii for 2,100 and ordered because I know someone would've gotten it and it's a unbelievable deal. If the a7siii beats it the fx30 is going back.
Still makes it hard to pick one.. I have full frame lenses so makes sense to get fx3 but it’s expensive I feel like if I go with fx30 I would eventually want to upgrade to fx3. 😅 thanks for the info tho.
Well, to be absolutely honest, I'm really wanting one of the cinema line cameras, but I need, like TRULY, the low light capabilities of the a7sIII. I think the FX3 uses the same sensor, right? We do a lot of astrophotography vlogs and we barely use any lighting, we shot it as it is.
Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
@@thefilmalliance Nope, I did not take it. If you have the link, let me know. As for the usage of the camera, well, in this case, it will be a dedicated camera JUST for filming. During the day, I have no issues, but at night, and with practically no lighting, it gets tricky, and that's where the a7sIII is so important.
For the birdwatcher this would seem to be a good video camera for making videos of bird behaviour especially with its 1.62 crop on 1.5x sensor. However I cannot find one reviewer that has looked at this aspect. Perhaps Sony thinks its not optimal for that either as they don't seem to have commissioned any review from an actual wildlife video maker
@@thefilmalliance I already have a 200-600mm to go with my A9, but if I got the FX30 I would consider getting the 135mm F1.8 to give me a low light option in the dim light of the SE Asian rainforests I frequent.
@@markwalker8374 Dang what a nice setup. Are you only doing photography or making videos with those setups? I would love to watch that and see your workflow
I was looking for a B camera to pair with my A7SIII. I am a content creator and I use a f 1.8 wide angle lens. Obviously the A7SIII does super in low light. If I purchase the FX30 for a B camera what do you thing about lens that will compliment what I have?
Hey Joe, I'm currently debating on the a74 vs the FX30. I'm upgrading from the ZV-1. I plan to primarily use video, but will I miss out from not going full frame if I go with the FX30? Thanks!
I would like to know too. I don't know which one to get. I feel like the A7IV is the better value and more available in the used market. It will be cheaper soon due to the A75 coming out soon.
I know this comment is 8 months late, but as someone who came from a sony a6300/6500, the fX30 was the smartest/budget friendly way to go. Ordered one last month and i'm very content. If you're already invested in the APSC/emount lens lineup, then FX30 is the clear decision maker. I think the fact alone that a crop sensor contends with a full frame speaks volumes alone. Can't go wrong either way
Nice one coach! The FX 30 seems very tempting and as you said the lens for that camera are cheaper than full frame lenses. Definitely something to think about!
Hi I'm considering fx30 or a Sony xdcam for my videography (weddings, christenings etc where long battery life is a must as we shoot for hours and hours) . Any advice? Have you used xdcam for video?
Hey there, no I haven’t. You have definitely sparked interest. I think you’d be better with a FX30 and fast aperture lenses for lowlight weddings. What are your thoughts on that?
@@thefilmalliance I'm very tempted to make the switch (currently I use Sony nx30 cam as my main and Sony a6000) to dslr and the fx30 looks great and I like how it has a fan to avoid overheating. The weddings I shoot that are European require hours and hours continous shooting and battery life is veyy important. What would the add ons be for the fx30 to be able to make battery last over 5 hours atleast and any recommended lense? Thanks again for responding 😀👍..
Ill be getting my fx30. I wanted the fx3 and by the time it was on pre order i can actually get it but i choose not to because i used the money for something more important hence i just bought the a6600. Hoping sony would give a firmware update to enable gyro and have it compatible with catalyst browse since the rx0 ii has it and a6600 was their flagship apsc at that time and even when the zv-e10 was released. So please SONY if you are reading the comments section. So back to fx30. Now i think it is more justifiable to get the fx30 that i think i can still use if my channel get more subs or grow. Than just having a6600 that has horrendous rolling shutter (firmware update can change this by enable to choose a down sample 6k or a true 4k might help) and without proper stabilization like active steady shot and catalyst browse. But im still hoping that SONY will give a6600 owners the update I mentioned. I will still buy the FX30 even if they give the mentioned update to a6600 and will use the a6600 as b cam and thumbnail shooter.
You nailed it, thanks so much for the explanation and detail. I agree with you and am very happy for you that you are picking up the FX30. DO you have any idea when they will start shipping? You seem like the knowledgeable person who knows inside info haha
@@thefilmalliance thank you very much for a nice compliment but im not knowledgeable than you since im just starting up and just doing some research. But hopefully someday I become like you guys who know a lot more so i can also share them to others. I just saw in bhphoto the date for the US but from where i am at, until now im communicating with sony authorized dealer here. And even they don't know when pre-order will start here. So i just call them everyday. 😁
Picking up the FFX30 in spite of the much better shooting modes of the A7s3, because its cheaper and the lenses are cheaper too. Also, because Sony has cut off the A7s3 from important firmware updates... And its not like people could use that as a photo camera... I'd switch to another brand if it wasn't for my collection of lenses and the poor selection for Canon's RF glass and the stink of their preventing the use of 3rd party glass...
@@thefilmalliance none at the moment 😅 sold all my gear and I am free to decide what I want to invest in. I think the fx30 could make much more sense for me. But honestly there is no good zoom lense with 2.8 (and oss) out there
Do they actually record video simultaneously on both cards? For example, Fuji XT-3 has two cards but only photos are recorded on both, video is only recorded on one card, no backup :(
Hii.. Im a siii user but i do like to buy fx30 cuz of the 1.6 crop in 4k 120 to get extra zoom for my wildlife videos..but my only concern is about the dual base iso 2500...all of the scenes are filming in the forest... Gonna need higher iso there.. So im confused.. Should i buy fx30 for the zoom or stick with siii with 12800 clean dual base iso😐🤔
Not canon, for an alternative "cinema" camera, it's the panasonic s5. Otherwise, fuji x-h2 or x-h2s. Canon r7 is a a better stills camera but not suitable comparison as a video camera.
@@CC.cinematics AF is Sony/Canon then Fuji. Panasonic not so good. But it seems to me, FX30 is mostly replacing people's purchases of FX3, A7siii, Canon c70, Blackmagic 6k, 6kpro, 4k, etc.
Yes, I absolutely agree with that. But the Fx30 is backordered for so long. Everyone is complaining about that. So at least you have a camera that you can use right now.
Hey there, I have had a lot of questions about filming cooking. Unfortunately, I have never had any experience with that. But, if you find out, I would really appreciate it, if you let me know so that I can tell others. Thanks.
@@thefilmalliance hopefully and if it is pegged to the USD Retail, then yes. Especially if there is a shortage on the initial release and the dollar falls. This is more or less speculation on my part but is the only reason I can for the international market exclaiming it as more expensive.
@@thefilmalliance it’s my pleasure, thanks for the insight videos. It makes it make a lot more sense for a person like myself justifying the upgrade from the ZV-E10… all of these videos are extremely helpful.
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FX30 seems like a great camera for filmmakers who are going to set up shots and do their own lighting. For run and gun weddings, I agree that the 12 MP Full Frame is going to be tough to beat. I filmed weddings on the A7sII and A7iii for years with few issues and effectively no grain issues.
It’s the a7siii that’s the one
What would you say about the a7sii? It’s significantly cheaper, I’m recording classical concert that last for an hour and a half and looking for a good 24fps 4k option to do this, knowing there’s a low-light but not drastic as this is a long shot (therefore using the 4k) - would you say I’ll be better waiting to have the money to get the a7siii? Or the a7sii will do the trick? I’d love if you’ll have the time to share :)
Remember when you calculate AF points the FX30 are spread across a smaller area, so its not necessarily going to worse the A7S3
Dang that’s a mind twisting thought. Thanks for looking out. I didn’t even think of that.
@@thefilmalliance when you do your comparison review with a FX3/A74 it'll be how the lowlight is impacted - will it be a deal breaker for say a wedding videograph in real practical terms.
Thanks for your content - very helpful 👍
I am mainly a filmmaker. I think I've taken 5 maybe 10 pictures with my A7iv. The FX30 is more fitting to my needs. So, I'm selling my A7iv for the FX30. A couple more reasons why are 1) the timecode output. Which is very important for filmmaking. 2) Recording externally in 16-bit RAW video. Which is good for visual effects. Having worked on over 40 feature films as a visual effects artist, I will take advantage of the 16-bit output on many occasions.
Wow that’s incredible. Do you have a lot of feature films under your belt and for you to want the FX30 that says a lot. So will you shoot and 16 bit raw for special effects?
@@thefilmalliance Oh yea, for vfx shots I would definitely take advantage of the 16-bit raw. Footage shot in 10-bit provides a color spectrum of 1.07 billion colors. Footage shot in 16-bit provides 281 trillion colors. That’s a lot of latitude in post.
@@AllThingsFilm1 it may output 16bit, BUT will get only 12bit with ninjav
@@petrub27 I didn't realize the Ninja V was limited to 12-bit. How do you capture 16-bit, then?
Wait am I missing something? Don't they both only shoot 10bit?? How do you record 16 bit externally? 🤔
I find the FX30 highly interesting. Unfortunately, it's not that easy to create nice crops with the APS-C. F2.8 is then translated to F4.2, too bad. Regards
Nice job! A7siii with 16-35 PZ for real estate/architectural videos, light setup with great low light performance. Just picked up the FX30 as a 2nd camera with the 20-70 PZ, this will be used for outdoors, details and longer views...also a 2nd camera for interviews....and for stills it's the Nikon gear...Kinda like to keep video cameras and photo cameras separate. Coming from a Z6 to the A7siii, had a chance to video the same home I shot with the Z6, which had challenging light, the difference in richness of color and lower noise is noticeable.
I wish they'd add timecode support for the A7Siii. It has the same internals as the FX3 so I'm sure it can do it, Sony is just choosing not to. I've got my FX30 on preorder as well - can't wait!!
Hey Randumb, yes exactly. That is how I think of it. So happy for you to also preorder the Fx30. It will be a hit for sure
Yes it's the same but if they will include everything fx3 has then they cannot draw a line between the fx3 and a7siii anymore.
Using full frame is like sleeping on a bed.
Going apsc from full frame is like sleeping on the floor.
Why would anyone want to sleep on the floor?
Sensor size > any fx30 features you can throw at it
I almost ordered one because of the hype but I’ll stick with A7siii and 7IV. My plan was to sell both and use FX30 but the stills mode is a little lacking. Yes I know it’s a video camera first but hey ho! Looks great though. I would miss EVF though as I do sometimes use it for video with longer lenses.
Hey James, it seems like you’ve got it figured out. Are you using them professionally or as a hobby?
@@thefilmalliance Just as a hobby, the other bonus is the layout on S3 and 74 is the same so you can set them up identically which is very handy. I like not worrying about crop factors in different frame rates on the S3. But the 74 is a great photography camera and apart from missing 4k120 a great video camera as well, especially if just comparing just apsc mode to the fx30.
That is why FX30 doesnt have EVF because of the high reso LCD screen
The way I look at it, you get the FX3 with the A7S III, but the FX30 will match much better with A7 IV or A7C II, which are sharper and in APS-C mode are about 24MP. The rolling shutter will probably be fine, you will just have to use a wider lens and correct the rolling shutter in post with Catalyst Browse.
I'm currently using the a7iv as my main camera, I'm thinking of getting the fx30 as a secondary camera, and maybe it could be my main video camera when not in low light situations
Im boxing my FX30 up and sending it off for sale and purchasing a A7S3 The noise on the FX30 is horrific even in well lit situations the amount of steps that have to be checked to produce decent quality is not with the price tag I only purchased for 4k 120fps for certain shoots but its practically impossible. The time and energy and anticlimactic end footage this camera produces reminds me of 1990's home video footage AVOID AVOID AVOID!!!
r u serious
i APPRECIATE THIS TIME here, never heard of the fx line, but been running two 7s iii's with no issues. always great to hear a well put together comparison my friend.
you are right about the slow motion . I would also use the FX30 as a B camera for this purpose
Dors that 2000$ gap justify the low light performance of the a7siii ? Il really curious if there is really that much of a difference
the crop at 120 and lowlight is only reason imma stick with the s3. only got annoyed when you kept saying s3 is hybrid. but in reality you are right. maybe back in the day the s line meant more cinema but that is only in relation to the other a7 group (a7_, a7s_, a7r_). and i also understand in this context the fx30 is definitely more video focused. if it wasn't for lowlight capabilities and 4k120 crop the fx30 at 1/2 cost is definitely the better buy (IMO), cause you can buy 2 of them to run whatever you want, would be perfect for podcast and streaming budgets. active cooling is major also. and being cropped you just buy a sigma lens 3 pack and you ready to go to be honest, and you have access to that creamy f1.4 goodness for the low. I think in the near future i will get it simply for the fact that 2 full frame lenses right now gonna run me basically the cost of the fx30, while i have multiple crop lenses available that arent being used currently. sigma 16, 30 and a few more. i want to see how well the pancake kti lens runs on the fx30. the 16-35 if i remember right. that would be a crazy run n gun setup. arguably fit in a pocket.
You summed it up perfectly and I can’t agree more. I know I hate that it’s a “hybrid” bc I do cinema. I don’t want a photography and video camera to do pro video work but I actually end up using the evf all the time hahaha
Yes! I'm a Filmmaker x Photographer and like to keep my gear separated. I shoot stills on the Sony A7Rii and that's been a beast for me so long as I don't shoot in dark environments. But I am pushing heavily onto the video content side of things next year and the FX30 looks to be the best bang for the buck. As you said, it's that entry level for cinema cameras and for 2K body only, I'll make a hell of an ROA from it.
Thanks Phil for this comment. You have some great insight.
@@thefilmalliance thanks man 🙏
Man, I've watched so many of your videos and your take on things and the work going into these videos is insane. Whenever I see you have a video on something I'm looking for I always click it. Really appreciate your perspective on things. Thanks for all your hard work!
Wow seriously thanks man. This kind of encouragement and support means a lot. Really glad that you find value in the things I share.
fantastic!! I will use all of this for my video!!!!!!!!
Edit your comment mark!
@@xvimatthiasivx41 I stand by my mistakes!!!!!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis brother XD
I am deleting this comment because you didn’t stand behind your unedited comment
@@thefilmalliance yes I believe that's the correct action to take haha (still xvimatthiasivx)
I preordered my FX30 also. Good job covering the specs bro. I already have the A1, A7IV and A7Siii. I plan to add the FX30, and add it to my arsenal. The A7SIII is still full frame and native 3K which is why its so clean. Not downsampled. I also have not seen if the FX3 or FX30 has memory recall like the A7S3 so going from 4k24 to 4k120 at the switch of a dial is important to me also. No dials on the FX30 so how do you change settings super fast like on all the other sony cameras? Big tip for us content creators. Stop by my channel sometimes
What’s up bro, yes, I agree. We will have to find a way to toggle quickly between frame rates and resolutions. I’m going to set this thinks up as soon as I get it, with the most streamline quick toggles. I’m excited to dive in. Thanks so much for all the support.
@@thefilmalliance same here pretty interested I have my own dropping tomorrow on the fx30. I don’t know if it has memory recall. Nobody has talked about it and I can’t find it anywhere. I don’t even know if it’s on the fx3
NZD $6100 + cost of lenses for A7Siii vs NZD $3500 and I can use my existing APS-C lenses, and my ZV-1/ZV-10 can be used for what little photography (mostly close up stuff) I do. The saving alone allows me to buy two Sirui Anamorphic lenses - that and the form factor of APS-C in general makes it a much more viable option for me. I never really considered the A7Siii a realistic goal for me, whereas the FX30 is very aspirational. It would be my top end camera and my end point at my stage of life.
Sounds like you’ve got it figured out. I love the cheaper APSC glass idea in the FX30 while you can still use full frame
Many cinema cameras use super35 sensors why do people feel they need a full frame sensor? Makes no sense
Well I have an A7s iii and I ordered FX30 as my main camera. I am thinking to sell the A7s iii. The reason is lens's. I only have two full frame lenses Sony 24mm 1.4 and themton 28-70mm 2.8. I love my a7siii but I don't use it enough to keep it. Used only couple times. Also the full frame lens's are too expensive and I want to try anamorphic lens.
I’m still with full frame no matter what!
Wow ok yes, please tell us why. For low light?
@@thefilmalliance Absolutely yes because currently im using A7siii & A7iv and I love the low light result for both 😍
Good Video, However Netflix Approved doesn't mean that they will accept your film just because you shot on a Netflix approved camera, you can shoot it with a GoPro if they really want it. Netflix Approved means that if NETFLIX hires you to shoot a show or a film, they have a set list of approved cameras that you can use. That is what that list if for, again great video!
Thanks so much for bringing that to light. That makes alot more sense. I really appreciate that insight. Thank you for taking the time to explain that.
@@thefilmalliance sure thing! Great reviews!
this is an excellent and depth review i was looking for. thanks!
Thank you so much for saying that. I am glad that it helped.Do you have one of these cameras?
price differences in europe are huge :(
A7SIII in 3 different shops - 3900€, 4100€, 4470€
FX30 in 2 different shops - 2260€, 2390€
This is in Croatia...while our average salaries being around 1000€
Wow, that is crazy.
I'll be getting the A7siii
Nice!
It would be comical if the $1800 fx30 gets nextflix approved. It does have all-i and time code so theoretically is might just qualify. ConeEI"s point is not ISO but it always gives you the maximum dynamic range possible out of the camera no matter what.
I know but it may just happen. It also may not happen strictly due to the price and Netflix not being cool with such a cheap camera being approved haha
I hope they approve because cinema cameras before are mostly super 35 and also it's a good way to help and motivate small time content creator to be more creative and publish their own indie film. And not all great and creative minds can buy expensive things to start and create their masterpiece.
Fast forward to now.....and it's approved lol
I am searcher a b-cam for my FX6 🎥 I think the fx30 would be a good option 👍🏻😀 best cinematic greetings from germany
Yes I think that would work well
If I could afford an A7Siii I could pretty much afford an FX3, thus making FX30 obsolete until I could afford a good B Cam. So FX30 is definitely right for my broke a$$
@2:10 has a small crop ? 1.6 crop is big .
Misspoke, but I recover that later in the video. Thanks for catching that
I am gonna wait for firmware on my a7siii, I m sure they gonna add some of the new features on it, soon or later ( I hope so). I think it is a good thing to try to control our shopping addiction. "The netflix approved" is just a marketing thing to sell more (is netflix giving us quality ? not sure of that).
What a great point. I wonder if Sony and Netflix partnered up to have the FX3 be "Netflix approved" because its great marketing for both. I do hope the A7siii has some better firmware updates as well. So your not picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance No because, when I bought the a7siii, it was for having something that I will use for 5 years at least, I don't want to be trapped in a "fomo" with buying new gear every 6months because they add a new "magical new feature", I know all these things are great new things but really, I am still doing good things and I try much as I can to do the best with option that I already have in the a7siii.
Focus breathing compensation, great!!! But I am gonna learn to be better in manual focusing, Cine EI etc... OK great too! I m gonna learn how to be better in colorgrading, Animal focusing Awesome! I am not shooting a lot of animal :-). I think it is a little bit our fault too because SONY and other brand understand that we will buy anything with new options everytime they make something new.
AND about all the 6K 8K 1000K , who really has a TV at home that can handle that for the moment.
@@Intuifilm You are wise, Once someone told me, when I want to purchase something over $1,000 to wait 30 days and see if I still want it. Most of the time I ended up not purchasing it. In this case, I will make an exception being that I am a camera channel and a lot of people rely on what I find to make a decision. Thanks so much for being such a great example to all of us!
@@thefilmalliance thank you very much to do that and to help us to make decisions we need that kind of content and thank you for that!
I took more than 6months to choose to buy the a7siii and that kind of reviews helps a lot.
I wish you a great day 😁
@@thefilmalliance I love this philosophy
Hi Brother I'm nani From India Thanks for video..Wich One camera is best for video plz say One word
FX30
I ordered my FX30 couple days ago. How long did you guys wait till you got this camera?
🙏 so usefull. I have order one, will change my zve10 and match it with the 7IV. And yes it is expensive in Europe 😔 This camara was the one I hoped to come out last year, but it was the A7IV, If at the moment of having it, perform better or equal to my 7IV I will sell it, because I never take picture only videos.
Hi Christian, wow thanks for the heads up. Yes I agree. I believe prices should come down eventually though
I had been waiting for an fx6 and they have been outta stock since the pandemic began. We shoot mostly Blackmagic, but I own a A7IV, A9, and a A7RIII.
I happen to be looking around at the Fx3 and the Fx30 for a few weeks and I happen to look at the A7siii and saw one in the next nearby state at a Bestbuy. We took the hour trip.
I saw one that was an open box along with a new one in store and I wanted to know what was wrong with the open box. Well the actual box said residue along with the listing on the website.
I had them open up the box and everything was there and the body looked brand new, but it was missing the body cap. The price was 2729.99.
I was expecting a torn up box with no manuals or anything and scratches or stickers on the body from maybe being a demo model, but no the box looked brand new and all of the other accessories were included.
I have the total tech plan, which isca 60vday warranty and I can return it up to 60 days. I bought a body cap at 8.39 and the camera was 2978.00 with tax included. I decided to buy the camera after testing it in store.
My decision was made for me at 778.00 off. I will use it until my fx6 gets in stock and I will then use it as a B cam.
The deal was too good to pass up even for an Fx3. I'm taking it home now as my wife drives and I set up the menus.
I am coming from a Canon 90d. I am 90% sold on the idea of moving to full frame. I have always felt that apsc has been a little bit of a compromise in terms of sharpness and DR, but with the arrival of the Canon R7 and the FX30 the differences have become so much smaller. I am inches away from purchasing a used A7SIII, but the FX30 is very tempting as will have some much choice in terms of lenses. I don't know. Either way they are both outstanding camera's so thinking how wrong can I go?
which did you get? a7Siii is the better hybrid, but fx30 has same design as FX3 which is awesome for videography
@@mirrorlessnyI actually went for the A7IV in the end, which I got for a great price. For me, it was the ideal stepping stone into Sony's full-frame mirrorless system, both in terms of budget and features. It has proven to be an outstanding camera and looks like it will more than suffice for a little while. Who knows, when I am ready to upgrade again, Sony may have released a A7S IV:-) In the meantime, I think investing in the best glass for my new camera is top of my priorities.
@@arhon888 a7iv is a great hybrid, has so much useful tech, I still have a7iii for photography, what lenses you have now & what kind of things do you use the camera for?
@@mirrorlessny I plan to use A7IV for video mainly. Professionally, I mainly use for company testimonials. Planning on doing more service videos also. I am actually a web designer, so use video to compliment that. Outside of that, I love filming generally. ie. family, events etc. How about you?
@@arhon888 Hybrid use at work, hobby is mostly video,. That's why I didn't get fx30 or fx3 because they are too video focused, btw the new Samyang/Rokinon Cine primes have rec light :)
I am more of beginner still maybe a little above lol. I have the A6400 and the A6600. For my podcast I use 2 A6000’s with the sigma 30 & 16. Those never have to leave just there when I need them. Look really good no one would know lol. I’m gonna use the 6600 for any photo stuff I wanna do. Gonna trade in my 6400 towards the FX30 and use that for all my video needs. Same battery’s all my lenses will be compatible. I’m pumped can’t for the FX30 to get there. Also ordered the grip mic thing. Wanna try that too. Anyway sorry so long love the channel bud.
Nice analysis ..thank you..Yes..I am going for fx 30...For my music videos.
I have the fx30 it's brand new, yesterday I saw an a7siii for 2,100 and ordered because I know someone would've gotten it and it's a unbelievable deal. If the a7siii beats it the fx30 is going back.
So, did the fx30 beat the A7siii?
@@elmerc2079 no , the a7siii out preformed it. I was going to send it back but my brother gave me 1,500 and a Sony FE 20 mm 1.8 G lens
Well I was thinking to sell my A7siii and BMPCC 6k for Fx30. So you think it is not worth it?
@@stevengergi6781 no because the a7siii does everything the fx30 does and more .
@@boomboombaby9140 well yes but what about lens's?
i am wondering what are you thoughts about sigma fp vs sony fx30. bitrate, color, full frame vs super 35, auto focus.
Great question. I’d like to see the side by side comparison footage. I may have to ask for the Sigma back haha
For movie shooting, which one is better?
FX30 due to the internal fan
What to chose between sony a7c and fx30?
FX30, 2 card slots! How about you?
@@thefilmalliance i don't know yet i am wondering to see the low light tests between this 2 cameras to decide
Still makes it hard to pick one.. I have full frame lenses so makes sense to get fx3 but it’s expensive I feel like if I go with fx30 I would eventually want to upgrade to fx3. 😅 thanks for the info tho.
Well, to be absolutely honest, I'm really wanting one of the cinema line cameras, but I need, like TRULY, the low light capabilities of the a7sIII. I think the FX3 uses the same sensor, right?
We do a lot of astrophotography vlogs and we barely use any lighting, we shot it as it is.
Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
@@thefilmalliance Nope, I did not take it. If you have the link, let me know.
As for the usage of the camera, well, in this case, it will be a dedicated camera JUST for filming. During the day, I have no issues, but at night, and with practically no lighting, it gets tricky, and that's where the a7sIII is so important.
Wait a minute! "Small" crop at 1.6 ?
What is big crop to you then? 8.6?
For the birdwatcher this would seem to be a good video camera for making videos of bird behaviour especially with its 1.62 crop on 1.5x sensor. However I cannot find one reviewer that has looked at this aspect. Perhaps Sony thinks its not optimal for that either as they don't seem to have commissioned any review from an actual wildlife video maker
Yes, I think this would be an excellent wildlife camera. As long as you can afford the long lenses! will you be picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance I already have a 200-600mm to go with my A9, but if I got the FX30 I would consider getting the 135mm F1.8 to give me a low light option in the dim light of the SE Asian rainforests I frequent.
@@markwalker8374 Dang what a nice setup. Are you only doing photography or making videos with those setups? I would love to watch that and see your workflow
I was looking for a B camera to pair with my A7SIII. I am a content creator and I use a f 1.8 wide angle lens. Obviously the A7SIII does super in low light. If I purchase the FX30 for a B camera what do you thing about lens that will compliment what I have?
Sigma f1.4 apsc prime lenses are popular, but there are multiple other brands available now
Hey Joe, I'm currently debating on the a74 vs the FX30. I'm upgrading from the ZV-1. I plan to primarily use video, but will I miss out from not going full frame if I go with the FX30? Thanks!
I would like to know too. I don't know which one to get. I feel like the A7IV is the better value and more available in the used market. It will be cheaper soon due to the A75 coming out soon.
I know this comment is 8 months late, but as someone who came from a sony a6300/6500, the fX30 was the smartest/budget friendly way to go. Ordered one last month and i'm very content. If you're already invested in the APSC/emount lens lineup, then FX30 is the clear decision maker. I think the fact alone that a crop sensor contends with a full frame speaks volumes alone. Can't go wrong either way
Still don't understand what Cine EI brings that S-log doesn't...
Its just a different workflow
Yes, its a way to expose the display correctly without changing the settings inside the camera
great job on the video my friend!
Thank you so much, do you have either one of these cameras?
Nice one coach! The FX 30 seems very tempting and as you said the lens for that camera are cheaper than full frame lenses. Definitely something to think about!
Thanks Tone, great observation. The ZV-1s fixed lens is probably perfect for you though
Hi I'm considering fx30 or a Sony xdcam for my videography (weddings, christenings etc where long battery life is a must as we shoot for hours and hours) . Any advice? Have you used xdcam for video?
Hey there, no I haven’t. You have definitely sparked interest. I think you’d be better with a FX30 and fast aperture lenses for lowlight weddings. What are your thoughts on that?
@@thefilmalliance I'm very tempted to make the switch (currently I use Sony nx30 cam as my main and Sony a6000) to dslr and the fx30 looks great and I like how it has a fan to avoid overheating. The weddings I shoot that are European require hours and hours continous shooting and battery life is veyy important. What would the add ons be for the fx30 to be able to make battery last over 5 hours atleast and any recommended lense? Thanks again for responding 😀👍..
Good video brother , thanks .
Thank you Juan
@@thefilmalliance 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Ill be getting my fx30. I wanted the fx3 and by the time it was on pre order i can actually get it but i choose not to because i used the money for something more important hence i just bought the a6600. Hoping sony would give a firmware update to enable gyro and have it compatible with catalyst browse since the rx0 ii has it and a6600 was their flagship apsc at that time and even when the zv-e10 was released. So please SONY if you are reading the comments section. So back to fx30. Now i think it is more justifiable to get the fx30 that i think i can still use if my channel get more subs or grow. Than just having a6600 that has horrendous rolling shutter (firmware update can change this by enable to choose a down sample 6k or a true 4k might help) and without proper stabilization like active steady shot and catalyst browse. But im still hoping that SONY will give a6600 owners the update I mentioned. I will still buy the FX30 even if they give the mentioned update to a6600 and will use the a6600 as b cam and thumbnail shooter.
You nailed it, thanks so much for the explanation and detail. I agree with you and am very happy for you that you are picking up the FX30. DO you have any idea when they will start shipping? You seem like the knowledgeable person who knows inside info haha
@@thefilmalliance thank you very much for a nice compliment but im not knowledgeable than you since im just starting up and just doing some research. But hopefully someday I become like you guys who know a lot more so i can also share them to others. I just saw in bhphoto the date for the US but from where i am at, until now im communicating with sony authorized dealer here. And even they don't know when pre-order will start here. So i just call them everyday. 😁
Hey ! Do you think the fx30 can be usable in sport photography ?
Picking up the FFX30 in spite of the much better shooting modes of the A7s3, because its cheaper and the lenses are cheaper too. Also, because Sony has cut off the A7s3 from important firmware updates... And its not like people could use that as a photo camera...
I'd switch to another brand if it wasn't for my collection of lenses and the poor selection for Canon's RF glass and the stink of their preventing the use of 3rd party glass...
Hey, yes I get that. So have you bought the FX30 yet? If so, what do you think of it?
I'm pretty slow on pulling the trigger, after buying an A7C, selling it, buying an A74, selling it, I want to get it right this time...
Hi ,,how about that famous rolling shutter with that camera? i am chossing if that or A6600 thanks
Thank you very much brother, quick question what would you recommend for youtube podcast fx30 or a7 s3? Thank you again
What will the conditions be like? Thank you for asking:)
I can’t decide between the fx3 and fx30 😮
What lenses do you have/will buy?
@@thefilmalliance none at the moment 😅 sold all my gear and I am free to decide what I want to invest in. I think the fx30 could make much more sense for me. But honestly there is no good zoom lense with 2.8 (and oss) out there
Do they actually record video simultaneously on both cards? For example, Fuji XT-3 has two cards but only photos are recorded on both, video is only recorded on one card, no backup :(
Hii.. Im a siii user but i do like to buy fx30 cuz of the 1.6 crop in 4k 120 to get extra zoom for my wildlife videos..but my only concern is about the dual base iso 2500...all of the scenes are filming in the forest... Gonna need higher iso there.. So im confused.. Should i buy fx30 for the zoom or stick with siii with 12800 clean dual base iso😐🤔
excellent review thanks
Thanks, Do you do filmmaking as a hobby or professional?
What camera are you talking to at the beginning of this video?
A7siii. My go to. will you be picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance my choice between sony a7m4 and fx30?
having sony zv e10 and plan to get fx30. Do you think the image quality is way better ?
Yes the image quality of the Fx30 is way better than the Zve10. Thanks for asking.
I got the FX30 but I’m tempted to swap it out for the FX3.
Did you swap it? Why?
Yes, I did swap it. I definitely noticed the difference between the cropped sensor and full frame when the lighting wasn't optimal.
Thanks for those infos, subscribed to the channel! :)
I have a FX 30 and I’m trading it for the a 7Siii
That’s a great move but how are you trading with such a big price difference?
@@thefilmalliance fx30 and 15 mm lens for a7siii
Can it be vlogging camera on Sony FX30?
I don’t think so you would be better off with the ZV-e10. Which cameras do you have?
where is video comparison ser?
What can be alternatives of fx30 within the same price
canon r7
Not canon, for an alternative "cinema" camera, it's the panasonic s5. Otherwise, fuji x-h2 or x-h2s. Canon r7 is a a better stills camera but not suitable comparison as a video camera.
What about autofocus
Thank you for clarifying. What about the GH6?
@@CC.cinematics AF is Sony/Canon then Fuji. Panasonic not so good. But it seems to me, FX30 is mostly replacing people's purchases of FX3, A7siii, Canon c70, Blackmagic 6k, 6kpro, 4k, etc.
Wow❤️❤️ nice voice my friend 💐💐💐nice presentation ❤️❤️❤️new subscriber bro 💐💐💐love from Manipur, india 🙏🙏
Thank you, will you be picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance yup. I am waiting for it ❤️❤️❤️
If the fx30 would of been out when I was switching cameras I would of gotten that over the s3.
Yes, I absolutely agree with that. But the Fx30 is backordered for so long. Everyone is complaining about that. So at least you have a camera that you can use right now.
Thank u
Very useful
The real question is the price/value ratio. So FX30.
Harish from INDIA, iam beginner to this field soon starting CZcams cooking channel.let me know whether FX 30 is good fr CZcams cooking channel?
Hey there, I have had a lot of questions about filming cooking. Unfortunately, I have never had any experience with that. But, if you find out, I would really appreciate it, if you let me know so that I can tell others. Thanks.
very nice describe
Thanks, which one are you picking up?
@@thefilmalliance No doubt FX30
bad low light performance, APS-C means more NOISE bigger NOISE, why even compare. this camera is bs.
Thank you for your insight.
Fx30 is not Netflix approved
The camera is expensive internationally most likely because the US Dollar is the strongest it’s been in decades making it more
Oh I see, so that means it really will come down on the future, right?
@@thefilmalliance hopefully and if it is pegged to the USD Retail, then yes. Especially if there is a shortage on the initial release and the dollar falls. This is more or less speculation on my part but is the only reason I can for the international market exclaiming it as more expensive.
Thanks for explaining. Now it all makes sense
@@thefilmalliance it’s my pleasure, thanks for the insight videos. It makes it make a lot more sense for a person like myself justifying the upgrade from the ZV-E10… all of these videos are extremely helpful.